Surprise Teams for 2011
Who are your surprise teams for 2011? Name one positive and one negative team, and why.
My surprise negative team is the Phillies, while they have a fearsome rotation, there are age and injury questions across the board on offense. Every infielder not named Ryan Howard have missed significant time, and Jimmy Rollins is showing his age. Raul Ibanez is also on the downside of his career. Subtract Jayson Werth and insert an unproven Dominic Brown and there is a better than even chance that the offense trends downward. The rotation is led by ironman Roy Halladay, but Cliff Lee has had injury concerns, and it was only two seasons ago that Roy Oswalt was slipping to a 4.12 ERA. I'm not saying that the Phillies are going to slip to a losing record or anything, but any slip could be taken advantage of by the Braves, Marlins or a talented when healthy Mets squad.
My unexpected positive team is the Rays. I know that they were a playoff team last year, but in a division with the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays, and considering the personnel losses this offseason, they are not favored to return to the postseason. I think the Rays will surprise because of a deep pitching staff that is competitive on a spot for spot basis with any team in the division, and because of the life left in Manny Ramirez's bat. Even after losing Carl Crawford and Carlos Pena to free agency, the offense is still built on an elite bat in Evan Longoria, and useful parts at most positions. I believe that Manny will see a resurgence this year due to finally being released from the burden of playing the field, and a chance to stick it to the Red Sox. A deep farm system able to reload the bullpen will also help, with former top pitching prospect Jake McGee ready to fill in for the departed Rafael Soriano. The biggest hindrance I see for the Rays is will they be able to add the payroll needed to augment the team at the trade deadline? The owner has shown flexibility in the past to increase payroll, but they as always in a different strata of spending than the rest of the division.
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Twins are going to be down. Lots of bullpen losses.
Royals are going to be better than expected. Wait for guys like Hosmer and Moustakas to start pounding the bats in June/July, and justlikethat the Royals will be the talk of baseball a la Heyward or Hamilton of years past.
The Braves are going to be fantastic.
That’s all I got for now.
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Giants Down, Brewers Up
I was originally going to say the Padres down, after trading Adrian Gonzalez, but that seemed too easy. I think the Giants pitchers are going to experience the hangover from the extended post-season last year. A lot of extra innings that many of them have never thrown before. Similar to the down season that Cole Hamels had in 2009 after all of his post season innings in 2008. I don’t see Andres Torres being in the top 10 in the N.L. in extra base hits all season again either. Miguel Tejada should not be a shortstop at this point of his career either.
The Brewers line-up is solid with the exception of shortstop and catcher and they have dramatically improved their biggest weakness from 2010 which was their starting rotation. Greinke and Marcum replacing Bush and Suppan/Parra will be a big plus. Prince Fielder is playing for his next big contract too.
I Find myself agreeing with this too.
Also as mentioned by others the a’s with a healthy Brett anderson could be prertty decent…they’re built like last years giants but the pitchers are much less proven/known.
by SenorGato on Feb 24, 2011 7:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Some good points
I think even with that Phillies Rotation, you have to wonder if the pen and offense will be good enough. I just have a hunch that the Phillies will win wild card and Atlanta wins the Division. I also see Dodgers winning the division. They got a lot of good pitching. Im also gonna make a wild guess that Cards will not win the division and it will most likely be Brewers or Reds. They downgraded there defense and im not sure how solid there Closer will be. I also feel like Wainwright’s late season injury will hinder him this year.
I like the Dodgers pitching too,
but where are the runs going to come from? They’ll finish third. To SF and Colorado.
"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella
My surprise team
is the Louisville Colonels. They’re surprising because most people thought they disbanded after the 1899 season. But they’ve got several good, surprising players like Honus Wagner. Sure, most people think Wagner is a good player, but most people also thought he died in 1955. Yet he still has more range to his left than Jeter has.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 23, 2011 2:49 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
They're doomed
They’ve traded all their best players to the Giants.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 23, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
hahahaahah
rec’d just for the “They’re surprising because most people thought they disbanded after the 1899 season” line
Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!
Red Sox up, Rays down
The Red Sox made some moves this offseason to improve offensively. I don’t see the Rays addition of Manny and Damon as complete positives. I’m not entirely sure why they were signed other than to maybe sell a few tickets or fill a roster spot while a young prospect needs another year before he’s ready.
The Cubs - positively
To paraphrase Charlie Brown- “Tell your projections to shut up.”
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
+1
Though I don’t have any real issues with projection systems…
Cubs are an improved team….Cardinals have some questions….Reds’ pitching doesn’t wow me…no way they tank against the Pirates this year like they did last year…
I also like the Mets to show up this year....
I see a return of the Beltran…arguably the most underrated player in baseball over the past decade.
I think you mean underperforming.
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On paper the Cubs are basically the same team at the start of 2011 as they were at the start of 2010
A little better in the bullpen and at SS.
Btter rotation....
Better bullpen…a year of Castro…probably better 1b production certainly more stable…aramis should be healthier…oh and once again more talented pitching. Not to mention well probably see youg help like the two jacksons later on….at the worst they’ll be younger and more athletic….I’m optimistic.
by SenorGato on Feb 24, 2011 4:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Btter rotation....
Better bullpen…a year of Castro…probably better 1b production certainly more stable…aramis should be healthier…oh and once again more talented pitching. Not to mention well probably see youg help like the two jacksons later on….at the worst they’ll be younger and more athletic….I’m optimistic.
by SenorGato on Feb 24, 2011 7:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
when looking for surprise teams
its always best to focus on age
older teams that have the potential to surprise to the negative include: NYY, PHI, STL
younger teams that have the potential to surprise to the upside include: OAK, COL, ATL
I also think BAL could be a lot better and no one notices because of the division they play in. Part of the reason the NYY have some downside this year is not only their age but BAL, TOR, TB are all young teams that could surprise
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 23, 2011 8:35 AM CST reply actions
as i write the cards into the negative surprise group
the Wainwright news breaks that he may need TJ
wow…. Cards are in trouble
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 23, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
Damn i must be psychic
“I also feel like Wainwright’s late season injury will hinder him this year.”
