Chicago Cubs vs. Los Angeles Angels Preview, Monday 3/21, 3:05 CT: Rain Threatens
by Al Yellon on Mar 21, 2011 1:05 PM CDT
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PrintSCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- It's cloudy and windy this morning in the Phoenix area and the weather forecast for today's game doesn't look good:
Today: Showers, mainly after 11am. High near 65. Windy, with a west southwest wind 22 to 25 mph decreasing to between 14 and 17 mph. Winds could gust as high as 38 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.
If there's a cancellation, this thread will turn into Rainout Theater; I probably won't bother with the overflow thread in that case.
So this afternoon, weather permitting, Andrew Cashner will start against the Angels in Tempe. Justin Berg, Jeff Samardzija, Scott Maine and Jeff Stevens are on the list to throw in the Tempe game. Jered Weaver was supposed to start for the Angels, but this Victor Rojas tweet indicates Weaver threw in a minor league game this morning, so I have no idea who's actually going to start, if this game is even played. Other Angels scheduled to pitch this afternoon are Kevin Jepsen, (the other) Francisco Rodriguez and Jason Bulger. Kerry Wood and James Russell will be throwing this afternoon in minor league games at Fitch Park. Complete lineups after the jump.
Cubs lineup:
RF Fukudome
SS Castro
CF Byrd
1B Pena
C Soto
LF Soriano
3B Baker
2B Barney
P Cashner
Aramis Ramirez was supposed to be in the lineup today, but he's still home sick. Also, more playing time for Darwin Barney. Could it be.... ?
Angels lineup:
Aybar SS
Kendrick 2B
Abreu DH
Hunter RF
Wells LF
Callaspo 3B
Trumbo 1B
Mathis C
Bourjos CF
Here's all the media information for today.
MLB.com Gameday for today's game
Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today. Today's game will be televised on the MLB Network and will be on MLB.com with Len Kasper and Mick Gillispie.
Please visit our SB Nation Angels site Halos Heaven..
There will be an overflow thread posting at 4:30 p.m. CDT (this time, I won't forget, like I did yesterday; but it will only post if the game is actually being played). As usual, the overflow thread will NOT post on the front page but will be in the "Recent Stories In Game Threads" box on the right sidebar. If you need an extra overflow thread beyond that one, post it in the FanShot section.
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I like this lineup, it would clearly be better within a ram in it
But it seems to be constructed with some thought. I love seeing Darwin Barney playing. I went to college at osu when he was on the team. He’s a winner, and won’t just go threw the motions. He’s got jeter like instincts on the field. 100% baseball 0% bullshit.
Be thankful it's only rain.
We’re getting more snow here, forecast 3-5 inches. Someone please either kill me or warp me to late April.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions
67 in Peoria...
with storms on the way.
"I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die." - Anonymous
Seriously,
I live in portland, and it seems likenits been raining for two months straight. Please one day of sunshine, and a cubs win!
Love this lineup.
Here’s hoping that Baker roughs up some right-handers today. It would make things a lot simpler.
Same goes for you, Darwin!
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Oh, it's going to rain...
It is just a question of when and how much. We live 60 miles east of LA and all day long the news was talking about the storm and how bad it was and how much rain LA was getting. Meanwhile, we hadn’t gotten a drop until about 6:30 p.m. when the heavens opened up for about eight straight hours.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
As of 11:50 AM local time
Gusty with no rain, about 15 miles from HHK.
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I'd like to see Pena in the 4 spot more
I seem to remember reading last year Rammy actually prefers the 5 spot. I know that it wont happen, but hey, its a thought. I just dont understand why Fukudome is still considered the starting RF and why Dewitt is still considered for being on the team. Send Dewitt to Iowa, he’s struggled far too much to help tthis team right now, and Colvin continues to hit, yet Fukudome will continue to play. I won’t mention that one back up catcher.
Fukudome is starting
because he’s our best leadoff option against RHPs. Even with a low BABIP and consequently low average, his OBP is a healthy .362 this spring. He also plays a very solid RF defensively. For the last time, Fukudome isn’t a terrible player. He just has a terrible contract.
And if the Fukudome hate is more of a symptom of Colvin love; fear not. Colvin will get plenty of ABs this season. I think Soriano/Byrd/Pena are going to be getting quite a few days off.
by RynoRooter on Mar 21, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's on WGN Radio
Pat Hughes and Zonk are doing the game today on 720.
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that's no help to me my radio isn't working
MLB @ bat is on bf’s IPhone that is at work with him
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Fukudome leadoff and Byrd batting third are things the Pirates usually have to resort to......
122 wins sounds about right!!!
Of all the things to be sarcastic about
This is far from the biggest issue of the spring.
mabye's he getting bored
What else can one say about SIlva and Hill.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he could always start on DeWitt...
