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Cubs Beat Cold, Do A Number On Padres 1-0 On Tyler Colvin Double

Think about this for a moment.

On one of the coldest nights in recent Wrigley Field history -- 34 degrees with a 12 MPH wind blowing in strongly over CF, creating a wind chill of 25 degrees -- one of the slowest runners on the team scored the winning run from first base on a double, after he was safe at first base on what ordinarily would have been a double play ball.

Geovany Soto scored the gamewinner on Tyler Colvin's double, great news for Colvin as he's been badly slumping, and the Cubs beat the Padres 1-0 in 10 innings Monday night, evening up their record once again at 8-8. The Cubs have been at .500 at every win count this year (1-1, 2-2, etc. on to 8-8), the longest such string they've had since 1930.

I have more numbers for you. Carlos Zambrano had 10 strikeouts; it's the first time he's struck out 10 in a game since his no-hitter in 2008. Better than that, he gave up only three singles and a walk in eight outstanding innings, dropping his season ERA to 4.21, and although he didn't get the "win", he looked like the guy who dominated the National League in August and September last year.

Star-divide

Big Z was matched by the Padres' Tim Stauffer, who gave up ... only four singles and a walk. The Cubs did get Starlin Castro to third base in the sixth inning with two out, but he couldn't score. The wind knocked down virtually every ball hit in the air Monday evening by both teams. Until the game-winning run was scored, Castro and the Padres' Cameron Maybin, who went to third base on an Aramis Ramirez error after a Jason Bartlett single, were the only runners to get to third.

Both teams were playing quickly, either because of the cold or that they wanted to get inside and watch the Bulls game, or both. An announced crowd of 36,592 couldn't have been more than about a third of that -- maybe 12,000 -- in the house, and even though the game went to the ninth inning in under two hours, a lot of people left after Len Kasper (dressed in a Snuggie, of all things) sang in the seventh inning. More people took off after the Cubs went out 1-2-3 in the last of the ninth; maybe 2,000 remained for the 10th inning as a light rain began to fall.

After Zambrano was lifted for a pinch-hitter in the last of the eighth, Mike Quade called on Sean Marshall, who immediately gave up a single to Chris Denorfia on his first pitch. After a sacrifice and a strikeout, Quade yanked Marshall for (presumably) the platoon advantage and brought in Carlos Marmol to face Jorge Cantu.

Since it all worked out OK, I guess I can't complain too much. But Marshall can get both righthanders and lefthanders out, and when Marmol hit Cantu with his first pitch, I feared the worst. Marmol, though, settled down and struck out Nick Hundley and had an uneventful 10th before the game-winning bottom of the inning. The game was played in a snappy two hours and 26 minutes, refreshing after the long, long games in Denver the last two days. That time would be fast for a nine-inning game, much less 10, these days.

In his postgame news conference remarks, Quade revealed that Kosuke Fukudome's wife is due to have a baby tomorrow (although he started by saying "Fukudome's going to have a baby", then corrected himself to note that his wife will actually do that). So congratulations to the Fukudomes, and Kosuke started the game-winning inning rally with a one-out walk. Quade said that, weather permitting, Colvin may get a start tomorrow and hopefully build on his game-winning double.

One more bit of history, if you'll indulge me on this cold night. The last 1-0, extra-inning Cubs win at Wrigley Field was this 16-inning win over the Astros on May 31, 2003. Zambrano started that game, too. Tonight marks the ninth time since 1969 that the Cubs have won a 1-0 extra inning game at Wrigley Field. As far as I can tell they have lost only one such game in that timeframe -- to the Cardinals in 11 innings on Sept. 5, 1976.

The Cubs moved to within a game of the first-place Reds after they lost to the Pirates Monday night. The weather forecast for tomorrow is worse than today's -- it's supposed to rain all day and evening. So we'll see if there's baseball. In the meantime, celebrate one of the rarer wins in recent years.

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Sorry Al

Thought I got my wrap in before yours. You can flip the order.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2011 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

No worries.

