Chicago Cubs vs. Texas Rangers Preview, Saturday 3/26, 3:05 CT: Fifth Starter Decision Time
by Al Yellon on Mar 26, 2011 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintSCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- According to several reports including this one in today's Sun-Times, the Cubs may announce who the fifth starter will be even before Andrew Cashner takes the mound in Surprise against the Rangers this afternoon. This preview is being written several hours before game time, so by the time it posts at 1 p.m. CDT, we may know that Cashner has been selected. That likely would be the best choice for the team, even though Cashner could also do a good job in relief. What happens to Carlos Silva if Cashner gets the job? Reports yesterday said the Cubs were going to release him and eat the $7.5 million they still owe him ($5.5 million from his deal this year, and a $2 million buyout for next year). Silva seems ill-suited to bullpen duty and there are other candidates (Jeff Stevens, Marcos Mateo and even Casey Coleman, though Coleman seems better-suited to starting every fifth day at Iowa) who could be better bullpen choices. Coleman, in fact, will get his chance to show what he's got this afternoon, after Cashner. Sean Marshall and Kerry Wood are also on today's list of scheduled pitchers.
The Rangers counter this afternoon with lefthander C.J. Wilson. He'll be followed by Mark Lowe, Arthur Rhodes (yes, he's still around at age 41, after having a good year for the Reds last year) and Alexi Ogando, who is still a possibility for the Rangers rotation. Complete lineups after the jump.
Cubs lineup:
Johnson LF Barney SS Byrd CF Soto C Pena 1B M Smith 3B Fukudome RF DeWitt 2B Cashner P
That's Marquez Smith at third today, getting a late-spring start before he'll start the season at Iowa.
At the time I had to leave for the game, the Rangers lineup had not yet been posted. So, if anyone can find it, post it in the comments.
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he has a whole lot of nuthin!!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
YES!!!
The Silva era is over!
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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was it an ERA....how about episode or short story or soon to be forgotten chapter
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I think that post title was cut off.
“the Silva ERA is over 8.00!”
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 3:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
And here I thought when Wells gave up 3 runs early in yesterday's game..
Silva had moved up to #4 in the rotation.
Good riddance to the last vestige of (NAME REDACTED).
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Mar 26, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is the best decision...
but I won’t forget Silva going 8-0 to start the season last year. The dude should have been an All-Star…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
huzzah!
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
by jasperthepilot on Mar 26, 2011 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's great!
I think it’s the best decision they could make.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What happens to Silva? AAA? Released?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Sounds like time to eat the money, to me.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Wow...I never thought Hendry had the balls
to make this move. Nice…….
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Mar 26, 2011 1:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
huervos is the word
and maybe it was Quade
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I believe
that Hendry makes the call with Quade’s input.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 26, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the move. There's really nothing to criticize.
And having Coleman in Iowa as insurance is also preferable over Silva, given his immediate rupture with management.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
And not to mention ...
that at some point this season, Jackson, Carpenter, and McNutt may be viable major leaguer options as well.
It will be interesting to see what’s done with starting pitching over the next year or so.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 26, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree Jose.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Refreshing
The team recognized a sunk cost and made a decision with the future in mind. I’d have been okay with either of two options: Cashner in the MLB rotation or Cashner in the AAA rotation. Glad that the Cubs are going to give Cashner a chance to be a starter.
The team may or may not be decent this year, but at least there will be some interesting story lines to follow (development of Castro, Colvin, Cashner, Wells, etc).
If the Cubs try to
sneak Silva through the waiver wire, would said waiver wire get forever clogged?
by timh815 on Mar 26, 2011 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Nice
Rec’d as well
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn,
I have to wait until I get home so I can rec this. Is it green yet?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope only 2 recs
"No enemy is more dangerous, than the enemy that has nothing to lose." Mark Grace
by GateCity, VA Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's green now.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW IM STUNNED..
Tell me somehow I’m not dreaming..
you're not dreaming.
Screw the haters. It's Cutler time.
by lexmarklover on Mar 26, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Purke, potential pick at nine
Streaming free and legal. http://gofrogs.cstv.com/allaccess/?media=225974
Screen on the feed went away.
Anyone who remembers Dave McNally or Mike Flanagan from the Orioles has an idea of Purke’s motion. He breezed through the first, but was really rattled in the second.
Very similar to the two lefties I mentioned, except he can throw a heater at 95 instead of their 91 or 92. Changes speeds rather well. Has a modified “Dempster Waggle” and is still tight with Cashner.
Silva's reaction was so professional,
NOT, it shows other teams that may consider picking him up off waivers what he really is, not that there was any mystery to this. He complains about not getting a chance? They kept trotting him out there after he clearly was not ready. Good riddance, sayonara Silva,
Ah They've updated the story
Since I read it earlier & responded to cavebears post. That makes Silva look like a real jerk where he says its was a competition & then says it wasnt.
Agreed
I don’t want any players on this team that won’t do what it takes to win a WS. He had his chances, and he blew it. Goodbye Silva, don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.
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This looks like
An pretty weak lineup! I hope Cashner has a great game.
by bleedinblue76 on Mar 26, 2011 2:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Is Barney the starting 2bman too?
I’m listening to Hub Arkush on the Score and he seems to be saying just that.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 26, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions
Mason Tobin to work today
You’re last chance to say “Oooooh, we should have kept him.”
Rule 5 pick sold to Texas.
Halelujah!!!
Wow, I didn’t ever think the Cubs & Hendry would have the courage to make a decision like this. That is a GREAT move. As in any good organization, clean out the cancers and encourage & excite the good ones.
OK but is Hill still backing up Geo?
by stuartscottslefteye on Mar 26, 2011 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
THAT will be the barometer re: whether Hendry has balls
by stuartscottslefteye on Mar 26, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I shouldn't say that has anything to do with Hendry
but more with the coaching staff
by stuartscottslefteye on Mar 26, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill will be backup
Unfortunately he will. But he shouldn’t last long I would think.
Bruce Levine keeps confirming
that Hill will be the backup catcher. It comes back down to his ability to call a game. My guess is also that the Cubs mindset is to have a veteran backup catcher rather than go with a younger guy. They’d rather have the younger guys get their playing time in the minors rather than the majors.
If Soto gets injured, I doubt that Hill becomes the starter. At that point, either Ramirez or Castillo would be called up to do that.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 26, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They will lose Ramirez through waivers,
he is better than a third of the backup catchers AND has upside, dumb move if they don’t keep him.
That's a pretty reasoned, clear-thinking argument, jerry
That might get you into trouble around here with some people. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My goodness
you are obnoxious. Can you make a comment here without including an insult?
DEJESUS!!!
by tomas21 on Mar 26, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
No....he can't
but he’ll next claim its OUR fault he’s an obnoxious ass.
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
by BoVandy on Mar 26, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
MaxRam won't get any time
if on the DL. If the waiver game is played, he’ll get plenty of time in YewSten
Stop making sense!
And not in a Talking Heads kinda way
by stuartscottslefteye on Mar 26, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You're saying Ramirez
would clear waivers? Or that you don’t value him?
Someone explain to me what is meant when it's said...
“he calls a good game”. Calling a good game is NOT going to get that runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs. It’s NOT gonna keep that opposing base runner from stealing 2nd…or 3rd. I know it’s JUST the backup catcher, but, come on…1-38. That’s hard to do…even if you TRY to.
"The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it." - Casey Stengal
Not sure why are you trying to combine the two.
We all know Hill sucks as a hitter. Not sure anyone is disputing that. But the idea that some catchers “call a better game” than others isn’t a myth. Not to mention how comfortable the pitchers feels with a catcher. So if the staff prefers Hill, I’m okay with that.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
yes, I'm good with giving the other team 3 automatic outs also!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Okay Hill had 200 some at bats last year.
So if Hill hits .200 vs. Max/Beef at .250, you’re looking at a difference of 10 hits. If the pitchers are more comfortable with Hill, then I’m okay with losing 10 hits.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
hahaha! you suggest Hill will hit .200
that is totally:
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Career...
….215 hitter. But my greater point still stands. Lets say he hits .150, that’s a difference of 20 hits.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I understand what you are saying but disagree
I do not agree with “giving” hits away. Sure, Hill will miraculously get a couple of hits, nobody can suck this bad all the time. But I don’t see him getting better. If the argument is that the kids need to get their at-bats in, doesn’t the same apply for veterans who already cannot hit ala Mr. Hill?
