Cubs 6, Mariners 3: Starlin Stars, Roster Merry-Go-Round
The Cubs came from behind to win today on a bases-clearing double by Starlin Castro.
I put those words in a quotebox because I think you're going to be hearing them from me (and others) quite a few times this season. Castro appears ready to have a huge breakout season, not that last year was any slouch from him, either. His three-run double in the seventh inning lifted the Cubs to a 6-3 win over a rather sorry-looking split-squad of Mariners this afternoon at HoHoKam Park in front of a crowd that looked rather small early on, but filled in to a count of 11,187. That makes the season total in Mesa 137,900 and the average over 15 dates 9,193. A sellout is expected on Sunday when the Cubs meet the Rockies.
There's a lot more good to report on another day of unlimited sunshine in the Valley -- and the Cubs better soak that up while they can; the latest forecast for Opening Day next Friday does have sunshine, but temperatures in the upper 40s rather than the 70s and 80s they've been used to. Randy Wells had a couple of shaky innings, but struck out eight and threw 5.2 decent frames. The bullpen was very good today -- Jeff Samardzija, Sean Marshall, John Grabow and Marcos Mateo threw 3.1 innings of no-hit, one-walk, four-strikeout ball. Once again, though, a caveat: the team they were facing was only half of the worst offense in baseball last year, and only a couple of regulars were in the game for Seattle once the Cubs' bullpen took over.
Meanwhile, in addition to Castro, offense was provided by Reed Johnson, who doubled in a run in his only plate appearance of the day, and a bomb of a homer by Blake DeWitt (where's that been all spring?), who batted for Jeff Baker when Baker left the game with a tight left hamstring, something that doesn't appear to be a serious issue. However, what most of you are interested in is the roster moves that haven't been officially made, but seem to be pretty certain -- more after the jump.
Various tweets and announcements today had Andrew Cashner making the team (whether as starter or reliever), that Braden Looper retiring (it was a worthy attempt, but he just didn't have anything left), that James Russell has made the team (if he keeps throwing the way he has in the spring, he'll be in Des Moines by May) and that the other not-yet-cut pitchers -- Casey Coleman, Jeff Stevens and Marcos Mateo -- all are in the mix for the final spot along with Carlos Silva.
Well. There's a fanshot posted here that quotes Joel Sherman of the New York Post quoting an "exec from another team" saying that Silva has been beaten out by Cashner for the final spot in the rotation and that the Cubs would eat the money on Silva's contract. No word has come from the Cubs camp nor any Cubs writer confirming this. Cashner will start tomorrow against the Rangers in Surprise -- maybe, if he throws well enough, that will be true. Silva would be on schedule to start Monday, if the current rotation holds -- but also, the Cubs would likely want Carlos Zambrano to pitch on Monday, to keep him on target for his first regular season start Saturday against the Pirates.
I'd be fine with the Cubs eating the money and letting Silva go, or maybe if they're lucky, finding a trade partner, whether or not the other team takes any dollars (maybe a face-saving prospect comes in return). Casey Coleman is probably better served starting at Iowa than being the forgotten 12th man in the pen, so he'd be ready in case of injury. Mateo looked good today, but again, keep in mind the opponent. I've never been that impressed with Stevens; I assume we'll see him in tomorrow's game.
Other than that, it appears the roster is set. No word has come down on the backup catcher job, but I know many of you are getting your torches and pitchforks ready if Koyie Hill is retained. It'll simply have to be this: Geovany Soto will have to catch most every game, or perhaps get some late-inning relief from Hill in games that are in hand (or blowout losses). So many bytes and pixels have been spilled here regarding the Cubs' backup catcher, and it just doesn't seem worth it to me. Yes, Hill was not a good player last year and hasn't been good this spring. But performances like the one we saw today out of Castro make me think that maybe, just maybe, this team can generate enough offense to go along with the good pitching we've seen to bring some early-season wins. The Cubs have won four of their last five and looked good doing it, and the one loss was a tough one in extra innings.
Tomorrow, as noted, Cashner starts against the Rangers; Texas plays later this evening and has not yet announced a starter for the game which will be televised on ESPN2.
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So many bytes and pixels have been spilled here regarding the Cubs’ backup catcher, and it just doesn’t seem worth it to me.
Hendry had already decided Hill was going to make the team in the winter…so it turns out that you’re right…none of the discussion was worth it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 25, 2011 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
The point I was trying to make was...
… that spilling all of this over a backup catcher is a bit overwrought.
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After all that's been said about this...
you still think it’s just about “a backup catcher” and our “hate of Koyie Hill”. Amazing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 25, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He doesn't actually think that. He's simply trying to kill the discussion
Because it always comes round to what a TERRIBLE job hendry has done
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
It appears to me that every post is such a post.
At least, that’s the way I read the comments.
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by Al Yellon on Mar 25, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, if he didn't do such a crappy job.......
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
Feel free to criticize.
Fat jokes don’t belong here.
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Agreed
We should all stick to the ample & compelling empirical body of evidence of Hendry’s incompetence without stooping to ad hominien insults. Let’s begin by examining the results of Hendry’s huge payroll expansion that’s culminated in our current miserable ‘no hit, no field’ roster. Hendy should be thankful that he’s not being prosecuted criminal misuse of millions of dollars.
