Chicago Cubs vs. San Diego Padres Preview, Saturday 3/5, 2:05 CT: Stay Healthy, Please!
by Al Yellon on Mar 5, 2011 12:00 PM CST
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PrintMatt Garza will likely be just fine after being hit in the midsection yesterday by a ball hit by the Royals' Jeff Francoeur. However, it would be nice if the Cubs could avoid any future such occasions, which led to someone in the comments yesterday nicknaming the Cubs' new starter "Garza-lanny" after Tom Gorzelanny, who got hit by flying baseballs twice last year.
Rick Morrissey of the Sun-Times weighed in on the Carlos Silva/Aramis Ramirez dustup and this quote reminds us that this kind of thing happens more often that we might think:
Baseball players aren’t exaggerating when they say conflicts occur periodically during a season and that we just happened to see the one caught by cameras.
"I can’t think of a team it didn’t happen to," said former Cubs outfielder Todd Hollandsworth, who played for eight clubs over 12 seasons. "If it didn’t happen, that team probably didn’t care very much. If it didn’t happen, that to me was a show of no team. They show up, put in the time and just get out of there.
"Guys typically care. It’s virtually impossible to spend 16 hours a day, seven days a week for eight months without there being conflict. These things happen. It’s just that the media is not privy to most of it."
This is undoubtedly true. If this incident had happened in the clubhouse, instead of in clear view of tweeting beat writers, we'd probably never have heard a thing about it.
Andrew Cashner will start for the Cubs this afternoon as they face the Padres in Mesa. Randy Wells is also scheduled to go, followed by Jeff Stevens, Scott Maine, Jay Jackson & Robert Coello. The Padres counter with Wade LeBlanc, followed by Simon Castro, Anthony Bass, Jeremy Hefner, Colt Hynes, Brad Brach and Aaron Poreda.
Today's Cubs lineup:
Today's Padres lineup:Fukudome RF Castro SS Byrd CF Ramirez 3B Pena 1B Soriano LF Baker 2B Hill C Cashner P
Will Venable RF Kevin Frandsen SS Ryan Ludwick LF Brad Hawpe 1B Chase Headley 3B Nick Hundley C Everth Cabrera 2B Luis Durango CF Wade LeBlanc P
Today's weather forecast in Mesa is outstanding:
Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 78. East northeast wind between 5 and 7 mph.
In past years on a similar date in similar weather, this would have generated a sellout. We'll see how today's attendance compares.
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"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
If eths makes it here this summer
I’d like to buy him one. ;-)
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
I already have my
$108 12-pack on order – combine that with some $200 a bottle vodka and you have a helluva game day
Why is Hill starting again?
"A dream you dream alone is only a dream. A dream you dream together is reality." John Lennon
"My favorite food is Macaroni and Cheese, from the blue box." Geovany Soto
Hill is GREAT at calling games!!!!
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I hope he doesn't embarrass me
for standing up for him.
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We all already know about Hill offense but this surprised me
Last year, Soto was 18 of 92 throwing out basestealers. Main backup Koyie Hill was 5 of 42, and Welington Castillo was 2 of 5.
Read more: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110301/sports/703019914/#ixzz1Fl43QYbT
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Quit defending Silva and the Cubs brass Al
we all know that Mr. Tubby Mc Tubsomuch needs to be thrown (or more likely rolled) out on his keester along with the Bald One and Jimbo-tron.
This is uncalled for and we need to forget that Silva performed well in the first half of last year and just eat the $7.5 million in salary because thats what I want them to do. Nevermind that few organizations do this and you might want to see what the Tubster could do again this year.
JUST FIRE THEM ALL!!!
GETITDONECHEAPASS!!!
I think I have covered most all of the insults that have been thrown around on the board so goodnight.
by hansman1982 on Mar 5, 2011 12:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like you need that $200 bottle of vodka now. :)
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
You are right, sir! The Cubs should never do anything only few organizations do.
Stay the course. We can drive the boat out of the perfect storm of incompetence.
Again with the attendance missive of doom?
Death by a thousand paper-cuts…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I drugged Al with the Cubbie Kool-Aid
and forced him to comment on attendance in every game post. No easy trick from 750 miles away either.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
750?
Based on googlemaps, that means New York just moved 40 miles closer to Chicago. Earthquakes?
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Talk to American Airlines
I get 733 miles for each segment between LGA & ORD. If I got another 50 miles per trip
by your system I would have earned at least one extra free ticket by now
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that would explain a lot...
If I ever come across a See-n-Say, I’m gonna buy two – his and hers – for you and Al. Then I’ll change all the animal pictures to various Cubs players, coaches and front office personnel, as well as a few other baseball personalities and BCB memes.
And the Lou goes…. “Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeetheart”
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I'm afraid to hear what the one for me would say.
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The clerk says
Biiiig Gulp
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
See-n-Say
I would love to see that!
"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.
by No Southern Belle on Mar 5, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
I knew there was a reasonable explanation.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Doom?
No. Just watching it, because this is a story.
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Something that happens every day is a story?
Why not wait until the end of Spring Training or at least the halfway point? By then at least you’d have some meaningful data to make some kind of analysis or statement.
I mean, you’re the same person that tells us not to put too much stock in what happens early on w.r.t. players’ performance and game results, aren’t you? Why is attendance so different?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Because attendance is what it is.
It’s not something that you work on building up to the regular season. It has specific comparison points to previous years. Today will be a good test, since in previous years a Saturday game in great weather would have been a sellout.
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Meh... Methinks you self-prophesize too much
you write about it every day, I guess it has to end up being a story.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Al's not the only one that's written about this.
I’ve read it in the games notes of a couple of best writers.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say that's a pretty good guess.
Anyone else?
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Hmmm...I'll guess 9,245
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by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
... which compares poorly to a comparable week a year ago
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Sigh...
This See-n-Say project is going to be easier than I thought. ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
The gate person says
Juuust you todaaaay?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
IIRC
Wasn’t Colvin scheduled to start at first base today!
Yesterday at 1B
I thought he was going to DH today according to a Carrie Muskat tweet.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 5, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Remember, tomorrow is a split squad day.
vs. Reds @ Goodyear
vs. Dodgers @ Mesa
(The Dodger game is the one on TV)
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Tomorrow maybe.
Quade is posting lineups in advance during spring.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't get to see the game
how did he look. I know small sample size, just interested.
Reviews were good by the beat writers.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you!
Now I’ve got Twins-Rays on GameDay Audio on the computer and Cubs pre-game on the radio. No problem – I’ve got two ears… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I'm listening with my ears
and reading the Cubs Annual with my eyes!
Multitasking is a must during baseball season!
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Why isn't Pat Hughes
doing the games with Zonk on WGN Radio this weekend?
Hope everything’s okay with Pat.
Baseball is back!!
I bet he and Bob are both just taking the time off
as their spots in the rotation all sewn up already! Bet Pat will be down for the last couple weeks but no every game between now and then
by doofus cubs guy on Mar 5, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
I can't remember Pat missing broadcasts,
even in spring training. Seems strange.
I just hope he had some kind of conflict and everything’s okay with him and his family.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Len just said everything's fine with Pat.
Glad to hear that.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Scheduled days off. He's ok.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
Taking the weekend off
They talked about it yesterday on the broadcast. Len is doing the game today and Dave Eanet is doing tomorrow’s game.
As I look out the window and see some combination of snow and sleet swirling down here in Chicago...
…I hope BigJohn is out in the berm today, having a Big Old Style or two…
…or three…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Anybody having audio problems?
I listened to the previous games with Pat and Ron and had a package last year. I would log in and listen and it said it was a free preview??? Now when I log in it says to pay 20. I’m pretty sure we just renewed the subscription a few days ago, but if we didn’t isn’t spring training supposed to be free?
Today isn't a free broadcast online
as the game is on WGN Radio.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
When it was on WGN last weekend, I was fine logging into mlb.com and listening...
Now it comes up with package options so I’m not sure what that’s about.
