MLB Division Series, Day 5: All Four Series In Action Tuesday
Three of these four series could end today, if the Rangers, Tigers and Brewers win their games. The fourth series is tied at one game each.
Justin Verlander showed why he's being considered for AL MVP this year; after a shaky start he dominated the Yankees, even though he wound up giving up four runs, and Jose Valverde continued his perfect save season (a similar year to the season Brad Lidge had in 2008, when he helped lead the Phillies to the world championship). And the Yankees must start A.J. Burnett today, something that strikes fear into most Yankee fans.
There have been only two division series that have gone the full five-game length since 2003: Braves/Astros in 2004 and Rangers/Rays in 2010. And no team has come back from a 2-0 deficit since the Red Sox over the A's in 2003. So you can see that the Diamondbacks are faced with a very difficult task.
The action starts at 1 p.m. CDT. Full info after the jump.
All games on TBS unless otherwise noted.
1 pm CDT for Rangers/Rays. Rangers lead series 2-1. Don Orsillo (play-by-play) and Buck Martinez (analyst) will call the action with Jaime Maggio as a reporter.
4 pm CDT for Cardinals/Phillies. Series tied 1-1. Dick Stockton (play-by-play) will call the game alongside Bob Brenly (analyst) with Craig Sager as a reporter.
7:30 pm CDT for Yankees/Tigers. Tigers lead series 2-1. Brian Anderson (play-by-play) will call the game alongside Ron Darling (analyst) and John Smoltz (analyst) with Tom Verducci as a reporter.
8:30 pm CDT for Diamondbacks/Brewers. Brewers lead series 2-0. Victor Rojas (play-by-play) and Joe Simpson (analyst) will call the action with Sam Ryan as a reporter. This game is on TNT.
MLB.com Gameday for Rangers/Rays
MLB.com Gameday for Cardinals/Phillies
MLB.com Gameday for Yankees/Tigers
MLB.com Gameday for Diamondbacks/Brewers
Baseball-reference.com game preview for Rangers/Rays
Baseball-reference.com game preview for Cardinals/Phillies
Baseball-reference.com game preview for Yankees/Tigers
Baseball-reference.com game preview for Diamondbacks/Brewers
SB Nation game preview for Rangers/Rays
SB Nation game preview for Cardinals/Phillies
SB Nation game preview for Yankees/Tigers
SB Nation game preview for Diamondbacks/Brewers
This is the only thread I'm posting for today's games. If you need overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Keep your media stories straight
If the Yankees and the Phillies make the World Series, baseball is broken because teams can just buy a pennant.
If the Brewers and Rays make the World Series, baseball is doomed because the ratings are so low.
Just so you know how bad our sport is. Unlike the NFL, which is perfect.
And if it's the Cardinals and Tigers, we'll be back in 2006.
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I heard
that the Colts v. Bucs game last night got a better TV rating than the Detroit v. NY game did … in NY!
Shocking and sad.
by jerry morales rules on Oct 4, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think baseball is doomed
because the games are too damn long.
Until someone stands up to the traditionalists who have loved this sport to death, baseball will continue to lose young viewers and will eventually die off.
"It's all in the game, yo"
They are still (on average) shorter than football games...
It’s just that baseball games have much more infrequent “meaningful action” than football games. And there’s more unnecessary delay between the action than in other sports.
True
This is as much about pace as it is length. I’ve said it a million times
A 12-11 game can take 3 1/2 hours and be thrilling, while a 5-0 game can take 90 minutes and be dull.
"It's all in the game, yo"
90 minutes?
There hasn’t been a 90-minute game in MLB in 30+ years.
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Ok..I have a question...
As the only “young viewer” I know is my 15 year old daughter, who loves the game as it is…what things would you change?
See the Cubs 2012 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2012.html
Also see what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html
I'll tell you what I'd do.
First, you have to enforce the “between pitches” time rule. With a clock, if needed. The constant stepping out from hitters is ridiculous.
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Agreed
My other problem is with the inequality of the teams and team payroll. Tying in some other topics…how do you even judge Theo Epstein or Cashmen? With payrolls like that, you really only need a small # of minor league success. You also can fail with big deals. What if you are an Oriole fan? You have two teams with ridiculous % higher payrolls…you can almost never compete unless you somehow draft a few unbelievable players (and even then…it would be extremely hard).
I think some sort of salary bottom and cap need to be instituted.
Plus, I completely believe in the market. But…Ticket prices are just too high. When you add in parking, concessions….it’s hard to get kids there often enough to get the excited. Baseball can’t be a sport where only the upper middle and upper class can attend a lot of games. Look at football, I have bears season ticks and I’m only responseable for 10 total games…much easier than 81.
This can be a 2 page thought…but I’ll leave it that.
"I feel great, I just wish my team played better"
Something tells me the Yankees and Red Sox will fight that tooth and nail.
They are, of course, the main culprits in this because they think that their at-bats and pitches are about 10,000 x more important than the rest of the league’s. Especially when they play each other.
Glad you asked
1) Pitchers get 15 seconds from the time the return throw from the catcher reaches their gloves to deliver the ball either to home or to a base to hold a runner. Anything longer results in a ball added to the hitters count.
2) Hitters may not leave batters box between pitches except for injury, equipment malfunction or because they ducked out of the way of a pitch.
3) A defensive team gets ONE mound visit per half-inning and that visit — from the time the umpire grants the visit to the defender or defenders returning to position and being ready to play — may take no longer than 60 seconds.