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Of course you don't want to give away hits.
That goes without saying. Just saying I can understand if the Cubs management are thinking “the net gain of keeping our pitching staff comfortable means losing offensive production” I’m okay with that because in the end, backup catchers don’t mean jack.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Koyie "not worth Jack" Hill
I like it!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Whose word do we have
for the conclusion that the pitchers are much more comfortable with Hill? And what evidence has there been that he calls a better game? Has any pitcher said Castillo calls a lousy game?
We can prove Hill is a terrible hitter. We can prove that he threw out only 18% of runners last year. We also can prove that he costs a lot more than Castillo.
Sentimentality has no place when building a winning organization.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
by tharr on Mar 26, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard it from the players/managers themselves...
…at the convention.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
So they said
they’d rather Hill was the catcher over Castillo? What did they mention was Beef’s shortcomings?
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Someone said...
…(and I’m paraphrasing) “why did Koyie Hill get resigned?” and the response was, “he works well with the pitching staff.”
If you were sitting there, you would have been convinced that the staff really likes him.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Not to be argumentative
but that was a statement about one of their own. Have you ever heard a comment that a particular wasn’t a good guy? It didn’t assert that Castillo didn’t work well with the pitching staff.
IMHO, the comment of one player or coach which was complimentary to one of his partners hardly justifies the many factual shortcomings that Hill carries.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
I'm assuming Cubs management...
…is listening to the Cubs pitching staff as a whole.
Let me repeat, I could care less if it’s Max/Hill/Beef. If, under the aforementioned assumption, I’m okay with Hill staying.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
20 hit could be 2-5 additional runs
which could mean an extra win, or two. Anyone know what his pitcher’s ERA was last year when he caught?
Plus, a backup catcher is a bench bat as well. Who do you want coming up in 8th or 9th to try to spark something?
by Don't Fear the Reaper on Mar 26, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Koyie.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
wait a minute
are you crazy talking sayin’ Hill would be called upon in a late inning pressure situation to swing the bat and hit the ball? You sir need to be sent off for a drug test
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
ofcourse not
that’s aaron miles’ job
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Mar 26, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well,
I’d hope the “staff” would be more comfortable with a guy who can produce BOTH offensively and defensively. He can’t throw runners out…he can’t hit…but, he puts down the right finger (which usually comes from the dugout AND has to be OK’d by the guy on the mound)) and that’s all he needs to do? Incredible.
"The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it." - Casey Stengal
He's one season removed from throwing out 40% of runners.
Again I’m not arguing Hill should be the guy. My greater point is that 1 backup catchers don’t matter and 2 I’ll defer my opinion to the guys actually playing. If the pitchers like Hill, then I’m fine with it because of point 1.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
He's two seasons removed from throwing out 14% of runners
Hill has averaged over 250 plate appearances the past two seasons. That matters to me, particularly when that players is clearly getting much worse.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
But it looks like the pitchers are
comfortable with Hill. I don’t especially want HIll either but I don’t pitch on this team and I don’t really know what he does that the pitchers do like.
He’s going to be on the team and no amount of whining and bitching is going to change that.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Yep, :(
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This "call a good game" thing
bothers me.
First, a lot of catcher get signs from the dugout, so even if Castillo/Ramirez have no concept how how to call a game, there is precedent for the pitching coach calling the signs in.
Second, the pitching coach can develop a game plan before games for each of the hitters.
Third, the pitchers can shake off signs if they aren’t good ideas.
Fourth, Hill will likely be historically bad at the plate this year, and is bad defensively. He’s have to call one whale of a game to make up for those shortcomings.
Fifth, when people say Hill call’s a good game, it sounds like that impression is made up of a lot of recall bias. I seriously doubt this front office has studied the difference in outcomes among different pitchers. So they just feel like he calls a better game, which could be true or not true. I strongly doubt the difference in how well Hill calls a game vs the other guys is worth enough (if it’s worth anything at all), to make up for Hill’s horrendouse offense and bad defense.
