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BCB Interview: Tom Ricketts, Part 2

A general view of Wrigley Field as the Chicago Cubs take on the New York Yankees in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

In the second part of my wide-ranging interview with Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts, he addresses the needed renovations to Wrigley Field, plans for building on the triangle property adjacent to the ballpark, and plans for the new spring training complex to be built in Mesa, Arizona.

Note: this interview was conducted before the Cubs' recent purchase of the McDonald's property across Clark Street from Wrigley Field, so that topic wasn't available to be addressed at the time I spoke with him.

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BCB: What about the Triangle Building? In the end, who’s going to raise the funds for that? Is that going to go on the business side?

TR: That’s a business thing.

BCB: Some people have said Theo’s going to be doing that now because he has the background in doing it and it really seems more like the baseball side.

TR: Well, where Theo can add value with regard to the stadium is experience in what he helped execute at Fenway. So, to the extent that he was involved the structural improvements made at Fenway, not so much on the fan side, but on the player side, I think he’ll be a value add on that and it think it’ll be a plus to us, too.

BCB: Where do things stand as of now on both the Triangle Building and the ballpark renovations?

TR: It’s still a work in progress. We have done a lot of our homework on what we need to do with the field. We’ve hired the architects and designers, some who have done a lot of the work on Fenway. We think we have a pretty good feel for what we have to do with Wrigley long term. The question is how it all fits with what has to go onto the Triangle parcel, so we’re not 100 percent sure. We’re also still in dialogue with our elected officials and other people to talk about how we can make it all work for the Cubs the best – come up with the best win-win solution, but we don’t have an answer yet exactly.

BCB: Do you have any specifics? I know there was a survey sent out to season ticket holders about what they thought, and neighborhood people too about what they thought they might want to see there. Have you gotten any further in saying what form this building will specifically take beyond team offices and player facilities?

TR: We definitely have garnered a lot of information on what kind of things people would like to see on the triangle parcel. Both fans from the day of game basis and neighbors on both game days and non-game days, what would make the most sense for them. We’re not 100 percent sure what we’re going to do exactly yet, so we’re probably not going to talk about it until we have the whole plan in place.

BCB: And are you still looking at a time frame that would get the 2016 All-Star Game here as well?

TR: We’re always hoping to get it sooner rather than later.

BCB: No specific timeline at this point?

TR: Ultimately I don’t think you can force the action on that. So hopefully we're moving quickly and whenever we do start the project we’ll be able to execute quickly because we’re very well prepared. But the final plan hasn’t been handed out.

BCB: Any truth to the rumors that the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority is going to buy Wrigley Field and run it?

TR: We’re not talking with anybody about selling the field.

BCB: In terms of renovations to the ballpark, I’ve got to ask the Jumbotron question and the ribbon board question again. Any big things that you’re looking at?

TR: We’ve looked a lot of those different ideas and we’ve surveyed people about them. We really won’t know what the changes are until we get kind of a real good feel for what the final plan is. It’s still kind of a work in progress there, and we have to weigh all the factors at the right time and when we can, make the right decision. So, nothing yet. No big plans for this off season.

BCB: So the work that’s going on right now is just general maintenance?

TR: Yeah, a lot of cement has to be replaced every year, a lot of concrete’s being replaced. We’re doing largely general maintenance. There are always different issues around the park that we address every season.

BCB: What’s the latest on the spring training complex? Where does that stand and where will it be moving, say, in the next six months to a year?

TR: We are in the stage now where we’re still working with the architects to design the complex. We’ve got to figure out how it all fits on the property and the basics of how it’s going to look. It’ll take a few more months.

BCB: I’ve seen some drawings. Maybe those are just renderings.

TR: I know there have been some renderings that have been out there, but I think it’s only now that the architects are digging in to make sure that we have it the way that we want it.

BCB: Do you have an estimated time for groundbreaking or not yet?

TR: There’s no date set. I’d imagine sometime this winter is when we start putting shovels in the ground.

BCB: You’re looking to open it the summer of 2013 and then spring training in 2014?

TR: We’ll have two more spring trainings in our current facilities. We’re definitely going to do that.

BCB: Is the Wrigleyville West area with the restaurants and everything still part of that plan?

TR: Yes. We’re still committed to giving fans a lot more to do when they come down to spring training. We think we have a better location for doing that. We’re working with the city on different ideas, trying to bring in some other things to do when you come to the park for spring training. Nothing is finalized yet but we have some time to figure out how that will fit.

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So, we're building Boston West on the North Side, and Wrigley West in Arizona:)

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by SackMan on Dec 27, 2011 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

tic tac toe

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by Cubbie-Tim on Dec 27, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

You could say we're building a

Red Sox
Cubs Nation

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by unretrofied93 on Dec 27, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

aaannndddd that didn't work right

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by unretrofied93 on Dec 27, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

There's a "formatting guide" on the upper right of comments box

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by jeffstorm2 on Dec 27, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds to me like

a lot of things are still in the initial planning stages and that spells money: where is it coming from? With interest rates at all time lows, wouldn’t you think some if these things would be on a fast track?

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by mrcubsfan on Dec 27, 2011 8:50 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

They're digging in for a value add win win, for sure.

More platitudes than a used car salesman.

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by Invalid User on Dec 27, 2011 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

I think he's still wishing for some public dough but knows it's poison right now.

I don’t think public funds should ever be used for privately owned stadiums but I know TR doesn’t agree with that. Man, did he pick the wrong time to buy an old park.

Seems to me he might have more success getting some public money for the triangle building than Wrigley itself. The triangle building could include some parking which might please the locals and would provide some jobs – low paying service jobs but jobs none the less – that don’t exist right now.

In the current climate I think TR is probably pleased he bamboozled Mesa and is going to play his cards close to his vest until either the economic and political climate improve (recent stories about shortfalls in the hotel tax flowing into the Cell and public money used for a restaurant at the Cell didn’t help that) or a new revenue stream like the future Cubs TV network is created.

by the nth on Dec 27, 2011 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

I may be mistaken, but once this happens TR might be able to do/buy/build anything he wants.
a new revenue stream like the future Cubs TV network is created.

….if the Rangers and Angels are that rich from TV revenue, imagine how much $$$$ a Cubs network would bring in.

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by cooliogirl47 on Dec 27, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely true.

It’s probably still 3-4 years away.

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by Al Yellon on Dec 27, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

And in 2014

CubsNet went self-aware…

by Tat14 on Dec 27, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

thats what i thought too

… he doesnt really answer any of Als questions. wasnt that kinda irratating Al?

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

TR's answers do appear a bit more curt in this chapter.

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by daver on Dec 28, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Can't believe the lead-off was another Theo vs. Crane issue

I thought a segment on Wrigley Field renovations could finally be empty of the Theo vs. Crane caged death match.

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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 27, 2011 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

Better load up on Crane now

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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 27, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's bulldoze that talk.

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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for the "So did you really say you didn't need a baseball guy to watch your baseball guy?" query

and the logical “and if so, what changed your mind?” followup.

Maybe not in those words, but it seems like a valid question to me and one that could have been asked in a non-hard-hitting way so as not to seem all tabloid-like.

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by ballhawk on Dec 27, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Look at part 1.

It was addressed there.

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by Al Yellon on Dec 27, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Sort of.

He said he “read” that Theo was looking for a higher title, and that they discussed it internally (discussed what?) and decided to give it to him. There’s really no information on what changed his mind. He knew what a president of baseball operations would do when he commented multiple times that he had no interest in hiring one. He talks about “decisions rolling up to the head of baseball” and that this allows him to “build a team around him.” Well, I’m pretty sure that’s what Jim Hendry got to do too, and he was only the GM.

Honestly, I think this is Tom just trying to look like he knows what he’s doing more than he really does. The same thing happened when he said he didn’t see Zambrano coming back. Theo came in and said he didn’t feel that way, so Tom changed his mind. I doubt there’s any drawn out internal discussions on this, or at least none of any substance. It looks to me like the real answer is “Theo told me so, and what Theo says goes.” All his hemming and hawing does little to make me think otherwise.

