Rumor: Cubs, Rockies Discuss Stewart/DeWitt Swap
I'm not a big fan of Ian Stewart... but trading Blake DeWitt for him might make a lot of sense for both teams. Discuss.
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Quade says
“Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo”
10-25-2011. Theo Epstein joins the Cubs. Now, the fun begins.
I'm sure Ian Stewart can learn to play LF
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
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by cubswynn on Dec 2, 2011 8:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Stewart can play third
when Pujols gets bumped to first in late innings for Prince.
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by timh815 on Dec 2, 2011 8:49 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
Love it.
Do it. Doooooooooooo iiiiiiiiiiiiit.
EEEKKKK
Look at these stats: http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/28722/ian-stewart not… good….
2011
.156BA, 0HR, 6RBI, .243OBP
What do they seen in this guy? A career .236 hitter? Oye.
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injury that season
at best, a decent platoon 3B/LF
He does on his ESPN photo
Very De-Rosa-esque.
by Jody Jody Davis on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Definitely a win/win scenario
I think it’s pretty clear the Bleak DeWitt experiment has run its course here in Chicago. Too bad too, because I always thought he coulda/shoulda been better than he showed. I point part of my finger at RudyJ – seems like DeWitt is the type of ballplayer where a hitting coach should earn his money.
So I think the Rockies could very well catch a tiny tiger in the tank with DeWitt.
Likewise, I think we’d be buying low on Stewart. Could he continue to disappoint? Most assuredly. But even if he does, consider what we gave up for him and it nets out to a meh. OTOH, even if he improves his numbers just a little, it’ll be a positive for us.
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by ballhawk on Dec 2, 2011 9:07 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Salary
Not that either makes a ton of cash, but what are the salary numbers? Any payroll relief for the Cubs?
Numbers.
DeWitt made $460,000 in 2011.
Stewart made $2,287,500 in 2011.
Both players are arb-eligible. So Stewart would cost somewhat more.
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Wasn't the Blake DeWitt Experiment an offshoot band from Three Homer Limit?
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed, bh
I think DeWitt hasn’t lived up to his potential, and that changes of scenery might help him and Stewart.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Dec 2, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
because we are giving up the Franchise if we do.
if we dont, then we have a guy who can play third, second, left field, pitcher, catcher, and third base coach.
So i you can give you can take it.
Yeah, better DeWitt than a guy like Jay Jackson
Which is what I expected the Rockies to propose.
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I'm pretty down on Jay Jackson right now
I wouldn’t even put him among the Cubs Top 30 prospects. So I wouldn’t have a problem trading him for Ian Stewart.
by Josh Timmers on Dec 2, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Uhhh....
The Rockies can have Jay Jackson. Nothing necessary in return.
Surely that's not all they want
or it’s hard to imagine this deal not getting done yet. The definition of replacement player for a guy who at least has shown flashes of being good and has the potential to be break out into something valuable? Make it so!
No, that's backwards
This is a guy they’ll possibly non-tender, rather than pay 2+ mil. Recent reports said they wanted a AA or AAA pitcher.
DeWitt is no great shakes, but he’s a quality ML utility guy who will make under $1 mil. & has trade-value to a lot of teams seeking a lefty-hitting INF. He’s a nice complementary piece in a bigger deal.
I wouldn’t mind this deal straight-up if the costs were evened out. Otherwise, I’d rather give them Maine and shop DeWitt elsewhere.
We may be able to sign him as a FA in a few weeks, why give up anything more than we have to?
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by SouthWabashSoul on Dec 2, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Good points.
It goes to my point below on the anti-DeWitt sentiment. He is a decent cheap reserve that has some power. There is some value in that.
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It's not that I'm anti-DeWitt
but he is the epitome of average. I’m not huge into Ian Stewart either, but I do like his upside. There is basically none with DeWitt, so in a rebuilding year I would much rather roll the dice on Stewart.
He's a tweener
He’s got a third baseman’s glove and a second baseman’s bat. We’ve got another one of those in DJ LeMahieu.
by Josh Timmers on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't realize Stewart made that much
A possible non-tender is something to consider I guess, but I’m sure the Rockies will be able to move him somewhere and get some return on him.
