Spring Training Trip Notes
We just got back from a 3/16 to 3/22 trip to Mesa. Some comments, etc.:
- Saw Dempster, Zambrano, Wells and Cashner pitch, plus a slew of relievers. Dempster and Wells looked fine, Zambrano not so much pitching-wise, but he IS in great physical shape. We saw Cashner in the rain abbreviated game and while he got hit a little, he was attacking hitters. Overall, the starting first four will likely be decent, but the relievers with the exception of Marmol, will be dicey, and that includes Wood. As for Silva, Quade doesn't seem willing to talk negatively about him to the press. However, Silva really didn't look good.
- Castro is turning into a stud. I lked what I saw at the plate from Soriano, Pena, Fukudome, Byrd, Soto, Scott Moore and Darwin Barney. I wish the Cubs could find their way clear to keep Moore on the roster. The Cubs will hit. Matter of fact, If they are to win games, there should be a lot of 7-5, 8-6 type ballgames.
-We kept an unusual schedule and weren't able to find time to meet up with Al. However, we did go to Fergie's charity game the night of the 16th. Got to meet Ernie Banks and talk a little with Randy Hundley and Ken Rudolph, Hundley's old back up. FWIW, they say they're glad people who would cut Koyie Hill didn't run their teams. In other words, he brings more to the table than any stat can measure, and he's worth more as a player to the team than being a coach.
-We went to Don and Charlie's on Friday the 18th and as we were leaving encountered Willie Mays in the lobby. He was there signing books, balls and photos for his foundation. We had no idea he was to be there. Banks and Mays the first three days we were there, not too shabby.
- We stayed at the Mesa Marriott, which has the old Harry and Steve's/Sluggo's/ now Diamond's located directly across the street. It's my 15th year going there, and the place was consistently busier than it has been in some time. We were there parts of all six nights. I meet up with the same people from Chicago around the same time each year. At least three of the nights, Greg Maddux was there with a buddy. Most people left him alone, which apparently is how he prefers it, but there were the occasional obnoxious drunk businessmen who would recognize him. Maddux spent hours there last night (Monday the 21st). He did not drink at any time that I could see, but was just talking with his friend, whoever he was. We also saw Moreland and Dernier there a couple of times, along with Willie Wilson. And, there was also an executive from the Cubs there who I have become friendly with over the years who has imparted inside info to me from time to time. He's also been kind of a questionable guy characterwise and this year the questionable part was in full force. The guy's a creep, and I hope his ass gets fired. I'm not going to name him, but it isn't Hendry. He doesn't represent the team well at all when he's out drinking, and more than one local connected Chicago guy can probably guess who I'm talking about, since people at the bar last night weren't shocked at all.
- Many people think Wrigleyville West will be a bust. Diamond's gets buy mostly on Spring Training business and the football season. The new location really isn't near much of anything, and it wouldn't surprise anyone if the Wrigleyville portion of the new site doesn't get built for some time.
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When Hundley
and Rudolph were Cubs, the team didn’t have any catchers of merit in the system. That’s why Rebel caught 160 games one year. If Breeden, Heath, or even Rudolph represented a decent slashline (yeah, the term never came up then), Hundley would have been able to rest quite a bit more.
I’m certain KH adds something ‘Intangible’ to the team. Having players that don’t produce on the field is a Cubs tradition. We should get over that, and maybe compete more often.
Once again, I'm sorry you & I didn't get a chance to meet up.
And as most here know, I’m big on intangibles and clubhouse leadership. I’m sure Koyie Hill does bring some of those things to a team and pitching staff. However, when the on-field performance is as bad as Hill’s is, I think the team needs to move on.
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Sorry I missed you too.
I usually prefer to come towards the end.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 23, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
PS thanks for the Maddux info
Maybe I could “stalk” at the Marriott bar, but actually I started stalking at my hotel checkin, an adorable 9 month old puppy who is “mother” is a Cub fan here for the games. I offered to babysit .
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 23, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Use us as references...???
Looks around at the motley crew here…
I wouldn’t take a reference from us to become a trash man… lol
R.I.P. Ronnie Santo... you will be missed...
Not the Marriott Bar
The sports bar across from the Marriott called Diamond’s.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Geez that is not a good place for a Cubs legend to hang out
and not be approached. I would never do it as I know how he feels about it but a lot of people would.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 23, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah we were there too
Around the same evenings as BeerCub and my wife wondered the same thing since one of the waitresses mentioned he was there but that he did not want any fan interference. Kinda strange joint to hang especially when you have to stroll next to the bar to come and go. I spoke to him one evening as he was leaving when we crossed paths I simply told him it was cool to see him in uniform handing in the lineup card – he was cool and gracious.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
I think saying Hi on the way out is OK
but you never approach him when he is out in public with friends or especially family.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 24, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I would
Never have approached him at his table or anything like that, and it was a pretty quick exchange. Now if he bellyed up to the bar next to me then I would be inclined to start a conversation.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
PS re Maddux not drinking
Maddux is anything but a teetotaler however I suspect Diamonds did not have his drink of choice which is fine wine. He is a major wine connoisseur and has serious wine collection.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 24, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you wear a varied selection of Cub jerseys and hats?
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Yeah
Pretty much all throwback stuff – I’m a sucker for it. And if you saw me at Diamonds probably noticed I’m a sucker for that beverage that is your namesake.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
And.....
…. stirrup socks and a cute brunette?
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Better believe it buddy
Brunette is the missus.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
Well then......
…. we met. I was the guy at the jukebox who helped you figure out the Who song.
And, FWIW, everyone at our end of the bar decided you look like a young Bill Buckner in your jersey. They meant it in a good way.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Thats right!
“Who are you” Hahaha Thanks man. Well heck we’ll have to make sure and meet up again next year! Nice a young Bill Buckner I’ll take that compliment all day long.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
I'm jealous
We are hoping to come to ST next year.
But I’m not quite sure why you think the Cubs will hit. But I hope you are right
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 23, 2011 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
ST is a great time ....
You will meet some wonderful Cub fans . There is nothing better than following the Cubs around in the Valley . Start planning early you wont regret going .
Love ST!!
I’m heading out west tomorrow – can’t wait!! Have tix for the last 4 games (home and away)!!
"Don't give up...don't ever give up." - Jim Valvano
Come by and visit.
Alas I won’t be on the lawn Sunday and not sure if I am going Tuesday.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 24, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop by on the lawn.
Will be there Friday & Sunday, and on the LF lawn at Surprise on Saturday.
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