A 'Bucket List' moment: the Cubs offer us season tickets
I've been a Cubs fan since I was a teenager in the 1960s growing up watching the team on WGN here in Michigan. I lived and died with them since then and I always had this 'little boy' fantasy about owning Cubs season tickets.
But life has a way of going on around us and dreams like these often evaporate into 'bucket list' wishes amid the reality of jobs and kids.
Baseball holds on to your heart though.
When I got married, my bride became a Cubs fan in self defense. The 1984 team hooked her just as the 1969 team had hooked me. Over the years, we attended Cubs games when we could, usually a game or two a year as time allowed. Mrs. Zeke saw the Cubs LOSE the first thirteen games she attended in person- including game 6 of the NLCS in 2003. But she never wavered in her love - of the team (and me, mostly).
We added our name to the season ticket wait list after 2003, knowing we were years away from seat 'contention' and looking ahead to some day - after we both had retired - when the Cubs would tell us that our 'number' had come up.
Well, Mrs. Zeke and I got the letter today offering us Cubs season tickets. Blink once. Blink twice. WHAT?
Nearly thirty years of marriage; two kids in college; two full-time jobs (and my summer job working for our local minor league baseball team) and still years away from retirement - and the opportunity comes.
After peeling my wife off the ceiling of the kitchen when she read the letter from the Cubs, we looked at each other and said "Now what do we do?"
I'm not sure yet, but if you've ever seen the movie "Fever Pitch", the scene of Jimmy Fallon running out into the snow-covered street to greet the FexEx man holding his box of Red Sox season tickets keeps coming to my mind - especially the part where he tears open the package and sniffs the pages of tickets.
The images are hard to shake.
Just replace 'Red Sox' with Cubs.
Anyone interested in going in on a pair with us?
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I'll let you know after tonight - I may have 206 million reasons to help you out...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Us too! Maybe we'll be the only ones!
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
Well, are you fabulously wealthy?
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
No such luck.
Dang – and I was all set to sign Prince Fielder to an 8-year contract too…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I won some money with my MegaMillions ticket!
$9.
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Congrats - you just got yourself 11.3 seconds with Prince. That should be enough time for an autograph and a handshake.
Although I didn’t factor in Boras’ cut here, so you probably won’t get both.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Boras' autograph?
and a handshake from Fielder.
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Dec 28, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'd prefer it the other way around, but then I'd have to make sure I still had my watch afterwards...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
You'd probably need to check your wallet too.
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Dec 29, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ive never bought a lottery ticket
If I won 206 million I put 200 of it into future trust for my family. 6 million is more then enough to live an amazing life on.
Id probably stay away from Venezuela
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
If you won 206 million you'd probably only ever see 110 million of it.
Your life would only be half as awesome.
I've decided on these seats:


There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
they can order pizza?
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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 27, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
Congrats!!!!! Now, I have to run and go check my mailbox :)
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Congrats!
We got the nod as well, after 6 years of the wait list. Now we have to decide if we can do it.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded." -Jim Frey
What seats are you offered?
Its a very romantic idea to own season tickets but if you only attend 2-3 games a year, it may not be a great idea. Also, cubs probably will not be contenders atleast until next year. So be ready to eat some money depending on seats you get. If you have the stomach to take loses for a couple of years, then go for it.
We got the letter today, too.
We’re considering who we could entice to go in on it with us, as well.
I let Bulls season tickets go the year before they drafted Derrick Rose. I’m still feeling crispy from that snafu, so I’d hate to miss out on the chance to get in now before McJedstein mold us into a perpetual victory machine here on the North Side.
"The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the talk" - Philip Marlowe
by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Dec 27, 2011 9:43 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how many people got this offer
… and how far down on the waiting list they have gone.
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Al, I was in the 6000's
…on the waitlist and got my offer. I immediately went to work to put a group together and I’m proud to say when the ticket office opens back up next week I plan to call and get 2 bleacher seats. The other option is to go to an event on Saturday, January 28 to pick my seats, but since I’m taking Bleachers, I don’t have to wait until the event.
Thanks again, Al, for answering my email!
Glad you got the offer.
I’d love to know if this is the only “event” date or if there are others.
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My guess is that there
…may be others before mine. I would think those that may be 1500 on the waitlist or so would have an event before mine, but that may be incorrect. My letter does state there’s not a guarantee that seats would be available by that date. But I’m guessing they must be pretty confident that there will be since they reached that far down on the list.