Sixth, having a horrible backup catcher means you’re going to rely on your primary catcher to play more games. I’m not sure that’s a good idea. We want Geo to play as many seasons as he can. If that means 130 games for 10 years instead of 150 games for 7 years, I’ll take the 10 year career, especially if the backup is as competent as Castillo appears to be, or offers the roster flexibility that Ramirez offers.
Last, if you need to keep a player on the roster whose only value lies in mentoring the starter, then you’ve done a piss-poor job of not only roster evaluation, but selecting your coaching staff.
DEJESUS!!!
These are all great points
I’m not trying to say that I was hoping for Hill to be the backup. However, I do think that Castillo needs playing time and not bench time even if that bench time is at the major league level. Max Ramirez is or is going to be on the DL.
However, there is more than just “calling the game”. There’s also a lot of working with the staff. That’s not all done by the pitching and bullpen coach.
Honestly, I can’t improve upon what Cubswynn wrote:
Backup catchers are backup catchers.
It’s extremely rare to have one that truly makes an impact. If the Cubs pitching staff feel more comfortable with Hill, than it’ll be a net gain of what the team loses in offensive numbers. But in the end, the role of backup catcher won’t make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 26, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
This is fine
I could have lived with Silva at No. 5 (on a short leash) and Cashner in AAA, but this will be good as well, and perhaps better down the road. SouthernCub’s take on it is about right, I think.
Wonder what the Hendry-always-is-wrong chorus will think. They’re probably too busy burning Hill in effigy to notice. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I actually think this is a better move than having Silva on a short leash.
The main benefit being that many of us were concerned about Silva’s tendency to give up BP fly balls during the game. I just hope Cashner is ready for the starting pitcher’s job, it’s an entirely new animal compared to the AAA level.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point, VCF
He’s at No. 5, so it’s not like there’s much pressure on him.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
He just has to go out there every fifth day and get us through the game.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, everyone knows
that being in the Cubs rotation brings no pressure. Marquis, Rusch, Ohman, Wuertz Hill and numerous others can attest to that.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
"There's not much pressure"
and “no pressure” aren’t the same thing. (When were Ohman and Wuertz in the rotation?)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
go back into the BCB archives to see the discussion over the years of our 5th starters. Everyone who goes to the mound has significant pressure on them. Hell, we’re going to war over our backup catcher.
And my apology. Neither Wuertz nor Ohman started for us. However, they both were amidst much pressure during their stint in Chicago and they were only relievers.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
'From bad to Wuertz'? Remember that?
And then I’ll bet many of those same folks were raking Hendry over the coals last season for letting him go.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 26, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I still think it would have been smart to at least give him a chance in the regular season. But I don’t really care either way.
As for the Hendry bashing, some is warranted but I do think its overblown.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Hendry bashing is overblown
Consider the alternatives to Hendry. Over the years, the majority of his decisions have been good.
Not sure I would say the majority.
The mistakes he’s made are over paying guys and giving them too many years. But when you have the payroll the Cubs do, you can take those risks. It comes with the territory.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
You take the risks only
if you have an unlimited budget in future years. Look at all the limitations the team has because of salary commitments.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
That's just not accurate.
He’s made some great “big” trades, especially early on. His only proven “bad” trade was for Pierre. He’s also made a boatload of very poor roster decisions. If we are talking sheer numbers of moves, the “bad” side outweighs the good.
Even if we look past the major missteps, there are just too many Neifis, Maciases, Burnitzes, Bynums, Hairstons, Mileses, LaTroys, Jacques, Hollandsworths, Bakos, Barretts, and Mabrys clogging up the roster over the years. There were the annual $4M relief arms. The inexplicable lack of MLB position players in a decade of drafts.
You can say that the trades for Aramis and Derrek outweigh the bad moves, but you can’t say that they outnumber the bad moves.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 3:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Got a question...
If they release Silva and someone picks him up, are the Cubs still on the hook for the $2M buyout for next year? I know they are for this year…minus the $400K minimum…just wondering about next year.
"The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it." - Casey Stengal
I think
once the Cubs cut him, the buyout is executed. Anything that happens after that is irrelevant.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 26, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Please let Hendry cut Hill.
