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Cubs 8, White Sox 7: Roster Decisions, Part Deux

MESA, Arizona -- In the eighth inning of today's 8-7 Cubs win over the White Sox, the first two pitches thrown by James Russell wound up on the left field berm, home runs by White Sox backup catcher Donny Lucy and shortstop Alexei Ramirez.

As someone pointed out to me after that event, "That doesn't even happen during batting practice!"

So maybe the Cubs need to re-think their optioning of Scott Maine to Iowa and the retention of Russell, who's been bad this spring; Russell's ERA jumped to 8.68 and he's now allowed four home runs in 9.1 innings thrown during exhibition games.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but Maine has much better stuff than Russell and although he didn't have great results this spring, they were better than Russell's.

There was a lot to like about today's nationally televised game; the Cubs teed off on Phil Humber, who is trying to take Jake Peavy's place in the Sox rotation, for a pair of runs in the first inning. I liked the way they did that, too: walk, double, sac fly, followed by another double -- four batters, two runs. Very efficient. They nicked Humber for two more runs, including Alfonso Soriano's third homer of the spring. Starlin Castro celebrated his 21st birthday with that first-inning double, a walk and a pair of runs scored, as well as a couple of slick double plays created with Darwin Barney.

Star-divide

Barney has made the team, with the latest round of roster cuts, and it would not surprise me if he wound up getting quite a few of the starts at second base, at least when Jeff Baker isn't starting against LHP. Barney singled and tripled today and is now hitting .372 this spring. He looks so natural at second base, which isn't his original position, and he and Castro make a nice-looking DP combination. Castro also made a couple of nice plays throwing out Adam Dunn when the Cubs had an extreme shift on against "The Big Donkey", who went 0-for-5 with three strikeouts. Dunn is hitting .190 this spring with only one HR in 58 AB.

Meanwhile, the Cubs also blasted ex-teammate Will Ohman, who is trying to make the SOx bullpen. He allowed an RBI single to Soriano and Barney's triple, which drove in a pair; turns out the Cubs needed all those runs, because of the two homers allowed by Russell, as well as a run given up in a save situation by Carlos Marmol, who wasn't completely sharp today. He did get two called strikeouts, including one to end the game, but Lucy drove in a run with a double, making it 8-7. The save by Marmol, the one by Kerry Wood yesterday and one earlier by Esmailin Caridad are the only saves recorded by Cubs pitchers this spring.

Regarding everyone's favorite, Koyie Hill, he drew two walks today and flied to center, making him 1-for-28 with three walks (.036/.129/.071). Nevertheless, from what I hear, there's almost no chance he won't break camp as the backup catcher. To me, this is the wrong decision. It means that Geovany Soto essentially has to catch every single day, because you simply don't want four automatic outs in a game, which it appears is what you'll get if Hill starts. Hill may wind up starting only day games after night games, or something along those lines. Welington Castillo will likely head to Iowa, where he could be recalled to start if (let's hope not) Soto is hurt. This Carrie Muskat article seems to indicate there may still be competition for the spot -- I wonder if that's true, or if the decision has already been made. I'd like to see Castillo get a start, maybe tomorrow.

Other roster decisions: Braden Looper gave up a run in two innings. He probably threw well enough to get one more appearance before the brass decides if he can still pitch at the major league level. I was happy to see Reed Johnson make the team as the fifth outfielder; it was clear that Fernando Perez just doesn't do anything well except run (and make funny videos).

Today's attendance of 13,282 was billed as a sellout, but reports indicated that tickets were available at the ticket windows, then posted as a sellout, then more tickets (lawn, particularly) were sold. Some seats down the LF line, empty the whole day, appeared to be unsold. The total attendance for the spring season, with three dates left, is 126,713, an average per date of 9,051. Only Sunday's game vs. the Rockies is expected to be a sellout. The game dragged on and on, partly because of the ten total walks issued, partly because ESPN's coverage meant an extra 30 seconds of break between half-innings (that's nine extra minutes tacked on, and they started several minutes past 2:05, too).

Randy Wells will start tomorrow against a Mariners split squad in Mesa; the game will be televised on both WGN and the MLB Network. Seattle's Aaron Laffey, who is not one of their rotation starters but instead a bullpen hopeful, will start for them, followed by Tom Wilhelmsen, Cesar Jimenez and Chris Ray. Game time goes back to the usual 1:05 (3:05 CDT).