I would love to go to the event just to check it out, but I will be in Florida that weekend. It does give me the option to send someone in my place, or send them a form with my first 3 choices and a Cubs representative would call me with offers.
Since I want Bleachers, I’m just going to call next week and get them secured. This is a dream come true for me and my group of friends going in with me!
Al, quick question...
…how did they handle relocations/upgrades prior to this year? I read this year was the first relocation event, so how did they handle this in the past?
I would love to sit and “chat” with a season ticket holder and discuss their experiences, benefits, pros/cons, etc. if anybody on this site would be interested.
I have no idea how they did relocations before this year.
Anyone else know?
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relocations
Brock …. can’t speak for the masses – but, as a STH, the annual letter offered the opportunity, but not the guarantee, of relocation. Wasn’t that long ago renewals ran at 98-99%
I think there might just be a single date.
There are multiple time slots, however. We are at 3200-ish on the list and have a 12:30pm slot.
I would kinda prefer that all availability is gone before it gets to my number so that I have another year to get all my ducks in a row. Apparently, if you pass on tix if they’re available it’s off to the back of the line for you. If they’re all gone, you simply move up the list.
"The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the talk" - Philip Marlowe
by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if there is a time slot before the 12:30.
I am 3059 on the wait list and have the same time slot. I wonder if those higher up have like a 9:00 time slot that morning.
In a post earlier I mentioned I was in the 6000s on the wait list. That was the last time I had checked. I checked this morning and realized it was 3059.
I'm number 2,941 on the waiting list.
I have a 12 pm slot.
We're at 3:30pm.
#8452. So it’s looking like bleachers may be all that’s left and that could be OK. It would also give us a year to get our ‘ducks in a row’ for 2013 STs.
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
Wow nice
While they suck you wont have to get there early for seats and when they’re good you could sell for a nice price.
Good for you -
This will probably be my first season missing a game at Wrigley. But Ill see 4+ ST games and all the games in SD and LA so at least I got that.
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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
How many?
Al, you must have seen the Ricketts interview on CSN with the ‘availables" draped over the seats … and that was a very limited right field view. Between that and a Jan. 12 deadline to pay the balance, I’m guessing there’s a whole lotta new STHs this year. TR and family & their bankers better hope so!!!
Oh … and how about Convention tix still available with 3 wks to go … a far cry from when the Cubs used to crow about selling out in 2-3 hrs – not that long ago.
Last year's convention didn't sell out, either.
And this one won’t unless a certain first baseman is signed.
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I'm not planning to sign with the Cubs before the Convention, Al.
;)
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
Rec'd for...
…the phrase “perpetual victory machine here on the North Side”. I love it!
It's a lot of fun...
…and a lot of commitment to be a season ticket holder. If you have the money and time to burn, you should definitely do it. If eating a couple hundred bucks when you can’t sell your seats will make you feel sick, maybe it’s not for you. Whatever you decide, I’m sure it won’t be easy!
Very cool
I’d need US residency before I could even contemplate getting season tickets.
Hope you guys can figure out how to make it work.
"Keep pushin' til' it's understood. And these badlands start treating us good."
What? Getting you U.S. residency?
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Dec 28, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
lol. love the cake topper...
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
That one above is after the 2011 season. Here's what they looked like when the season started...

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Congrats Zeke and Mrs. Zeke!
If I’m in the Chicago area, I’ll drop you guys a line and go with you!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 28, 2011 10:27 AM CST reply actions
Very cool, congrats!
I too got the offer, but I’m not going to be buying. If the Cubs were a bit more competitive, I’d consider it, but with the current state of the organization, I just can’t justify it.
Unfortunately, it's times like these
…when we aren’t happy with the state of the organization that you have to jump at the opportunity. By saying no, they force you to the end of the waitlist which is now 125,000 deep. If the Cubs were perenially successful right now, we would not be getting these opportunities to buy. So it’s a tough decision, but I fear I would regret it more in future years if I don’t take this chance now.
I can certainly relate.
And the Combo Plan sounds enticing, but that’s only in the bleachers. And while I love the bleachers, I’d miss the grandstand seating. Maybe if they sign Prince before the date of my scheduled time slot, I’ll change my mind. But right now, I don’t see it happening.
what are the days/dates for the combo plan?
by doofus cubs guy on Dec 28, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
I believe...
it’s more or less a nights/weekends package, and also includes Opening Day and a couple others. 55 games, I want to say.
Kanderber is correct
…55 games. All nights/weekends and includes Opening Day and Memorial Day. They only offered me the Combo Plan for the Bleachers. I believe other Season Ticket Holders may have had the Combo option for “bowl” seating as well.
They did not offer a partial plan for the bowl last year or as far as I know this year.
If they are, they are not telling the current ticket holders.
They didn't.
They had some partial plan holders, but those people were grandfathered in from years ago.
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Agreed! It would be very helpful to learn what we don't know that we don't know.
I know this sounds like a “Yogi-ism”, but I’m sure there is a lot to learn from other ST holders about being a ST holder.
Hey Al, what about suggesting this as a breakout session at the Cubs Convention?
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
Replay fail- this was to Brock I up above. Sorry about that Chief.
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
Hm.
Interesting idea. Not sure what exactly that would entail though.
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Congrats
I got the call last year. Just wait till you get that big box of tickets in the mail. It puts Christmas to shame.
by ferris2001 on Dec 28, 2011 3:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I truly can't wait for the moment the tickets arrive.
Even though I’m going in with a group, so they won’t all be mine, that will be a special day for this Cubs fan!
When they arrive
As the “ringleader” & STH of 8 tix – with a group of 10 brave souls – believe it … I “haunt” FedEx for day and hour of delivery … most valuable “package” since the birth of my son 20 yrs ago.
Good idea asking people to go in with you
Season tickets can be fun if you have people to share the experience with you. Over time, you’ll meet other season ticket holders. But you can’t count on seeing them each game that you attend – different schedules. But if you have people you know splitting tickets with you, you can plan games together.
Best of luck!
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
I tried it for a year and bailed.
I too had all the warm, fuzzy romantic feelings last December after I signed up. It was right after Ron’s death too; Cubbie emotions were running at an all-time high for me.
A horrid season and thousands of dollars later, there is no more romance attached to the notion of being a STH for me. Until the Cubs are good again (could be years), tickets will be widely available for below face value. There is simply no point to make such a large investment to watch a rebuilding project.
Weren’t you in the 8000s? I don’t exactly recall. If so, wow…
Keep this in mind – if I kept my seats, I’d be in my ideal location right now. After only 1 year! It sounds like turnover is enormous this year, and rightfully so.
I tried all last year to find a partner. Nothing. No one is interested except other STHs, and no one wants to give up their own account. You’ll have to find family and/or friends to split them with.
Brokers are avoiding these things like the plague as well. Don’t think you can easily just dump last-minute tickets for face. Brokers wouldn’t even offer me $1 for a ticket day of game for 200 level.
I have no idea what your situation is like, but if you and the wife only plan on seeing a few games, seasons would be the biggest waste of money ever. If you plan to basically live at Wrigley all summer, well, that’s a different story.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
by bluemagic9 on Dec 29, 2011 6:29 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
This is well reasoned.
I do appreciate your view on this, you expressed it well and in a reasonable way.
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Thanks.
The original post was very genuine. I just wanted to help the guy out a little.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
nodding
Very well said blue … brokers have had their heads handed to them for the last few yrs …
The secondary market was completely oversold … and hugely underbid – save for a few key games. The Cubs draw a lot from out-of-towners – and that’s been made much more attractive for them as the on-field performance declined.
That said blue … gotta tell ya … our group has had a few people leave the last couple years … and by reaching out to other members – as well as personal friends, etc., I’ve been able to completely fill up the group.
hmmm … just read Brock1’s post below … he echoes what one new member told me last year … “We were on the waiting list and were thrilled to have the chance to join a group like yours – so we didn’t have to be responsible for a full 81 games.” Moral of the story – be very diligent in reaching out to people who “know people” … it will be worth it.
It would definitely be tough
…if you didn’t have anybody to go in with you. That would be a huge investment, and the tickets could become a burden.
I was lucky enough to find 7 other people to go in with me in a matter of just a few days. So I have a group of 8 this first year, driving the cost way down and giving you a manageable amount of games that you will want to attend. I think this is a great situation for me and my plan is to get that group down to about 4 over the next few years when I can afford to spend more on the tickets, and when I plan for the Cubs to be more successful, thus making selling tickets easier.
All in all, this is an opportunity I’ve been waiting 10 years for, so I couldn’t pass it up. I’m looking forward to seeing how this 1st season goes, but plan to be a STH for many, many years.
question...are those 7 other people committed to the tickets each season, or could they all drop out next year on you?