Not that it matters, I just don’t want to hear the bitching all year.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
And the booing
Someone give Hill some earplugs for April in Wrigley…
Backup catchers are backup catchers.
It’s extremely rare to have one that truly makes an impact. If the Cubs pitching staff feel more comfortable with Hill, than it’ll be a net gain of what the team loses in offensive numbers. But in the end, the role of backup catcher won’t make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Koyie had
the 9th most PAs in 2009 and 11th most last year. That’s hardly insignificant. Particularly in a division without a clear favorite and a projected 85 win season for the champion, every little bit makes a difference. Teams who are not dominant cannot afford to give away any edge by assuming it is meaningless.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Going to be devil's advocate here
I think they should’ve handed the ball to Silva for at least the 1st few games. If indeed they eat that contract, it’s a classic case of Hendry not extracting value where it can be found. Guy has a propensity to jump up and perform when you least expect it. yes, I know the baggage the the history and the classless response. But Hendry pulled the trigger on Gorzellany too fast and now they expect Cash to go to 180+ ML innings this year? He’s definitely going to have some struggles. If Spellcheck is starting games for us in May, we’re in trouble.
by SouthWabashSoul on Mar 26, 2011 3:04 PM CDT reply actions
Jump up when you least expect it?
Any GM making decisions on what you “least expect” shouldn’t be a MLB GM.
Good point
That’s a good point you make, but most teams are locked with their pitching staffs for a while to begin the season. They usually don’t look to trade until much further into the season, so the Cubs would have had to stick with Silva for a while. I think they decided to do this to start fresh and begin a new chapter to try to develop one of their premier young pitchers.
got to think Hendry has a couple of teams actually bidding
The game of chicken is on….place on waivers and the two teams on the low end might not get Silva….or another player that not performing….
example NYY’s, Cubs send Silva and take Russell Martin and also send K Hill
Yanks owe Martin $5.5 M….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Um I don't think Hill is getting traded anywhere.
But your greater point regarding the Silva trade was my first thought. Even if the Cubs ate all but $1M, I’d be thrilled.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
merely giving an example but Yanks are not happy with Martin
but something like this could elicit a bigger deal around Silva and Martin, possibly Castillo or Ramirez instead of Hill where Yanks send Martin and a top prospect in an area Cubs need.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Martin was signed as a FA. Doesn't that mean no trade until 6-15?
I thought that was in the CBA- free agent signings, even if it’s your own guy who accepted arb, can’t be traded until June 15.
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by D98 on Mar 26, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It came up in a recent Lilly trade discussion.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
Gotcha.
I was being sincere with that comment, in case you took it the wrong way.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I agree, but not too many people do
I would have let Silva have a couple of starts and have Cashner start in Iowa. Not much to lose but
a LOT to gain. I doubt Silva will be claimed. I suspect the Yankees will give him in minor league deal when he clears waivers. He likes Larry.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 26, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Silva
“I feel really good,” Silva said. “If I get picked by another team, I’ll go there and do my best.”
Yes, please do that, preferably in the NL Central. Silva’s best in another teams win.
because you said that
silva will be signed by the cards, and after a little dave duncan magic, will win the cy young
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Mar 26, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not too sure you want him in the NL Central.
"The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it." - Casey Stengal
Atta boy Reed!
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Just wait'll TJ11 hears this!!!!
He’ll be in tears for a week!!!!
At least Silva had the “class” to blame Riggins, not himself:
In recent weeks, teams have scouted Silva’s spring training starts. However, there has been little to no interest in acquiring him. Thanks for a coupla months in 2010 Carlos, G’Bye now.
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Holy hell he just slaughtered
Geo’s name.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
aaron effing boone
did anyone else just hear him pronounce soto’s name?
That guy just compeltely butchered Geo's name. LOL
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Put it back! :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
I didn't hear that...
Tell me I just didn’t hear THAT…
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Mar 26, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
You mean instead of watching Ugly Betty on WGN?
Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.
by section229beer on Mar 26, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Gameday audio is 4-5 sec faster than ESPN 2
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
It's only on ESPN2
Their feed, their announcers I presume. WGN tomorrow afternoon.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Mar 26, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
tomoro I think
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Ahhh...for the good ole days...