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I don't care how it happens,

Keep Koyie Hill away from my team.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

He is the FIRST to go

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

VCF FIRST!!!

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, VCF was first!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

mwuuhahaha!!!

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You.....

I was about to be first

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by Cubbiegoon on Mar 24, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

You’re welcome!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poor Pena didn't get a hit today...

other than that, Cubs looked good today.

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by Cubbiegoon on Mar 24, 2011 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Neither did Hill

there is no way he helped the team look good in any way

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was it "good looking?"

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, he walked twice!

That’s better than before.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

And I don’t want to be too sarcastic because he is a good guy, but the only major leaguer I know who would make the headlines with two walks from 3 AB is Ted Lilly.

by Gio on Mar 24, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am never going to be this happy when Starlin strikes out with full bases.

I were pretty sure that Len and Bob will jinx him talking about potential injury versus the expected 160 games from him (without a legitimate SS backup beside Barney).

Talking about Darwin: Even without his impressive ST at the plate, he should be the starting 2nd baseman. He is BY FAR the best defender at his position. Runs well, hits OK.
Plus Baker is a veteran, who is more valuable as a utility man/pinch hitter. While DeWitt…….

by Gio on Mar 24, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Baker pounds lefthanders.

Thus, I can see him starting vs. LHP. That would make sense.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

H e had a good season against lefties...

…but his career numbers suggest otherwise. Yes he hits lefties well, but last year was an anomaly. I don’t like the idea of platooning at any position, lets hope Dewitt doesn’t get the nod and then we can see what Barney can do.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

He certainly hits them better than he hits righties.

He hits 296/349/510 vs lefties. That’s pretty good.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes but his .350 avg. kind of skewed the numbers...

…a bit in Bakers favor. To suggest he “pounds” lefties based on one inflated year is presumptuous.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read those career numbers again.

That’s an .859 OPS vs. LHP — pretty close to All-Star level.

Worth starting in a platoon, IMO.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

However, we just might have a decent one here, although “platooning” two RH hitters isn’t a strict platoon.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just the thing...

…with two RH hitters, Barney maybe just as good against lefties. Wasn’t it a lefty that he sliced a triple down the right field line against today?

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Will Ohman.

So that really doesn’t count, does it?

Barney may yet win the job outright. But to start, I think they have to split the time.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will Ohman will probably be in the Sox...

…bullpen to start the season. Ohman has been referred to all off-season as one of Williams key acquisitions. The Sox bullpen might be in trouble.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohman never liked the guy

and boy – he sure was rude to a friend of mine before the game. Nothing overly rude but seemed to have a poor attitude. An “Im important” attitude.

No wonder Lou called him out.

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by Hammer on Mar 24, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

In person

Barney sure is slick at 2B. Also, love watching him on the bases.

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by Hammer on Mar 24, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey -- you should have stopped by on the lawn.

If you’re there tomorrow or Sunday, or in Surprise Saturday, stop on by.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey

Saw you coming in but was coming in with an old friend and his friends I’d just met. Wouldn’t been rude

Although I will be there in Surprise. With my wife, Grandma and Grandpa and if I can I will

Surprise tomorrow too w/ fireworks etc. Sundays matchup is so great and I’m glad it’s the last hurrah of my trip.

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by Hammer on Mar 25, 2011 1:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Satrudays Matchup"

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by Hammer on Mar 25, 2011 1:39 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds good.

Stop on by. Glad you’re having a good time.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do not understand

how people (none here) seem to think getting Will Ohman was some coup by Kenny Williams.

I’m guessing if the Cubs signed him, those same people would be mocking and ridiculing them.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

in 2009

he hit .279/.323/.459 – OPS of .782 (but he was a better avg and obp hitter vs RHP)
2008 – .290/.336/.590 – OPS of .926
2007 – .246/.333/.426 – OPS of .760

I would say that while last year was an outlier he is still a good hitter against LHP

Throw out 2010 and 2007 and you have someone who will give you around .285/.330/.500(tough to estimate) - if you can get that in the lineup every third day I say you do it.

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would hardly say

that Barney sucks…just inexperienced and better with the glove than the stick…nothing wrong with that at 2nd

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Having a good spring training doesn't make him good.