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by shoemile on Dec 27, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What I read into it is...

… it was probably the only way he could get Theo, by creating this new position, and then letting him hire who he wanted.

I don’t see anything really wrong with that.

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by Al Yellon on Dec 27, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, and I read it that way as well.

But I read it that way because the answer he gave you was a load of BS.

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by shoemile on Dec 27, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, what shoemile said

btw, I did read part 1 and the specifics of what I was asking was not covered there.

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by ballhawk on Dec 27, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

How would you ask your questions

and this question that Al did ask?

BCB: When you hired him, or when you were going through this process did you anticipate him being in the position he is now or did you anticipate him being in the same position as Jim Hendry? Now you have a President of Baseball Operations and a General Manager, two people when there was just one before. Had you anticipated that or is that something Theo brought up? How did that all come about?
TR: I had read that he was looking for a higher title in his next position. He had said that in a public comment. We talked about it internally and thought it kind of makes sense. There’s a lot of decisions on the business side that roll up to the president of business and there’s all sorts of decisions that roll up to the top of baseball. If we can get a president of baseball operations and he can build his team around him I think we’ll be better off for it. So, it just made a lot of sense for us.

If I compare your question to Al’s, your questions appear intended to embarrass TR. That’s not a great interview tactic.

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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 27, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, as it would not be my intent to embarrass TR, I probably would have used a little humor in setting it up...

…perhaps making a Starbucks reference or something else to defuse the situation. But I also would have made a direct reference to that specific quote (assuming I had done my homework beforehand and verified that he actually did say that) and asked him how he went from that leadership structure philosophy to the one he ended up with.

Maybe TR explains that the original quote was more an off-the-cuff comment and not something that was set in stone at the time. Or maybe he goes into more detail about why/how he had an organizational epiphany.

Regardless, here we have a team owner who said something pretty specific and ended up doing something decidedly different. I dunno about anyone else, but that certainly piques my interest. Yes, Al broached the topic but in a roundabout way and TR’s response was (predictably) vague. A more specific question might have generated a more specific response.

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by ballhawk on Dec 27, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

This change of mind isn't uncommon

Numerous businesses will create a position to bring in the talent they want. Maybe less in the current economy. But staffing and organizational structures can be very fluid and shift with the strengths of the personnel. I’m sure Theo also presented what he wanted/needed for his staff.

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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 27, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Nicely done, Al.

Looking forward to part 3.

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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

Didnt you interview Craine Kenny last time too?

…. i seem to remember they said everything was undecided back then too

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

Nice interview, Al...

…I’m just surprised you didn’t ask who will be on the hook for that $300MM in capital gains taxes if Tom ever decides to sell.

All kidding aside, it’s a shame that the unique status of Wrigley Field compels silence from management on the specifics of any and all improvements. Whatever they may be, and whoever will be paying for them, they are guaranteed to provoke the usual shitstorm from preservationists, politicians, and rooftop operators.

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by ernaga on Dec 27, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Seems to me Ricketts is staying silent simply because no plans are finalized

Hard to give a statement on something that doesn’t exist. Furthermore, whatever he says right now, may not be accurate later.

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by SackMan on Dec 27, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You mean like the journalists

Who told us Pujols would sign withthe Marlins,
And so on down the list. Let’s
Cover all the bases so we aren’t wrong.

I seriously thing a lot of this hinges on the Triangle Project & that is before Planning & Zoning or some such government entitity. The Cubs know what they want. They have to make it work into the neighborhood. Stadium changes also have to be picked over too. I don’t imagine Rickets knows anything he can divulge until he has approval to move forward.