WGN or nothing… well, radio
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
been a lazy no good $#@& for too long...gotta work 'round the house
Go Cubs! (One down…one to go, you listening Koyie???)
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
koyie is too busy washing hendrys car to hear you
He's my Hossa
HO-HO-HO-HO-HOSSA
by jesus christos on Mar 26, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh... I forgot... too cold in Illinois to wash,
but he’s in AZ!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Live K zone is awesome!
I hate ESPN announcers, but I love their video production.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
I was going to mention this...wonder how MLB umps union think of this?
but the WGN audio is better than the bald voice on ESPN
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I think they...
read my fanpost from a couple days ago!
Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!"
Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!"
Len Casper: "Cubs Win! Oh Baby!"
Bob Brenly: "Give it to a Kid!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"
by #1 iowan cubs fan on Mar 26, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta catch that Andrew!
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
he does not look confident or smooth covering 1B
BTW big jumps on Cashner, this will be a problem
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I bet Riggins experience with Cashner had a lot to do with the Silva decision.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
ugh
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Can we get Silva back?
JK
Maybe not JK
yea jk
Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.
it is only ST....but
Cashner could be moved to the bullpen and Cubs recall another youngster
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I was just going
to ask if he left for the airport yet. ;)
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Sue-
I hope so!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
I was just wondering if we could get Silva back off the heap.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
Maybe we shoulda been careful what we wished for?
(not)
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
God hates him.
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
by Joejohnnyfrank on Mar 26, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
high phat straigh fastballs and hanging benders
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Mar 26, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Um, what?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Three reasons.
One, the Rangers are a good hitting team.
Two, he’s leaving everything up.
Three, he’s leaving everything over the plate.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
Makes me want to get bombed.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Like Cashner???
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
If he can't get three pitches over
he should be in AAA until he can
Because
Cashner=Kyle Farnsworth.
I know he’s young and has a great arm, but he hasn’t shown anything to get me too excited over the past few years. He wasn’t good last year and I don’t really understand why everyone wants him in the rotation. Lots of fastballs up and over the plate; I don’t care if you can throw 96 mph, leave it there and it will get crushed. I’m not saying that he won’t learn how to pitch, I just don’t think he knows how to right now. I would take Coleman over him in the 5th spot any day of the week.
His air raid siren failed,
And as a result, his defense forces were unable to scramble their fighters. ;)
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State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Whats the score?
Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.
4-2, not Cubbies way
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
4-2 Tex 1st, 2 out
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
Walk him on 4 straight.
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
4-2 Texas
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 3:36 PM CDT reply actions
qoute of the game so far: Hughes
“Very wobbly first inning for Cashner”
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Some where Silva
is laughing his ass off.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
hee-hee
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Hello Sue
Did you have to point that out?! :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Why?
He’s out of a job and deservingly so. He has nobody to blame but himself. The Cubs wanted him to win the job, but he showed up out of shape and looked terrible.
It was a joke. Relax.
I wanted him gone as much as anyone else.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I don't care
he will be wearing another uniform or a Hawaiian shirt with a $2M early bonus….
Cashner is young and Cubs have more arms ready for the rotation….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
5-2
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
5-2 Texas
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions
Hendry will still get bashed if Cashner sucks...
…and Silva does okay somewhere else.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
That's how it works around here.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Its always so ridiculous when someone says something like this
Yes, maybe one or two people will claim we should have kept Silva. The VAST majority understand Cashner was ALWAYS the better choice. Doesn’t make it equal.
Are you really expecting everything to always agree on everything?
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
Silva
has proved he stinks over a long period of time, I have no problem with dumping him even if everyone else they try in the 5th spot stinks this year. You know Silva will be horrible; there’s at least a chance that someone else will do a decent job in his place. My choice would have been Coleman over Cashner, I think he is the better pitcher right now.
Coleman
He is the one I wanted for the 5 spot.
Big boys hit fastballs and 88 mph off speed stuff.
Cash needs to learn how to pitch.
Anyone else see on ESPN 2 that Soto and some coach on the bench were having words, not heated but still a little tight. I think to many fastballs was the topic, just curious.
That was my preference too
Cashner in AAA, Coleman as 5th starter. Can’t really complain that much about Cashner getting the job though.