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by cooliogirl47 on Dec 29, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
They are not committed for each season
…which I don’t want them to be. Half of the group consists of family or lifelong friends that share the same passion for the Cubs that I do and were just as excited as me that I got this opportunity.
So I would say half consist of people that could potentially decide they don’t want to do it next year. I just wanted the big group this first year or two to help spread costs. Like I mentioned before, the eventual plan is to get that group down to about 4 of us that will be committed on a yearly basis.
You may want to keep the bigger group around
Depending on the numbers of seats you got (2 or 4, etc), the larger group can help you not only spread the cost out but also the number of games you attend.
I’m part of a large group and we run a ticket draft, akin to a fantasy baseball draft. This enables everyone to prioritize the games that they want to attend and the other events in life that they have – work, vacations, weddings, etc. So in our group, no one is responsible to all the tickets to one game. And there are different people at each game to see and catch up with.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 29, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
So you just come up with a random
…draft order? That sounds like a pretty good idea. I am trying to come up with the best and most fair option for distributing the games. That sounds like it could be a pretty good idea as it allows everyone to pick the dates that are best for them.
Are your season tickets in your name? If so, do you give yourself any kind of perks over the others (i.e., picking the 1 game you most want to go to?)
Draft order = Numbers out of a Cubs hat
So, for example, if you had 4 seats and 8 people in the group your draft order would be:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
That would be rounds one and two. And you just keep going back and forth, “closing out” games as the tickets are picked. And by going up and back in the draft, it minimizes selecting 1st after the first pick.
We also have limits on the 1st round or 2 rounds – no more than 2 tickets to any one game. This way, the first 3 people don’t get all the Red Sox tickets.
We allow people to pick a number of tickets, not just picking all the tickets to one game. So 4 guys could each pick one ticket to a game, or 2 guys could pick 2 tickets and each bring a wife or girlfriend with them.
The tickets are in my name, but I don’t get any draft perks. We run our draft at a Wrigleyville bar (so someone does buy me a beer) and use an excel spreadsheet to conduct the draft.
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Dec 29, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I really like this idea.
I think I will try to implement it. Makes for a fun way to do it, and it’s fair for everyone. We are just getting 2 seats, so probably won’t limit the seats at all, just let them pick their games.
Thanks for all of the info, I’m really looking forward to being a STH. Where are your seats? If you don’t mind me asking.
My seats are in the Right Field corner
Section 240.
We were not always this organized. Our first year, we physically split up the tickets and shuffled them. Then we just dealt them out and you got what you got. It was easier to do when tickets were cheaper and we were all single.
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"Pain is inevitable, suffering is an option." - Dale Sveum
by RiskyBusiness on Dec 29, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Drafts
Brock … Gotta tell ya … having run my STH group for 23 years, I shudder at the thought of a draft. I’m part of a Bulls group – only 41 games – with 10 guys – and the draft is a p.i t. a.
I take requests for games wanted and not wanted … but in the end, I do all the scheduling … everybody gets allocated an equal number of games per month – it’s not that difficult and, for 23 yrs, I’ve never had any complaints.
If you’d like, my email address is in my profile … I’d be happy to share the “formula” I use … good luck to you.
MB, I looked on your profile
…but didn’t see your email address. Maybe I’m just not looking in the right place?
Wait - you had season tickets last year??
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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Damn your Vulcan logic Spock...er, bluemagic9.
Yeah, you make great points. After the initial fuzzy feeling of the Cubs ‘love’ faded, we started taking a hard look at the real costs beyond just the tickets.
The actual number of games out of 55 we could even attempt to attend: 28
Minimum number of games we’d have to sell or find others to take: 27
The 4-hour drive in from and then back to Michigan; gas & tolls
Overnight lodging for those back to back game days/nights plus overnight parking in the city (considerable)
Ground transportation in Chicago (minimal- if needed)
Food and beverages both at the ballpark and at city restaurants (no small thing)
Then there was the consideration of the time commitment; we both get a lot of work done around the house and yard on weekends. We’d lose that time.
Then there is the guilt factor. I’m graduating one kid from college in 2012 but my youngest still has three more years and is home over the summer taking more classes. The cost of this summer Cubs adventure would equal one full term of tuition, room & board. It’s hard to say, “sorry honey, you’ll have to take out a student loan to cover it. We’re off to Chicago!”
To pull it off, we’d be raiding our 30th Wedding Anniversary ‘trip to Hawaii’ fund. Which, we’re willing to do. But the account would take a major hit.