Ian for ARam
In a heartbeat. Forget about 2011. Young and cheap with a decent eye at the plate. DeWitt isn’t in our future. Perhaps Ian is.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
DeWitt for Stewart
In isolation, it’s a no-brainer. But, do we really want Stewart to be the starting 3B next year? I’d hope the Cubs would STRONGLY pursue someone like Chase Headley first, before settling for Stewart.
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You have a good point
about them possibly holding off on a deal to see if they can’t land Headley. I suppose it wouldn’t be the end of the world if we held out but couldn’t land Headley and the Rockies dealt Stewart to another team. Still, I think a straight up swap would be an overall upgrade.
Except SD has shown no indication they want to move Headley.
Of course the Cubs could overwhelm the Padres with an offer but I don’t see that happening.
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Me either.
I like Headley, but I’m not sure he’s the kinda guy you overpay for at all costs, especially considering where we’re at right now.
The Cubs may want Headley
But I think the price would be steep. He’s team controlled for the next 4 seasons and only 27.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
The Pads just lost Heath Bell
How about Marmol, DeWitt & 2 mil?
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by SouthWabashSoul on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
well, that's why I included the 2 mil.
They get Marmol for $6 mil. this year. I’d bet Bud Black could totally straighten him out.
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by SouthWabashSoul on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
No - that's why they let Bell go
The Padres would be looking young & cheap for Headley – not a currency that the Cubs have right now.
I never get into trade specifics
It just seems like a crap shot.
The question to me would be are the Padres interested or motivated in trading Headley? Do they see him as a chip to play? Do they have a player waiting in the wings? Do they want to lower their future payroll for him compared to his value?
I’m sure some of the Headley speculation is because Hoyer was the GM there.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure all of the speculation is because Hoyer was there
But the guy replacing him is also a smart GM with an Esptein pedigree. He probably also realizes that Headley is valuable.
Agreed
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Why would the Padres even consider that?
DeWitt is terrible, Marmol has struggled at closer, and they’d be taking on several million in contract cost (despite being a small market team). It makes no sense from their perspective.
Everyone keeps throwing Headley in the mix.
But the Padres already said they aren’t trading him this offseason. Considering that, I don’t see anyone more desireable then Stewart.
I'd still do the deal anyway. This team has had no depth at 3b after Ramirez for quite awhile
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I'm sure Theo and Jed
are scrambling for a pen to make this deal official ASAP.
Maybe the barista at Starbucks
can let them borrow one.
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by WindisBlowingOut! on Dec 2, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly,
I’m still trying to figure out how it is that DeWitt is even still in Chicago after last year’s trading deadline.
No problem with this deal. If the Rockies throw in a half mil, I’ll even help Blake pack.
I’m still trying to figure out how it is that DeWitt is even still in Chicago after last year’s trading deadline.
Because no one wanted him?
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Possible.
Not totally sure I believe it, but possible.
by Damen Jackson on Dec 2, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
And yet
… he traded Fukudome after that.
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I'm not sure that this really changes his point.
You may be right, but Fukudome wasn’t going to have ties to the club after 2011.
by Damen Jackson on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
True enough.
Still, Hendry seemed to have some weird idea that DeWitt would somehow become a good MLB player.
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I'm fine with this deal.
However, I still don’t get the strong anti-DeWitt feelings here. He’s a bench player with a little pop. People want to keep giving Colvin opportunities yet DeWitt and Colvin are nearly the same age and Colvin hit .150 last season. DeWitt outslugged Baker and Byrd last season and was cheaper than both. DeWitt was not the problem with the Cubs last season.
DeWitt is what he is. If Theo and team want to trade him for Stewart fine.
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by rlpete on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
He's not an everyday player.
If there is a chance to use him to acquire an everyday player, then I’m all for it. It’s pretty much that simple.