I think the O's will be a surprise team too
They have made some nice addition and have been adding young talent to the big league club for a few years now. Won’t be a playoff team, but they will be much improved.
Also like the A’s call. Really solid rotation. If they can get some hitting could definitely overtake LAA and maybe even challenge Texas.
I'm picking the O's to be a surprise team too.
I wonder if they just might be able to break the losing season streak and end up at with 81 wins. Hitting 81 wins seemed to be the turning point for the Brewers a few years ago. They’ve been competitive in the years since and their attendance numbers have reflected this.
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by cowsarecool220 on Feb 24, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Yankees
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part, but I think the Yankees are ready for a fall. Their starting pitching is a mess. Rivera is 40+, he has to be headed downhill. Their infield is old and the outfield is nothing to brag about. I just don’t see how they can compete, especially in the AL East.
by CubbieFaninOhio on Feb 23, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions
Rivera's always going to be good.
But you’re right about the rest of that team, especially once you get past their first couple of starters.
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Like surprises
Postive: In the AL the Rays and the Angels. In the NL the Cubs.
Negative: In the AL the Yankees wouldn’t be a surprise, so I’ll say the Twins. In the NL the Cardinals.
If the Rays enter the season with Farnsworth as their closer
Their season is over.
Manny is old and who knows exactly what is left in him. Somewhat the same for Damon.
James Shields isn’t the same guy he’s been in the past. I do like the rest of the rotation, though.
Which Ben Zobrist is real? Is Sean Rodriguez going to live up to the hype?
They lost a ton from their bullpen.
So for me, the Rays being up would definitely be a surprise. I’d rank them 3rd at the highest and possibly behind Baltimore if the O’s can get any decent pitching at all out of the young guys.
Valid Concerns
but I believe that Jake McGee is in line to be the closer, he had a good cup of coffee last year and has the prospet pedigree. And as bad as people have had it out for Farnsworth, he has been a good reliever the last two seasons.
by neifiisgreat on Feb 24, 2011 5:28 AM CST up reply actions
Sporting News
FWIW. An article in the Sporting News 2011 Baseball Preview magazine had the Cubs listed as the positive surprise team and the Rays as the negative surprise team. The author had the Cubs gaining 10 wins and the Rays losing 10 wins from last years totals.
I can see 2003 all over again...
The sleeping Giant…
Well, the Fish beat the Giant in 2003.
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by cowsarecool220 on Feb 24, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Chicago Cubs....
You don’t have to get better, if team’s around you get worse (Cardinals).
But seriously….it’s not that big of a surprise…but the Braves. More surprising, is I predict the Braves will win the East.
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Kind of early to predict this but some trends are already emerging
With me I am focused on the NL Central
In the NL the Cardinals are in big trouble losing 35 starts from a pitcher who averaged 19.5 wins in the last two seasons. Cardinals are old, full of uncertainty with their #1 player who will possibly play more selfishly. Theriot we know about his defensive weaknesses and then Berkman in the OF? Look to age and injuries.
Surprise up, yes look to youth per example SD last year. But also a fundamental change in pre-season prep both individually and clubhouse. ESPN reports that the Cubs clubhouse is very energized and throughout the roster came in early.
With me I want to see what Quade does with Soriano and Fukudome.
Reds? Could they be a typical Dusty one year wonder?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
how does one play more selfishly in baseball?
Pujols’ best interests align exactly with the Cardinals’, hit the ball. Its not like this is basketball and he would start jacking up shots to boost his numbers to the hindrance of the team. If albert plays better, it helps the cards.
by neifiisgreat on Feb 24, 2011 10:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
My only guess...
…as to what Ivy Walls may have meant is that perhaps Pujols won’t be so generous about playing through pain/injuries as he was in the past.
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sorry, but trying to keemy noted verbosity down
Two angles;
1) Pain, illness, fatigue and injuries is one
2) situational hitting is another where a fly ball instead of a HR or is in order or taking less walks…(something to watch)
3) Defensively staying in front of balls at 1B or waving the ARAM glove is another…
but all speculation…to a degree simply look at Greinke’s comments of last year.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
meant keep my and instead keemy
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Braves
They just always seem to make it work and have some great young pitching.
Mets are going to be REALLY bad.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
The one thing I really like about this team
is that no one, and I mean no one will be picking them to win anything. If the Cubs suck, well, that’s to be expected. There’s been great expectations on this team for at least the last four seasons. This one, no one really expects anything (I know that’s not true, but the casual fan/ media observers won’t). They can just go out and play baseball. I think it bodes well.
Sometimes, not having that pressure on you helps.
It’s weird that way.
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But not having talent hurts more than not having pressure helps
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by lookingdeadred on Feb 26, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
The 1969 Mets pitching
would like a word, so would the Dodger teams of the early 60s.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
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by lookingdeadred on Feb 27, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
The 2011 Cubs just need to get goofy and have some fun.
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D'Backs...
They have a decent lineup, especially if Upton comes back strong. The pitching could be decent with Saunders/Hudson/Kennedy….plus Parker might show up. Sucks that they’re in what should be a pretty decent division out West…
Cubs have nothing to lose...
The Cubs have nothing to lose this year! No one expects them to win the division! We have great relief pitching and should have a strong rotation. So if our hitters produce like they should we will have a big season!

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