I'm wet nurse to a (5th)-place, dead-to-the-neck-up ball club, and I'm choking to death!
Huge? Expansion?
I see what you’re doing.
by troutfishin on Mar 26, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The Festivus "airing of grievances" will commence on 12/23
I think we will have some pretty fresh Hendry material by then.
by troutfishin on Mar 25, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
No, that's not what I think.
I understand the point you’re trying to make. I agree with some of it, regarding Hendry’s decision making, but not all of it, and certainly regarding a backup catcher, it’s way over the top.
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Im not sure how Quade will handle the backup role
Hill was getting way to many AB’s and that worries me.
Koyie was playing THE MOST at the end of the season.
Does that make sense to you?
15 games in Sept/Oct (.556) with 14 complete games
18 in Aug (.653 OPS) with 17 complete games
21 in June/July (.457 OPS) with 19 complete games
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
September Soto hurt
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Explain June and July then.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
If I had to guess,
Those were due to Lou Piniella trying to tinker the lineup to produce more runs. He promised several times last year to make “lineup changes”, but would only make one or two changes at a time.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Good riddance to Lou Piniella.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
produce MORE runs?
Why would he have Hill in there then?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Mar 26, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
No explanation.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Keep in mind Soto is my favorite Cub
I was just pointing out there was a reason for that month.
There is NO EXCUSE for June & July especially if you look @ Soto stats from last year. I can only hope he as good of year this year b/c otherwise we are going see our pitchers possibly hitting better than our catcher.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
It has nothing to do with Koyie Hill!
Alright, maybe a little. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again—he’s the best player to have his fingers cut off and play MLB.
The Koyie Hill Raise of 2011 (as it will be known in all future dtpollitt n SWL FanShots) is indicative of inept owners and management.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I can't wait to see those FanPosts.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
A few in the tumbler.
But neither of us care about this team enough to commit to the work of a FanPost at the moment.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
That's okay,
I can understand that. I probably won’t care too much for this team either after June.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny you both say that
I’ll be listening to the Cubs during the season…. but my bcb time (thankfully for my production) will be cut way back.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So you admit
Hill’s a better player than Roger Metzger.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 25, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Just think about this
Koyie Hill has played in 83 and 77 games in 2009-10 with 253 and 215 ABs in 2009 and 2010 respectively. If you use 4-5 ABs as the average per game, he has started around 55 games a year! Yuk, Yuk, and more yuk!
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6258202
This article confirms that Koyie Hill will most likely be the backup catcher
I wrote this in the Muskat thread
Just ridiculous! Koyie Hill effectively shortens our lineup to 6 when he starts. The guy batting in the 7 hole isn’t going to see any good pitches because Koyie Hill and the pitcher will be batting 8th and 9th.
Geo needs to be healthy and catch at least 135 games this year, but Geo is injury prone and that is about 5-10 games more than you want your starting catcher to play, MaxRam would just be a much better selection for the backup catcher, it should be as plain as day.
This is just a terrible decision by the Cubs and when (its not an if) Geo gets injured, we’re going to see Koyie Hill catch 5 games a week, that’s just unacceptable!
Beef
No, when Geo gets injured, Beef will be called up and assume majority of the catching.
Or MaxRam.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think they can send MaxRam down - he has to clear waivers
And he will get claimed, giving some other team a better backup catcher than the team who waived him.
I'd like to think so
What makes either of you think it won’t be all Hill? The Cubs have repeatly showed faith in Hill.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Because now they have a MLB-ready starter in Castillo.
That wasn’t the case a year ago.
And, there’s a new manager.
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Then why is he going to be @ Triple A
So Soto gets injured they are going to move up their Triple A catcher to starting and leave Hill as the back up.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Speculation of course, but I belive that is exactly what they would do. Plus, build trade values in the process…
but if they are making a decision now that makes no sense
what proof do we have that when the time comes they will make a decision that makes sense
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
berg hung a curve
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Mar 25, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Nonsense, utter nonsense
That new manager continued to play Hill over Castillo at the end of last year
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
Backup
Cubs view Hill as a pure backup. Beef and maybe MRAM are starter potentials.
what?
If this is actually why they’re going with Hill over the other two, then Hendry is dumber than I thought
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
makes sense
if Max is truly injured does him no good to play through it and the Cubs dont need him…
Beef gets to goto Iowa to get consistent at bats and maybe him or Soto becomes trade-able at some point
Well how come that didn't happen last September?
Hill played about every game while Beef was glued to the bench.
That's not what happened the last 2 years when Geo got injured
Hill started almost every game over Castillo after Geo got injured in 2010. What makes you believe it will be any different in 2011?
Castillo has 2 more years experience than he did 2 years ago.
And we have a different manager as well.
actually, Castillo has exactly 1 more spring training's worth of experience than he had in September 2010
when his arse was glued to the bench after Geo got injured and Quade was the manager then……So your post makes no sense to me at all……
It's been a pretty good spring training, right?
I’d say that single experience time span has been about as productive and positive as you could want.
Yes it has, for both Castillo and MaxRam
and their respective rewards are being sent to AAA and a phantom DL stint, respectively. What great decisions by our managerial staff and FO (sarcasm intended)……
Their reward is getting an opportunity to play every day rather than every 4th or 5th day
Riding pine at Wrigley is not the reward I’d want.
