Cubs 2, Indians 1: A Glimpse Into The Future
MESA, Arizona -- With two out in the bottom of the ninth of today’s Cubs game, Brett Jackson stood at the plate after a pair of his teammates had failed to get the winning run home from second base.
Jackson calmly slashed a line drive down the left field line; the throw was late and the Cubs had a 2-1 win over the Indians.
This is the kind of scene we hope to see many, many times at Wrigley Field starting perhaps as soon as next year – Jackson driving in the winning run, his teammates surrounding him after he touches first base. Jackson didn’t start today’s game; he came in to replace Lou Montanez in the seventh inning, and he’s likely going to be one of the first roster cuts, because he’s expected to start the year at Iowa. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Chicago sometime this summer, and almost certainly as a September callup.
Before the game, the Ricketts family and several of Ron Santo’s best baseball friends, Billy Williams, Fergie Jenkins and Randy Hundley, and Santo’s family, had a touching ceremony at home plate to honor Ron. Hundley was hilarious but the best moment went to Ron’s son Jeff, director of "This Old Cub". Jeff Santo asked the current Cubs to remember Ron and win the World Series in his memory. At that moment I looked into the Cubs dugout, where the entire team was standing at the rail – many applauded.
This may not be the team that does that, and surely none of us is predicting that. But you could tell they want to, and today’s game, though the result didn’t have much meaning, was at least a nice comeback after five perfect innings were thrown by Cleveland pitchers.
Go figure, right? Koyie Hill reaches base for the first time all spring with a walk to break it up, and then gets caught stealing on a missed sacrifice by Andrew Cashner (who, I saw later, I tweeted as "Cashmere" – damn autocorrect!). Cashner then broke up the no-hitter with a single, and he also threw four good innings; his only mistake was Jayson Nix’s long home run, the Tribe’s only run.
Randy Wells also threw four solid innings, and Kerry Wood gave up a single but then struck out the side in his inning, with a fastball you could hear pop on the LF berm, and the last out on a knee-buckling breaking ball.
It was nearly 90 degrees by the end of the game, and today’s crowd of 7,186 was again far below what has been the norm for Cubs Cactus League games. This being my first visit to HoHoKam Park this year, I checked out the food prices (up about 50 cents to $1 on most items) and souvenirs – still way overpriced. T-shirts $30, most caps $35. Seriously – don’t the vendors understand there is a recession on and that may be why attendance is down? Today, they gave away a blue cap with "10" on it in honor of Santo to everyone in the park; it was the same cap worn by the players today to remember Ron. These caps must have originally been designed for sale, as they still had a price sticker on the underside of the bill -- $21.99. They’re among the nicest giveaway items I’ve ever seen at a baseball game. More on attendance: 4,748 saw the Angels and Mariners at Peoria; 3,806 witnessed the Rockies and Brewers at Maryvale; the Royals and Angels drew 3,146 at Tempe; the Padres and Dodgers played in front of 3,858 at Glendale; and the Giants and Reds drew 4,087 at Goodyear. All of these figures are way below what they've been in past years -- and the weather was gorgeous today.
Nice to see a couple of BCBers and I had a long conversation about various Cubs topics with BCBer "Employee22". (No, we didn't discuss Mark Prior.)
Just to complete an enjoyable afternoon – and a fast game, 2:20 – in the bottom of the eighth inning the infield sprinklers came on for a minute or so before the grounds crew managed to turn them off. Right after that, the Cubs tied the game 1-1 on a wild pitch and an error.
Tomorrow, the Cubs face the White Sox at Glendale in a game that will be televised locally on CSN Chicago – note, you may want to turn the sound off as it’s the Sox announcers – and will also be picked up by the MLB Network for national telecast. Ryan Dempster takes the mound to face the Sox' Mark Buehrle.
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I heard
MLB did not allow the 10 cap to be used during the game for lack of an MLB logo.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Thanks for the update.
I couldn’t tell — the caps are the same color as the regular Cubs cap.
And seriously, that’s dumb. Plenty of teams have used caps to honor various people — and this is a spring training game that wasn’t even televised.
Some of the decisions made by MLB are mind-numbingly stupid.
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So stupid
You can pick a DH or now, you can end in a tie and other things in ST but a hat honoring an old friend of the Commissioner himself is goofy.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with....
…MLB’s contract with New Era. There’s probably something in the contract that says official caps will be worn in all games.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
Could be
No doubt there are rules. I wonder what stink would have been made if this were not a meaningless game.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I have one of the caps.