If he renewed the subscription he should be able to listen.
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The only game we won was
the only one that our opponent scored first, maybe its a good sign. He got out of the inning.
I just hope he doesn't also remind you of Gaub.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Byrd doubles!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:23 PM CST reply actions
In play, run(s)!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:24 PM CST reply actions
It's always nice to beat the Pads
GO CUBS!
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Jeez, Pena, at least SWING the bat!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:28 PM CST reply actions
Ugh...the kars 4 kids commercial.
I sure didn’t miss that this winter.
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Good thing I chose that break to go to the fridge.
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Since I can't hear or watch this game
I’m making spaghetti with meatballs. Homemade everything, yo.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Including the bread :P
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
shh....I'm on a diet.
Got my husband to agree to letting me buy and ipad when I reach my goal. I’m starving.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
The sauce is pure vegetarian
Tomatoes, onion, garlic, mushrooms, olive oil, salt, pepper, and a bunch of herbs. I won’t say anything about the bread or meatballs, tho…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Yeah, I think this will be a weekend of cooking
Ravioli (using the leftover sauce as topping) tomorrow. And brownie cookies for dessert.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Do we have a figure on attendance Al?
I don’t know when you usually find those out (I’m guessing I’m asking a little too early) but Len is emphasizing that it’s “jam packed”.
Chicago fan stuck in Florida.
RIP Ron Santo
Too early.
Probably about the 7th or 8th inning.
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Sounds good
Len just said he thinks double-digit thousands. That’s good stuff
Chicago fan stuck in Florida.
RIP Ron Santo
I thought it was doing that this year.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Some players don't take pitches in the RS, either.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Seems low since he walked 2, struck out 1 and gave up a hit.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Today's Devil Cubs update...
Guyer 0-1
Chirinos 0-1
Farnsworth 1 IP, 1H, 1W, 2K, 0R
Archer 1 IP, 1H, 1W, 1K, 0R
and sadly, yet again still no sign of little Sammy Fuld….
Cubbie-Tim – I think it might be time for an ABC Nightline “Fuld Watch: Day 3” fanpost…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Fuld is hurt.
That was mentioned in one of the comments yesterday.
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Ah... thanks for update
Hope it’s not too bad, otherwise this might be a prelude to RosterGate: Tampa Edition…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
From working all those stats in the offseason
No doubt
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I hate to see those stats in 2012-14 :(
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
Fuld has a sore elbow.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
He has a history of being injured in ST
Sort of snake bit.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Must get hurt from being in the Arizona Snake Pit too often.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Or the Snakepit Alehouse
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
but we just learned he's hit 2 more career HR's than runners he throw out last year
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh.
My Safari’s Flash Player just deliberately quit, meaning I have to reopen GameDay.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:49 PM CST reply actions
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
FLASH PLAYER sucks.
Fixed it for you.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
If spring training stats are suspect,
why do teams use them to determine who will round out their roster?
Baseball is back!!
In further news
We still can’t get Headley out. Talk about your unknown Cub-killer. I think that dude has to be hitting .600 against us.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Must be a spring training thing.
Regular season, 74 PA, Headley vs. Cubs: .254/.392/.305, 0 HR, 7 RBI.
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Huh
Maybe I remember more. Can your awesome B-R skillz tell us if those RBIs were all after the 6th inning?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Al
Have you ever asked any of the people who you know…. why Hill starts as often as he does?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't.
But maybe I will when I get to AZ.
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I’m wondering if there is something we don’t know.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
aggh!!!!!
Another error….another run.. Although i believe aramis should have been charged that error and not Hill
Without being able to see it I think they should each get half an error
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Why doesn't MLB give half credit?
The NFL splits credits for sacks.
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by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
If they allowed half the blame I swear Theriot would have had 80 errors
He got away with most as he could not be blamed for the double clutch etc.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
If there is a way to have 1/2 an error
I’m think the Cubs this year will figure it out how to.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Ew
Error. Sigh.
Hi everyone. Glad to be back for a game thread.