So you would be up for a minor league salary and travel
While a guy who is worse at his job is making 850,000 smackers a year and drawing major league meal money?
Hell of a way to treat your employees…
Even if it's secure with the knowledge that the management chose the best people for the positions?
That’s a fundamental aspect of all businesses.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs were winning against other teams expanded rosters
sorry if those wins mean less than nothing to me.
Hill sucks and Castillo/MaxRam don’t. In all likelihood, the backup catcher is going to be starting at least 50+ games this year, at least that’s the way it’s been for the last 2 years…..
From August 6- on the Cubs were
1-5 Cincy
2-5 San Fran
6-3 St. Louis
3-5 SD
1-2 Atlanta
3-0 Washington
2-1 Pittsburgh
2-1 NY
3-3 Hou
2-1 Milwaukee
3-0 Florida
or 13-20 (4-13 from 8/6-20) versus teams fighting for the playoffs and 15-6 against the also rans. So they were 9-7 against playoff teams late, I doubt they were playing their expanded roster.
I agree Hill sucks, but they did win.
they won in spite of having 2 automatic outs in the lineup
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Mar 25, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
that's fine, it was nice to feast on other team's AAA pitchers. It got Quade his job in 2011
but, if you dig into the numbers during Quade’s 2010 win streak, you’ll notice that they’re was a lot of good luck, higher BABIPs, lower BAs, pitcher’s (outside of BigZ) that didn’t pitch well, etc…….
That type of good luck doesn’t usually last for 162 games and the Cubs had some bad luck (crappy ARam, crappy DLee) early in the 2010 season to balance out the good Aug/Sept luck.
In the end, the Cubs won 75 games, which wasn’t too far off what they were projected to win in 2010 before the season began……
Agreed, the bad luck was for a longer period
than the good luck. They were not playing other teams AAA pitchers since several of those teams were in the race. The Cubs were also looking at youth all last year, how many rookies did they go through last year “before” September?
about half against bottom feeders
non-contenders (you can throw a few of the STL games from Sept in here as well, since the Cincy basically had the division wrapped up by middle Sept):
3-0 Washington
2-1 Pittsburgh
2-1 NY
3-3 Hou
2-1 Milwaukee
3-0 Florida
contenders/pseudo-contenders:
1-5 Cincy
2-5 San Fran
6-3 St. Louis
3-5 SD
1-2 Atlanta
We pretty much knocked St. Louis
out of the race in that final series. The last couple of years we couldn’t beat the non-contenders enough to be competitive. Last August and September we did at a 15-6 clip and combined with the 13-20 against contenders the 28-26 finish would yield a season with 84 wins. I think that is about where the 2011 team is right now. The question to me is if they are in the race in July will they make moves to try and win or ride out the “contention” and build for the future?
And we won despite Hill...
Not because of him.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If Soto gets hurt
Hill will get most of the starts and Beef sits just he did last year when the Cubs were out of first by 75 games.
This is futility by all of us who what Hill off this team. He is here and there is not a damn thing we can do. This is another case of Hendry making a mistake with the roster. The last 2 years he has been doing the same. Goodness Jimbo you can let him go,
Time to let Hendry go instead - treat the cause not the symptom
by ClarkFan on Mar 25, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
^ This ^
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
How much is his contract?
If we’re willing to cut Silva, might as well cut Hendry.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
The players like Jim, TJ.
That’s his greatest attribute.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Lou's still pulling the strings, man.
It’s a conspiracy.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Well lets just hope
that if GEO gets hurt they have a hotline to IOWA . However will beef get alot of time behind the plate ?
That's why I suggested yesterday that if they are to keep Hill...
…it would make sense to make him Z’s personal catcher. With Z’s bat in the lineup Hill wouldn’t be as much of a detriment.
While Z is a great hitter for a pitcher
he’s actually only a marginally better hitter than Koyie Hill, BigZ’s career OPS is .631, KHill’s career OPS is .578.
So when Hill is batting we basically have a pitcher batting in both the 8th and 9th spots in the lineup, so the guy batting in the 7th spot (most likely Soriano) isn’t going to see many strikes and since Soriano likes to chase pitches outside of the zone, games that KHill starts are going to be a lineup that goes 6 deep in terns of consistent offensive production and when you add the clusterf*ck at 2B, our lineup has only 5 guys that you can count on consistently for offense.
LOL, I think ARam is going to have a good year
and, while I view Kosuke as the best among a lot of bad choices, I’d be happy if Fuke can just do what he did last year (.800+ OPS).
At least Fuke has been decent and ARam has been a beast in the past. The only starter that I have 99.999% faith in is Castro. The Cubs are going to struggle immensely to score runs when KHill is starting……
That is the point I have been trying to make.
The lineup starting Soto will be a challenge to score consistently. Adding Hill 35-40 starts is brutal. Like mentioned, 2b is a mess offensively, so 7,8 and pitcher in the lineup is horrid. Hit “Z” 7th when Hill catches.
The argument that Hill making the roster is not a big deal, is crazy.
How ridiculously sad is it that Hill's career OPS is lower than a pitcher's?
and he’s coming into his third year with the same club.