I’ll do that. Thanks. Was going to do it in the morning.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here in L.A.......

… I don’t know if this was mentioned anywhere else, but the Cub feed was blacked out. We got the Padres announcers, the play by play guy being Dick Enberg.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 18, 2011 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably because it was on WCIU.

That won’t be the case tomorrow.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I realize that

It was just neat to hear Enberg do baseball again. I haven’t heard him do that since he teamed with Don Drysdale doing the Angels in the 1970’s.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 18, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He does a fine job

although I almost choked when he told some story about Deacon Jones. I didn’t catch all of it so I’m really sure how it was relevant. Sounded like a bit of a senior moment.

Enberg is famous for tennis and college basketball, but he was a top baseball announcer for years. And for the most part, he still is.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Enberg was NBC's #1 guy on football for well over a decade, replacing Curt Gowdy

and who can ever forget him hosting Sports Challenge? I was about 8 years old, trying to play sports trivia

by holy mackeral on Apr 18, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some may recall Enberg

called the Bears 1985 Super Bowl win for NBC with the late Merlin Olson. To answer another question, no — Enberg is not hurting for money. Enberg lives in Rancho Santa Fe. The Padres came to him, and asked if he would be interested in pbp again.

At first, he thought he was just a bit old and it had been a long time since he did such a day-to-day job. However, Enberg reconsidered, and took the offer. I can assure you he is not working for a huge amount of money, as the Padres do NOT overpay their talent.

Unfortunately, a young talent that was hired out of Tulsa during the Moores regime(There’s that SD money factor again — give a good guy in a small market a bit more than he’s making to come to SD) was pushed aside for Enberg, but….that’s how the business operates.

In any event, Enberg may have a senior moment or two, but I’ll take his calm professionalism over Matt Vasgergian’s “too hip for the room” style during his tenure as lead Padres pbp.

But, it’s a generational thing. Young viewers seem to dislike Enberg. And, it’s because so many need to be entertained in more ways than just the game.

Thankfully, Len Kasper is carving out his own style as an old-schooler.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 19, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

Maybe it’s just Enberg. Plenty of younger viewers love Vin Scully, who is older than Enberg.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Scully is also in a unique position

Nobody who follows the Dodgers, unless they’re 70-plus years old and remember when they were in Brooklyn, can remember a time when he wasn’t doing their games.

IIRC, Enberg was a pretty good baseball announcer. But Padres fans who have grown up with “modern” announcers might find it a jolt to have an old-school septuagenarian now in the booth.

And to pick up on SDSJM’s point, I love Kasper, despite his tendency to sound like a pubescent boy when he gets excited. He grew up listening to Ernie Harwell and apparently has studied Brickhouse (witness the throwback broadcast vs. Atlanta in 2008), so his old-school credentials are obvious.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 19, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love Pat Hughes

and am only 28 (however I am just old enough to remember when we couldnt have sources from the internet for school papers).

I dont think he does anything over the top to entertain me

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

very informative, not as entertaining without Ron,

I love how he does play by play but he’s was definitely Santo’s straightman…still a fan, it’s just a little different.

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know when Bob Costas goes on and on and on about some irrelevant Olympian who just placed fourth?

About how she showed the true heart of a champion, even though she wasn’t, actually, a champion? And then it transforms into a discussion about his breakfast cereal that morning and a soliloquy about the beauty of a rainbow on a crisp spring morning, and then how his dog also has the heart of a champion?

That’s one of Dick Enberg’s Moments when talking about tennis. Please retire, Dick. If money is a problem, we can pass a hat. Just please let us remember you as something better than an old man with a wandering brain.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

the thock of the balls

going back and forth… the long rally… the squeak of the shoes on the court going up for a serve… these are things that God gave you…

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are worse Dicks out there

Stockton leaps to mind.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's so bad

I’m about to punch my television right now

by renke81 on Apr 18, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Punch the couch cushions

If you must punish the TV, throw the empties.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by D98 on Apr 18, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is it that

TWSS always catches me off guard and never gets old?? lol

by joejr728 on Apr 19, 2011 12:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wells supposedly played a little catch this afternoon.

