Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW
by dtpollitt n SWL on Feb 3, 2011 10:44 PM CST
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Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW. David Lee Roth is the best Van Halen lead and Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW. The Chicago Cubs will not compete in 2011 and do not require Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW. These three things are facts. A bit more detailed analysis after the jump.
With the retirement of Andy Pettitte, the Yankees are shockingly now down to only one big former steroid user. Of the 12 biggest off-season contracts, the Yankees signed three (it's almost as if they're not really trying anymore)--Jeter, Soriano, and Rivera, with Mariano the only contract any other team could possibly want. The Yankees embarrassingly missed out on Crawford and Lee, instead collecting questionables like Mitre, Garcia, and Sidd Finch to back-fill their rotation. The Yankee front of Sabathia, Hughes, and Burnett is set, but not on par with the Red Sox (Beckett, Lester, Lackey, Buchholz, Matsuzaka) and only a notch above the Rays (Price, Shields, Niemann). The Yankees need another top tier pitcher--and now--if they're to compete in the AL East.
Come on, it's everything
(Right now)
Catch that magic moment
Do it right here and now
It means everything
Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW
Zambrano is a decade younger than Pettitte, has a 10-point higher 127+ ERA, and is "fiery". Zambrano is due to make $18M in 2011 and 2012, with a $19M vesting option in 2012. Pettitte made $5.5M in 2010. The Yankee payroll is already north of $213M in 2011. The most comparable player we have in a large-market is probably John Lackey, who is three years older, plays for Boston, and made nearly $19M in 2010. Zambrano has averaged a 3.1 WAR over ten seasons, Lackey, a 3.9, and Pettitte, a 4.1. All three are workhorses, regularly hit 200 IP and 160 K. Regardless of your thoughts on his on- and off-field issues, Zambrano is a very good pitcher. So let's get rid of him.
Comparing ERA:
Comparing WHIP:
Comparing BABIP:
Considering that Carlos is now in the prime of whatever career he's going to have, we should at least get one solid prospect and maybe a fringe guy back. Not knowing much of anything at all about the Yankees farm system, we conducted a super-dee-duper scientifically sound move of Googling "Yankees 2011 Prospects" and found this article, which got us thinking. If we could get this Jesus DeRosa Montero guy, could he play 3B after Aramis is gone? Pipe dream? Perhaps, but other than asking for pitching prospects (or Granderson), we're not sure what would complete this trade.
Jesus Christ blessed us with intelligence, strapping good looks, and the intestinal fortitude to never give up, but unfortunately, he did not grace us with (1) minor league player development knowledge or (2) financial wherewithal. That's where you come in. What's it going to take to get this trade done? Yes, Zambrano has a full NTC. And no, this wouldn't be BCB if we failed to discuss getting rid of this albatross.
One step ahead, one step behind it
Now ya gotta run to get even
Make future plans, I'll dream about yesterday, hey
Come on turn, turn this thing around
Carlos Zambrano Must Be Traded to the Yankees RIGHT NOW
Also, Bryce Harper is swinging a 36 inch 47 ounce bat.
dtpollitt n SWL
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Carlos says NO!
and I agree with him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
And that's the key to this whole discussion....
and it’s in the very first post. Carlos would never approve this deal, at least right now. The only chance he would ever approve of this would be a trade deadline deal with the Yankees in or close to first place. Even then, it’s doubtful he would agree to it. His NTC makes all of this a pointless discussion, no matter how well thought out and backed up with stats it is. Love the visual aids too, BTW.
"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004
at least right now... but what about
RIGHT NOW!!!!!
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
No way DLR is the best VH singer
Hagar > Cherone > Roth.
by Bradsbeard on Feb 3, 2011 11:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Please put up the sarcasm indicator immediately.
As fate would have it, I heard “Atomic Punk” last night and it rocked me to my frozen core.
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Now I know you're being sarcastic!
"Keep pushin' til' it's understood. And these badlands start treating us good."
Not sarcastic!
Never liked Roth’s style. Much better band with Hagar, and Gary Cherone is a great singer.
I suppose its all a matter of opinion
but I never thought Roth was a very good singer per se. I also think the band made a lot better music in the late 80s and 90s, but I didn’t grow up in the 70s.
Yep...just not right now...
I see the Yankees staying close to BoSox. At the trade deadline, and if the Cubs are where I (and many others) predict they’ll be, dump Z on the Yankees and get some above average prospects in return. The Yankees will be ripe for the pickin’.
"I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die." - Anonymous
This rings true to me.
I’m not sure whether the Yankees would agree to acceptable deal right now. But if they’re in a dogfight with the Red Sox in July, maybe something could be worked out.
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I like that the Statler Brothers were named in the same post as Van Halen!