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!!!
GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
Uh oh....
Hill gets the error but ARam didn’t hold onto the ball. Media gathers around dugout, salivating…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Did he loaf it while not holding onto the ball?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
KEITH!!!
ABNER DOUBLEDAY DID NOT INVENT BASEBALL!!!!!
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ERIC HANNA DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH HELP FROM ADAM LIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Whoaaaaaaa - me and the Jazzman on the same page!
Pigs are flying somewhere… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Oh, I'm just messin' with Al
Truth is, I find the attendance thing as fascinating as he does.
But, I live here!
Red's and White Sox
are they only teams we listen to Judd.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
and every dollar we Cub fans spend in Mesa means less taxes for you.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Huh!
In the first place, Mesa does not have, and never has had a property tax. And the last time I heard the Cubs were dipping into the the city till to the tune of $84M.
Don't you get the sales tax generated by tickets & food etc?
Hotels etc. Assume that helps Mesa or whatever the whole taxing district is
with the budget. Certainly no point in public spending without that.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
it will take a long time for that to add up to $84M.
But, you said it adds up to less taxes to ME, but it doesn’t because I am not taxed by Mesa. (unless you count sales tax).
I agree that it will take a long time for that
but I assume there are some taxes and fees in AZ beyond sales tax
and the revenue generated by the Cubs ( and other ST teams) should go to pay for a variety of public expenses that you would otherwise have to pay for.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Well then.
I guess you won’t let it go.
I will say that Moreland is seriously uninformed if he thinks Doubleday invented baseball.
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I think the point is
not whether Moreland is uniformed (I am sure he is not, he did go to college), it is why you are so inconsistent with your policies regarding name calling on BCB.
Guys, could you please discuss this somewhere besides the game thread?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
How is it inconsistent?
Al is doing what he can to stop you and others from calling each other names that could lead to annoying internet fights that are better off disappearing.
The fact that he calls Brennaman uninformed, and doesn’t go into an expletive filled rant why, shouldn’t be considered inconsistent.
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!!!
GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by Azul Cachorro on Mar 5, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
there are people who every year try to pick fights with Al here
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I know
They’re too petty.
Oops, was that name-calling? Too bad.
Let’s get the ban hammer out, nao.
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!!!
GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by Azul Cachorro on Mar 5, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
"idiot" and "jerk"
are equivalent in my book. He says one is not allowed and he uses the other himself.
And for the record, I didn’t call anybody anything, unless “inconsistent” is name calling to you.
You know, Al
a much more effective way to get me to drop it, rather than talking to me as if you were my father, would be to simply say, “I was wrong. I shouldn’t have called Marty Brennaman a jerk, given my policy of no name calling on BCB.”
Is it namecalling if it's true?
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yep
the sense of it being true merely lets you sleep better at night.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Upon thinking I decided that you are right sir.
I was being a jerk.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
Well, if I may add something to this,
It’s that Marty Brennaman has a much longer history of hating on the Cubs than Keith Moreland does. I think that’s what caused Al to label Brennaman a “jerk”, but not Moreland, who appears to have had nothing more than a slip-up.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Since you brought it up
all Brennaman did was respond with his opinion about the Cubs chances when asked. It was the reporter himself that for some odd reason chose to interject about Marty’s response to the ball throwing incident.
So, when you get right down to it, the BCB reaction to the article is just because Marty expressed his opinion that the Cubs would not be a contender this year. He is entitled to his opinion.
But, this is all beside the point. Whether you agree with Al that MB is a jerk or not, Al has established a policy, very recently reiterated, that there is to be no name calling on BCB.
But, apparently the exception to that is when Al himself wants to call someone a name.
Well, if you actually read the article Al links to in that FanShot,
It shows his past remarks regarding the Cubs. Not many of us like him (Marty B.) here.
Seems like you’re more intent on getting the last word than you are about actually being right.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well if you actually read what I wrote
you would see that I mentioned the fact that the author of that particular article, for some odd reason, brought up the past comments by Marty, even though it had nothing to do with the topic at hand.