And to top it off, Mrs. Zeke got a seasonal job offer from the local minor league team last night to work in their retail shop at the ballpark this summer. She’s a HS teacher and was looking for some summer employment to help pay for college costs for the kids. So now she’s likely to work as much or more than I do there in the summer. There are many conflicts between the respective home schedules for both teams.
So the ledger is starting to weigh heavily towards us just framing the letter from the Cubs and telling them “thanks so much for the offer, but we just can’t swing it this year.” :(
Being a ‘grown-up’ sucks.
But, we haven’t made a final decision yet. I’m hoping we get to speak with other ST holders at the convention in a couple of weeks. We have until Jan. 28th to decide – IF season tickets are still even an option then. Our time to ‘pick’ at Wrigley that day is 3:30pm. STs may all be gone for the year by then – or bleachers may be the only option left.
If that’s the case, the letter says we could decline STs and remain on the wait list until 2013. That could actually be the best scenario and buy us some time to pull together a group to use all the tickets next season.
And yes, we were/are #8452 in the list. So the Cubs appear to be digging deep. Good business sense, but…
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
"Being a grown-up sucks."
Yep. It does.
You mentioned being interested in the 56 game Combo package. They only offer that in the Bleachers right now. Every seated location still requires the purchase of a Daily package, all 81 games.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
Right. Some 81 game reserved & terrace packages are hundreds less than the 55 game bleacher package.
It’s kind of hard to justify STs considering you save less than $100 for the full year on the 55 game bleacher package over just buying individual game tickets for the same games.
Obviously, buying individually is subject to availability per game, but still, it just isn’t enough of a financial incentive to buy STs. Not when you have to find a way to get rid of 54 tickets to the games you can’t make (2×27). I’d rather pay a little more to buy tickets to an in-demand game I think.
Still mulling it all over.
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion? (Now #8452 in the Cubs Season Ticket Wait List...)
What are the prices( Low and High)
Obviously high for the better seats but I have never looked at pricing. I may want to be put on the waiting list since I figure I am out of school this year and should have a decent income in 5 to 10 years.
You might as well put yourself on the list.
It doesn’t cost anything.
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Just put myself on the waiting list
I am lucky number 118843. At first I misread and thought my account number was the waiting list that number was huge.
this is how I feel...
I think one of the coolest things in the world would be to become a Cubs season ticket holder…..but the way I look at it is, I could pay $1000 to $2000 on bargain priced, face value or over-priced tickets even, each season and it still would cost me less.
side-note:
coolest thing….owning the Cubs
another cool thing….Al’s job :)
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I live in WI
and my ex girlfriends mom is on the packers wait list. she moved from was at 42k about 11 years ago. last year she was at 35k. yikes.
doesn’t help the packers have sold out 300 consecutive games
Congrats.
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2.Hire cheap players-✔
3.When you suck don't give in to anyone's demands-✔
4. Change is a bad thing-✔
by RIP Slim on Dec 29, 2011 12:09 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I've heard people put their newborns on it..
..so they can have tickets by the time they’re middle-aged. Crazy.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
The only way to do ok
is to get a group involved.
OR, if the team becomes a hot ticket again, as you all know.
I have a Daily Plan, and since 2009 I have had to eat many tickets. Last year was the worst.
I had developed a nice list over the years as my seats have changed during the last year so now I am in the 2nd and 3rd row in Terrace Box Infield, at 1st base.
I was able to convince one of the people that would buy 10-14 games annually, to take half the season this year. My brother and I split the rest, and I think someone else I think will take 10-15 games. I will end up spending $1000-$1200 after all is said and done, and maybe less if I get premium dollare from some Red Sox and Tigers fans.
Even still, this doesn’t make up for the money I lost in the last few suck-a*^ years.
With pro sports, like Theo, you want to buy on the low side when the team is bad – if you can afford it! If not, it is MUCH more cost effective to just buy tickets when you need them. They will always be available. If you have to pay more than face value, think of it as a mere fraction of buying ST, right?
One thing that is really, REALLY, aggrivating: the Cubs should offer Combo Plans to Season Ticket Holders in ALL seats. The fans support the garbage they have been putting on the field, and if they are going to sell all of these mini-packs to the general public, cutting into the STH opportunities to recoup something, they should allow us the courtesy of letting us buy the whole season, or a part, to reward us for our investment. As far as I know, this is unlike many other clubs including those who have been in the playoffs recently.