Would like to hear the Statlers sing “Beautiful Girls” or “Hot For Teacher”
I'd like to hear Van Halen sing "Elvira"
oops – I think that’s Oak Ridge Boys. Never mind…
still like to hear VH’s take on that. Wonder who’d get those deep notes.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Maybe "Flowers on the Wall"?
That would be a great VH cover. But it would have to be Roth. He did covers better.
“Pretty Woman” is much better than Hagar’s “Won’t get Fooled Again”….
Air Supply
I’m all outta love!!!!!!!
I have PMS & a GPS -- which means -- I am a bitch, and I will find you.
by cub in louies nest on Feb 4, 2011 10:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Austrian Van Halen is The von Trapp Family Singers
but how about Van Halen singing “The Hills Are Alive”, kinda gives those lyrics a new meaning.
No, there never was a group called the Statler Brothers,
Unless one of them was named Waldorf, and the other was named Statler!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
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BAH!
WE’LL NEVER TELL
But if you promote us to moderators we’ll consider your request.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Yeah, that'll happen.
I guess I’ll just look at the HTML myself.
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I have no idea how we did that.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
amateurs...the both of you.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Feb 4, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
We always write them together.
I think it’s safe to assume the pictures may come from one source and one source only, however.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Yep--the internet.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
All this bluster and blather and thought-provoking prattle...
…yet not a single mention of zombies?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I see your Carlos and raise you by this Zambrano
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I wasn't expecting to see a reference to Schalke on BCB today...
This is really keeping me on my toes.
0-0 draw in Dortmund today puts them temporarily in the top half of the table…maybe not for long, but they’re there now.
Just remembered, didn't Carlos Zambrano transfer to St.Pauli...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
He's there on loan, I believe.
Truth be told, I’m not sure I ever actually saw him enter a game…not that I’m able to watch all that many Schalke games.
Why the heck
Would you want Zambrano when you have Sidd Finch
If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.
This....
…..I wish we could have gotten in on the Finch bidding. I hear he’s a good stabilizing clubhouse presence.
"Every day when I show up, I try to provide a little laughter...some days when I pitch it gets pretty funny, too." -- Ryan Dempster, 5/2010
by CaughtInTheVines on Feb 4, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
He is far too zen for my tastes
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 4, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
I thought
Sidd’s velo was down last year. Only hitting 108 iirc.
Zambrano should be traded for Sidd Finch and Jesus DeRosa Montero
we could include Koyie Hill and Aram in the deal if NYY is willing to throw some $$$$ our way as well
Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
We can never give up the patron saint of pure awesome
Long live Koyie Hill
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
So does TJ11.
Okay, that’s it for me here at BCB tonight. Back to APC for me now.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 6, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
i have no problem with him as a back up
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A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
as long as Soto stays healthy
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by lookingdeadred on Feb 7, 2011 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
This is what happens when
People shovel out their car for 2 hours. And just as you brush off the last snowflake, Streets & Sans plows you back in.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
Just like baseball in Chicago
Streets, a Wrigleyville native (i.e. 3 year transplant from Michigan) is the Cubs fan and plows all the streets north of Madison.
Sans, a Bridgeport native who still lives with his Mom – HEY MOM! CAN WE GET SOME MEATLOAF? – is a sox fan and would plow the allies of Oak Lawn before he would venture north of Madison street.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Feb 4, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
this NEEDS to be Green
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Yes.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
Close
Street and Smith’s Baseball yearbook.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Feb 4, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
LOLOLOL
This is freaking hilarious, Dan. Thanks for my morning snort.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
The one that did it for me
Was the intelligence, good looks picture. If I had been drinking something when I opened that picture, these clowns would have owed me a new computer.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:37 PM CST up reply actions
Best post of 2011...so far
And yes, DLR was superior to Hagar. Or at the very least, DLR era songs were better than Hagar era songs. There’s got to be a connection, no?
I am an American aquarium drinker...
And speaking of MTV...(you were, weren't ya?)
…I just read that Beavis N’ Butthead are re-uniting for more shows…and they’ll be pushin’ 30. The Great Cornholio is returning.
"I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die." - Anonymous
That would be great...
I’d love to take Brackman and David Adams off their hands.
I would do this.
Of course the “Z” man would have to bite. So in all seriousness Z would not want to go to the Yanks? I know the hitting aspect, but really?
Yanks system has some gems I have been told.
But Al
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Confused
You mention Roth as the best VH singer (agreed) but use song lyrics from Hagar?? I find your tactics confusing, yet wonderful at the same time…
they like to make you think
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Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
speaking of making us think...
Hannies?
soon?