MY GOD what the hell is wrong with this organization?
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
It's true
Despite all statistics this ST indicating Beef or MRAM are better than Hill, this decision was made months ago.
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Mar 25, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
See that's where I have the problem with Cubs
Silva / Cashner one can make an argument (granted a lame one but still make an argument) for Silva and why he’ll be the 5th starter.
How does an organization have a player do so well in ST and someone else struggle so much.
Yet the best product isn’t on the field.
If it was 10 million we were talking it’d be one thing but it’s less than a million dollars they’ve have to swollen. Which with this payroll is a drop in the bucket.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Backup catcher $
$875 for a backup is like 12 million for a starter, its all relative.
Hill was a lock back in December
The day they signed Hill to a 875K contract back in December was the day the door closed on Castillo, Ramirez, etc. Too bad. I fear Soto is going to wear down quickly this season. I love Soto, but management is opening up him to injury due to the impending necessity for him to catch 140+ games. I know Cubs brass would reather see Castillo get lots of playing time to be able to develop his skill in pitch calling and being a better “field general”, but I believe Castillo would be help the Cubs (and Soto) a bunch by catching 2 (or once in a while 3) games per week. 2 fresh catchers. Does this logic make sense to anyone else?
I wonder what Soto would say
if he was asked about Koyie Hill getting a spot over the other guys, and who he would prefer to take Hill’s place?
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Doubtful
Doubtful, pitchers may have been consulted though…
I'm getting the feeling I'm going to be a very negative BCBer in 2011.
This team isn’t good and the management is doing it wrong.
See:
$200,000,000 proposal
Samardzija
Hill
The only saving grace will be the influx of youngsters (sans the good ones we let go for a mediocre pitcher in the Tampa Bay trade) that hopefully won’t be screwed up by…management.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Mediocre?
More like top 10 in baseball. Hendry told me so.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Ugh.
Thank heavens I can minimize this.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd go to the store and buy some,
But this Isopropyl alcohol has left me blind. Alas.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Maybe I'm missing something here,
But what is the $200mil proposal?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you missed about a month.
Use the internet, Vermont person.
Try “Ricketts” and “TWO HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS”
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Ouch.
Please tell me no other baseball teams are dealing with that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Some guy Madoff with lots of their $$$.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Our baseball owner asked fans for $200,000,000.
Read more.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Well, that's what happens when the ballpark is crumbling.
The question is, where is the money going to come from if he gets it? Or, rather, if he doesn’t get it? I can’t see the Illinois Legislature being too thrilled about this.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, they have the money to fix the ballpark.
They’d just rather spend it building a shopping district next door.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Have you seen EASTBOUND AND DOWN?
I feel as if you’d appreciate it.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Hell yeah.
Although I thought the first season was way better than the second. At least they kept Stevie around.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
The more I watch season 2 the more I appreciate it.
The last 3 episodes are hysterical.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Yeah, I think I might rewatch it straight through this weekend.
I’d probably appreciate it more that way.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
It's only 7 eps.
And the first 3/4 eps are way better once you see the last 4/3. Makes a lot more sense.
Maybe I’m just a homer, but I can’t wait for S3.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Yep.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That's cool with me.
Nice when a show knows it’s limitations.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Yeah.
It’s going to be the most perfect of series, sans THE WIRE.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I still think Breaking Bad could give The Wire a run for its money.
But they’d need two more perfect seasons, which I don’t expect.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Are you me?
1 – THE WIRE
2 – BREAKING BAD
3 – THE SHIELD
THE WIRE is the best thing ever. It’s not the best television show, because it transcends television. 300 years from now the Smithsonian will be looking to THE WIRE for 21st century knowledge. BREAKING BAD is the only show that I know of that gets significantly better with each season. It’s a damn near perfect portrayal of middle-class struggles. And THE SHIELD is the best series finale of all-time.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Damn, I might be.
Nothing will ever top The Wire for many reasons, but specifically because of the scope of the show. I don’t know what I’d put as my #3, but I agree with you in regards to the Shield’s series finale. I’ve never seen a show wrapped up that well. If the first season was any indication, Terriers could’ve gotten up to #3 for me if it hadn’t been cancelled. So lame.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Terriers was great.
And since LIGHTS OUT was just cancelled, methinks it’ll wrap up just like Terriers.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
FNL has to be in there.
Friday Night Lights and The Wire have more in common than you’d think. Both ran 5 seasons and had a pre-determined endpoint. They are both pitch-perfect snapshots of a segment of millennial America.
There are moments in FNL that outshine even the best moments of The Wire.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 10:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's gonna take more than a goddam speak-n-spell...
….to get back in the good graces of Kenny f’n Powers.
Alongside 30Rock, its my favorite comedy of the last 5 years, and that is some TOUGH competition.
Although Archer is coming on really strong after the last 2 weeks. Good god that is funny.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 10:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think my head just started rolling down the street.
Tell me that’s not true.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I already did.
Get off me.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Just as long as I don’t jump on you.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
You've already managed that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think I started that one, did I, there, chief?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Nope.
Mea culpa. Sorry about that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright, so you've ended this game?
I can resume my normal activities?
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Yes, as long as I can, too.
Deal?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
There's no money coming in by building new locker rooms.