I like him as a ball player, and he seems like a great guy, but he hasn’t done enough to be even average.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin was in the same shoes

last spring…

I think saying that Barney sucks is a tad on the side of hyperbole…he has a good glove and is decent at the plate…

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

But I’m just not ready to call him a decent player at the major league level quite yet.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

he has the potential to be an average to slightly above average 2bman at the major league level…he wont be Utley but he sure as hell wont be Miles

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

At .285/.330 that might be what Barney...

…can give you on a consistent basis against lefties, wouldn’t that basically nullify a need for a platoon at second?

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not an earth shattering

start to the slash line but he hits for some pop and it would be a good way to give Darwin a day off here and there plus then he can shift over to SS to give Castro the day off here and there

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is what I was thinking

Barney is the only other guy on the roster who can play SS, and Castro will need a day off here an there.

by ClarkFan on Mar 24, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it a sure thing that Barney will be starting come next week?

Or are we all guessing?

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

after Quade's

move to get DeWitt more time over at 3rd I think it is an educated guess

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the long run, yes.

But we don’t yet know whether he can do that on a consistent basis.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since DeWitt doesn't have much offense over Barney,

or Scales for that matter, lifetime, might as well go with the D at 2B, with Baker starting versus LHP.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 24, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barney/Baker

looks like a more than serviceable platoon. DeWitt as the last position player?

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not

Just keep Barney there for LHP and RHP? the Kids young and deserves time to develop. Baker can be used in situations against lefties because you know he will produce but Barney should be the starter at the beginning of the season. Good chemistry up the middle between Castro and him and over time… hopefully he’ll figure out lefties.

by Dave Gottschalk on Mar 24, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baker will start against lefties,

Barney against righties (he will get the majority therefore) and they can let him hit against the lefties that are brought in to relieve.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

"From what I hear"

Any way we can attribute this? Who is this word coming from? I will be so disappointed if this happens.

by jackweiland on Mar 24, 2011 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

It's what I heard today.

That’s all I can say.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The ony way to make sure Koyie Hill doesn't absolutely kill this team...

…every time he plays is to make him Zambrano’s personal catcher.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Why? Because Z is a better hitter?

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only that, Z with his quick delivery to home plate...

…will cover Hill’s throwing deficiencies as well. I believe Z has one of lowest stolen base pct. against him in the league.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that actually makes some sense.

Personal catcher? Has worked for a lot of pitchers. OTOH, Z and Geo get along really well, too.

It’s an interesting idea.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what's a better idea?

Put Hill in Iowa.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking worst case scenario

you know “life gives you lemons….make lemonade!!!” Crap I can’t even convince myself of that.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

stop it...stop it now please?

Troutfishin, you might convince others

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Genious I say!!!

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello TJ11!!!!!

Interesting thought…are you saying that Jim Hendry actually is Koyie Hill? It’s possible…have they ever been seen together?

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh, as Mike Q says:

“The plot thickens”

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're killing me!!!!

LOL. PS- was I short a (!) or two???

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of special relationships...

Maybe the two of you should get a room.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 24, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

perhaps more than mere coincidence is at work here?

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

yuk... bed-time now

I hope I can sleep…I was getting a visual there for a minute

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

goodnite my friend

3 more on TV. Hope to seeya tomoro!!! (I’d best take a sleeping pill…or two!!!)

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed Sutcliff today

Nice support of Santo….inside reports about Barney and Castro, nice interview with Maddux. Would have rather been there in person though!

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Mar 24, 2011 8:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Forgot to mention Matt Garza

… who looked pretty good, apart from the HR he gave up to Omar Vizquel. (Seriously, OMAR VIZQUEL.)

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

also was very unlucky. He gave up 3 singles from 3 perfect 2-strike pitches (2 outside corner fastballs at the knees, and a good curveball, same location).

He had descent stuff with a very strict strike zone against a quality lineup.

by Gio on Mar 24, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of them was a check swing blooper

He really made Dunn and Konerko look silly at different points

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 24, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but I thought

Garza threw too many pitches today. I was at the game today and it felt like he was throwin 2 and 3 balls per batter.. What was his final pitch count?

by Dave Gottschalk on Mar 24, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno, but...

… it seemed to be close to 100.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ump Darling

squeezed the plate all day.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Mar 24, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I'll say about Russell is what I said about Grabow in spring training last year

Grabow had a horrible final month of 2009 that carried over to a horrible spring training and horrible 2010. Russell could not get anyone out the final two months of last year and it does not look like he has righted the ship. In Aug/Sept of last year Russell gave up 17r (13er) in 16 innings.