With the lack of work in ST, Coleman needs to stretch out some
So Cashner will get some starts. Hope he figures it out or goes down knowing what he needs to do to get right.
Cubs open for buisiness: first, third No out
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
that was one ugly bunt attempt
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Hideous
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
by Joejohnnyfrank on Mar 26, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Reed, Sac RBI Fly.
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
by Joejohnnyfrank on Mar 26, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
5-3 Texas, mid 2
Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball. ~Pete Hamill
as I said if his like Chabba Chamberlain, than he is...
but you have to find out…
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
time will tell won't it
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
His name is Joba Chamberlain, just so you know.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Joba the Hutt.
Jabba’s second cousin, once removed.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Silva is paying him some of his $$'s to pitch this bad!
"OFFENCE IS TO WEAK"
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/2/24/2014183/cubs-mediocre-in-11
Howdy - How goes the game?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Cubs have to eat 11-12 M$, I assume...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Pretty good deal there...
make $7.5 M and do nothing but hit all the “All you can eat” buffets. Good gig, if you can get it.
"The trouble is not that players have sex the night before a game. It's that they stay out all night looking for it." - Casey Stengal
I'm still gonna miss the "good" Silva of early 2010
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Hiya eths.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Doody ... Cubs losing 5-3.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey VCF
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Be careful...
There’s double VCF trouble in the gamethread today!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Cashner - good move!!!
I know he’s getting hit hard today, but since I have been critical of Hendry/Quade in the past, I will give them both props for what I feel is a good move! Credit where credit due. Here’s to the future!
have people who watch baseball become so stupid
we need a floating strikezone on the TV? It’s like the yellow line on football games or the dreaded glow around the hockey puck.
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
so do I and I also like the yellow in football but not the glow in hockey
also like the mouse on computers, text message alert on cell phones, alert light on gas gauges and …
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
I just hope nobody trips over that box running from third to home
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remember when the puck would go over X mph it would turn red?
BARF
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Nothing could cause that to happen!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Some football telecasts go it one further,
And put a blue line for the LOS in football games. Soon we won’t be able to see what’s taking place on the field.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
WooHoo tied up.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
TIE GAME!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions
Nice.......
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
what is wrong with TEXAS Ranger pitching heck the Cubs have scored 5 runs in 3 innings
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
And the Rangers scored 5 in one inning?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Is there something wrong with the Cubs scoring runs?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I like unsettling
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
reverse sarcasm about Texas scoring 5 runs in 2 IP
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
in algebra (-5)-5=?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
-10?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
that looks like -5 minus 5.
Which is -10.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
it sure isn't Bo
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
-5 * -5 or -5-5 ???
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Especially when we're unsettling the other team.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
the box shows that was not a strike!!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
OT: An interesting website I've never seen
would be one on the history of the coverage of pro sports injuries.
From ACLs and MCLs
to strained obliques and torn lbrium
check this site out
http://blog.rotobase.com/2010/02/new-research-using-the-injury-database/
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
He slaughtered Geo's name again.
Good grief.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
I can understand if it's a nobody.
But wow, I guess it’s spring training for the announcers as well.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Thank goodness that had a comment title.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Quade quote: Cashner is a work in progress
he is working on the soft stuff…
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
that is what Quade just said he was working on...
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
now if he can get into the 6th with 5 ER today
some might think it was a positive start after being promoted.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Entirely OT
Geraldine Ferraro (RIP) wasn’t the first woman that ran as a VPOTUS. She just wasn’t.
Marietta Stow
1884 National Equal Rights Party
Tonie Nathan (Libertarian Party) received an Electoral Vote in 1972.
But I think she was for one of the two major parties.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Sutcliffe quote from earlier in today's ESPN broadcast:
“The Cubs would trade Silva for a rosin bag at this point – whatever they can get.”
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
can we sign the rosin bag for $850K?
can it play backup catcher?
