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The NFL has now made the folllowing offer:

1) $2,400 cash payment (3 times the ticket value) and a transferable ticket to Super Bowl XLVI (meaning you can sell it or give it away)

OR

2) A non-transferrable ticket to ANY future Super Bowl, with plane fare and hotel accomodations paid.

So, you basically can take the cash and roll the dice on whether you will want to see the game in Indy. On the one hand, it's fairly easy driving distance for anyone from Wisconsin or PIttsburgh, so your other expenses aren't as great, but on the other hand, it's bleeping Indiana No Place.

Or, you basically pay in 2011 to see a Super Bowl mostly expense-free in the future.

Meanwhile, there are tons or horror stories coming out about the "great treatment" the NFL supposedly provided these fans.

I'm getting a little sick of the media poo-poohing this as well. Guys like Kornheiser and Wilbon are basically telling the fans to stop whining. I'm tired of sportswriters who don't have to pay a damn thing to see a game telling off fans. They have no clue.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/02/09/super-bowl-nfl-seatgate-controversy/

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The second offer is a pretty good one...

… presuming you can wait until you know if your team is in the Super Bowl before you accept the “future Super Bowl” offer. That way, you can go see your own team rather than pick some random Super Bowl. I’d also make sure the NFL’s flight and hotel offer would be top-notch before I accepted it.

In some cases, the first offer might not cover all the expenses, and then you’re left with a bad taste AND no future event, because you might not want to go to next year’s.

If it were me, I’d take the second offer.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2011 9:40 AM CST reply actions  

I'm leaning that way too

I like the future one because you can choose the city as well. I could stomach a — for instance — Patriots-Vikings Super Bowl XLVII because the game is in New Orleans, which I’ve always wanted to visit.

The thing with option 1 is that you have the right to sell off the ticket. So, you might make back your money that way.

And I am reading some stories that there are quite a few fans who did pay face value for these tickets. Apparently, these were the tickets sold to people who won a drawing for the right to purchase tickets at face value. So, the $2,400 might come closer than you think for a lot of people.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Feb 9, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe...

… although I did hear stories of people who paid $5000 for their trip. Yes, you could make the rest of the $ back by selling the ticket(s), but you have to wait a year for that.

You have to wait at least a year for the other option, also, but at least you get a free trip out of the deal, with possibly better accomodations than you had, and maybe even a better seat at the game.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 9, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes!

That’s why I still keep an old Blackjack strategy card in my wallet

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Feb 9, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you see where their seats were?

The NFL is definitely making good on the mistake. These people don’t have a lot of room to complain at this point.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Feb 9, 2011 1:06 PM CST reply actions  

When you pay for a seat, you expect a seat

This is fraud.

The lawsuit has more to do with Cowboys season ticket holders being promised good seats and ending up on folding chairs.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Feb 9, 2011 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

Be that as it may.

My greater point above, which I still believe, is that the NFL is putting forth good effort to make up for the mistake. In the end, they’ll get sued and settle out of court for a lot more. But that has more to do with the society we live in these days.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Feb 9, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely

The society that says that the NFL wouldn’t have had this problem if it wasn’t trying to squeeze another $1 million out of the Super Bowl — 1,250 seats at $800 each.

It was greed that started this. Forgive me if I don’t care if the fans take the high road.

And everything we’ve seen is that the NFL totally screwed the pooch. They knew there was a problem and didn’t have any kind of contingency. The first letter the fans received wasn’t on any letterhead. No ticket-taker or bartender knew anything about free stuff and most fans say they didn’t so much as receive a free soda.

My guess is that they were wishing the problem away and hoping for no-shows.

Multiple people need to lose their jobs over this.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Feb 9, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

MY SEAT IS MY SEAT!

MY NAME IS MY NAME!

WORF: GO WATCH MORE WIRE

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Feb 9, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

When I read your reply

I cant help buy have it said in Stringer Bell’s voice.

by BadDecisions on Feb 9, 2011 2:38 PM CST reply actions  

I'm almost done with Season 4

Enjoying it quite a bit. Liking the parallels with the kids and the older characters.