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Colvin is part of the future, Fukudome is not
to me I think either Baker or Barney has won the 2B spot, and if its Baker and you plan on leading him off against lefties, might as well do it against righties. Castro, Cashner, Barney (perhaps), and Colvin, these are the guys that are going to be the future. Colvin needs at bats. Fukudome can be the 4th outfielder. Enough of this “hes our best option at lead off” you lead off one time a game, its an overrated spot in my opinion.
True
He does only leadoff one time a game. But he hits in front of the run producers 4-5 times a game. It is common sense to try and put as many players on base in front of them as possible. Likewise, the 8-9 spots aren’t going to produce many baserunners, so putting a run producer there is essentially a waste of his power.
Whoops
Should have read “so putting a run producer in the leadoff spot is essentially…”
I'm not saying bat Colvin 1
I believe he should be 6/7 right now, and gain experience and learn with the other young guys that are the future of this team. The next few years are goign to be built around castor, cashner, colvin, b jackson, and potentially vitters. not Fukudome. but I view Baker, if he gets the everday job which i believe he should (along with Barney getting at bats) should be the guy. I’m just not in love with kosuke at the lead off spot. Though i suppose i’ll get used to it.
Baker
should start every game against LHPs and is a decent leadoff option then. I agree with you. But if it’s against RHPs, neither hit as well as Fukudome, unfortunately. Of course, the new and improved Barney might be able to show something. Baker, however, has proven that he is worthless against RHPs.
Slingbox, you're cool.
Too bad this is in rain delay. Who’s gonna start posting gifs?
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
So...is the game going to start on time?
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Define "game"
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
just saw Castro
tap the catcher on the shin pad, and I remember a fight breaking out last year (or so) because of that…is that a new thing to do with batters catchers? i havent seen it that much, but also havent paid that much attention…
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Yup, I was watching the Angels broadcast but
I’d much rather listen to Pat and Keith. There should be an option to listen to the radio broadcast while watching the televised one (maybe there is and i’m missing it?).
by English Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
They were supposed to add that a couple of years ago.
It never worked though.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
There is if you live in Chicago:
There’s a thingamabob WGN used to sell, where you could sync the radio broadcast with the TV. It was like $45 so I never bought it.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
I see that the wind is blowing pretty hard
Which way is it blowing? Out? In?
Jeez
If Gameday is any indicator, it’s blowing out to RF. Pena destroyed that thing according to Gameday.
GOOOOONE!!!
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
PENA!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
that is a good sign.
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Anyone watching on MLB Network?
Was wondering if it’s still raining? Any people sitting on the berm?
Baseball is back!!
Im watching on MLB
and that Pena HR was a BOMB!
Yeah it was a thing of beauty.
One of those swings where his body language instantly tells you it’s waaaaaay gone :D
by English Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Question....
I dont see Soriano as Hall of Fame Caliber, but he’s made it to the All-star game 7 times… what’s the most amount of all star appearances without make the Hall?
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Don't know but.....
There used to be 2 all star games per year.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Pete Rose, obviously, with 17. But that doesn't count.
Santo made it 9 times. Tony Oliva was an AS 8 years in a row.
Barry Bonds with 14 will be an interesting test case. Ivan Rodriguez with 14 will probably get in.
Larkin and McGwire and Manny and Piazza had 12.
But for your argument, I think Bill Freehan with 11 is the guy who had the most AS appearances and will definitely not get in.
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Soriano distracted during a play, you say?!
I can’t believe that. It just doesn’t compute…
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Man Cash looks like Woody!
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Nobody's really look all that great, have they?
Guess that’s why the battle is for the 5th spot.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Cash threw 111 innings last year
He could probably get in 130-150 Innings
Bummer, it was an error.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB and Facebook
If anyone “Likes” MLB on Facebook, they’re streaming today’s game for free through Facebook. Easy way to watch/listen at the office today.
OOoo man Castro
Crushing that ball for a triple
I love how Pat described Castro as "hot footing to third".
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone know why the Angels have use 3 pinch runners in two inning?
Is the field in bad condition or something?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
Probably.
No sense in having any more of their regulars going down with injuries in a meaningless game. They already are without their best hitter to start the season.
I'm was just thinking that it might.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Off to a good
start today I see.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Just reading that the Cards have started
their plunkings early this year. Seems a little early but maybe they just like picking on the Nats. Kind of like picking on your little brother though.
Baseball is back!!
Good eye Geo.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
lol, no
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Well, he has pretty eyes, no?
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Most definitely
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
::perks up:: what's that about Geo's eyes?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
by Emelie on Mar 21, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did they call this one because of the rain?