But a Chili’s Bar and Grill in the Triangle Building will make bank. There will be fajita platters sizzling EVERYWHERE.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And you’re from Vermont.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Thankfully,
That won’t be the case much longer. I’m actually moving away in a few months. Location, TBD.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Why the hate for Vermont?
I saw someone on TV say something nice about Vermont once. But I don’t remember what they said. And they might have not been talking about Vermont.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I can't hate on Vermont.
To be completely honest, I really enjoy the state. It’s been wonderful living here since mid-1998 (okay, except when we get these ridiculous 25-inch snowstorms). If I had more time to spend in the state, I’d welcome everyone on BCB here and show them around.
The move is not because of Vermont at all. There are other circumstances involved. If you email me at the address listed on my profile, I’ll tell you more. I’m not inclined to say everything here.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It's cool.
Things happen. Hope it all works out for you.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Thanks. :)
Since I’m not sure where I’m going, there might be a long time when I’m not around to post on BCB. And even when I get a place, I have no idea what my internet connection is going to be like.
I’ll try to check in on BCB once I get settled down after the move.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like you're ready to commit a crime...
… and then go to prison.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
LOL ... not quite.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:34 AM CDT up reply actions
This is late, but...
Flagged.
Where I’m from should not have any bearing on any part of the discussion, and does not and should not affect how you or anyone else views me.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Unflagged.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Whoops,
dtpollitt’s comment is unflagged.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Where I live,we got hit up for $500,000,000 to build a stadium for an NFL team that is worth $5.98
So the Ricketts seem like small timers compared to the Browns (the family that gave nepotism a bad name).
ESPN radio here in Seattle was reporting this afternoon
that the Cubs had shopped Silva but had found no team willing to trade anything for him, and that he’s headed to the bullpen. They reported it like they had a source for this but it’s gotta be speculation, right? Would they put him in the pen instead of just releasing him?
I thought that the Yankees would get him, but I saw that
they had signed Millwood earlier today…sigh…
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Good long man
He would be a decent spot for him. Only question for the Cubs is, do they bury him in the long role, or do they attempt to develop someone from within the organization, an “up and comer” type?
The Cubs haven't had an actual "long reliever"...
… in several years. Mike Quade would have to do something quite different than Lou Piniella to actually accomplish this.
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Was Jon Lieber a "long reliever" in 2008?
Before he got shut down by that phantom injury?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly, he was, yes.
He made 25 relief appearances in 2008. Exactly five of them were longer than two innings. I don’t consider that “long reliever”.
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Agree
I agree, its been long reliever by committee in recent years. Only question now is, again, is this what is best, that is, to have a dedicated long reliever in Silva, rather than take a bullpen spot from an “up and comer” from within the organization? Certainly a question if the contract is an issue in play too?
It seems like Hill has the job
I still i dont see how anybody could have such a terrible spring and get the job. They had no problem demoting Dewitt for his offense and defense.
It’s because he’s white and “plays good defense” and is “gritty”.
I’m serious.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
how did you come up with that answer?
I don’t think race is an issue here.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright, then explain to me why Koyie Hill deserved and received a raise.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Handles the pitchers
Right or wrong (and I definitely believe wrong), he handles the pitching staff well and calls a better game than most.
Then send him to the minors and make him a catching coach.
His playing days are behind him.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
but the things that obviously make a difference to the Cubs
are things he could do as coach and not waste a roster spot.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Business is Business, it's not personal...
…just release Hill. If he has a desire to coach fine but it’s pure speculation on out part that he would be a good one.
I agree
But the Cubs seemed obsessed with these skills and they don’t want obviously doesn’t want to part with him.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs need to be like Geoge Costanza....
….and learn to do the opposite of every impulse they may have.
"Deserved"?
No.
Received? Because he was arb-eligible and was likely to get a LARGER raise in arb, since those are generally based on service time, not performance.
Now, you can reasonably say that the Cubs shouldn’t have kept him. But since they made that decision, the money they are paying him is probably LESS than they would have had to pay him through arb.
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If they are likely to eat Silva's contract
then why not eat 875K? That would taste a lot better than Silva’s? It just doesn’t make sense to not care to give up so much $ for one person, but when it’s a lesser amount to give up you don’t do it. I didn’t know if anyone had an answer for that?
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Al that's where you should be questioning the decision making of...
….Hendry. Your looking at both sides of the coin instead of just saying that is was a stupid decision to keep Hill. It’s okay you can say it.
I have questioned this decision.
I said it earlier this week. I was just explaining the reasoning behind the money given.
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I'll be honest with you
I don’t know, but if it’s because he’s white then I have been rooting for the wrong team for a long time. There has got to be a reason he’s getting the spot, but that seems to be the million dollar question. Whatever happens I believe Hendry will find out pretty quick he made a terrible mistake.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe race has anything to do with this decision.
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It doesn't.
Being a bad baseball player transcends race.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Mar 25, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As I said above
If race had been an issue, I have been rooting for the wrong team this whole time.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe you're not a regular here...
…but I’ve been bitching (along with another BCBer) about how stupid this raise for Hill is since it happened. Al hasn’t recognized how representative it is of the management, the ownership, and the general direction of the team. I was making a broad generalization because Koyie Hill sucks balls so much the raise only has to be because (1) he’s white (2) he plays good defense or (3) he’s gritty.