As far as today, definitely a nice outing for Garza, lot of fly balls though. Castro looks great at the plate, Barney is hard not to like. BTW, there was an article in Washington Post today about Dunn’s spring training numbers the past three years and believe it or not, this is the best spring of the three. One ST I think he had 0 HR and 0 RBIs

by BeltwayCubsFan on Mar 24, 2011 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You don't need a baseball expert to see that Koyie Hill sucks.

But I really like Castillo. I will cry if I ever see Hill behind any plate unless it’s in Iowa.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Koyie Hill

I still don’t understand why the resigned him in the first place two months ago. Nevertheless…always tough to just eat $850K

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/2011-01-12-3783601965_x.htm

by Neifi Puppy on Mar 24, 2011 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

The team only has to eat

15% if he’s cut before the season starts.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Mar 24, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter.

The Hill haters will just say Hendry and the Cubs wasted $127,500 on a spring training catcher, and this is the reason everything is rotten in the state on Denmark.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Mar 24, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love me some Hill!

Aaron, Grant, or even Koyie if he was on any other team!

by jpeters407 on Mar 25, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

What - no love for Rich?

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by ballhawk on Mar 25, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if anyone else noticed this

But our schedule is insanely easy in April. Hopefully we can get some confidence flowing going into May/June.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know if I'd say "insanely" easy.

But they really should use that first homestand to get off to a hot start.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

weather is predicted to be unseasonably cold

if you believe those long-range forecasts. that, if I recall correctly, seldom helps our cubbies.

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think weather has anything to do with it.

April 2003 was unseasonably cold. The Cubs went 15-12.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I visit

to have my ignorance corrected Al! :] I’m hoping for better than 15-12 in 2011 tho…maybe hoping against hope.

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about an Ernie-ism?

“The Cubs will be looking fine with an April of 18 and 9!”

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by ballhawk on Mar 24, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which makes it better for the pitchers, correct?

Considering we already have an upper tier rotation, they should be one of the best in April.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say so

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

17-10 April

is my prediction, we have also quietly won four of the last five (if you count the Angels game).

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

it's ST

its a time to dream… :]

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think so, look at the schedule

Pittsburgh (2-1 but could/should sweep)
Arizona (2-1)
@ Milwaukee (1-2)
@ Houston (2-1)
@ Colorado (1-2)
San Diego (2-1)
Los Angeles (2-1)
@ Arizona (2-1)

Total 17-10 optimistic, yes, impossible no.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully that will give our boys some confidence.

We gotta rough road trip in June. 3 with the Cards, 3 with the Reds, and 4 with the Phils.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phillies and Reds will be tough but i think Cards wont be so bad

If we dont see Carpenter on that road trip then it shouldnt be to hard to win 2 of 3.

by Mitchener on Mar 25, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that Colorado series at Wrigley?

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

We play them on the road and at Wrigley.

It appears he left the one at Wrigley out.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm partly correct.

There is a home series with Colorado, but it’s after the 3 games at home against the Dodgers and before the Cubs visit Arizona.

Thoughts on this series?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rockies are a very good team.

Six games against them? A split would be very good.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

With six games vs. the Diamondbacks, three vs. the Pirates and three vs. the Astros?

17-10 is doable.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even tho Pirates had our number in 2010

17-10 would be nice. Can Pirates man-handle us 2 years in a row? Lord, I hope not!

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs were to go 17-10 in the month of April...

…I would gladly eat my shorts with a knife and fork in front of the Wrigley faithful. I don’t see much happening with this team until at least 2012.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

(except the part about eating your shorts)

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

well...if you think it's a safe bet...

but first, obviously, I’d havta see your shorts… they’d havta be briefs (not boxers) and I get to use salt n pepper…and a sharp knife… G’nite my friend! :] 5am comes early out near Schaumburg!

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

But with that schedule it is possible

outside of Milwaukee (with no Greinke) there are none of the heavy hitters.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The nucleus of this team has remained mostly

intact from last year and they weren’t very good against some of the poorer teams in the league. I’m not saying those days aren’t over but I find it hard to solely lay the blame at Lou’s feet. He had some dog players to work with and for the most part a lot of those players are still here.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but is Ramirez going to be as bad as he was in the first half?