4) Pitching changes must be completed in two minutes. That is, the exiting pitcher and manager must be back in the dugout, the new pitcher ready to pitch and the fielders ready to play, no longer than two minutes after the manager signals pitching change.
5) Replay is instituted and all players and managers are instructed that if they wish to argue a call, they should challenge the play. Otherwise, if they do not return to their position in 10 seconds, a ball or strike is added to the count on the hitter (depending on which side is being penalized) If they do not return to their position in 20 seconds, they are thrown out of the game. 30 seconds, they are suspended for five games.
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Oct 4, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stop the breaks for TV ads between innings, etc.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Stop the breaks for TV ads?
That would pretty much make TV stop covering games.
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All the interruptions just drive me nuts, especially with NFL games.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
NFL games have gotten terrible...
Seriously. A team scores a touchdown. Commercial. Extra point try. Commercial. Kickoff. Commercial. Next drive starts. And the most frustrating part, is it’s only one commercial. I’d rather have longer, few breaks, than multiple, 1 commercial breaks.
Personally
I start the game late on the DVR. Have not watched a commercial in a few seasons.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Half of a football game is commercials.
There is no flow anymore to an NFL game. Baseball has it’s slow casual pace which is a relief in these times. My 11 year old loves baseball and hates football, it is all I can do to get him to watch it with me from time to time.
I now prefer Aussie football.
Play half an hour, five minute break. Play 30 more minute, Twenty off. 30 then 5. thirty then 5.
3 hours, with all the ads clumped.
never happen here, mind you. just prefer it.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Fussball (Soccer) is not interrupted by ads. They get shown during halftime.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Yes, that is accurate.
I prefer occasional scoring with my football. I’d prefer fussball without the faking and stalling. Hence my preference for Aussie football.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
You may be right.
You only need look at the interminable run of male enhancement ads to get an idea of what the advertisers know about viewer demographics.
Though I am still trying to understand the allure of being naked, in a bathtub, outdoors. Probably just my age.
Being outdoors makes it more tolerable when you fart in the tub.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 4, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I may be crazy.
Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.
by daver on Oct 4, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Probably a dumb question...
…but has anyone ever won the Cy Young AND MVP in the same season?
Man I hope the Yankees go down tonight!!!!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
Sam Fuld came the closest in 2009...3rd in Cy Young Voting and 4th in MVP voting.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 4, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is there any possibility you could be serious for even two seconds?
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Com'on, the playoffs have nothing to do with us.
Not every baseball game is serious business.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
No, but he asked a serious question.
It deserved a serious answer, not a dumb one.
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You probably could have just answered the question instead of bitching at him.
What the hell do you care if he wants to joke around?
I'll add that to his Wikipedia entry
It’s still a few thousand words short of Babe Ruth’s entry. Longer than Mickey Mantle or Joe DiMaggio’s, though!
Aaaaaaaaaaand the Rays are done.
Andrew Friedman, COME ON DOWN!
Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.
Are these are 7 game series?
I honestly don’t know, Bud Selig changes this crap so often.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I'm tutoring middle schoolers at the library.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
There are more important things to do than teaching our youth!
like watching baseball.
And disenfranchising the poor
Tampa had a great run...
…. but it couldn’t even sell out the stadium and the stadium is so ugly I hate watching the Rays play on TV.
Channelling his
inner Beltre
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
So off topic
Recently I wrote on here that I umpired Jason Kipnis of the Cleveland Indians with my brother a few times. I used to do a lot of travel leagues for 13 and 14 year old. Anyways – my brother shows up for his softball game in Northbrook (Techny fields) and there is Kipnis playing short for the opposing team.
Pretty cool. My brother said he went deep once and his brother went deep twice.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Not sure obivously
but yeah they do restrict things. For example I think I remember Jeff Kent was not allowed to ride his motorcycle or something.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Yep...
…and with AJ Burnett pitching for the Yankees tonight, it’s a safe bet Cashman’s season will be over, too. So, Beane, Friedman, Epstein and Cashman will all be ready for Ricketts to negotiate with…as long as permission is granted on a couple of them, of course.
"When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team's dugout and they were already in street clothes." - Bob Uecker
It's almost like the Baseball Gods...
…are trying to help the Cubs hire a new GM.
Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.
They've hated us for 103 years
Nice of them to throw us a bone I guess
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Why do I get the feeling that it's ...
e) – none of the above?
"When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team's dugout and they were already in street clothes." - Bob Uecker
Now the Cubs offseason begins
Though, I’m still very excited for the playoffs. Mark me down for the Brewers. They have a very solid 1-3 sp’s.
"I feel great, I just wish my team played better"
The Brewers won't get past the Phillies.
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That should be an excellent series.
Brewers were built to compete against the Phillies, I look for Greinke to implode on a big stage.
Heh.
Well, tell me that you predicted the Cardinals would come back.
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I'd almost rather have Cherington
and not pay compensation. Seems like Sawx brass isn’t too worried about Epstein leaving. They’re ready to hand it over anyway.
So, based solely on rumors and innuendo, it seems we’re down to 5:
1. Epstein 2. Friedman 3. Hahn 4. Cherington 5. Coppalella (sp?)
If indeed that’s the list, kudos to Ricketts.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
True. But I haven't heard much speculation there lately.
Even so, a worthy member of the list.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on Oct 4, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, I think its a long shot
he seems to want to see what happens with the stadium deal, which could make it too late for the Cubs job.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on Oct 4, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, now that TB is out
maybe we can wrap this up and have a new GM before the World Series.
That would give them plenty of time to get a plan in place before Free Agency starts.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney

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