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2011 World Series Game 4: Cardinals at Rangers, Sunday 10/23, 7:05 CT

Mike Napoli of the Texas Rangers argues a call with first base umpire Ron Kulpa after Matt Holliday of the St. Louis Cardinals is called safe after a tag in the fourth inning during Game Three of the MLB World Series at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington on October 22, 2011 in Arlington, Texas.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

The Bears have won their spectacle of a game in England this afternoon; now, a Rangers win over the Cardinals would make it just about a perfect day for Chicago sports fans.

Perhaps tonight, there won't be any egregiously bad umpiring calls, as there were in Game 3. Replay NOW!

Edwin Jackson will face Derek Holland in tonight's game. Full game details after the jump.

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Game time for Rangers/Cardinals: 7:05 pm. CDT. Cardinals lead series 2-1. TV: Fox. Announcers: Joe Buck & Tim McCarver (get your mute button ready).

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This is the only thread I'm posting for today's game. If you need overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Go Cardinals

yes, I seriously am rooting for them to win. I said it before the series started, Cards in 6.

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by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

For some weird reason i find myself rooting for them too

… but every time i see ryan theriot i start rooting for the Rangers again. lol I still hate em bu I gotta give credit where credit is do tho, and wut the Cards have pulled off this year is really impressive. Maybe some day the cubs can make some october headlines that arent about GMs, getting swept or blowing a series.

by chit0wn on Oct 23, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I usually tend to root for the NL and I respect the Cardinals.

But I find myself doing the same thing..rooting for the Rangers when I see Theriot (or McGwire…he’s another one…ugh).

Dear Great Pumpkin, I am looking forward to your arrival on Halloween Night. I hope you will bring me lots of presents.

by katie casey on Oct 24, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont hate a team

i respect a rival.

also, my closest friend here in Austin, is from St Louis, once our respective team is out of it (NHL and MLB) we support the others team.

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats cool

I hate the Cards but I can respect you cheering for a friends team.

"Keep pushin' til' it's understood. And these badlands start treating us good."

by AussieCub on Oct 24, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Respect?

Sure.

Cheer for them? No.

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by Al Yellon on Oct 24, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eh.

I like Pujols and some other players on the team. I don’t care about the Rangers in the slightest. And would prefer the NL, and even NL central to win.

by Arbusto on Oct 24, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tired of hearing how weak the central is.

Dear Great Pumpkin, I am looking forward to your arrival on Halloween Night. I hope you will bring me lots of presents.

by katie casey on Oct 24, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is the hardest part

but i cannot stand Hamilton for Texas, i hate seeing someone spoken of light a saint for no longer doing illegal drugs. he deserves to be treated just like a steroid user, since both are illegal narcotics.

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 24, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

like not light*

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 24, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hamilton

So, you dislike more the way others view Hamilton, rather than Hamilton himself?

Good things come to those who wait... and wait....and wait.

by memphiscub on Oct 24, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

GO RANGERS!

Any idea time of press conference Tuesday and if any will be broadcast live? Transcripts posted online?

I think Theo will lay out the future.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Oct 23, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I assume the n/c time will be announced Monday...

… and it should be broadcast live somewhere. Maybe even on ESPN or MLB Network, as it is a pretty big national story.

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by Al Yellon on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

GO RANGERS

Beat the crap out of the Cards and wipe the smug off of them!

by Swoosie on Oct 23, 2011 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Please God, not the Cardinals.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I just remember the dreadful 05-06 years when we had to endure

White Sox and St .Louis championship seasons in back-to-back years.

BEAR DOWN!

by mikegncb34 on Oct 23, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go other team!!!

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Oct 23, 2011 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Rangers!!

How can any of you call yourselves Cubs fans and root for the Cards?! Yuck. Isn’t that a rule?

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes.

It’s a rule.

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by Al Yellon on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed,

There are only two occasions where it is acceptable to root for the Cardinals.

1. If they are playing a team that the Cubs are involved in a pennant race with and the Cardinals are not involved in said race.

2. If they are playing the Yankees, creating a moral dilemma which I hope I never have to face.

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree to disagree

there is nothing wrong with rooting for any team once the Cubs are out of it.

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

unless its the cardinals

i’d be for the freakin white sox over the cardinals

BEAR DOWN!

by mikegncb34 on Oct 23, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

This. A thousand times this.

Rooting for the Cards is not okay.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

agree to disagree

it is ok to cheer for any team once the Cubs are out

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't do it myself...

I hate the Brewers and Astros, as well… I wish them all nothing but miserable failure. Always. Forever.

by daily2b on Oct 23, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not for everyone

but that doesnt make it wrong to do

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But it does not make it right either.