Are we better up the middle? The starters from 1-5 (with Cashner) are one of the top groups in the league, and Wood helps the bullpen. So while the team is largely similar, I think they have improved. Will that translate on the field, time will tell. I think they will have one of those years like 09 where they hover a little above .500 and as long as nobody runs away with the division they will stay in the race. Just my opinion.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Find it hard, hard to believe

Aram has another bad year. Think there was a “hidden injury” involved LY

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right...I hope the optimistic...

….amatuer prognosticators on this blog are right. I would love to be proven wrong. I just think a lot of these players are on the downside of their careers, can Ramirez get it back? I hope so. That’s all we can do in this weary world is hope that the Cubs can add a little bit of happiness to our chaotic lives this season.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

If not, it could be curtains for Aram

Contract year, bad half-year LY, but, his numbers, if translated out for an entire season, woulda been pretty typical Aram.

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm counting on it... his ego that is.

I mean it this time: G’nite my friend…7 hrs sleep minimum for us old guys!

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

But how much different are most of the amateur prognosticators

than the so called experts? Are not most of them experts and amateurs predicting a .500 season give or take a few games? Shouldn’t fans be optimistic for a new season? I agree, Soriano, Ramirez, Wood, Pena all may be on the downside of their careers. But even the experts expect Ramirez and Pena to have better years. It is not as if there is no youth, Soto, Barney, Castro, Garza, Wells, Cashner, and Marmol are all relatively young and could improve. Byrd, Fukudome, Dempster, Zambrano should all stay somewhat close to where they have been. I’ll take my optimism, if it is misguided.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's misguided in fact I respect that...

….I’m more of a happy pessimist that will admit when I’m wrong and as it pertains to the Cubs, I hope that I’m wrong. We could all use a playoff run this year.

by troutfishin on Mar 24, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree on the playoff run,

I also think that anything short of a good/great April spells doom for this team. I think they have to start hot or it will be a long summer. If they do have a bad year, then they need to play the young players (Colvin, Barney, Cashner) and sit the vets on the bench, trade them, or release them and start the future.

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll say this about Carrie Muskat

She’s an idiot who really has no information from the team. But when she does have information, she’s usually the last one to find out. So if she’s saying something is true, it probably is.

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by Musicdude10 on Mar 24, 2011 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

And you'd be 100% wrong about your characterization of her.

She’s a beat writer like the other beat writers. Gets the same info they do, works the same contacts they do.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Mar 24, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think this was a case

of trying to get someone who had some upside while unloading some serious cash for a player we most likely werent going to re-sign…

Has it not worked out – absolutely – but I think, considering we gave up 2 rent-a-players to a team that had a slim chance at contention I dont think it was a bad move

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

it appears

they are trying to squeeze all of the juice from the kiwi…lest he end up a McGeehee Jr…always the case of the “we can fix him” syndrome at work

by hansman1982 on Mar 24, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT on the Cubs - Red Sox series

My tix arrived in the mail yesterday and the envelop is very generic, you wouldn’t really know they had the tickets in them as no indication they are from the Red Sox. Some might be inclined to just assume it is junk mail and throw it out.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Mar 24, 2011 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

How so,

A little envelope from Concord, CA? That’s what I got last year.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know,

I nearly tossed the envelopes last year before removing the tickets.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 24, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're fortunate... if Cubs do well...

Maybe we could eat troutfishins underwear outside the Green Monster??? :]

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey!

You said it “was a pretty safe bet!”. LOL G’nite

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No going back on that one.

But does anyone really want to see it happen?

by jpeters407 on Mar 24, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Al offered to "pay for it"...

Troutfishin does seem confident… but, then again, I’m on a restricted diet…doctors orders! LOL

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by jeffstorm2 on Mar 24, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Matthew Barry's bold prediction column
Baltimore Orioles: Felix Pie goes 15/15. I’m thinking: He has always had the skills, just never put them together at the same time he had playing time. With Derrek Lee and Vladimir Guerrero on one-year deals (and Lee an injury risk, so Luke Scott would play first), I bet that, between falling out of the race, dealing players away and injuries, Pie will get at least 400 at-bats. Plus, I already talked about how much I love Adam Jones, Vlad, Scott and Mark Reynolds in Love/Hate and 100 Facts, so I figured I should talk about someone else.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Another from Berry's column
Chicago Cubs: Tyler Colvin hits 40 home runs. I’m thinking: The bold part isn’t the number (OK, it’s a little high) but he did hit 20 last year in about 350 at-bats. The bold part is playing time, but he’s been taking some time at first this spring, as well. One way or the other, he’ll find his way into the lineup.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 24, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