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Feb 4, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
probably get it up this weekend for the vote
but the nominations will be thin if people dont get to submitting soon, got a hand full or so
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Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Okay.
Would you like us to call you Dani or Danielle from now on? ;-)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
I refuse to give up
on a season before pitchers and catchers even report, if we fall out of the race we can look at options, but going in I see no reason not to think the season is worth playing
13- Warner, 23- Sandberg, 40- Tillman, 11- Walter
hee! put it on macro, Al :-)
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
Jesus Christ???
Jesus Christ blessed us with intelligence, strapping good looks, and the intestinal fortitude to never give up.
Please speak for yourself dude.
Maybe you wanted to (or did) post this on your church’s website, instead?
i am seeing a theme
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Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
You don't say.
Repeat yourself often? ;-)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Here, I'll fix it for you.
Jesus ChristTed Lilly blessed us with intelligence, strapping good looks, and the intestinal fortitude to never give up
by Pat19 on Feb 4, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What the heck is wrong with you people? We are drop dead serious about this...and we're not even kidding.
Chester Cheetah is a fictional anthropomorphic cheetah and the official mascot for Cheetos brand snacks and Chester's Puffcorn. He is distinctive for his lanky body, large sunglasses, tennis shoes, and smooth persona.
why do these
cub fans out there already assume we cant win before the season even starts. i can see if we had a crap team but there is alot of talent here. it all comes down to the players doing their job.
I'm enjoying all these "seriousness" comments.
Don’t get me wrong, we’re not going to be very good in 2011, and Zambrano is a valuable trade chip.
A bit chippy around here or is it just me?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I don't think it's just you.
I get the feeling Z is a really sensitive subject after all the off-field issues he’s had over the past few years, especially that tirade in the dugout in June last year.
My feeling is that people will calm down about him after he goes away from the Cubs for a while.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I don't get you wrong. I just don't get you. But you do complete me.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Wait.
You actually took this post seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
it lacked wizards and magic
Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Don't even ask. This groundskeeper scored a "T" on his Care of Magical Creatures OWL:
Probably because he didn’t follow this one simple rule:
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
i saw this and laughed hard, and no it is not meant to be a jab at anyone, just a funny cat pic
Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Which made me laugh hardest?
Okay, it was either the picture of “intelligence, strapping good looks” or the link to Ivy Walls’ profile. Somehow, I never pictured IW as a financial wizard, but maybe that’s because I don’t see enough of his posts.
Still, though, this is awesome, awesome stuff. Well done, both of you! Or should I say, the one of you.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 4, 2011 11:27 PM CST reply actions
i demand more of this
Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Damn! How do we keep missing out on the Sidd Finch derby? We have to sign this
guy right now. Whatever it takes, Jim. Let’s git ’er done!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Feb 5, 2011 8:41 AM CST reply actions
Poor Carlos. He's Just A Gigolo
and nobody cares for him………
There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.
I like to think that Jim Hendry was checking out BCB while drinking his morning coffee. Then he saw this post, looked at his watch, and yelled “SHIT!” before picking up the phone and calling the Yankees.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
And then I also laughed at this.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
You forget this post caused him to spit out said coffee.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
GREEN BAY PACKERS, 2010 NFC CHAMPIONS!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Feb 5, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
I *did* forget that.
That’s awesome.
Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.
So this post wants the cubs to trade Z for David lee Roth?
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Feb 5, 2011 3:22 PM CST reply actions
That depends....
do Van Halen and the Yankees take on his whole salary?
Come on Lisa, I'm trying to impress people here. You don't win friends with salad. ~ Homer J. Simpson
by TheBeerBaron on Feb 6, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
does he wear the tight pants or traditional Cubs pants?
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Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
I'm interested in what they say in the Cubs Anal
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That Harper video is insane.
That swing was built to crush the ball.
Ideal
Trade him to the Orioles for Brian Roberts who we can send to the White Sox for Jake Peavy.
For Cub fans spring training combines the eternal hope of spring with the irrational belief in the impossible.
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
It will be worth all that waiting for the team most winning
Cubs baseball is a 130 year old story. Of great teams and bad teams and everything in between. Of the long time stars and one game fill ins and everyone in between.. Of late inning rallies and late inning defeats and everything in between. It's a belief and hope of millions of fans across the world that on one glorious October night we will finally win it all.
Maybe a new towel drill for the 2009 Cubs should have been implemented
It would have been based on then current events and maybe, just maybe, the rotation would have gotten better.
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
Since that was Jamie Moyer throwing him
I doubt little Fluffy got hurt.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Feb 7, 2011 8:02 AM CST up reply actions
The Cubs are winning the Central this year
so the entire premise of this post is moot.
by californiachicagoan on Feb 7, 2011 2:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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