Fin
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I see what you're saying
obviously I do not think that race is an issue. When I said that if it had been an issue that I have been rooting for the wrong team, I was simply exagerating. I would be crazy to think that race has to do with anything that ties into winning games. I know that, you know that, everyone knows that. I would also be crazy to put the Chicago Cubs in that category or any other MLB team. That is just erroneous on all levels.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not because he's white.
It was a joke. BRING UP RACE—and everything’s less funny.
KOYIE HILL: good story, shitty ball player.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Wow!!! Another race issue!!!
Koyie Hill sucks
Fernando Perez Sucks
Koske Fukudome Sucks
Alfonso Soriano Sucks
Feel Better, Milton?
Hill is here because Hendry Sucks….That is all!
by TJ11 on Mar 25, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
recommended
its not a race issue, the Cubs are equal opportunity when it comes to having players that suck
by magicblue on Mar 25, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd TJ
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Green'ed.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If you think I was serious...you're missing the point.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Reading sarcasm and non-verbals on the internet is hard.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
⸮
Can you explain this for me⸮⸮⸮⸮
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm 90% certain you're mocking my mocking...
…yet the people recommending you don’t get it.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Perhaps I don't get it.
That being said, in the instances when you are serious and the times when you mock someone, the language you use is extremely similar.
So unless you can give us forewarning, there is almost no way to tell whether or not you are mocking someone. Note that you said “I’m serious” in both comments. Unless we know for sure which is which, how are we supposed to know what is serious and what is you mocking someone/something?
And please don’t jump on me for this.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If I answered your question seriously, you'd be upstairs crying in your mother's arms. So I'll just post this.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Even if you answered it seriously,
You would never get that reaction out of me.
So let’s just agree to disagree on this point and leave it at that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he was just suggesting that you care about your family.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I always do.
In fact, I emailed multiple family members earlier tonight.
That being said, I’m a little tougher than most think. He’s talking to somebody who didn’t bat an eye when he received death threats about a year ago.
True story. But one best not told here.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I rec'd this because it contained the phrase "Hendry Sucks"
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
That's a terrible assertion
based upon nothing but meanness.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
by tharr on Mar 25, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Cubs are 3-0 since I have been at the games.
Alas I can’t go tomorrow. Off to pool. Luckily not much time on internet today. I did get
a practice ball while standing outside. Fitch and had a few words with Fernando Perez who fielding, but I could not see who hit it.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
1-0 for me!
And since I won’t be attending any more ST games, I will finish the 2011 preseason undefeated. I freakin’ rock, yo
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Mar 25, 2011 8:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice meeting you today
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 25, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice to see you today.
And maybe we need to save your presence for important regular season games, too.
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Ill just say for the record
Cubs are 4-0 when ive been at games. Last 2 were very close wins against twins in 09 and cardinals in 09.
So i guess im gonna have to find some tickets if the Cubs have any chance of winning the division.
I am very excited about this year
I know everyone is kind of upset about Hill and the backup catcher role. I am pissed off as well, but it’s not worth making this whole deal overshadow this team and how hard they have worked. Not only am I mad about the Hill issue but there are other things I am upset about with the 2011 team. We’ve got to remember that, while these are things that get us pissed off, these are issues that we’ve just got to get over, especially before the season starts or it will be a very long year.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure the Pirates work hard, too.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Everyone works hard, some harder than others
every person out there is working for a roster spot. There reputation depends on it, and they’re livelihood depends on it. I’m sure Koyie Hill doesn’t want to suck. I’ve never met a person who doesn’t want to do well at anything. He probably feels an inch tall since the spring began. I just don’t see it being profitable to “dog” a person out and let it overshadow the rest of the team and what they have been doing. IMHO the team has done alot better since trimming the fat and reducing the roster. Alot of the crappy play I’ve seen this year has come from guys who are not on the final roster, or never even had a shot to be on it.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It should read
their reputation and their livelihood, my mistake.
by alabamacubbie on Mar 25, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you sure that Mateo was cut?
I’ve read different statements (dark horse, in the mix, etc vs. cut)
Silva and Russell and Shark, oh my!
Silva and Russell and Shark, oh my!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 25, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Coleman wouldn't be the 12th man in the pen
He would certainly be better than Samardzjia and Grabow.
I'd rather see Coleman start.
He was much better as a starter last year than in relief.
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To do that he would have to get his starts in the minors...
…I would rather see Cashner in the 5th spot.
Castro looks fantastic at the plate, excited to see him over full season
With regards to Hill, the Cubs hopefully will not evaluate the decision in a vacuum. If we had the lineup of say the Red Sox or White Sox I’d say ok, if Hill has to catch once every six games we will still score runs. But the Cubs offense is going to need ALL the help it can get, and I find it hard to believe Hill defensively and from a pitch calling perspective is so vastly superior to Wellington that it justifies the move.
As for the argument of I’m sure we will get if Wellington is sent down that he will get more AB, last I checked the beginning of the season should be about putting the best MAJOR LEAGUE team on the field to contend.