It almost seemed like the intent of the article was to trash Marty, rather than a sincere attempt to get his thoughts on the upcoming season.
There are lots of people that not many people on here like. Mark Grace, the Brennamans, Tony La Russa, Ozzie Guillen, Roy Oswalt, A.J, Perzynski, etc etc.
Actually, pretty much anybody that has anything to do with the Cardinals, Mets, White Sox, Dodgers, Padres, Brewers or D’Backs.
Did I miss anybody?
I don't generally have a problem with the Diamondbacks.
I just don’t like Mark Grace as a broadcaster.
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Please let us enjoy the game.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
what's stopping you?
just click on your z key a little faster…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
The horse was beat to death on the offseason on these issues.
Now people are beating the cows.
I’m calling animal cruelty!
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Who's beating cows!?
Say it ain’t so.
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Cow hide, baseball, good analogy, no?
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
I hear the cow had it coming with it's bad attitude
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The point of no name calling
Isn’t about being a nice community where everyone agrees with each other and the like.
It’s just about avoiding people from going into really off-topic arguments that turn into ’net fights. Those really take up the bandwidth!
But meh, I don’t actually care. Feel free to continue the criticism, this is a free country after all.
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!!!
GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by Azul Cachorro on Mar 5, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Mmmm
“this is a free country after all.”
I’m not so sure. Apparently not on BCB if you call the site admin out for inconsistent application of policy. You are told to drop it, even when there is no name calling involved.
...
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
And the errors are back...
Too good to be true yesterday
by Harry and Wrigley on Mar 5, 2011 2:55 PM CST reply actions
Reminds of someone who wrote a letter to a baseball columnist in the 80s
asking why home runs should not be counted for more than one run because they were so difficult & exciting. The writer responded that the reason home runs should only count for one run is that if they counted for more Dave Kingman might still be playing ( this was about 2 years after he retired).
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
How much more convincing do we need that Koyie Hill is not MLB material?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions
I sure don't.
I know, the pitchers like him. And I know he’s a real good guy. But that’s not enough for me.
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Do not badmouth Koyie "the most Awesome" Hill
he will deliver us to…um…someplace!
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VCF!
How are you?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
finally got all those cursed chores done!
who wants some VCF koolaid?
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mmm, VCF koolaid!
Come to Vegas and Vermont for some!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Just lost my respect for keith
Doubleday? Really?
by Harry and Wrigley on Mar 5, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions
Ew...missed it.
What did he say?
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Something about when Doubleday invented baseball....
Which is fictional
by Harry and Wrigley on Mar 5, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah that's bad.
I didn’t think anyone still thought that.
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Gameday gives the E to Rami on that one
Can’t wait to see the reax in the post-game thread on that one…
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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Randy wells going after rami now?
Twice in a week would be great
by Harry and Wrigley on Mar 5, 2011 2:58 PM CST reply actions
TOOTBLAN.
Is it 2010 again?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:00 PM CST reply actions
great minds think alike!
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Dome was on base
So obviously not
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Anybody know what the word for nincompoop is ?
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Where's Dragonsfanatic when we need him?
Where has he been lately? I miss him.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Ahh.... you know me too well, cowsarecool... ;-)
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nincompoop
nin·com·poop
/ˈnɪnkəmˌpup, ˈnɪŋ-/ Show Spelled[nin-kuhm-poop, ning-] Show IPA
–noun
a fool or simpleton.
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Origin:
1670–80; origin uncertain
—Related forms
nin·com·poop·er·y, noun
nin·com·poop·ish, adjective
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
OOPS I meant to write JAPANESE word
I know only too well what a nincompoop is.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
No this is 2011 Cubs
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
OT-Just got one of those #10 memorial patches.
I’d like to put it on my husband’s jersey. Does anyone know if it’s best to sew or iron these things on? And if the answer is iron…how?
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I'm pretty sure sewing is the best..
but I’m no expert, wait for some other opinions as well
Chicago fan stuck in Florida.
RIP Ron Santo
I would sew it.