It’s a New Era cap. It has a New Era logo on it. So New Era can’t complain, right?
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The caps worn on the field...
…actually don’t have a New Era logo on them. The New Era flag logo is embroidered on caps that aren’t worn on the field of play. You’d think they wouldn’t mind.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
I think ur right.
I seem to remember hearing that MLB forced the Mets to re-design their jersey patch celebrating Citi Field’s inaugural season because it advertised Citi Bank too much. I’m pretty sure they forbid all advertising on any part of a uniform. I could see that changing some day though.
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
I'll give you $23.00 for the hat Al..
paying well over actual value of the hat…let me know! you pay for shipping.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Thanks for the offer.
But I like this cap. I think I’ll keep it.
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figured as much...
i usually hate the crap they give out, worthless hats that are only good for sitting on a kids shelf.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Some of the giveaway caps are OK...
… but you’re right, in general they’re pretty low quality.
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OT: I need help picking a jersey!
I’m sry these pictures are incredibly huge, I’m kind of a rookie in posting photos…

or

Ernie Banks.
Andre Dawson is great, but Ernie is Mr. Cub.
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Banks
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
I would be for Dawson but I can't stand the number 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why could he have not picked another number!!!!!!!!!!!!
My favorite player of all time and he picks my hated number!!!!!!
I do not know...
When I was a kid it seemed like the number on all the fat slow kids…
Then it seemed like every big slow backup catcher I saw on TV had number 8.
Though I am sure there are many many examples otherwise.
Plus I think it is ugly. So I have an irrational hatred of the number 8. When my kids get their uniforms for the different teams they are on, I hold my breath when the shirts are passed out.
I know…totally weird!!!!!!
LOL
That is kind of irrational. But at least you explained it.
Hope you don’t hold it against Mike Quade!
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Thought maybe you were a figure skater
and had trouble doing your compulsory figures. Or that you couldn’t stand the thought of infinity.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
What also sucks is that it is very rare that the Cubs have had a great number 11....
That has been my number since I was 9 years old.
Thus the name TJ11…..
I soooooo wanted Nomar to take that number!
If I ever meet you....
I’m going to give you a piggie-back ride into the sunset.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
I would have guessed you liked 11
because it looked the most like exclamation points!!
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
8's my favorite number.
Forget you, TJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
See, that would have been better with exactly eight exclamation points.
:-)
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Forget you, TJ!!!!!!!!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
I would go with one that said "THE HAWK"
But Dawson vs Banks I have to side with Banks.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Mar 10, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Ernie Banks.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
no doubt
although a #10 would be pretty cool too.
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
by VegasCubFan on Mar 10, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed, VCF.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions
Cool jerseys
"I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die." - Anonymous
It's a win/win situation.
Either one is nice. However, I think Andre Dawson would be more appropriate because of the logo.

Whereas with Ernie I think of this one.

♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
I gotta say
Not that I know all the posters’ names here, but Al meets a lot of BCBers I never heard of.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Well, remember me BeerCub.
I’m driving out this month and I plan on saying hi to Al.
BTW, where do you sit in ST, Al?
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
Under the scoreboard in LF
on the grass.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 10, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
Find me right under the clock on the scoreboard. Anyone out here in AZ for games, please stop by and say hi.
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besides wrigley games..
are you going to fenway Al? cause I sure as hell am. whichever jersey i choose, the first time i will wear it will be opening day, the second time will be the sunday game of the red sox game.
Yes.
I won that Fenway email lottery and got tickets that day, last month. Vermont Cubs Fan is in charge of trying to organize a meetup in Boston. We’ll keep you posted.
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I get in next Wednesday
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
One or two more good outings from Wells
and the 4th spot is a lock for him. It was nice to see Cashner pitch well after his last outing.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
So, Jackson is a LF, right?
We have that long-term individual out there. Is Jackson able to play other OF positions?
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 10, 2011 7:49 PM CST reply actions
He's a centerfielder as of now.
He may eventually have to move to a corner down the road, but I believe he’s pretty solid in center right now.
Hats
We were at the game today, did not get a hat or hear anything about it until I read about it here on BCB. Did see alot ot the fans wearing nice #10 decals in honor of Ron. Wells did look very good today. Offense stinks, even Colvin, who tore it up last year in Spring Training looks sluggish.
Jersey
The Banks Jersey looks great. Nice to see a number of fans at the park wearing the Mr. Cub Jersey.