Talk about bold…

by Dcr18 on Mar 25, 2011 5:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

if he hits

40 homers a year sign him to a 10 year deal now

by hansman1982 on Mar 25, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Few things from the game today

Crowd was great anything ribbing back and forth between Cubs/Sox fans was civil and a lot of fun. While sitting over the catcher when Marmol is warming up its safe to say I would be scared to face him. Marmol also had the best car in the lot, while most seemed to be rentals, Marmol left in a red Ferrari. Sutcliffe left in a Ford Escape – and for being such a big guy he looked goofy in it. Koyie Hill signed for everyone, so did Riggins and Barney was wearing a great Simpsons shirt. Hendry walked around mostly unnoticed after then game near the clubhouse until spotted of course.

Overall – I had a great time today. The weather was warm but the breeze made it awesome. Lastly – one thing I have noticed about ST is that although the hot dogs are decent – nothing beats a steamed bun.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Mar 24, 2011 10:02 PM CDT reply actions  

If Hill makes this team

it truly is a slap in the face for anyone who works hard, and plays better than his competition. If I was “Beef” I would be pissed and I would voice it in a diplomatic way.
 Hill is that much better behind the plate? Please Jim Hendry convince me.
 Barney has won the second base job, no question.

by Grockcubs on Mar 24, 2011 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

The reasoning is...

Hill is a backup catcher and they don’t want to keep beef on the bench which is where a backup catcher rests on for most of the games. They want beef to get consistent playing time and At bats.

The Cubs might be tempted to move Soto in June if they fall back or in the off-season if presented with the right deal. Beef will then become the regular catcher. If beef continues his good hitting at Iowa he may fetch some very good returns in a trade too.

by cubsnlinux on Mar 25, 2011 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

This would be all fine if....

Hill has gotten 253 and 215 AB’s the last two years. They are give away plate appearances. It is not like Hill only plays once in awhile, Soto if healthy will most likely catch 130 games, and if healthy is not what Soto has been the last two years.
 The lineup with Hill catching would be extremely weak considering him hitting 8th, Dewitt/Barney hitting 7th and the pitcher. Hell “Z” could hit 7th.
 Cubs are not going to move Soto, he is not able to be a free agent until 2014. He is cost controlled reasonably until then. Plus he can hit.

by Grockcubs on Mar 25, 2011 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

The reason Hill got so many AB the last two years...

… is that Geo wasn’t healthy, as you point out. But Geo caught only a little more than 100 games each of the last two years. If he catches 130 — that’s a big difference.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you'd agree with me, Al ...

that the fact that we have a starting catcher who has a history of nagging injuries is all the more reason Hill shouldn’t make this team. If history is any judge, Soto won’t catch 130. Maybe 120, but that’s still 42 games for Koyie Hill to infuriate all of us.

If Soto were as durable as AJ or the like, we wouldn’t be bitching so much about Hill — or, at the very least, we’d have far less reason to bitch about him.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And wither Ramirez?

If Cubs send Beef down to Iowa so he can catch every day and continue to progress (no argument here on that approach), then where does Ramirez go? Maybe the DL to start but after that? Does he go to AA so he too can play every day? Doubtful. Does he go to Iowa to be Beef’s backup? Possibly but that’d be a waste. If he’s going to be a backup, why not at the big league level? He’d certainly provide more value than Hill.

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by ballhawk on Mar 25, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hawk, we are in complete agreement.

I’ll call Quade. If he hears that the two of us support MaxRam over Koyie, that’s bound to change EVERYTHING.

:)

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know that Geo has had injury problems in the past.

They are supposedly fixed. He caught 131 games only three years ago, and just turned 28. I don’t see any reason he couldn’t catch 130 games this year.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is that he'll HAVE to.

He very well could start that many games — but the Cubs should be planning for the fact that he won’t, because he hasn’t since 2008.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

And ...

… if things get really bad with Hill, there’s Beef at Iowa.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah ...

the thing is, though, that Hill making the trip north and Castillo going to Iowa wouldn’t be THAT bad if Max Ramirez wasn’t in the cards. It sure looks like some “injury” will keep him on the DL, but if not, I expect the Astros or some other team to snag him quickly.