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
Cashner was supposed to be the one.....
Who’ll be our 5th starter??
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
My guess is
it will still be Cashner. We just better have a good long relief guy available…
yes it is.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Get it together Cashner.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Double play!
Pitcher’s best friend!
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Fashion note:
visors look awful on just about everyone. Wear a hat like everyone else.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
especially 20 something Frat Boys.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
and not as a back up or platoon.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
It sure would be fun to watch
Starlin and Darwin the double play combo. Their names rhyme so of course they’re a match set!
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
heh
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
and you would occasionally get the
Starlin to Darwin to Colvin…ok we need a nickname…Starlin to Darwin to Carvin (for the way his camp is carvin up the muscles of our prospects)
If he could hit just a little bit better...
But I think he’ll end up putting the same numbers as DeWitt with less ABs.
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If you want to know the secret of being, you'll come with us
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Cash,Silva or Looper?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
I kind of wish we had Gorz back.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
CSNMooney
Castillo’s hit .706 and has “game-changing arm.” It’s either sit #Cubs bench or play in Iowa. Quade has “good feel” for what club should do.
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Like what Castillo has done
but the back up should be Max Ram. Let Castillo get his ABs in Iowa, if Soto goes down, then beef comes up and gets his shot. Unfortunately, i think we all know what that “good feel” is going to equate too…
Play everyday in Iowa
It should be between Max Ram and Hill, not Beef. But this has been debated about at length, and even with a slow day here, I don’t really want to rehash it.
Play in Iowa.
Bring up as primary catcher if/when Geo goes to the DL.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Fukudome's Spin might problems
might be attributed to the fact that he wears wrestling shoes to play baseball.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
The Cubs won?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
FLY IT!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
...
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
Don't post many comments here?
We usually post this guy’s picture after Cubs wins. I put this picture up yesterday after the Cubs beat the Giants, too.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Random.
I believe this was from when the Cubs won the NL Central in 2007, in Cincinnati.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Where
and when was this actually taken?
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
It's a Reuters (I think) photo.
Some of the old regulars started using it back in 2007. Few of those people are still around here.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
I think it's a sportsmaven photo, actually.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Love this.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I posted it yesterday,
Special for you. :)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
the dulcet tones of Judd doing the postgame
is music to my ears!
Didn't think this was fanpost worthy.
But at least someone has something about it finally!
Quade has his opinions on certain players. For example, catcher Welington Castillo has opened his eyes. Castillo was batting .706 this spring. That will get your attention. However, the Cubs have to determine whether Castillo and the organization are better served if he’s starting at Triple-A Iowa or backing up Geovany Soto on the big league team. Blake DeWitt, on the other hand, is hitting .163 and still has work to do at second base.
Quade said he’s already had some healthy disagreements with Hendry, Bush and others, and that’s OK.
“I’m not of the mentality that I have to win,” Quade said. “I’m not an ego guy. I want to do the right thing.”
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Troubling...
"I’m not of the mentality that I have to win," Quade said. "I’m not an ego guy. I want to do the right thing."
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
He needs to realize that having the mentality that he has to win is the right thing.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 21, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What does that even mean?
As a manager of a baseball club, isn’t winning “doing the right thing”?
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
Maybe it's that he realizes this squad isn't built to win...
and that he is to prepare it for the years down the road when it has more talent.
Whether or not it's built to win a pennant, I don't think he should be talking about how he doesn't have
To win in March. Give up when the season has started at least. Give it a month for gods sake.
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
To me, this is his way of saying he's going to allow the final decisions on things that they dissagree on to be settled by Hendry.
GULP
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're right.
I was giving him the benefit of the doubt up until this point… the jury’s still out but this is the biggest pause yet.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
Yep. If that's the case then it underlines what I've been afraid of for a while
Henry didn’t hire Quade because he thought he was the best candidate, he hired him because he knew Quade would be the easiest to control.
I never had much hope for this season, but if this IS true, it doesn’t give me much hope for the forseeable future either.
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
SWL
My thought was that he realizes he won’t get his way on some things. That he will be overruled.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're misreading that quote.
Of course the manager wants to “win”… if you’re talking about winning games.
The quote, to me, says Quade doesn’t necessarily have to “win the argument” with his other coaches and the GM.
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This may be fanshot worthy, but either way, it tells me that:
A). Castillo is going to AAA
B). Dewitt’s on the 25-man roster
C). Moore has the inside track for the roster..
Don’t be surprised with the 13 position players being
Soto, Hill, Soriano, Dome, Byrd, Colvin, Castro, Ramirez, Baker, Dewitt, Moore, Perez, and Pena.
by DisCUBbobulated on Mar 21, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Quade's ego allows him to stop that from happening...
so “the right thing” will be done.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll counter with this group:
Position Players: Soto, MRamirez, Soriano, Dome, Byrd, Colvin, Castro, ARam, Baker, Barney, Johnson, and Pena.