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
haha!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Any bag ladies available?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
NO! would make Hill look worse! :]
Hello Eths
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
wouldn't want to use the that rosin bag
but would take Russell Martin straight up, except for the $2M bonus it would be an equal $$ trade (with the Cubs keeping the Mariners payoff)
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
gets rid of Hill
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
plus Yanks want to get rid of him also
he could be a fair backup, and if suddenly he finds his stroke in mid season Cubs could trade him for value and bring up Castillo
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Knowing Hendry, he would take a year's supply of donuts.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
K-zone says that was a strike!!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
Tim815...when you said "OT" you
really meant OT! I dunno, but second your RIP.
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Ah, Thank you.
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
if I read it on the internet it would be true
if I hear it on the radio, I can question it
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simply crushed that ball
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
He is on my fantasy team
Yahoo had him ranked about 250, I don’t know why.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 26, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He is not a good fantasy player
since he does not provide bug numbers in any category. He is simply a good player across the board. To me his fantasy worth is as a backup when your starter is not playing. He won’t hurt your team average and if he does anything it is a bonus.
Did you bother looking at his stats?
I like the guy and think he does the little things right, but he doesn’t put up above average stats. He’d be a 4th outfielder on most of the better teams.
"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer
Triple by Byrd
6-5 Cubs.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Very unsettling....
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
next up they should give the umpire special glasses that allow them to see K-Zone
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
agreed
or a small TV and 10 sec delay!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Or a buzzer in each hand...
If the left hand buzzes, it’s a ball. If the right hand buzzes, it’s a strike. You could put a robot umpire back there to call balls and strikes.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
The umpires union would object
the android union would endorse
Jumpy jumpy time
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
ESPN live k-zone
Wow! Just days after my fanpost about automated strikes and balls, but the ESPN announcers like the idea! It was brief, but one of the ESPN commentators said he wants to see the right calls, then the other two commentators went along with the idea. I love the live k-zone!
Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!"
Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!"
Len Casper: "Cubs Win! Oh Baby!"
Bob Brenly: "Give it to a Kid!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"
by #1 iowan cubs fan on Mar 26, 2011 5:40 PM CDT reply actions
Attendance Notes
1 – Sometime tomorrow, the 2011 Cactus League attendance total will officially eclipse the final 2010 total. The season total will exceed 1,500,000 fans, which is the 2nd highest total in history.
2- If the D’Backs draw 10,300 or more tomorrow, they will break the all-time Cactus League record of 203,105 set in 2009.
3- The Rockies are only trailing the D’Backs by 330 per game. With two dates remaining, they would give the D’Backs a run for their money for the all time total, except they will play two fewer games.
4- Salt River Fields will see an unbelievable 385,000+ fans come thru the turnstiles this year for Spring Training. That is nearly double the number of fans that any Cactus League Park has ever had before.
Think the Salt River-Pima Indians are happy with their investment?
3- The Giants are now ahead of last year, and the Giants, Rockies and D’Backs are all averaging over 10,000 per game. Last year was the first year there were three teams that averaged 10,000+ and that will be the case again this year.
I have a question about point #4.
DOUBLE the number that any Cactus League park has ever had before? The parks at Peoria and Surprise host two teams and generally 30-32 games a year. That would mean those parks would have to average around 5000 a game for Salt River Fields to double that. You sure about that?
Also, your points confirm mine. The Giants, Rockies and D’backs are all up, way up, in attendance. Other teams are down. The Cubs will be significantly down. The reasons for that are several, including the new complex and the economy. It remains to be seen, in 2012, whether Salt River Fields will continue to draw the way it has in 2011.
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Nearly double
The other parks that host two teams have historically had one team that draws fairly well and one team that doesn’t draw as well.
For instance, at Peoria, the Mariners will normally draw 120,000 or so (although they are down this year), but the Padres are more like 80,000.
The point being, there has never been a two team park where both teams approached 200,000. The success of Salt River Fields has far exceeded the already optimistic expectations.
I’ll be happy to bet you right now that SRF is not a one year wonder. The crowds have actually increased as the season has gone along. It will be the premier spring training park in the Valley for the next few years.
The difference, IMO, is that one of the teams is local.
The D’backs obviously are drawing from the local fanbase. That should continue.
I can tell you, anecdotally, there were a LARGE number of people I talked to this year who said they were going to check a game out at SRF — just to say they’d been there. That won’t happen next year, I don’t think.
We’ll see.
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