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by cub in louies nest on Dec 27, 2011 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

wish u asked him

… about his players not standing in line for the national anthem. That bugs me that they do that and it is disrespectful to the game

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

Ownership need not comment

on a lack of discipline from the players. That situation pretty much reflects on Quade. We don’t need micro-managing ownership. Hopefully, the right people have been hired to take care of such items.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 27, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

i just wonder if he even noticed

… it is shameful for a big league club to not stand as a team by the dugout when the fans are asked by the cubs to please stand and remove there hats. Even if they dont respect our country they should show respect for the game by standing cuz the anthem has always been part of the game

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

uh...

our national anthem was accepted in 1889 by the navy, 1916 by the president, and 1931 by congress. The national league was founded in 1876.

by jpchi on Dec 27, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

uh

… if ur trying to say the anthem is not part of baseball ur not paying close attention. Look wut they put into the National Anthem, huge flags, eagles flying from press boxes and stealth bombers flying over. The NL may be older than the anthem but its had a spot in pre game festivities for a long, LONG time. IMO the players should stand for it as a team

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

The Star Spangled Banner wasn't played before games until World War I

ANd SDSJM is right. That is a field manager issue, not an owner issue. Not all teams do it. I prefer it, but the owner shouldn’t be getting involved in that.

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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 27, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

well World War 1 was almost 100 years ago

…. so its not like this anthem thing started last week. i dunno, if i owned a team it would piss me off if my players didnt stand and id give my manager shit about it and i would make them stand. If the Cubs (Tom Rickets) ask the fans to stand, theres no reason why these millionaire asshole players cant stand

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Three things

One – the WWI comment was refuting your claim that it’s always been a part of the game. jpchi also did this. Our points stand. It hasn’t been.

Two – if you think any manager worth a damn is going to want to work for an owner who gets involved in on-field issues, you’re delusional. I’d prefer they stand, but it’s more important to me that they win. This stuff is ancillary.

Three – it’s NOT disrespectful to the game. Debatable about disrespectful to the country, but not the game.

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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 27, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

i respectfully disagree

…. the anthem is a tradition of going to a baseball game and it obviously means a lot to a lot of people or else they wouldnt fly airplanes overhead during it. Standing up for 2 minutes out of respect for this tradition of the gamw is not asking too much imo.

No worries tho, it just kinda bugs me that most teams stand and the cubs dont. thats all

by chit0wn on Dec 27, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

chitOwn

Have you noticed if other major league teams do all stand for it? I’ve never paid attention.

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by shoemile on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 PM CDT

by Madison Cub Fan on Dec 27, 2011 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Al said other teams do.

That’s why he wrote about it in one of the game recaps over the summer.

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by shoemile on Dec 27, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I know some must otherwise this won't be a discussion point

But I wasn’t sure if it was noticed with specific teams or not.

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by shoemile on Oct 21, 2011 10:10 PM CDT

by Madison Cub Fan on Dec 27, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a rather unique argument

I mean, in what other context could you argue for something by saying “or else they wouldn’t fly airplanes overhead during it”?

Bensenville is the best suburb.
—What makes you say that?
If it weren’t they wouldn’t fly airplanes overhead of it!

The ground campaign in Verdunnes was a turning point in the war.
—No, it wasn’t.
Yes it was, they even flew airplanes overhead!

by cubzfan on Dec 29, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't know

if we should carry this discussion any further, as it could rapidly devolve into a political argument.

by jpchi on Dec 27, 2011 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

so

are you Mark Cuban?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Dec 27, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Right.

And I have written about that numerous times here. It’s not like it’s an unknown thing.

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by Al Yellon on Dec 27, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He commented on something similar before.
"I’m not going to say our guys weren’t playing hard," he said. "I think they were. I think they were doing their best. To the extent that maybe Dale can get some extra effort out of some of the guys, that’d be nice. But our guys were trying … It was just a matter of it didn’t come together. (That) wasn’t my focus."

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-11-29/sports/chi-ricketts-megadeal-decision-on-fielder-or-pujols-up-to-epstein-20111129_1_cubs-chairman-tom-ricketts-mike-quade-fielder-or-pujols

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by shoemile on Dec 27, 2011 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I must admit...

…I’m a little disappointed to read that the Triangle Building remains mostly in the conceptual stage. Then again, it’s not like improved player facilities — which are what I want to see more than anything — would make that big of a difference with the 2012 team. So I shall remain patient.

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by daver on Dec 28, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

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