Makes you wonder why Hendry even bothered with Ramirez.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... I sense another democracy-in-action citizen-coup uprising in the offing...
  • elgato and ballhawk take over player/roster assignment responsibilities,
  • cubsfan, timh and josh manage scouting and player development,
  • sue takes over AAA Iowa
  • blackhawk24 assumes all fiscal duties,
  • Al is in charge of all things media,
  • TJ and NBF will run public relations and the fan ambassador program
  • Ivy walls is new editor for vineline,
  • azjazzman takes point on springtraining facility and wrigleyville west,
  • and of course doggie stalker takes over all marketing activities.

SWL and Dan will provide on-the-scene reports for the Daily Show and pretty much mock us every step of the way, and then BLou will make a triumphant return from exile to let us know in his own loving way how we’re doing it all wrong and that we should pound sand.

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by ballhawk on Mar 25, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perfect.

I accept.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Done.

Special props to the founding of the TJNBF Marketing Company. Hilarious.

I think I’d add NOMAR as fan ambassador for punctuation and closing thoughts.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hill isn't just the backup catcher

He’s also a bat off the bench, which makes his place on the team that much more laughable.

Castillo would be a guy that could make a difference in a lot more games than just the one he starts every five days, while Hill will only be in any way valuable on defense when he plays.

Dump him. Now.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 6:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Not to give Hill any benefit of any doubt ...

but I disagree with your statement. Backup catchers are usually the absolute last guys to pinch-hit. If they pinch-hit and aren’t put into the game, and the starting catcher goes down …

Seriously, how often did Henry Blanco pinch-hit as a Cub? I’ll bet he did it less than 10 times in two seasons, and I bet most of those times were in extra innings.

Now, if Castillo or MaxRam gets the nod, each of them would pinch hit more than Hill, but not MUCH more. Hill’s biggest drain on this team will be the four or five at-bats he gets each week when he starts — I’m resigned to him being a Cub, at this point — not the pinch-hitting opportunity he gets once a month.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since you asked.

Henry Blanco was with the Cubs for four seasons.

In 2005, he did not PH at all.

2006: 0-for-2
2007: 2-for-4, a walk
2008: 4-for-16, a walk, 4 RBI

For comparison, Koyie Hill has also had four seasons with the Cubs. As PH:

2007: 2-for-5
2008: 0-for-3
2009: 1-for-5, a walk
2010: 0-for-3

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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

How did Blanco pinch-hit 16 times in 2008? Damn!

Still 22 pinch-hit at-bats in four seasons — or less than six at-bats a year.

So, the bat-off-the-bench argument isn’t that significant. In fact, I bet Hill will pinch-hit even less in 2011, either because Quade knows he’d be better off with a mannequin (he could draw a walk!) or because Hill doesn’t last the entire year.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hill's kinda got a Bret Saberhagen alternating good-year bad-year thing going there

Looks like 2011 could be something special again… ;-)

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by ballhawk on Mar 25, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sad ...

that 1-for-5 with a walk is a ‘good year’.

By the way, my wife was killed in a tragic blimp accident.

Goodyear?

No, the worst.

by elgato on Mar 25, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a banner day at Wrigley - literally.

They’ve got the April 2011 Opening Weekend banners up already along the upper deck exterior facing Clark & Addison. And apparently the “It’s a Way of Life” theme is continuing this year as well. Some of those banners are up again as well.

No sign of big player banners yet when I drove by this morning, but plenty of White Way (prominent chicago signage company) trucks parked along Clark so I suspect they’re not done yet.

Man, what I wouldn’t give to see a 20 ft Koyie Hll in-action banner right up there next to the Marquee. Gitttterdone Wally!!!!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 25, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

or

“15 things have to go our way each year for us to contend”

what they dont want you to know is how the “Its a Way of Life” started out

“Mediocrity – It’s the Cubs Way of Life”

by hansman1982 on Mar 25, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking last night how similar the 2003-06 era was to the 2007-10 era.

This comment has been made before (possibly by me). But the historical ironies keep growing.

Blake DeWitt is the new Cesar Izturis and Darwin Barney is the new Ryan Theriot. The Quade Bump that Hendry got late last year is equivalent to the Spending Bump after 2007.

I could keep going — and yes, I know there are differences, too — but it’s an odd thing that happens with our team.

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