This game recap
has to have one of the most odd pairings of headline and photo.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Is it just me...
Or does Ramirez look huge in that picture?
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 10, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
He does.
I used that photo because there weren’t any available from today’s game and that was the most interesting one I could find from Wednesday’s.
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Where is Grabow?
Folks at ST, Has anyone had a John Grabow sighting? I have not read anything about him being sick or injured, but I noticed that he only has 1 (not so good) appearance so far this spring. I think it was in the 1st or 2nd game. I think that’s curious since Wood, Marmol and Marshall have all made 4 appearances already.
Yeah,
i was wondering about that myself.
Plus, Scott Maine and Thomas Diamond were supposed to throw today, but didn’t. That may not bode well for their chances of making the roster.
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Maine and Diamond
I just thought that the Cubs were trying to stretch out Cashner in case he is the 5th starter. I think Maine has a realistic chance of making the team out of ST if Russell continues to struggle and Grabow continues to be invisible. Diamond hasn’t shown much in ST and he didn’t show much last season outside of his 1st start against the Brewers. I can see the Cubs releasing Diamond. I would much rather have a prospect starting at Iowa than Diamond.
I agree re: stretching Cashner out, although..
…. I was still kind of surprised he batted in the eighth inning.
Agreed re: Diamond.
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Grabow is supposedly injured
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 10, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
I believe he now has tightness in his shoulder.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts the season on the DL.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 11, 2011 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
That means the Cubs probably look to James Russell for that slot.
And Russell has had a rough spring.
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Lou Montanez
How much more time are were going to waste with this guy? We need to play kids who can help the team now or in the future.
LMAO
Especially because in 2016, Montanez will be 35.
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LOL.
I once texted to Al that I was trying to meet “ballhawk”, meaning our ballhawk Ken. My iPhone auto-corrected it to “Balkhash.” No joke.
The one that makes me pull my hair out is when I accidentally put in “thr”. You’d think my phone would correct those to “the”, which is what I mean when I put “thr” in, but it always makes them into “Thr”, simply capitalizing the T instead of switching out the r.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
clearly it thinks you are trying to type an abbreviation of one of the following:
THR/Thr can mean one of the following:
Tim Harvey, Tim Harvey Racing – the business of racing driver Tim Harvey
Threonine, one of the 20 standard amino acids
Time Highway Radio, the former name of THR.FM, a private radio station in Malaysia
Target Heart Rate
Mehrabad Airport, Tehran, Iran
Total Hip Replacement operation
Through Hole Reflow (or “pin and paste” or “paste in hole”): process of mounting through hole electronic components using the reflow process
The Hollywood Reporter, a trade publication of the U.S. entertainment industry
Tony Hawk: Ride, a skateboarding video game.
Team Columbia Highroad, the UCI code for the professional road bicycle racing team
Total Heat of Rejection, a measure of the heat rejected in tons of refrigeration by a compressor or condenser
So I am guessing your sentance (god I cant spell anymore) would read:
Total Heat of Rejection Cubs are going to have a great season with Through Hole Reflow backup catcher we have!
Koyie "the Walker" Hill got caught stealing
because he was so confused as to what to do no the bases, he hadn’t been there all ST and simply had not idea what was going on.
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
It just kills me that Theriot is ::still:: on the team
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
TJ11
Numerologist Glynis McCants debunks the myth that #7 is the lucky number. She says if you carry the #8 somewhere in your wallet, it can bring you good luck and prosperity.
Heyman recognizes the great spring training the Cubbies are having.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Not to go all Sheriff Len ...
but I don’t think there’s THAT much to see here. Silva will continue to be an issue — until he’s waived, permanently DL’d or relegated to David Patton duties. The Heyman piece essentially equates the Silva dust up with the Cardinals losing their best pitcher and potentially losing the best player in baseball. I’ll say this — St. Louis is having a much worse spring than we are.
Agreed.
Heyman was in camp right after the Silva dustup — he was tweeting about it. That was more than a week ago, so him writing that the Cubs are having a “bad camp” is old news, at best.
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I'll feel a lot better about the state of things ...
when Garza and Pena start doing better. To me, that’s the big storyline of the spring so far. If those two guys don’t have good years, the Cubs aren’t going anywhere, IMO.
Good thing we got Garza.
/s
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About attendance....
How do the attendance numbers compare to the Grapefruit League numbers? I really thin the “Arizona boycott” due to last April’s immigration law may be having impact on the attendance numbers.