Or, if you’re not good at sewing, take it to a tailor or dry cleaner. They’ll do it and not charge you too much.
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Thanks guys.
Will have it sewn.
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Not swinging?
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
swinging...
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I should NOT have posted that
I really thought he could get a fly ball. Next time I will keep comments like that to myself.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
that's ok I thought DP
just didn’t type it
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Pondering
turn off @ bat app or not
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I would for sure turn it off1!!!!!!!!!
Haven’t had the pleasure of hearing him yet… this is only second ST game I’ve listened
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Keep it going!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:08 PM CST reply actions
BAKER!!!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:09 PM CST reply actions
that was a fun inning...
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Yep.
Now Koyie is up again.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
did you mean how?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
We would have won that bet.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
My loss.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
DId they honestly bring in another pitcher to face Hill?
If not Hill, is it Max Ramirez or Castillo?
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
Don't hate on
“the claw”! Admittedly a terrible hitter, though. :)
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
Did you read what I posted above about how many runners he throw out last year?
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
He calls a good game though.
Which in reality is fine for me, if the pitchers want him fine. Didn’t Greg Maddux often use the backup catcher on his turn?
So you are ok with a catcher throwing out 4 out 52 runners. How many runs do you think that 48 stolen bases led to? He was also almost an automatic out,,.. so how many rallies did that kill?
But he calls a good game so that is ok?
Not sure who Maddux catcher was … but I’m guessing he was better thajn that
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Koyie keeps his perfect record intact this spring
0-for-8.
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feel the power of Koyie "Zero" Hill
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Don't me wrong
I think he is maybe he’s a bit below average back up. Which would ok if he was actually used as JUST the back up catcher. I won’t hate on him. But he plays more than 2nd string catcher plays
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was Blanco for a couple years - and yeah, I'm pretty sure his throw out pctge was better than that.
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It was.
The Cubs would have been better off keeping Blanco after 2008. He’s still playing.
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That's great. He's gotta be about 40 now.
Wish we kept him.
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You're neglecting to mention
the time Blanco has spent on the DL. He spent much of his last year with the Cubs on the DL. That’s why he was not resigned.
And he was on the DL in 2009 for a significant period of time, not sure about last year.
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
one bad year and you are after his head!
at least give him 4-5 years to settle down and “learn” the game.
Part serious, part not
If he makes the pitcher better than ok, there has to be some reason why he is on the team.
Which is a question that I have asked
What pitchers have specifically said that he has made them better than ok? Or is it that we keep hearing that the pitchers like him and a good clubhouse guy.
''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Trust me a number of pitchers at the convention did in fact say
he made them a better pitcher and told some stories. I am not saying it is enough to keep him, but that is how they feel and what they say.
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by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Maddux routinely used the 2nd string catcher
regardless of who it was. It was because he felt the 2nd string catcher had more time to work with him before the game to go over it. He called his own game and he famously could not hold runners on so the catchers throwing ability was largely irrelevant . Worked OK for Maddux, but I would not recommend it for others. I think one can tolerate a very light hitting catcher if he calls a good AND his very good defensively but Hill is not that good.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
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by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Did Selig just say ticket sales are up?
What league is he talking about?
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English Premier Football League?
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Mar 5, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Len should ask Bud why MLB is paying Joe Torre
$2 for a ceremonial post. Excessive, particularly in these economic times.
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S. Castro
facing S. Castro!
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
I know I'll be confused when I read the boxscore
I won’t know who did what!
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Another error,
but it’s not us.
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Ah ha! It's catching!
Baseball is back!!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 5, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Nice!
Someone besides the Cubs commits an error!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:30 PM CST reply actions
Oi!
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Covering all the basics today on the broadcast....
Three outs per inning….how to keep score…
by Harry and Wrigley on Mar 5, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions
Hey guys,
Join me in the overflow thread!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:35 PM CST reply actions
i agree
with al. please stay healthy. every year i keep my fingers crossed during march. and with the way the cardinals have self imploded it could be a huge advantage breaking camp with a strong team.
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