Where do you get the anti-DeWitt sentiment? I hope you don’t mean me. My comment about trading him (or rather him not being traded) was more the redundancy of Baker and DeWitt both on the bench, and the general need of that sort of player at the trade deadline than anything about him personally.
by Damen Jackson on Dec 2, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
I agree with you.
I’m fine with dealing him and he could/should have been dealt last season. I wasn’t directing my comment at you but rather to the large number of people that seem to relish jumping all over the guy.
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I think it was more how Quade used him and the fact that DeWitt was all that was left after trading Lilly
He got the flack for the ineptitude of his bosses. Not fair, but that’s baseball.
Well
No, DeWitt was not THE problem last season. But having way too many guys that produce like DeWitt, both at the plate, on the bases and in the field, is absolutely the problem.
DeWitt to me doesn’t fit the profile of the new Epstein crew as an “asset” any more than someone like Aaron Miles.
No disagreement and I'm fine with trading DeWitt.
In some ways, DeWitt became Quade’s Neifi Perez. Neither DeWitt or Perez were a bad player as a reserve used appropriately. However Perez was not a leadoff hitter and DeWitt was not a #3 hitter. As a result, both players were scorned a lot more than they probably deserved if they were used properly.
If you look at DeWitt’s numbers last season, he produced a line of .265 / .305 / .413 for $460K. His defense isn’t terribly good but he produced for the money.
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The DeWitt feelings generally started with the stupid, stupid Lilly trade.
A Type A free agent with 2 months to go on his deal, traded for three total non-entities.
A screwup only eclipsed by the Dodgers’ decision to lock that Type A free agent up for 3 more years.
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by D98 on Dec 2, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with that assessment...
my lack of admiration for DeWitt has always been colored by the fact he’s what the Cubs got in return for Ted Lilly.
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Again, we go back to this new management team and what they see
is different than anything we’ve seen before. Maybe they know something, maybe not. We got to go with the new ideas, not the old ones.
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by mrcubsfan on Dec 2, 2011 10:48 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
At first I spit out my coffee and shouted "yes" with pure excitement!
But then it said Stewart instead of Kinsler.
Ah well.
It would seem almost a lateral move...
…except that at least Stewart was once a top prospect and put up some monster numbers in the minors (career .902 OPS in seven seasons). So I guess I’ll throw my cap in the “Sure, what the hell,” ring. I think it’s a long shot that this turns out to be another Aramis-like trade, but at least Stewart would give us another option at third base with a little more upside than DeWitt.
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I agree. The Cubs under Epstoyer may indeed make a big splash in the FA market but until then,
and until they are out from under the giant rotten contracts, I like the approach of spending relatively small amounts of money for players with some MLB upside in the hope, no doubt, of getting really lucky with someone. If they had anything at all to work with in the higher minors they wouldn’t have to use the “throw them at the wall and see what sticks” approach but they don’t.
I'd do it
Stewart has lefty power, and he’s a good change of scenery candidate.
I'm trying to gauge Theo & Jed's mind set,
and if this deal happens, I see a pattern. Ian Stewart has a career .323 OBP and .751 OPS. He’s a lefty. Remove last year’s numbers and his resume looks pretty damn good.
He was injured last year. As with DeJesus, if our FO is confident that he is really healthy then this move happens. Another small move on the board.
We should start asking the important questions now. Is his wife hot? Can SWL make another image of puppies, rainbows, and cleavage? These are the true keys to winning.
Theo and Jed are very clear on their mind set
From yesterday’s DeJesus press conference.
The idea of signing Pujols or Fielder doesn’t jibe with Epstein’s alleged aversion to a quick-fix game plan. “Any rumors you hear or any potential player move, it’s probably worth your while to access it through that lens,” Epstein said. “I’m not saying we’re not going to make a move that might be unanticipated … but generally that’s our philosophy.”
I think they are really trying to reinforce their philosophy each time they meet with the media.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Colvin for Stewart straight up?
Yeah, I’d do that.
by Jody Jody Davis on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
In about two seconds.
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by Al Yellon on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
gotta grabe the pen...
one second to grab the pen and another second to sign on the line.
So i you can give you can take it.