You can root for the Cards all you want, you have that right. I already stated that for me, the only time I could even think was if they were playing the Yankees in the series. Even then, I would not really know until the games started.

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey

people pretty pissed in Boston??

by daily2b on Oct 23, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

More like sad

And trying to figure out how they blew a sure thing. They were convinced, even in mid september, that they coudln’t lose.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's how much they've changed

Before 2004, they would have been convinced the Sox would have found a way to blow it.

by Josh Timmers on Oct 23, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally true

It was weird to have a bunch of Boston Fans tell me I was being a “pessimistic Cubs Fan” in retrospect.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not me.

Too many obnoxious White Sox fans in my neck of the woods.

Dear Great Pumpkin, I am looking forward to your arrival on Halloween Night. I hope you will bring me lots of presents.

by katie casey on Oct 24, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Go Rangers!

BTW I just noticed the “Bleed Epstein Blue” graphic in the upper left-hand corner. Fantastic!

BEAR DOWN!

by mikegncb34 on Oct 23, 2011 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

OMG

Just noticed that when I read your post. WIN!

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

That went up during the wait. I’ll leave it up through Tuesday, then Theo gets to work.

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by Al Yellon on Oct 23, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am so excited about Theo.

The Red Sox fans here are uniformly sad. It’s been a topic of much discussion at work, and everyone feels like the Cubs won on this one. :)

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really rooting for the Cards...

But I am rooting against the Rangers.
Tough choice since I live in Houston I can’t root for Dallas.
As a National League fan I can’t root for any team with a DH

by txtom on Oct 23, 2011 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't care who wins this...can't wait for Opening Day now.

I think I’ll have more patience with Epstein than I did with Ricketts seeing that he has proven himself already. Whatever he decides as far as players and manager will be alright by me. I feel like I’m a different fan than I was a month ago…I’ll let Theo and TR worry about the Cubs and sit back and enjoy the ride………….I think :)
GO CUBS!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 23, 2011 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Even if

said manager is Quade?

by Swoosie on Oct 23, 2011 8:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There is no way that happens

and if it does I will retract all good will I currently have for the cubs future.

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

don’t want any more “buying time” for a good manager. Quade needs to go as all those useless coaches do. Quade is NOT a big league manager. Give me a good manager that will be around.

That is all.

by Swoosie on Oct 23, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
I feel like I’m a different fan than I was a month ago

It’s not that I disagree with this at all. But it’s just a different vibe now. A month ago this fan base was one that was pulling for an organization that looked like it was going absolutely no where. More importantly, it looked like they weren’t exactly doing much about it. I think the last few days have just been a giant shot in the arm to the Cubs and its fanbase.

BEAR DOWN!

by mikegncb34 on Oct 23, 2011 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

reply fail.

was supposed to go to coolio

BEAR DOWN!

by mikegncb34 on Oct 23, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, and you exactly got the jist of what I meant :)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 23, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barbara Bush was a big reason I voted for George the first.

She was pro-education and just gave the impression of being everyone’s grandma. How could you vote against grandma?

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

And also in education

teacher/librarian…something…

Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008

by slcathena on Oct 23, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The "Where's the beef?" woman was hotter than Barbara Bush

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 23, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

as much younger Barbara Bush was a looked

but that was well before my time

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not saying she was hot.

She was an impressive woman, and in reality the first woman usually gets more accomplished than the President. Think of Nancy Reagan’s war on drugs, pay attention to what their pet project is when you vote for the best of a bunch of bad choices for President.

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pro-education

… wut went wrong with her son George?

by chit0wn on Oct 23, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he had book smarts but no common sense.

Naw, check that, he didn’t have book smarts either.

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

he had daddy's money

no education needed

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm sure daddy being head of the CIA helped him alot at Yale too

… I mean if u were a professor would u have the balls to flunk him? u’d prolly disappear

by chit0wn on Oct 23, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a difference between

being smart and being educated -

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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry

by Hammer on Oct 24, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

My sister is named Laura Bush

And my mom, at the time of the first Bush presidency, was Barbara Bush.

by Arbusto on Oct 24, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like bringing Holland back out for the 9th

I’d rather try to keep his pitches down so that he could start Game 7.

by jerry morales rules on Oct 23, 2011 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

lets him get a standing ovation as he exits

no harm IMHO

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

118 pitches with a day off.

He can pitch if needed. Hopefully he won’t be and the Rangers win in 6.

by jpeters407 on Oct 23, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am staicking with Cards in 6

but i am happy either way, and this has been a well played/coached series (minus game 3)

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

sticking**

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.

by Cubbie-Tim on Oct 23, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

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