Jair Jurrjens on the Block

Should the Cubs make a play to trade for Jurrjens? Is he too big of an injury risk? If they do trade for Jurrjens, who do the Cubs give up in return?

I believe the Cubs should try to trade for him. We definitely need the pitching, but I'm not sure what pieces would be required to get him.

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by DartmouthCubsFan on Nov 3, 2011 7:40 PM CDT reply actions

I would do it in a heartbeat

for 2-3 mid to low level prospects sure, dude is a beast when healthy

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by BelieveinBlue2314 on Nov 3, 2011 7:43 PM CDT reply actions

That wouldn't get a deal done.

It would probably start around Jackson and at least one of Szczur/McNutt/Cashner

by Dcr18 on Nov 4, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions

a lot

THEOOOOOOOOO (and Hoyer)

by jesus christos on Nov 3, 2011 7:52 PM CDT reply actions

Prado

I want him too

by cubsluver22 on Nov 3, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions

I like Prado, too.

He reminds me of a younger version of DeRosa. The dude can play a lot of different positions and can hit about 15-20 homeruns a year. He might hit 25 playing at Wrigley Field 81 games a year.

by jeffmills1972 on Nov 3, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Sign Prado to replace Baker who gets shipped to Boston as comp for Theo. Prado and Baker are similar players. Prado is younger and unlike Baker he hits RHP. Martin regressed a bit in ‘11 but all things considered he’s an upgrade over Bake.

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by Eisman57 on Nov 4, 2011 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Sure.

How could the Cubs pass up the chance to pick up another oft-injured pitcher?

Maybe we could make a play for Rich Harden again too if we have the chance.

by bluekoolaide on Nov 3, 2011 8:02 PM CDT reply actions

This is a decent example of trading a player at or near peak value

I know Jurrjens has spent some time on the DL, but when he’s on the mound, he has been really excellent.

Under normal circumstances, I would say definitely trade for him!!!! But Atlanta usually has a good idea of when to let players walk.

As for Prado, I think he’s a solid guy who can play all over the diamond, but I don’t really know where he would fit in the lineup. Third base batting 2nd? But yeah, I’m not 100% on him, so I would say only if the price is right.

by Mulhollandmania on Nov 3, 2011 8:45 PM CDT reply actions

The Cubs should NEVER make trades with the Braves

We get snookered every time

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 3, 2011 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

New GM.......

by Nunyabidness on Nov 3, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't think the Cubs have any dealings with Atlanta since Frank Wren was made their GM

I would trust our new guys.

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by troutfishin on Nov 3, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions

dlee

THEOOOOOOOOO (and Hoyer)

by jesus christos on Nov 3, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Forgot about that, but at least we didn't get "snookered" on that one.

by troutfishin on Nov 3, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes we did

The key to the trade, Robinson Lopez, has been pretty bad since we acquired him. Harris has been okay, and Lorick was decent at Daytona at age 23.

by Mulhollandmania on Nov 4, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions

On a side bar to that

Hopefully Harris is recovering well from being hit by a car.

by Mulhollandmania on Nov 4, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions

That Ismael Villegas for Tyler Houston trade worked out OK for us.

The Frustrated Fan

by Jody Jody Davis on Nov 4, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Easier to just sign Mark Buehrle

by Josh Timmers on Nov 3, 2011 9:14 PM CDT reply actions

Buehrle is a different kind of cat

He will sign with two team, one being the White Sox, the other being the Cardinals. He’s not the kind of guy that quibbles of contracts and money, so he’s not going to go to the highest bidder.

by troutfishin on Nov 3, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Then he's staying with the White Sox

because the Cardinals have no need of another starting pitcher.

by Josh Timmers on Nov 3, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Buehrle

This was thought to be the case initially, that he’d either go to the Cards or stay with the Sox, but Buehrle has come out and said that he’d sign with any team.

by dmlichte on Nov 3, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions

He is trying to make more money.

by jpeters407 on Nov 3, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions

From St. Louis or Sox

by Mulhollandmania on Nov 4, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't be so sure about that.

According to his agent, Jeff Berry:

"Mark is not going to eliminate any team from free-agent consideration," Berry said. "But having pitched 12 years in the American League, the National League certainly will have some appeal to him.

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by Al Yellon on Nov 4, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions

I'd still be shocked if he signed with the Cubs.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Nov 4, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Given the new management here...

… I wouldn’t.

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by Al Yellon on Nov 4, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions

I guess if Theo & Jed made him the best offer on the market...

…maybe it could happen. But Buehrle would have to answer to all (well, most) of those Sox fans who have been rooting for him for all of these years. I don’t think he wants to do that.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Why should he have to answer to anyone?

He’s a big boy and a free agent. He can make his own decision.

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by Al Yellon on Nov 4, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Of course.

But I would guess he might want to make every effort to avoid the awkwardness that would go along with changing “sides,” as it were. Plus, I’ve heard that Buehrle has stated publicly that he’d never pitch for the Cubs, so he’d have to deal with that. I just see this as a situation akin to Kerry Wood saying he wouldn’t sign with the Sox.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Nov 4, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe he never wanted to work for Jim Hendry.

The situation could be different now.

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by Al Yellon on Nov 4, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions

No.

Buehrle is 32. Jair is 25.

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by dtpollitt on Nov 3, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions

ageist

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by ballhawk on Nov 4, 2011 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions

That’s right you hippy.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 4, 2011 7:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

you want a peace of me?

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by ballhawk on Nov 4, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd rather have Prado

Jurrjens doesn’t do it for me. Seems like a lot of his success stems from cunning and guile and those don’t typically end well. Add in the fact that his FB now averages below 90 and the fact that his ERA is largely based off of a low HR/FB rate (a rate that would probably increase in Wrigley) and I wouldn’t touch him right now. Let somebody else take the risk.

On the other hand, I’ll take the risk that Prado can sustain a BABIP higher than .266. And he is a more than serviceable glove at 3B.

by uptowncub on Nov 3, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

Pass on the oft injured soft tosser. As mentioned above I’d sign the younger versatile Prado to replace Baker who can’t hit RHP.

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by Eisman57 on Nov 4, 2011 7:00 AM CDT reply actions

all depends on what the price is.

i’d like to have them both. but at what cost?

by MDavis on Nov 4, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions

He's Got the Right Stuff

And if Jurrjens helps lead us to a World Series win, then we’ll be loving him forever.

The Frustrated Fan

by Jody Jody Davis on Nov 4, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions

Right now, the notion of any major trade...

…seems to run counter to what Theo & Jed are trying to accomplish (or get under way). Jurrjens numbers look solid in 2008 and 2009, but really haven’t been all that impressive in the two years since. I would agree with those above saying Prado would be the more intriguing candidate. But we’d really need to get into specifics to say for sure.

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Nov 4, 2011 11:34 AM CDT reply actions

agreed. a lot of questions need to be answered when it comes to both, especially prado.

what position does he play? what do we need to give up for him? is he a true upgrade? I don’t see Theoyer giving up major prospects, considering theyve preached building from the ground up. if it was for mid level prosp and giving the braves salary releif then ok.

by MDavis on Nov 4, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Well, I'd assume Prado would be ticketed for third base.

He certainly wouldn’t be an upgrade to Aramis’ power, but he’d likely be better defensively and could bounce back to be a solid OBP guy with some power. As far as what we’d need to give up, I’m really not sure. Probably too much, unless the Braves have really given up on him (which, in turn, would make me question the trade in the first place).

Baseball is pitching, offensive production, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Nov 4, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions