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Cubs 5, Dodgers 3: Byrd Is The Word. Reds 10, Cubs 0: Enough Said

The Cubs and Dodgers headed to extra innings today, and as Len & Bob mentioned on the telecast, basically played until they ran out of pitchers. It wound up as a 5-3 Cubs win in 10 innings, thanks to a walkoff two-run homer from D.J. LeMahieu. Regarding the possibility of a tie -- ties are more common now in spring training games than they used to be. I recall seeing the Cubs and Giants play a 12-inning game several years ago that wound up in a tie that lasted almost four hours. But now, when teams play in essence just to get players' work in and to work on situational hitting and not necessarily to win, ten innings was enough, and fortunately for the Cubs, they put on a good show for the WGN-TV audience.

Marlon Byrd was indeed the word today; he had two more doubles and went 3-for-3; he's now 9-for-15 (.600) in spring play with four doubles. Ryan Dempster became the first Cubs starter to go four innings, and he threw effectively, giving up only three hits and a run, with no walks and three strikeouts, before spending some time in the stands late in the game signing autographs and talking to fans -- just the kind of guy he is. Carlos Marmol threw a typical Marmol inning -- with three strikeouts and a walk, and occasionally throwing a pitch over a batter's head.

The game at Goodyear is barely worth writing about. The Reds beat the Cubs 10-0 and the Cubs managed only two hits, a second-inning single by Marquez Smith and ninth-inning single from Starlin Castro. Smith also drew a walk, as did Brett Jackson. Those were the Cubs' only baserunners today and I think it's merciful that we didn't get to see Trey McNutt pitch on TV, because he had a rough outing, throwing only two-thirds of an inning and giving up two hits, three walks and four earned runs, including a HR allowed to Zack Cozart, who has little chance of making the Reds roster. This is McNutt's first major league camp and clearly, he's still a year or two away from seriously contending for the rotation. Todd Wellemeyer, who does have a shot at making the team, started and threw two competent, if not great, innings.

Attendance watch (you knew this was coming, right?) -- today's crowd in Mesa was almost 20% smaller than yesterday's, which is a bit of a surprise. In past years, a Sunday, even this early in March, with the Dodgers as the opponent, would have been a near-sellout. Today's attendance of 8,669 makes the average for five dates at HoHoKam 7,528. At this pace the total Cubs attendance for spring training will be the lowest since 2003. Other attendance figures today: Cubs/Reds in Goodyear, 4,518; Royals/White Sox in Glendale, 4,197; Diamondbacks/Angels in Tempe, 7,228; Brewers/Athletics in Phoenix, 2,963; Brewers/Angels in Surprise, 6,503; Giants/Mariners in Scottsdale, 10,980 and Indians/Rockies at Salt River, 10,030. (At the time of this post, Athletics/Padres in Peoria was in the ninth inning, tied.) All of those seem low except for the new complex at Salt River, which has the "new ballpark smell", and the game in Scottsdale featuring the defending World Champions.

One thing that was interesting to see on TV: a home team wearing white (pinstripes) and a visiting team wearing gray. Most teams wear practice jerseys in spring training, sometimes, comically as in the case of a Reds/Angels game earlier this week, both wearing red. The white vs. gray is more traditional -- I liked it.

Tomorrow, the Angels visit Mesa; it will be Carlos Silva's first start since the... well, you know. Dan Haren goes for the Angels.

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Yaaa!!! Cubs on TV!!!

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely.

Even with snow still on my deck, lets me know that spring is nearly here.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Spring?

We’re getting 6-12 inches of snow here today, at least that’s the forecast today.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You're in Vermont.

Spring comes when, June?

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Early July.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Trust me,

I’m going crazy up here. I’m someone who doesn’t like winter. I want to climb mountains again, I can do it when the snow is gone from the summits.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Guys, guys, I'm going crazy over HERE

It’s not fun to tear your ACL and not do any sports for 6 months :(

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

omg, I didnt know, you hang in there too!!!!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 6, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

How much rehab do you have left?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Good luck!

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

glad you are healing well

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Done that in both knees

hang in there. I’m playing basketball in college right now and i blew my knees out in 04 and 05…you’ll be fine. It sucks, but you’ll be fine. Keep plugging away.

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

PS what surgery did you get?

Hamstring or Patellar?

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i know

oh yea believe me i know it’s a bitch. the worst for me was the 2nd day tho, not the day after. idk why.

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

yea had that on my right knee

left knee did patella….both strong today

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That's good.

Does it matter which one you do? Doc said I’d be slower by like .1 seconds if I did hamstring (which I did)

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't know if i buy that one

i am faster and stronger now than i was before the surgeries, for sure. granted, i’m also 7 years old, but i’m referring to overall quickness and knee stability re: strength.

it’s probably all mental anyways. i’m surprised he told you that, quite frankly. the biggest difference is that with the hamstring surgery it goes around your growths plates, where as patellar surgery it goes right through them

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike

For being 7 years old you write quite well :)

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 6, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

older**

lol

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

amazing!!!!!

seven years old, and playing hoops n college, Doogie Howser eat your heart out

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

i do what i can

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh God, so it's gonna affect my growth???

I’m only 15, and I thought I’d still have a little of growing left

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

no i said it wasn't

hamstring goes around them

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

shouldn't your doctor have told you this already? lol

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, he mentioned something about it

I forgot exactly, though. I stressed out quite a bit, since the whole thing was a new experience.

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

it'll be alright. just take it one day at a time

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I've been doing

School, therapy, Bulls/Blackhawks/Cubs games, and HW, haha

by braziliancubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel for you VCF, hang in there

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Mar 6, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks.

Hopefully, it’s almost done.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

In Boston, it should already be melting.

Chances are it will be gone by mid-March.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I just got my plane tickets.

Al you should have an email soon. I’m working on a trip to Boston for something else later in the summerfor a group of friends (so have some group hotel rates) and wondered if we have enough BCB people needing rooms we may be able to get a group discount.

Nothing happens unless it's first a dream

by puckishcubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I am working to help plan a BCB meetup in Boston during that series.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

so does he have to change his name to BCF?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I kind of like the name "Best Cubs Fan".

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

wrong B

Boston Cub Fan

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, you should have specified that!

Or you could have meant Bulgarian Cubs Fan!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I've got that one covered

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 6, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

And to that end,

If anyone has any questions/concerns/suggestions about the Boston meetup, feel free to send me a message via email (my address is listed in my profile). Be sure to include your BCB username.

I will also be making at least one FanPost on the subject as the time gets closer.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

As of 6 AM here:

17 inches of snow. For the whole winter, we’ve received 115 inches of snow (7th most snow on record, and this one’s going to move up in those rankings).

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2011 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

23.2 inches per the news at noon.

This is the fifth worst snowstorm ever to hit Vermont. I’ve experienced four of those.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I just went out and cleared my car a second time.

Even if I could pull out and go to work (I called out because I clearly couldn’t make it today), there’s a snowdrift about a foot high right behind my car which I’d get stuck on if I went into reverse.

At this point, I’m just hunkering down in my apartment, waiting for the plows to come clear the parking lot a second time. Per a guy who was clearing the parking lot earlier in my first attempt at clearing my car, they had plowed just two hours before I got out there. In those two hours, the winds were so severe that snow drifted up to two feet in places.

He said they’d get the plows out in a few hours, but that was three hours ago.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 7, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh yuk!

May Spring find you soon.

♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪

by katie casey on Mar 7, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

A week?

Try a couple days.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

but the spring and fall seasons up there

make up for it, he he.

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by eswan9 on Mar 6, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Spring? OMG it sucks here

we had the kite festival at Zilker park and there was barely enough wind early on to get some of the kites up, but luckily it did get better

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Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

70 degrees in Vegas today!!!

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on, VCF!

Send that to me!!!!!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

How does one package that in a box

Could I send it FedEx?

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

VCF post.

That way, only you and I can open or close it.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

mwuuhahahaha!!!

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll repeat this

although I said this in the overflow thread after everyone left.

The LeMahieu HR is big because he crushed that ball. The biggest knock on him is that he’s got no power. He only hit two HRs all last season.

If that HR wasn’t just a fluke, he could go from being a middling prospect to a good prospect.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 6, 2011 5:18 PM CST reply actions  

This is a big year for LeMahieu.

You’re right, if he can hit for a bit of power, the Cubs may have something.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if LeMahieu can play catcher?

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by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll try to Ma'am...

Over the 2009-2010 off-season, Tyler Colvin spent a couple of months in Arizona on a weight/diet/conditioning program. Having added weight and muscle tone, Colvin showed good power during last season. This past winter about 25 or so Cubs were ‘accepted’ (space is limited) for the program in Arizona, and it was dubbed Camp Colvin. BCBers, please add or correct the above as required. Semper Fi,

by BAMACOLONEL on Mar 6, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Al, as a newbie

to posting on BCB, I’m learning the site’s protocols. Been ‘lurking’ for a year or more and enjoy it very much. Anyway, I hope I didn’t step on your toes by trying to answer the question about Camp Colvin. Semper Fi,

by BAMACOLONEL on Mar 6, 2011 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Not at all.

If you have good info, post it.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

just make sure

that you get your obligatory bash Al post out of the way…good way to introduce yourself to the site…

otherwise, welcome aboard

by hansman1982 on Mar 6, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Could be

But I’m betting he had more than two fastballs on the inner third last season in the minors and he only hit two HRs.

However, it is spring training. It easily could just be a fluke.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 6, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Loved the look on LeMahieu's face

In the chat afterward they commented on the day that he had put in. Basically he had gotten up and did the minor league workout and had taken a van over to the big boy game with no real expectations of getting in. And then SHAZAAM in he go’s and hits the game winner. It was nice to see the grins on all the guy’s faces plus it looked like a fair amount of gentle razzing as he went into the dugout.

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Mar 7, 2011 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I wish I could have seen today's game on TV.

However, my parents are out of town, and I don’t get WGN on my Dish Network package.

It’s always nice to have bragging rights over my uncle when the Cubs beat the Dodgers.

About the Cubs-Reds game, that was a bad game to do play-by-play for. I followed it until it was 8-0.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:19 PM CST reply actions  

Good game

Good game. IT was nice to see Dempster. Byrd looked good.

Lemaiheu looks like he could develop into something.

Len and Bob in good form.

Loved the WGN commercials.

Nothing happens unless it's first a dream

by puckishcubsfan on Mar 6, 2011 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

About the Cubs broadcasting team,

I actually think we’ve got one of the better TV broadcasting teams in baseball. I’d rank them in the top five. Also up there has to be the Red Sox duo of Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy. Even though I’m a Cubs fan, I always enjoyed watching them broadcast games.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Len & Bob are excellent.

Took them a while to do that, but now they are one of the best.

Another excellent broadcast team is Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper in San Francisco.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll second that

It’s my belief that Krukow and Kuiper is the best tandem of TV. Kasper and Brenly are a close second, IMO.

by renocubfan on Mar 6, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Another good broadcast team

is Dick Bremer and Bert Blyleven in Minnesota.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 6, 2011 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, I enjoying

both the SF and MIN TV teams.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 6, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Circle me Bert!

You can buy T-shirts that say that around here, to wear to games at Target Field.

Dick and Bert are a good team, even if Bert gets a little long-winded at times. Bremer tries to keep him in check, but that is not an easy job.

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by Clutch16 on Mar 6, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

he has an ad in Des Moines

for a caravan up to the twin cities and it seems like he is trying to cram 5 minutes of talking into a 30 second spot…

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 8:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed entirely.

Len and Bob are a very solid team.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Mar 6, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed all the way around

Len and Bob were a little rough to begin with, but they’ve really developed into a nice duo. Always liked Bob, even back when he was on radio in the ‘90s. Kasper sometimes can sound like a pubsecent boy when he gets excited, but he’s extremely solid on PxP.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 6, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it took Len a year to get the hang of it.

But I agree, they’re an excellent team. I always get a bit worried when Bob’s name is bandied about for managerial positions.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Mar 7, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

So do I

Bob never entirely rules it out. Hope he’s here for a long time to come.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 7, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I think at this point, he is.

There were more managerial openings this past offseason than in any time in recent memory. If Bob didn’t get offered — or didn’t want — any of those, I think he’s sticking with broadcasting.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 7:32 AM CST up reply actions  

not when he leaves the yanks to become

the Cubs manager…

Al, you really are slowing down in your old age, seriously, I think you and Shanghai need to move to Colorado together…also the discussion of Joe Girardi does get me pumped for CUBS BASEBALL!!!!

Another day, another blog post attacking someone else so I feel better about my pathetic existence as a human being…god I love the smell of the internet in the morning…

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

"Smells like... WINNING!"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, no.

I was trying to keep this a Charlie Sheen-free place.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

we are staying on topic

MLB Trade Rumors listed that the Indians and Hendry are talking about a 4 player package to bring him to Chicago…

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Too old.

And not lefthanded.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

well we can get younger

Kind of a MB sized reaction though…

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Why, whatever do you mean, Al?

I was merely trying to be more optimistic in my views around here. I thought “WINNING” would be a good vibe to share with folks… ;-)

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by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure.

I believe that.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Attendance at the Oak/SD game in Peoria was 6,061.

A little low there, too.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:42 PM CST reply actions  

Koyie Watch: 0-13.

cue the torches and pitchforks.

by Dcr18 on Mar 6, 2011 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe he needs something easier to hit

Coaches pitch or T-ball might help. I don’t think the opponent would go for that though.

I have PMS & a GPS -- which means -- I am a bitch, and I will find you.

by cub in louies nest on Mar 6, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

but I read he threw out a runner

That means he 1/4 way to the amount he threw out in the 77 games he played last season. So we should all rejoice!

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by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 6, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

No torches and pitchforks from me.

But clearly, we can do better than this.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 6, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Clevenger hit a PH double in a rare allowed AB today....

That gives him 2 more hits than Hill in 10 less AB’s….

by TJ11 on Mar 6, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been Steve Clevenger's biggest fan for years

Maybe his only one. But I think most people here would take him over Hill.

Steve Clevenger’s PECOTA forecast? .276/.324/.374

Koyie Hill’s? .236/.295/.348

by Josh Timmers on Mar 6, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

As much time as I spend

on your updates, Robinson, Clevenger, and Beef all still confuse me. No need to differentiate. Maybe I’ll grasp their differences this season.

by timh815 on Mar 6, 2011 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Really, at this point the money isn't an issue.

If Hill had a $3 million deal, then sure, it’s an issue. But he is making 2x the minimum.

The issue is the performance, not the money.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Here we go again...

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by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2011 7:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Then if he sucks and is cheap, why is he still here?

He should be offered a coaching position somewhere. But taking up a roster spot makes me question Quade and Hendry’s judgement again…

by TJ11 on Mar 7, 2011 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

He doesn't have a 25-man roster spot yet.

Save your torches and pitchforks.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

To that point though

how then are the Cubs evaluating the other catching options like Ramirez?

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Mar 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok, let me go conspiracy theorist here

Let’s say that Quade and Hill are indeed close chums. And let’s say that Quade DOES realize that Hill doesn’t deserve to be on this team. The simplest solution is to have Hill play out of a spot. Hill doesn’t make the final roster, Quade saves face with whatever friendship they have.

Is it like that at all? Probably not. But it’s at least a possibility to explain what is going on.

by Danwood on Mar 7, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Hill was always gonna suck but whats up with Pena?

Hes like the only starter not hitting and his low avg last year makes me feel like its gonna be another rough season for him.

If he has a Ramirez like start then i think we should just start Colvin at first. It may be a rough year for him at 1st but at least he would be a left handed threat in the line up.

Of course its Spring Training but he didnt do so well last year during spring and we know what happen then.

by Mitchener on Mar 6, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I still think Castillo would be an improvement.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe the beat reporters aren't asking

because they don’t think it’s nearly as big a deal as some fans around here think. :)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Mar 6, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I haven't been commenting on the Hill saga

until I see if he really is the backup catcher. I’m hoping against it.

In any case, Hill had 231 AB’s last season. That is a significant number for a offensive black hole. With Soto apparently not the most durable catcher, the backup catcher is important.

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by rlpete on Mar 7, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Would have been nice

to acquire a certain Martinez this offseason and fill two roster spots with one swoop

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Too expensive.

Plus, Martinez really isn’t much of a catcher any more.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

he wouldnt need to be much of one

if he is the backup…and then have Colvin in at 1b on Soto’s off days…

I know, not ideal all around and I am pleased with what we did this offseason but one can dream of bigger things

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Soto says he's 100% this year.

We need him to be.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

the key question

is what kind of shape did he show up in

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

But as you know one play and that can disappear.

The Cubs absolutely need healthy years from Ramirez and Soto if they are to have any hope.

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by rlpete on Mar 7, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I look forward to hearing about that.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

My guess is since Castillo

still has option(s), they want him to continue to play every day.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 6, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I've heard a lot of reports

that Castillo needs a lot of work defensively and calling a game. Of course, that was the explanation we got as to why he wasn’t playing last September. I don’t think it was a smokescreen.

by Josh Timmers on Mar 6, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Also, I think Josh’s point explains why Castillo wasn’t used more down the stretch last year. Quade was managing for a job, so he didn’t want to use a catcher with wanting play-calling and/or defensive skills.

Note that I’m not agreeing with the decision. But Quade trying to have a good finish also was almost certainly the reason Colvin didn’t get time at first down the stretch. If you’ll recall, there were reports in the final weeks of Lou that Colvin would get playing time at first — I think Bruce Miles even said that Colvin would get time in the Washington series. But Lou retired right before that series, Quade took over and the last six weeks did not become an extended ST (which would have happened under Lou, IMO).

I think a 24-13 finish might have been more valuable than Colvin getting time at first (which he is getting now) or Castillo getting time over Hill (which he isn’t getting now). But now, I think we clearly can see that Colvin at first (as a backup, Easy Ed) is in the Cubs’ plans. Castillo (or Ramirez, sadly) catching isn’t. At least, not yet.

by elgato on Mar 7, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate being that lefty-righty guy, but...

With both Pena and Colvin being LH, do we have/need a RH option at 1B?

Not sure what Pena is like against lefties in general, but if tough lefties give him problems, that seems like an ideal time to give him a rest. So is that when we put Colvin in? I’m pretty sure Colvin is better against lefties than Dome, but that’s not saying much, plus relatively small sample size.

I’m guessing this will just end up being a spot where lefty/righty matchups don’t come into play. Unless we want to start the ARam at 1B experiment (Baker at 3rd, Barney at 2B)…

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by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

we should just

have everyone draw a 1-9 number out of a hat before a game…

by hansman1982 on Mar 7, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Or we could just put Baker at first and not move Aramis.

Or, put Colvin at first and Reed or Fernando Perez in right?

The more I think about it, the more the Cubs need a big year from Pena to really compete in the Central. If he needs a platoon partner, if he doesn’t really merit hitting fifth or higher OR he disappoints in another way … I doubt the Cubs crack .500.

by elgato on Mar 7, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

oops - forgot about Baker at 1B

Yeah, that’s probably our best RH solution should we get to the point where we need one.

Of course, there’s always Z… ;-)

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by ballhawk on Mar 7, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

was he denied Camp Colvin?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 6, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you a Hill fan?

If so be happy because he is Hendry’s boy and will be here all year!

by TJ11 on Mar 6, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

absolutely not.

I’m the president of the MaxRam and Beef fanclub. Although I haven’t had many opportunities to cheer them on yet……

by Dcr18 on Mar 6, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring on the BEEF!!

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

and this

By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.

by VegasCubFan on Mar 6, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately we don't get WGN at the school I'm at.

So I couldn’t watch it. Seriously I think I’m at the only place in America without WGN.

So I got stuck watching the Bulls SWEEP the Heat.

I didn’t mind ;)

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

where do you go to school?

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 6, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

little school outside of columbus ohio

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Go Big Red?

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by ballhawk on Mar 6, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

you bet

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 7, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

.

Denison

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 7, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't get WGN either.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

touche

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Mar 6, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Marmol

Was filthy today. Liked the fact we were tagging and moving up a base. Sounds like Quade will be playing some small at times which I like. Good fundamental baseball with a touch of unselfishness will go along ways to building a true winner. Really really like what I’m seeing from Quade thus far.

by cubsluver22 on Mar 6, 2011 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Except for that

Play Koyie Hill so much thing, I agree.

by timh815 on Mar 6, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes it will go a long way if.....

ACTUALLY play good fundamental baseball.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 6, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm

guessing that errors just don’t matter much early in spring training and a lot of people here were overreacting.

by Husker_1 on Mar 7, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I was at a game at Hohokam late 80's

after 9 innings the game was tied, the umpires declared it a tie and left the field. 90% of the crowd left. The managers decided they still wanted to get some work in and agreed to keep playing. Due to the lack of fans and no umpires, me and my brother sat front row, behind the plate and called balls and strikes for two innings

Chicago Cubs - Arizona Cardinals 167 combined years and no rings
I guess I'm a masochist

by TBru on Mar 6, 2011 9:03 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry I missed that game.

Would have been fun.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Pity to not see

Mcnutt, even more dissapointing that he got shelled :S Off topic – did anyone see Manny Banuelos pitch for the Yanks against Boston a few days ago? He looked so poised and scarily talented. Envy was seeping from my every orifice!

Still, look forward to seeing Mcnutt work at another juncture this spring.

by English Cub Fan on Mar 7, 2011 5:45 AM CST reply actions  

From 'off site' reports,

Trey had been rather wild. Hopefully it is merely a momentary setback.

by timh815 on Mar 7, 2011 7:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Astros are in serious need of a catcher... and have no money

So, when we cut ties with Hill… he might land in Houston.

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by SackMan on Mar 7, 2011 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

Fine by me.

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by Al Yellon on Mar 7, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

At this point ...

Koyie might best help the Cubs by making a division rival worse. I truly hope we see more of Max Ramirez this week. Otherwise, I think year three of the Koyie Hill Experiment is about to start.

by elgato on Mar 7, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Is it cool if I just give him bus fare?

Personally, I am far more annoyed by Kosuke than by Koyie. Kosuke has cost the Cubs $48 million and has never been more than the fifth-best offensive player on a mediocre team. Someone used the ‘fifth-best player’ argument in criticizing my strong Kosuke opinions last month, so I figured I’d use it here.

Koyie, while annoying, has ‘earned’ about 2 percent of what Kosuke was given after 2007. I don’t personally blame Kosuke for making money, but that doesn’t mean I like seeing him after three disappointing seasons — and one more at $13.5 million — in a Cubs uniform. That’s partly because I’m tired of hearing the myriad excuses that have been made for Kosuke over the years, most of which are impossible to quantify, and some of which are impossible to even generally prove.

I do find it amazing how much love Koyie gets from the Cubs braintrust … but I can’t get all that upset about a backup catcher.

Oh, and I’m crazy-busy today, so if I don’t respond to the usual remarks about how Kosuke is misunderstood or misused, I apologize.

by elgato on Mar 7, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

From MLBTR

Link

Though the Astros are already $2MM over their 2011 payroll target, owner Drayton McLane and GM Ed Wade met yesterday “to set financial parameters for going outside the organization” for a catcher in the wake of Jason Castro’s season-ending injury, reports Steve Campbell of the Houston Chronicle.

I would expect them to wait and see who’s on waivers.

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by SackMan on Mar 7, 2011 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

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