875K in December
I agree, but whether we all like it or not (we don’t), the day Mr. Hendry signed Mr. Hill to a 875K contract this winter was the day the competition ended. Mr. Hendry panicked too early about his backup catcher prospects and didn’t expect Beef to develop and Hill to continue to slide. Poor forsight and a decision the Cubs must make the best of now. Maybe Hill will get better???
Hill is here because it would be another black eye to Jim Hendry otherwise!!!
Tom Ricketts approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!
right, somehow
this organization couldn’t even win a championship when it had 3 future HOFs (Jenkins/Williams/Banks) and another who should be in the HOF (Santo).
I believe the Cubs will eventually win another WS title, but i believe that it will be a totally unexpected thing, some fluke season where all the pundits write us off and we just go on run to make the playoffs and stay hot in the WS ala 2005 WSox……
Championship?
They couldn’t even win the division.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Can't we just play ball already?
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 25, 2011 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
Well, Al, I think your initial point
has been proven in spades.
It would be pretty hilarious if it weren’t so utterly pathetic.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
Weird.
It would be pretty hilarious if it weren’t so utterly pathetic.
That’s how I feel about this team.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
And the season won't open for another week
Can’t wait to see what you’ll be like in July. Hope I won’t get that chance, because you’ll find some other place to wail 24/7.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
Instead I’ll be like you and criticize everyone who thinks this team won’t be any good (like last year), and then when I’m proven wrong I’ll…wait until next year to criticize everyone again?
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Neither one of us really knows what this season will hold
If you do, you should be a millionaire.
But life is too short to bitch constantly, isn’t it?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither one of us does, sure.
But are you honestly happy with the direction of this organization? Things really haven’t been looking all that hot, and not just on the field.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I honestly don't know
I assume that if this is another bad season, there will be changes.
Sometimes I also don’t think all the change in the world will make a bit of difference. Depends on the day. :)
I’d rather enjoy baseball returning and the feeling of going to a game and having a good time, rather than work myself into a lather complaining about backup catchers, for Christ’s sake.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sure, you can look at that way.
That’s the way you prefer to operate. Others look at it on a larger scale, and don’t see why the current regime is getting another chance. I dunno. I don’t see the need to criticize others in the process.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I dont think anyone should even ask Hendry and Quade about Hill being on the roster!!!!
We should just trust their judgement!!!
I know me and NOT Bruce do completely!!!!
Fair enough, but
day after day of the same old crap and the same old complaints really doesn’t shed much light on the situation. Particularly before any games are played.
Sometimes I think Cubs fans are the most neurotic bunch in sports. But nobody owes them a World Series, no more than Nationals fans.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
They've never seen their team win anything
Not even a division.
Seattle’s never won a World Series, either.
Fans all over the country tire pretty easly about the Cubs fans’ martyr complex, trust me.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Your right, we need to worry more what fans in Seattle think of us!!!!
Always thinking NOT Bruce!!!!!
What Martyr complex?
We’re sick of crappy baseball. Do you know what a martyr is?
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
by BoVandy on Mar 26, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think anyone is owed anything.
But when a team has the highest payroll in the NL and puts a mediocre product on the field, well, it’s very frustrating.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
That's the beauty of sports
Sometimes the unexpected happens, and sometimes the expected doesn’t.
Hendry made a lot of good moves from 2003-08 that should have resulted in a championship but didn’t. He made a lot of defensible moves in 2009-10 that blew up in his face.
Didn’t all the “experts” pick the Cubs to win the division in 2009? How did that work out?
I still think the history of this franchise might be too much for anybody to overcome, but I hope I’m wrong.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it wasn't
But 2007-08 were great.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And it's been downhill since then.
I dunno, I think this organization just needs a major overhaul.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Well, if this season is lost,
I suspect we’ll get it.
Meanwhile, I can’t wait until opening day. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, enjoy your time at the park this year.
Maybe you’ll even run into TJ.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
You, too
I hear TJ is going to wear a huge exclamation point over his head every time he goes to Wrigley this season.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything is "defensible", if you're willing to ignore reality.
Hendry’s 2008-09 offseason was indefensible. And you have continued to defend it for literally YEARS.
At some point, a rational human being has to admit that the critics of that offseason were correct.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Me and NOT Bruce know this team is going to be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
122 wins Right NBF!!!!
Hill will lead us to victory!!!!
I really think it's gone beyond simple humor
TJ has some sort of mental illness, I fear — other than being a Cubs fan, I mean.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon, Bruce.
TJ’s just an admirer of yours. It’s a compliment, really.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Left-handed compliments, perhaps
I’m sure if we ever met in person, we’d be buds. Or enemies. Or something. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd probably at least buy you a beer.
Or drown you in Kool-Aid. One or the other.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I s'pose I should just leave you two alone then...
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Please don't
Someone’s got to save me from him … :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't I be the one
who drowns him in Kool-Aid? ;-)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You're working on three straight years of being wrong 100% of the time.
But no, it’s the people who correctly assess this organization who are in the wrong.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You say a lot of idiotic things.
I’ll be nice and leave it at that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
About all the angst and drama
regarding a backup catcher.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, that.
I must say, all the back and forth you have had with various people here has been highly entertaining.
Nevertheless, as you know, I tend to agree with you. While this team has flaws, not one meaningful game has been played yet. Let’s see how it plays out.