Not as good as Season 3, but the worst Wire episode is pretty much better than anything else.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Feb 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Jimmy McNulty & Bunk Moreland are legendary.

It matters naut that they aren’t real characters; they are, quite simply, two of the greatest men ever.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Feb 9, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Season 5 wraps up season 4 better than the s4 finale does, methinks.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Feb 9, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Those are some sweet reimbursement options

No one should be bitching about either of those deals.

by bluemagic9 on Feb 9, 2011 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

This isn't mutually exclusive.

The fans have a good reason to bitch about losing their seats. However, the NFL is doing a good job of making up for it. You can have it both ways.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Feb 9, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

What a joke.

Forget the money for a second… if I got all hyped up about seeing my team in the Super Bowl, flew out to Dallas, and then was denied admission… I would lose my mind. How many chances do you get to see your team win the Super Bowl in person?

The NFL, Cowboys, and Jones are all getting sued… as they should be. I’m completely against frivolous lawsuits – but this one is totally justified. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

by Schwa on Feb 10, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

However...

… they have made an offer which could give you a second chance to see your team in the Super Bowl at their expense. I think I’d take them up on that one.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 10, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd join up in the class action suit.

But between the two choices, the second one clearly makes more sense.

Just a messy situation, and the fact that the NFL knew this was a possibility a week beforehand doesn’t help their case.

by Schwa on Feb 10, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

3x face should pay for the entire botched trip by itself

And you still get a ticket to next year’s SB which you could sell for another 3x face.

And people are still suing? lol, wow.

by bluemagic9 on Feb 10, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

...
lol, wow.

Funny, that was my EXACT reaction when you said Garza was worth way more than 4-5 wins. Still waiting for an explanation on that one.

PS – Most people easily spent more than $2,400 on the ticket, airfare, hotel, rental car, food, drink and merch. Keep trying though, it’s admirable.

by Schwa on Feb 10, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Go giggle at some more lightning.

I was just pissed that day and have already forgotten about all those discussions. Funny that you’re still obsessed with it.

by bluemagic9 on Feb 11, 2011 3:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Trust me, if there was more snow lightning, I'd be giggling non-stop.

I’d forget discussions too if I were laughing off other people’s opinions while spouting my own BS. And then disappearing when called out on it.

Keep on keepin’ on.

by Schwa on Feb 11, 2011 8:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Not a lawyer

I have read every Grisham and Turow novel so I have a take

At some point, lawsuits aren’t just about getting back the loss. At some point, it’s punishing the big corporation.

This came about because the NFL was wanting to make another $320,000 on tickets ($800 face times 400 seats). This also came about because the NFL was woefully unprepared.

It has come out that the NFL knew about this at least a week and maybe as much as three weeks in advance. They knew the seats were behind schedule and that they hadn’t been inspected.

I get not announcing it. That just starts a mess and you might have been able to get the seats in (and you might have gotten a few no-shows.) In other words, the NFL didn’t know just how big a problem it had.

My beef is that there appeared to be no contingency plan. The ticket-takers were sending people to the wrong areas. No high-ranking NFL official was there. The bartenders didn’t have a clue about this supposed free food and drink. The first refund letter wasn’t even on NFL letterhead, which made people skeptical as to what was happening. The merchandise was a T-shirt.

The NFL is spinning it like these people got to watch the game from a luxury box with shrimp and caviar and Johnny Walker Blue and got signed footballs from Aaron Rodgers.

There should have been a designated area, catering already set up, a formal letter already prepared and vouchers for two free drinks (I get not wanting to let the booze flow for people already good and pissed off)

And if the seats miraculously got done and approved in time, then you trash the letter and the vouchers, send the food somewhere else and breathe a sigh of relief.

None of that. THAT is my biggest beef with the NFL. It f—-d up and knew it was f—-ing up and didn’t have a f—-ing f—-d up plan how to f——ing fix it.

So they should f——ing pay.

Just to make sure they don’t pull this same stunt in Indy next year.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Feb 10, 2011 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

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