Starters: Dempster, Z, Garza, Wells, Cashner
Closer: Marmol
SU: Marshall and Wood
LR: Unfortunately Shark and Silva
MR: Russell
The other two MR spots are all that should be left for debate.
That roster won't happen
because there’s no back-up shortstop.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh hell...we let Theriot try to do it for over 3 years...
it’s it really that important?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Last year he played 111 games at shortstop
and two at second for Iowa. I think he will be fine as a backup shortstop.
I'm fine with Barney as the backup infielder.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I was at Goodyear today
Second row behind home plate – too bad it got rained out.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I think Quade was talking about
winning the disagreements with Hendry that he mentioned. He wants the right thing done no matter who gets his way.
That was my take on it.
I hope this is the case...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how I read the quote.
It wasn’t written very well. Made it sound like Quade doesn’t like to win games, which clearly is not true.
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That's not how I interpreted it....
see above.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I did see how you interpreted it.
I disagree. The statement was made in the context of arguments with the brass, not about winning ballgames. To me, it says Quade doesn’t “have to win”, i.e. the argument, as long as the right thing gets done.
For example, you & I know the “right thing” is to let Koyie Hill go. We don’t know which “side” people in Cubs mgmt. are taking on that (well, except for Hendry). As long as the “right thing” happens here, does it matter if Quade is right or wrong, or “wins”?
I’d say no.
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The question is....if Quade doesn't want Hill and "the brass" (Hendry) do....
does Quade still think he doesn’t have to win?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 21, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Now I'm confused, what does that mean?
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by cowsarecool220 on Mar 21, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically I believe SWL Is saying, will Quade cave in an argument that is so easy to win
Hill SHOULD not be on this team, if the brass is taking the opposite opinion, then it’s an argument Quade NEEDS to win.
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Damn SWL
We are almost on the same page.
Does he think he doesn’t have to win or realize that it’s battle he won’t win.
I don’t think Q means at all winning when it comes to on the field
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by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 21, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Really, you are all reading way too much into this.
Quade’s just saying he doesn’t have to “win” every argument about players.
So much angst over one statement. Amazing.
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The angst...
isn’t really about one statement or one player or one contract Al, (and I think you really actually know that) but you’ve taken such an optimistic view of this organization for so long that you can no longer allow yourself to face some of the stark realities of where some of the real underlying problems this team has had for so long come from. The people in the biggest decision making positions have been not only bad at their jobs, they’ve been allowed to pass the blame off on others working below them time after time.
We as fans see our GM appearing to have decided on a player (i.e.avoiding arbitration with a significant raise) after a horrid performance and now may be advocating the worst player in ST to be included on the active roster when the team heads off to start the season. The manager, whom our GM hand-picked, has publicly said he knows he won’t get to win all the arguments. You tell me how were supposed to take that. We sit in the stands, on our couches and office chairs year after year rooting for this team to win, and we’re rewarded with some of the most bizarre, backwards, dysfunctional decision making over and over again. Yes, not EVERY decision that has been made or will be made is/will be wrong, but there is a marked trend by this GM and Organization as a whole to eventually do the very opposite of the logical rational thing.
We’re pissed off because just as Hill is seemingly being rewarded in-spite of being an abject failure as a baseball player, we the fans sure feel like we’re being used/taken for granted/punished for supporting this team. The Koyie Hill contract this offseason is OUR $10 BLEACHER TICKET DISCOUNT OF DISRESPECT. Does that help you understand a bit better?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 22, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The manager, whom our GM hand-picked, has publicly said he knows he won’t get to win all the arguments. You tell me how were supposed to take that.
How you’re supposed to take the entire statement — which is that the manager actually HAD arguments with his GM — is that there is actually some discussion about some of the roster spots that some people here assumed were already sewn up because of the decisions the GM made.
Are all these decisions good? No, they are not. However, I believe the meetings going on this morning may actually result in some of the changes that we (all of us, including me) have advocated here.
If the Cubs do choose Koyie Hill over two players who have performed better, or don’t consider Scott Moore or Darwin Barney for 2B over someone who’s performed worse, I’ll be happy to criticize.
If the Cubs make the other decision, will you be as willing to admit that maybe thing are changing?
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Making this one decision correctly will not cause me to admit that things are changing, no.
After I see them continue a trend of good decision making, then I’ll be willing to admit that maybe things are changing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 22, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but again....
I’m not going to hold my breath for it. Their “good first steps” forward have typically been closely followed by a couple bad steps backward.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 22, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
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