Cubs offer arb to Pena, Aramis, not to Wood

Probably b/c we are okay with Pena accepting, we know that Ramirez won't, and know that it doesn't matter either way with Wood.

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Question re: Wood

Does this mean he’s retiring? Or did the CBA change the “cubs can’t offer until May 15” rule?

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by D98 on Nov 23, 2011 9:30 PM CST reply actions

sullivan says wood is expected to re-sign

THEOOOOOOOOO (and Hoyer)

by jesus christos on Nov 23, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions

Don't think the Cubs get a pick if he signs elsewhere, so no point in offering arb

Pena and Ramirez should get picks for the Cubs if they don’t accept.

by ClarkFan on Nov 24, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions

Yes they would have, Kerry is a type B.

They just know he’s not signing elsewhere anyways.

by Dcr18 on Nov 24, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

I know. I didn't know that was possible right away.

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by D98 on Nov 23, 2011 9:45 PM CST reply actions

Meant to reply to JC.

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by D98 on Nov 23, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions

Uh oh !

They need to offer Wood arbitration, too. Please! Pretty please?

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by Easy Ed on Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM CST reply actions

You're becoming very SenorGato esque whenever Wood is mentioned

by Nunyabidness on Nov 24, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions

Crap...I forgot I had to run my posts by you first...for your stamp of approval, but...

…as long as it got a response from you, it served its purpose.

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by Easy Ed on Nov 24, 2011 7:22 PM CST up reply actions

Sweet! You go another one! You're trolling is improving!

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by Nunyabidness on Nov 25, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks...

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by Easy Ed on Nov 26, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Hope that Pena doesn't accept...

by Dcr18 on Nov 23, 2011 9:54 PM CST reply actions

Should pretty much close the door on Pena, too, I'd think.

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by Easy Ed on Nov 23, 2011 9:55 PM CST reply actions

I hope Pena isn't back.

But I don’t see how this closes the door on him at all.

by Dcr18 on Nov 23, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions

He's a Boras client, he's not looking for another 1 year deal.

by bdlugz on Nov 23, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

Good point

Does that mean the possibility of Fielder signing with the Cubs goes up?

by Mitchener on Nov 23, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions

The likelihood of

‘Fielder to the Cubs’ shot up when it became apparent that Theo et al won’t be able to spend 15 mil a year on bonuses.

I’m sticking to the 150 mil a year premise. I was guessing 130 on roster, 20 mil on bonuses. Since bonuses drop to 10 mil max, roster will be about 140. Like him or not, Price Fielder adds mash to the team over 6 or so years. At least 4 of those, we should be competitive in the NL.

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by timh815 on Nov 23, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions

intersting

It also seems like Sizemore is off the table.

Should be enough to get Fielder and 2 Mid level free agents.

by Mitchener on Nov 23, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions

Intresting to hear we were one of the top suitors.

by Dcr18 on Nov 24, 2011 8:22 AM CST up reply actions

Yes, but they could still attempt to offer him a multi-year deal.

Offering him arb doesn’t mean he’s out of the picture now.

by Dcr18 on Nov 24, 2011 8:20 AM CST up reply actions

Serious-ish question...

Is there any market for Pena if he’s demanding a multi-year deal? If there is, isn’t it likely a 2/14 kind of scenario where he’s really better off taking the Cubs arb offer and (in all likelihood) getting a raise from his $10M yearly salary?

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by fsuapollo on Nov 24, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions

He'd still be eligible to be traded..

if he accepted and signed Fielder later, right?

D98 mistaken, a hyperbole as in a funny or revisionism as in trying to make a new fact to confirm a prejudice

by Kansas25 on Nov 24, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions

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rekt

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by timh815 on Nov 24, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions

I believe so

by Josh Timmers on Nov 24, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions

Maybe Wood would be taking a significant pay increase with arbitration

and maybe he didn’t want to take that much money from the Cubs

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by Chanman25 on Nov 23, 2011 11:21 PM CST reply actions

Arbitration

Just because the Cubs offer it, doesn’t mean he has to accept it. It also doesn’t mean he can’t sign between now and a possible arbitration hearing. The process has changed, too, where a few years ago, no arbitration offer meant that the team could no longer negotiate with that player until May 1st. That no longer is the case.

by dmlichte on Nov 24, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions

Right, but

… given the relationship between Wood and the team, it seems clear to me that he’s probably already agreed in principle to a deal, and doesn’t need this process.

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by Al Yellon on Nov 24, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed

No arb offer is just the Cubs protecting themselves in the case of a breakdown in negotiations.

by dmlichte on Nov 24, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions

I think the original analysis is correct

Ramirez is gone and we want the comp pick. We’re not sure about bringing Pena back, but we’d be OK with it on a one-year arb contract. And Kerry Wood will sign a one year extension in the next few days so that’s all moot.

by Josh Timmers on Nov 24, 2011 1:17 AM CST reply actions

pena

is a class player like d.lee but i really dont want to watch him strike out all season again.

by NOMAR on Nov 24, 2011 7:17 AM CST reply actions

This all makes sense.

I guess we all agree that Woody will be back. Curious if the Cubs will now make a play for Fielder. Ready for some movement for the Cub roster.

by Grockcubs on Nov 24, 2011 9:33 AM CST reply actions

The money will be spent.

Better on Prince than something we don’t need.

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by timh815 on Nov 24, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions

i think

prince is kind of risky at 8 yrs.5 yrs would be good.these guys want security so they can still make millions even if their careers tank.that’s not the way it should be.

by NOMAR on Nov 27, 2011 7:14 AM CST reply actions

i could see 5-6 guaranteed

and then some options, maybe

5 years Guaranteed,
Year
6 Player Option
7 Mutual Option
8 Club Option

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by Cubbie-Tim on Nov 27, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

How should it be?

Granted that “security” is a relative concept when you’ve already earned $35 million, but what kind of deal do you think someone in his position ought to sign?

by Limey Cub Fan Jay on Nov 27, 2011 7:37 PM CST reply actions