And to Bluemagic9, thank you for toning your anger down. Your points are well-taken.
I'm confused that I received the letter also
As I was offered bleacher season tix last year, put down a deposit and then decided against the purchase after I deemed it a clear loss based on the few number of games I could attend as I live a few hours away and would be dependant on stubhub. So I thought I would be at the end of the list (as that is what the email said) but as this years email says if only bleacher seats are available you dont lose your spot so maybe that explains it. I’m probably going to make the trip the night before for the bulls game and then my appointment at 1pm. I would really like to get them as I love the cubs and could accept some losses as I believe I’d make them up on my bulls tickets (also almost never go and sell them easily) as I eventually there will be a point I wont have the opportunity and they will be good and I like to think they will be able to stay an annual contender with their resources and hopefully now solid management. You should hope I dont get them as I was cursed this year at football and lets just say I have season tickets to the team that gets the #1 pick in the draft regardless of how this weekends games go.
My two cents
I have been a STH since 2004. I wouldn’t trade it for the world. Before 2004, I was part of a 10 person group that split 4 tickets in Sec 142. That was a great section. But, during the playoffs in 2003 (the good part vs the Braves), I remember thinking that I never want to miss a playoff game again. Since I only had a 1/10 share, I decided to get my own the next year. Luckily, I had a buddy to split them with, which helps. They key to making it work is pre-planning and finding people to split them with. Also, I have studied this for a long time – the 200 and 500 levels are the only ones that are “worth it” if you need to resell a bunch of games. And, even the 200 level is tricky. You need to be close to home plate and not too far back under the roof. I learned a long time ago to move to Sec 242 because the brokers (and locals) know that those seats are in the sun all game and people love to buy them. But, the seats in Sec 209 Row 24 – Good luck selling those!
Additionally, the upper deck is a tale of two worlds. Although a true baseball fan can admit that the infield 400 level (Upper Deck Box) is one of the best seats in Wrigley, they are way overpriced and you will never make your money back reselling those seats. The 500 level is a different story, though. The seats cost 1/2 as much as the 200 level and yet they sell for similar prices on Stubhub, especially for the huge games. I added a couple seats up there to my season tickets and I was able to make money on those even last year. They only cost about $1700/seat and you can sell the big games (OD, White Sox, Yankees) for $75-100 seat.
So, sorry for the rambling. I am just trying to give advice to the OP. If you can’t commit to going to at least 20 games and/or don’t have a partner, you need to look at the 200 or 500 level. And, judging from the selection I saw on Thursday of the season ticket relocation week, there aren’t any good 200 level seats left. Only the ones in Row 15 and higher where you see about 25% of the fly balls. If you can get something in the 500’s, go for it.
Like someone said, this is a buy low opportunity. While we all know bluemagic’s opinion on this, he came in at the worst year in the 15 years I have been either a partner in or the single holder of season tickets. I have made money or broke even on my season tickets every single year, including last year (barely). In 2008, I made A LOT of money. During the forgettable other years, I still made money and went to games for free. You just need to plan and sell your unused tickets weeks in advance on Stubhub or Ebay. If you wait until the week of the game and the team sucks, bluemagic is 100% correct, you won’t get $1 for a tickets. But, I sell about 50% of my tickets before the Cubs leave Mesa and the rest before the ivy covers the walls.
No one ever brags about buying IBM or Apple stock at their peak. You need to roll the dice once in a while. If you can break even or even lose a little money for a couple years of rebuilding, you will be rewarded big time when they get good again and tickets are 2x face like they were during 2008. And, I haven’t even mentioned the playoffs. You can pay for your season in the 500 level just off of the NLDS alone. If they make it further…go pick out a new car you like.
Opportunities like this don’t come around all the time. Just my two cents, though.
by shoebox76 on Dec 30, 2011 5:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Did you happen to see what 500 levels were available
…at your relocation event? And do you have any advice on what would be “good” 500 levels to get. I’ve sat up there many times, and the seats are definitely underrated, but I just wonder what row and/or section cutoff you would use to determine what’s a “good” buy.
I really appreciate your post, gives great insight into what it’s like to be a STH.
Locations
There were a only a few sets of 2 and 3 seats scattered around the 500’s. Mine are in the infield next to the press box, so I am happy there, but even if you go out to the outfield seats, you save about $4-500 per seat, which makes those even less of a financial commitment. If you could get anything in the first three rows in the 500’s, I would take them, no matter what section they were. After that, you would probably be OK in the infield 500’s.
Like I said before – you won’t get rich off of them but you won’t take a bath up there. I’ve already sold OD ($150/both tickets), Red Sox Fri/Sat ($150, $180), and all three White Sox games ($400 total). That is about 25% of my cost right there.
I hope this helps. I have been doing this for a long time now. Make sure to look at the source of some other opinions, especially when they have one year of experience in the worst year to own season tickets in the history of the Cubs. It’s a little like someone telling you that the stock market is a dumb investment for losers only, and they tell you this after the tech bubble or the last crash. If you look at one year only, then season tickets sucked last year. But, if you look at an average 80 win season plus or minus a few wins, you will do fine as long as you stay out of the 400 level.
Thanks for writing.
I’m having second thoughts about this, and am really starting to lean in the direction of buying. I’m just really worried about taking a loss next year, as I remember how easy it was to get dirt cheap tickets last year. I went to probably a dozen games, and paid face value once (Cards Saturday game in August)… every other time was well under face value.
I’m interested in hearing from STH’s on this.
You were constantly talking about your cheap tickets.
I’m shocked you’re even considering.
I’d advise people like you to save their thousands, and when the mythical World Series appearance actually occurs, you’ll have no problem buying a Super Bowl-priced ticket for it.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
by bluemagic9 on Dec 30, 2011 10:23 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Have to keep in mind that your experience
may have been different had you been able to find a partner or even a group to go in with you on the tickets.
I agree that on your own, the cost of season tickets and the burden could kill you. But with the group I have and the final cost, I can’t justify passing it up and being sent to the back of the line.
I'm considering...
mainly because it’s something I’ve waited years for. Yes, I enjoy going to baseball games for cheap. And yes, I’d look to sell the majority of these tickets. But the idea of turning this down and then being behind 125,000 other people is kinda worrisome.
You will take a bath if you're looking to sell the majority.
It’s just a fact.
But I do understand the desire, obviously.
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by bluemagic9 on Dec 30, 2011 10:54 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
If you think about Cubs Season Tickets as a gain vs. loss
Yes, there is a very good chance that 2012 will be a loss. And conversely, Blackhawks or Bulls season tickets would be a gain this season.
The best way to enjoy season tickets is with a group of friends. Your season tickets become your place to be with friends and family. I would not want season tickets to attend games alone.
The key to season tickets is to include the cost of season tickets in your annual budget and understand if you can afford the tickets, regardless of re-selling tickets.
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 30, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
Risky, did you attend the relocation event
this year? Just curious as to what you saw available. Your section sounds pretty popular, so I’m guessing there’s rarely an opportunity to move to 239-242.
No relocation event for me
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by RiskyBusiness on Dec 30, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Sadly, it's not a buy-low opportunity at all.
In terms of finances, it’s about as buy-high as it gets. And we already know the team will be lousy due to a full rebuild that is long overdue.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
by bluemagic9 on Dec 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
So when would deem it buy low?
I imagine only after the team is on an obvious upswing (which would require you to be in the top 200 on the list at exactly that time). That is not a likely scenario. Just like breaking even is not going to happen for a few years. But I would like your (and anyone who feels they have insight) on how much someone would lose on a $3700 purchase of a pair of upper deck reserved seats assuming they sold every ticket they could with pricing them appropriately up front. As I was incorrectly on the season ticket holder list last year from putting down a deposit I made $1500 from Yankees tickets so figure I could get say $800 from the red sox and be able to eat all the bronze and silver tix costing me $700 or so. Obviously I wouldnt get zero for every ticket but don’t know how much of a loss there would be from the $31/27/20 tickets for the better games.
by bashuck on Dec 30, 2011 12:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
About the red sox
Not suggesting I’d profit $800 from my 6 red sox tickets, referring to the extra tickets offered through the season ticket holder presale
by bashuck on Dec 30, 2011 12:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
By definition, it is
This is a buy low opportunity. So, when you say “buy high”, I don’t see any way to argue that.
If you are referring to the cost of season tickets, they are always going to be high in terms of dollar cost and that is never going to change. The Cubs were terrible last year and the season ticket prices stayed flat. (except in the bleachers). Like it or not, the Cubs had some very cheap tickets for a long time and those days are over.
In terms of the quality of the team, this is about as bad as it is going to be. They were terrible last year and should be pretty bad this year, but at least there is some hope up in the front office and some money to be spent in the next couple years.