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Highly entertaining, perhaps,
but highly exhausting. :-)
I"m ready for some real games.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
And then, when the real games are played, you can ignore THOSE results!
Just like 2009 and 2010!
It’s only May!
It’s not even the all star break!
I don’t give up until we are mathematically eliminated!
This was somehow everyone’s fault but Hendry’s!
Can’t you guys wait until Hendry’s offseason is over before you start bitching?
It’s only May!
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 10:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Me too.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Hill can't possibly be close enough in service time to qualify for pension...
…that Hendry would be doing his “player’s GM” thing to get Hill those necessary days, would he?
I’m grasping for straws here…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
He's already qualified
A player has to spend 43 days on a team roster to qualify for a full pension and just one day for full medical. Retirement age, or the age they can get the full benefits, is 62.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Then the only thing I can think of is... pictures.
Riot must have left Hill his set of pictures.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
You mean...
… the official Neifi Perez Memorial Photo Collection?
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That's the one!
Memorial is a bit premature though. I believe Neifi is alive and well, living the life of ease and luxury thanks to all the money he made off selling copies of those photos to various teammates over the years.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Yep - just accepted.
I didn’t think there was going to be a league this year or worse yet – there was going to be a league but you just weren’t going to tell me about it… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
You played flawlessly last year,
and kicked my butt. And you are always welcome to join any league I’m apart of :-)
Maybe next year is finally our year.
Fabulous day in Mesa today!
Beautiful day and it was really cool talking baseball w/ Jessica and Al! Can’t believe the season is finally here. Go Cubs!
"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana
by calicubfan on Mar 25, 2011 10:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wow
300 posts and probably 260 of em are wailing and gnashing of teeth about a backup catcher and how this team sucks. What everyone is failing to see is that the NL Central is falling apart around us…Buster Olney tweeted that the Reds now have 3 SP who are injured…
There’s hope!
Sometimes stuff happens
when you least expect it.
I’m not sayin’, but I’m just sayin’.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 25, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe some here don't believe that.
But I do.
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Quite a few things have to go correctly
for the Cubs to compete. Some of them already have.
Astros Barmes out 4-6 weeks
Per Alyson Footer on Astros Tweet
Sounds like the Baseball Gods are returning some favors
Cubs have had very few injuries, if any.
Of course you do. If you didn't you'd actually have to admit that Hendry is an awful GM
and that won’t EVER happen.
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
About the same time you'll ever say anything positive.
Hasn’t happened yet and I don’t expect it to.
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When people start getting that negative and strident....
…. it’s helpful to look at their backgrounds and see what qualifies them to make such assessments. It’s one thing not to like him and be frustrated with the team’s play, it’s another to go the next step and be so judgmental as many have here. Just as professional players are not “bad at baseball”, Hendry is doing a better job at being a GM better than anyone one on this board could possibly do. It’s somewhat shallow then, charitably put, to come off as some sort of expert on the subject. I have not spoken to one person previously employed or presently employed in professional baseball who shares the sentment about Hendry expressed by some here. I have infinitely more respect for their judgment than any poster on an Internet site.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Hah, I'll bet money that I could be a better GM than Jim Hendry has been the last few years
I would have started by not signing Soriano, Fukudome, AMiles, Bradley, Gathwright, Grabow, Shark. I’m leaning towards now believing that we also shouldn’t have traded for Garza. I wouldn’t have traded DeRosa either. I also would have DFAed Koyie Hill 2 years ago.
Since I wouldn’t have signed Fuke, Soriano, and Bradley, I would have had money to be all in on Matt Holliday, Sabathia, Carl Crawford, or countless other FAs that would have been better than the ones Hendry has signed or would have allowed us the possible payroll flexibility to have acquired Zach Greinke or another TOR starter. I also would have used some of the savings from the crappy FA signings and spent more on the draft and interantional FA market.
I could literally go on and on and on about how I would be a better GM than Hendry is. And I bet that a lot of other BCB posters could be better GMs than Jim Hendry…..
This must be some sort of parody
to illustrate the difference between being a fantasy GM and a real GM.
The Internet is an interesting place.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Hah again
Each one of those Hendry moves were terrible, absolutely terrible and each of the players I listed in the 2nd paragraph are literally better than any single player on the Cubs 2011 roster and could have been had if the Cubs wouldn’t have made said moves in the 1st paragraph.
I challenge any one of you to prove me wrong. Tell me how signing Soriano was better than waiting and signing a better player in Matt Holliday (for less money), tell me how resigning Demp was better than signing Sabathia, I could go on and on and on.
I don’t think there are many people on here who would disagree with me that Jim Hendry has done a pretty terrible job recently of signing high dollar FAs.
And your right NBF, the internet is an interesting place, it’s full of funny Cubs fans like yourself, LOL….
What a crock. No ther way to put it.
If I was Presdient Kennedy I would have known enough not to go to Dallas. Utter nonsense.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
I'd also proofread more often
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
Did somebody say "poster on an internet site"?

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by ballhawk on Mar 26, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oldie, but
still a darned goodie.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Carrie just tweeted
Cashner to be 5th starter and Mateo to the pin and they told Silva he is going to the minors if they can’t trade him.
http://twitter.com/#!/carriemuskat

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