No further word that I heard.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

No towel drills?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce Levine Says

Wells is going to start some light tossing and the Cubs are going to be more cautious with Cashner because it’s a shoulder injury. Levine speculating Casher is at least two weeks behind Wells in recovery time.

They gotta win the World Series sometime, right? Right?

by thehealinghandsoftonygarofalo on Apr 18, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please Wells be ok soon.

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

The college of coaches was about a decade before I was born

So I’ve only read about it. But this college of pitchers thing has pointed out just how grateful I am for 4th and 5th starters normally.

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

… props tonight to Carlos Pena, who laid down a perfect bunt — with two strikes on him — to defeat the infield shift.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

If Pedro Alvarez hadn't had his allotted one good defensive play of the season against us

That would be his second bunt for a hit. Ding aside, why haven’t we seen that since the first series of the year? Seems more obvious than expecting Fielder to do the same.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, practice makes perfect

as in the first one that went foul.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 18, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had that first one stayed fair...

… Pena could have wound up on second base.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda

like Hays making a bucket catch in Major League. “Dont ever let it happen again”

My pitchfork almost lit itself. 2 strikes!!

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It beats shifts

They shift, and the left-side bunt beats it. Why so angry?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am happy

who said it in the game thread?? He did it with 2 strikes…he/we were lucky.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the second time he's tried it

And Alvarez made an extremely un-Alvarez-like play to throw him out last time. I’d actually like to see it more, if it takes the shift away.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the idea

Ok. I do. But bunting with 2 strikes?? What would BCB be like it today/tomorrow if he did not get it down??

Second time he tried it?? Yes. First time with 2 strikes. Do not know the last time I saw a bunt with 2 strikes that was not a sacrifice or a pitcher. Let alone – a 10 mil a year power hitter.

I love the bunt attempt – but the 2 strike attempt strikes me as desperation

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It could very well be that

He hasn’t exactly been knocking the cover off the ball. If the guy’s not gonna give you the free pass, catch ’em all napping.

You’re right, though – that sorta crap works exactly once.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can probably put that bunt down 60% of the time.

And with that shift, it’s a hit 90% of the time. I like them odds.

BTW, tonight in the 500s was unfathomably cold.

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by D98 on Apr 18, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did the winter gloves work?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went with the parka and gloves. It worked.... adequately.

The wind blowing in at 25 MPH did NOT work well with section 525. It would have been rough at a Bears game, but at a Cubs game it just seemed unfair.

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by D98 on Apr 19, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me you moved down after the 8th

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

We moved down after the 5th.

It was a pretty empty night at the old ballpark.

Ultimately, we moved down to Casey Moran’s for the Bulls game. An all-around good night for Chicago sports. Cubs win, Bulls playoff win, Sox crushing defeat….

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by D98 on Apr 19, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I had tickets

I would have brought out the ski gear

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's still awesome.

If they’re going to shift like that, Pena runs and bunts well enough to punish them every time. It could be worth 20 hits this year.

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by D98 on Apr 18, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just trying to play both sides I guess

Frankly – as a fan. He got it down. I love it.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big hit for Colvin, he was due,

The wind really played a factor in this game, Ramirez and Pena both hit balls that could have been homers on other nights. Liked Pena’s bunt single too.

These are the kinds of games good teams need to win.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Apr 18, 2011 10:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Good outcome and better yet

Colvin drives in the winning run . Maybe this will spark him . The homestand starts out with a W . Cant ask for much more on such a brutal night .

by cubs north on Apr 18, 2011 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

He could do that.

There is such a list. But since the Cubs are home, I’m guessing he probably won’t, especially since there’s an off day this week.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I only caught the last three innings of this one, but it was fun.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Apr 18, 2011 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 18, 2011 11:11 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Great night for pitching

Cold, damp, and the wind knocking down any fly ball. Plenty of movement on pitches.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 18, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm spending much of the evening at BlogaBull.