I agree, but I can also see Colvin being a good 4th OF for Colorado
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Isn't the asking price more than just DeWitt?
Colorado appears open-minded in the acquisition price for Stewart. The Rockies would preferably like a pitcher in any deal as well. Stewart suffered through a forgettable 2011 season. Penciled in as a middle of the order bat, Stewart, 26, went homerless in 136 plate appearances.
Depending on the pitcher, I’d still be down for this. I don’t think DeWitt is good enough at anything in particular to merit a starting job, but Stewart could bounce back — or, he could fill DeWitt’s spot as supersub on the bench.
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perhaps one that starts with a C
and rhymes with Marlos Bramjano?
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by Fukudometer on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt it.
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Well, if Marshall is staying in his current role ...
we certainly have some lefties to deal. Maybe Scott Maine?
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Maybe Beliveau/Dolis/Carpenter?
Or maybe they want a SP? There’s a wide range of possibilties if they just “a pitcher”.
Interesting.
That would be a good low-risk, fairly low-cost signing, if it’s the Cubs.
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If it's not the Cubs...
…I’d still like them to take a look at Paul Maholm. I haven’t read a thing about him lately.
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by daver on Dec 2, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maholm could be quite useful, I agree.
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oh it's the Dodgers. 2 yrs for 10 mil ... surprised at the amount of money
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by lexmarklover on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Well, so much for this rumor
Rockies’ Stewart on trade block, but DeWitt not right fit
While the Rockies have explored trading third baseman Ian Stewart, a source said today that the Rockies still think highly enough of Stewart that they would not consider a deal for the Cubs’ Blake Dewitt….Colorado is seeking more in return than a utilityman, preferring someone along the lines of outfielder Tyler Colvin, or a minor-league pitching prospect.
by Jody Jody Davis on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM CST reply actions
WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?
I’ll drive Colvin to the airport myself.
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by Al Yellon on Dec 2, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahem.
Now you’re using MY material? :)
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I've been using the airport driving meme for a long time...
… way longer than BCB has even been in existence.
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Um, I was joking.
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This would have to be close to a record.
Two position players, traded for each other, whose previous year BA’s combined don’t reach .310.
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by davidalanu on Dec 2, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll drop him off at your house...
…and give you gas money for the trip to the airport.
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I think they're waiting until after Rule V
Then taking care of BOS/ SD compensation, then seeing what’s left. I think if they want Colvin, it’ll get done.
by Mulhollandmania on Dec 2, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Posturing
I think this gets done. How much value to they really see in Colvin?
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by cub in louies nest on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I could see Theo & Jed dealing Colvin for Stewart.
Both are high draft picks in need of a change of scenery. And Colvin’s low OBP skills presumably don’t fit in with the new Cubs way.
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Or in professional baseball.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 2, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well, hey, if they can help him...
…make at least a little more contact, he could probably hit 20 to 25 home runs pretty consistently in that park.
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This is a nice concept...
but you could basically say this about 15-20 other ballplayers that aren’t good.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 2, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps.
But Colvin has already hit 26 home runs at the major league level, so he’s got that going for him.
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I realize he had some initial success in 2010 and then suffered a scary freak injury...
the quandry over Colvin is that 2011 was really bad and you can’t be sure how much of that was due to injury and how much was due to the rest of the league figuring out how to get him out. He didn’t do anything noteworthy in the minor leagues either in 2011, so it is mostly a coin toss as to whether or not he’ll ever be an average outfielder again.
He’s not particularly fast, doesn’t have anything impressive in the way of an outfield arm or glove and hasn’t ever really hit for average. All he’s got to hang the rest of his career on is power, and the only way he’s ever going to be able to leverage that one talent at the ML level is to suddenly develop some remarkable plate discipline. I just don’t see any hitting coach having enough pixie dust to grant that wish.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I agree.
But let’s not tell the Colorado Rockies all of this. I’m tryin’ to put some sizzle on the steak, if you know what I mean.
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What's with the serious, well-thought out reply?
Who are you and what have you done with our Smarmy Witty Lad?