So, I have no idea how you would call this a buy high opportunity.
I think by "buy high"
… he’s referring to the ticket prices.
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yep, but
Like I said, they’re never going lower. Ever. So, this is as low of a point as you can get.
Probably true from a price standpoint.
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Bleachers are down 14% this year.
So there goes that argument.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
Unlikeable and illiterate
This conversation is about the 200 and 500 levels.
by shoebox76 on Dec 30, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You actually think seasons are a buy-low opportunity, lol.
Whatever. Instead of pissing off Al with some choice words, I’ll just let you keep kidding yourself.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
"You can pay for your season in the 500 level just off of the NLDS alone. If they make it further…go pick out a new car you like."
Yeah, but how many new cars’ worth are you going to waste while waiting for the mythical World Series appearance?
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
by bluemagic9 on Dec 30, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Again, please read the whole post
Seriously, just leave this discussion already. I am trying to give some real advice on how I have MADE money every year on these tickets, while going to a lot of games that I love for free. You picked the wrong year and probably bought seats in 434 Row 10 or 218 Row 24 or some other sucker section.
Did you also buy gold at $1900 and CSCO at $198? You seem to have the magic touch, mr blue magic.
by shoebox76 on Dec 30, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You think you're buying AAPL at $2/share or something.
There’s just no reasoning with someone like you who is convinced you’re getting a great deal.
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by bluemagic9 on Dec 30, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would appreciate it ...
… if you would simply stop commenting here on season ticket issues.
Look, we get it. You got season tickets last year. You were excited. You took a financial bath, you felt screwed, and now you feel like telling everybody in the entire known universe that it’s a bad deal.
You’re perfectly entitled to feel that way. But WE KNOW! So stop.
You have plenty to add to this site on every other Cubs topic. But I would like you to stop making comments on this one. Thanks.
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Ironically, I didn't take much of a bath at all.
I simply paid for all the games I attended, and broke even on the ones I sold. I was lucky.
I do know plenty of people who took giant baths though, especially in the Bleachers and the Club/Field Box.
I’ve said all I can say on this topic without getting banned anyway, so yes, time to move on.
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by bluemagic9 on Dec 31, 2011 2:30 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
There's no doubt that people did lose a lot of money on season tickets last year.
I’m glad you broke even. You’ve decided not to buy them this year. That’s a legitimate choice.
But again, you don’t have the right to blast everyone who renews, or decides to buy. That’s their choice, also a legitimate one.
Moving on.
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Any thoughts on buying seats in the 100's?
I was able to pick up ST’s in section 142 this year, right on the wall. Feel good about them, but I will have to sell a lot of games. Any advice?
On the price sheet I have it shows
the “total” price after the 12% amusement tax. Anybody know if this will be my final total, or are there other taxes, convenience fees, etc. that they will tack on?
If you buy tickets directly from the Cubs website you will pay an extra service charge.
For example a STH with tickets in the Infield Terrace Reserved pays $174.72 for Holiday Pack A while a person buying it online pays $205.48.
Made it official yesterday.
Purchased 2 bleacher seats for the Combo Plan. For all of you current season ticket holder’s, when do you typically receive your tickets? The representative yesterday said they typically ship in March, but I thought I’d ask you guys when you get yours usually?
Thanks, Al. I was hoping for a little sooner :) Hopefully it's early March.
I was hoping to have the tickets in hand when my group got together to divide the games, but waiting until March is cutting it a little close.
Yep. It does cut it close.
I’m in a group. Waiting for the tickets not only to come, but finding a date to get together to split them that works for all of us can bring it right down to the wire. Makes it difficult to make other plans for the summer. Not that I have any other plans for the summer other than deciding which other games to get tickets for. ;-)
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Which reminds me
I have to contact my season ticket rep to arrange to pick them up instead of having them shipped, because I’ll be at spring training when they arrive.
Anyone else planning to be out of town in mid or late March can do the same.
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My Tickets
Does anyone know if the tickets will show up on the ‘My Tickets’ area of the Cubs website prior to March?
The site has shifted over to 2012 now in its calendar view, but I still don’t see my individual tickets there.
Awwww, nuts.
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They'll show up in March
I actually just paid for my tickets today, and also spoke with a Cubs representative just to make sure the payment was received and they told me that the tickets will not show up in the “My Tickets” area of the Cubs website until the actual hard tickets get sent out in March.
For current STH
After each year, do you have the option to increase your number of STH seats?

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