I don't know about Florida spring attendance.
Anyone know?
(And please, do not turn this thread political. If that happens I’ll have to close comments.)
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Here are yesterday's numbers
I’m not sure if this proves anything, but attendance for the nine Grapefruit games totaled 51,948 while the nine Cactus games totaled 44,315.
Yankees-Phillies and White Sox-D’Backs were the only ones that exceeded 10,000 in attendance. Other than CHW-AZ, the Cubs were the only ones in the Cactus League that drew more than 7,000. The Grapefruit League had 3 games over 7,000 (BOS-TB: 7,332; TOR-MIN: 7,880; STL-ATL: 7,198).
One Grapefruit game (NYM-WAS) only drew 2,465, the lowest overall. The Cactus League’s lowest was 2,586 (KC-OAK).
Seems in general like Florida games are drawing a little better than AZ.
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I think it is simply the economy.
Gas prices are up and the cost of living is rising faster than inflation. Combine all that together and some people are choosing to spend their money in other ways.
The real interesting part will be when the regular season starts and what attendance will be then.
I think the average fan is getting burned out on $5 hot dogs and $8 cokes and over-priced tickets.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Mar 11, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
This appears to be the case.
Although, gas prices have only really gone way up in the last month or so. If you were planning to go to spring training, would that have made you cancel your trip?
I do think the burnout on high prices in general is having an impact.
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i definitely would have 2nd thoughts
The high gas prices are really affecting everybody. I live 200 miles from my girlfriend and its really affecting when we can see each other. Having to shell out over $100 just in gas now really impacts our budgets. So in baseball terms I can see where a lot of trips got canceled or otherwise modified because if this. At least driving…flying is different because you can purchase your tickets well in advance. I think this combined with the already high prices for tickets food and merchandise are going to have a significant effect on attendance this year.
by nmcubsfan on Mar 11, 2011 11:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like the bcb logo with the flowers/cactus.
It made me happy like seeing the first few robins around here the other day.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
I heard a new birdsong this morning
They are coming back! I can’t begin to tell you how much I am anticipating my backyard flock of warblers…
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
Our new 2011 Cubs winning strategy: distract 'em and soak 'em. Works for me.
in the bottom of the eighth inning the infield sprinklers came on for a minute or so before the grounds crew managed to turn them off. Right after that, the Cubs tied the game 1-1 on a wild pitch and an error.
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
So, is anybody else thinking that ...
maybe, the Cubs should trade Silva to the Mets for Oliver Perez, and cash?
I was against it until I saw that Grabow is hurting. Combine that with the fact that Russell has been terrible, and the Cubs might need another lefty in the pen. And if Cashner isn’t ready to start, Perez is an option to be the fifth starter.
I’m not sold on this idea myself (Perez has been terrible for two years). But I see it as about the only way the Cubs could move Silva and get anything in return.
Bad contract for bad contract?
It might work.
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The Mets would have to throw in some cash.
But, yeah. Why not? Perez is still (amazingly) only 29.
See above.
The biggest thing is that Perez is left handed. The Cubs have no left handed starters, and (with Grabow hurt and Russell struggling) they could probably use a lefty specialist.
If Perez were right handed, it wouldn’t even be worth mentioning.
True enough
I think i’d rather see Russell some more this spring. He was decent enough last year and i see no reason he couldn’t stay consistent, or hopefully improve a bit in the bullpen.
The other thing is ...
the Mets are downright desperate to dump Perez. I know he’s not very good, but MAYBE the Mets would be willing to send a little extra cash the Cubs’ way — like, more than the amount necessary to cover the difference in the two guys’ salaries.
The question, really, is whether the Mets view Silva as someone worth a shot in the rotation, and whether they need somebody at the back end of their rotation. The reason Perez is really useless for them is that they already have a lefty specialist (Tim Byrdak). So if he’s not good enough to start …
I’m not really sold on Russell. I’ve been wondering if we’re all looking at his 2010 as better than it actually was because he was the only member of the daycare bullpen (from last April) who wasn’t flat terrible or injured.
OTOH, if the Cubs want Russell to start down the road, there’s some logic in having him start the season in Iowa.
Call me weird
Call me weird but if we’re not a playoff team anyway I’d rather watch a team win 72-75 games with some kids showing promise and see aglimpse into the future by the end of the season than an 80 win team with no future.
I’m I’m not the only one who found 2010 less painful than it otherwise would have been because of Castro, Colvin and Cashner.
Nothing happens unless it's first a dream
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