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by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 2, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
I like the umbrella...
Classic Winnie the Pooh rules!
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Which is nice.
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Sure
so was Ian Stewart’s. Didn’t do him any good.
They’re both failed prospects, but Stewart was much more highly-regarded coming up.
Well it did him good when he hit 25 HR.
I think Stewart is more likely to bounce back into an everyday player
Colvin hit 20
in 100 fewer ABs in Wrigley as opposed to Coors.
Colvin’s 2010 was better than Stewart’s 2009.
I understand what you mean though. And I would have no problem giving up Colvin for Stewart. We don’t have much need for Colvin anymore.
And
The Cubs could say they are shopping their current LF but only if they get boatloads in return. Dealing from the side of little leverage looks good when written in ink but otherwise is of little or no value. Colorado can comment on what it would take to get Ian Stewart all they want. The reality is that they probably would give him up for an Arby’s coupon.
silly rockies
don’t they know that dewitt might be able to play all of the positions on the field?
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by jesus christos on Dec 2, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Ian Stewart in Colorado
I live out here. Ian Stewart was thought of so highly in Colorado that it sent Garret Atkins packing (not sure what the heck happened to that guy), and forced Jeff Baker to learn several new positions and also get dealt. He’s been touted for years as a potential force in the middle of that order, and along with Tulo, was a big part of their future lineup. What happened? Well, last year’s wrist injury came after a couple of years in which he didn’t quite put up the numbers you’d like to see. He is relatively patient, but he strikes out too much. Defensively he is not exciting.
All that being said, if his wrist has healed properly, you have a 26 year-old power-hitting lefty at third base. In the prime of his career, you could be highly likely to hit .270/.350 and hit 30 homers a year. At the very least, he’s a great platoon partner with Baker. A decent couple of bats to be hitting 5th, 6th or 7th.
I will trade Colvin AND DeWitt for that potential.
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by KO Stradivarius on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
If he could hit those numbers...
…than this would be the Aramis Ramirez trade, Part Deux.
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Aramis
was hitting close to those numbers before the trade. Stewart is making Neifi look good at the plate.
True enough.
Just saying if he hit at that level, it would be pretty remarkable for the Cubs to strike gold twice on trades for third basemen.
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Aramis was already good, and Stewart won't approach his numbers
Ramirez was already driving in 90-100 runs and hitting around .300 before the Cubs got him, not to mention making good contact. He had a rep for being lazy on the bases and in the field, and for shrinking from the spotlight – all that was true, but he did become a good cleanup hitter.
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by KO Stradivarius on Dec 2, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Colvin will not be moved until the Soriano question is answered.
But Stewart is a good guy to gamble on. He’s likely to suck but his upside is pretty high. If 4 out of five guys the cubs take a gamble on pay off then they could be competitive.
With stewart and dejesus and the cubs keep Z the cubs are half way there to getting those guys to gamble on.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM CST reply actions
If Soriano goes
Colvin will not be part of the solution. I don’t see any relationship between the two.
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Why would the Rockies do that?
Soriano in that cavernous outfield? Eeeh …
Soriano has to be thought of as a DH, I’d say.
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Oh.
Sorry.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 2, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Defense notwithstanding
Colorado might be the perfect place for Soriano to keep his career going. Breaking balls don’t break nearly as much there, which would probably benefit Soriano’s power numbers. If the Rockies used him in a selective role (minimizing his time in the OF, platooning him with Seth Smith, etc.), he might have some value to them if we ate enough of the contract.
The Rockies are one of the few NL teams I think could make sense for Soriano, although they have quite a lot of OF options already.
You may be on to something.
The Rockies are, after all, the team that signed late-career Jason Giambi.
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Did anyone catch Bruce Levine's radio show this morning?
Twitter seems to be saying he is predicting the Cubs will deal for Headley at the Winter Meetings, and that they will be dealing relief pitching. Not sure, but the only source I’ve seen suggested was the radio show. Might have just been idle speculation.
Perhaps.
I’d like this to happen, but I’ll wait until there’s more information.
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Cubs By The Numbers
Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.
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