And yes, I’m staying awake for probably another few minutes or so. Bulls lead 90-85 with 34.5 seconds left.

Dick Stockton announcing, and he’s been worse than awful.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2011 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I only get the TNT broadcast here.

My ears are bleeding.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

TNT announcing crew didn't notice a travel a few minutes ago,

And were complaining that the refs were giving the game to Chicago.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least Sager isn't there

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sager?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Craig Sager...

…The guy with the bad suits.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Apr 18, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wanna know what else I've seen him do?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Say it!

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 18, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Canoodle with wife #4 at the bar

While still married to wife #3. You want more?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You knew that much about Sager's personal life?

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 18, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was part-owner of my favorite sports bar in Atlanta

I lived around the corner from the “flagship” of the franchise, and it happened to be his favorite store to hang out in, as well. I had him in my NCAA pool for 8 years running – he never came close to winning, but his son took 2nd one year.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, awesome.

So how does he dress during his downtime?

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by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oxford and jeans

The loud suits really are an affectation. I saw him in shorts once – scarred me for life.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, disappointing.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cub fan, too

That bar would run shuttles to every major sporting event in town – you could take your beer on the bus and everything. Every year, he’d make it to one Braves-Cubs game on the shuttle, and every year, I’d end up sitting next to him on that bus. And every year he’d say, “Hey – I didn’t know you were a Cub fan!”

I looked up at TNT tonight, looked down and spat. “Aw sh*t! It’s f*ckin’ Sager!”

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just wondering

but did anyone notice the difference in HD quality between the TNT and the Comcast broadcasts? I couldn’t watch the Comcast feed. The TNT picture quality was much, much better.

by jerry morales rules on Apr 19, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think some networks have better HD gear

Cameras, broadcasting gear, whatever. For instance, NBC’s HD coverage of Sunday Night Football looks amazing – it blows away anything broadcast by Fox, CBS, or ESPN. Of course, they only have the one football game a week to cover, so they may dedicate their best gear to it, but the quality jump from watching a 3:00 game to watching SNF is incredible.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They use the same gear for ND games, btw.

"You've got to get your damn shirts rolled up and go out and kick somebody's ass. That's what you've got to do. Period." -- Lou Piniella

by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not only the gear

The amount of compression varies and there are several retransmission tiers between the broadcaster and the downstream stations. There’s no set bandwidth rules and cable/satellite operators are free to recompress signals as they choose.

by Danwood on Apr 19, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just checked this

But unbelievably, and as poorly as we’ve played at times, the Cubs are only a game behind first place Cincinnati.

This is going to be a wild season.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2011 11:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Apparently, they can't beat Pittsburgh either.

IT’S HAPPENING (for the Pirates)?!?!?!?!?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Except for Houston

We’ve got Cincy at 9-7 and everyone else at 8-8.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it possible that Pirates aren't quite as bad as they've been the last few years.

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I picked the Pirates to get out of last place, and I think they will.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

I’ll pick Houston. Pittsburgh’s rotation kinda sucks, but that lineup and pen are good.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good call

that batting line up has a lot of upside.

by Mitchener on Apr 19, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Heck, they have a chance for being tied for first tomorrow (if they aren’t rained out anyhow).

They gotta win the World Series sometime, right? Right?

by thehealinghandsoftonygarofalo on Apr 18, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulls win!

Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!

by Chanman25 on Apr 18, 2011 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't that game start 3.5 hours ago?

It’s like the Super Bowl every single night for two months!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

BULLS WIN!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2011 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Good to see them

Gore some of those runners in Pamplona.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 18, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woo hoo Bulls!

Love me some home cooking.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 18, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quade said in his press conference he doesn't like bunting or playing small ball

For some reason, I’m not encouraged by that. Good thing the Cubs aren’t built on that style of game, but on nights like tonight, you have to play small ball.

by braziliancubsfan on Apr 18, 2011 11:36 PM CDT reply actions  

well this team

isnt exactly built for small ball…

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

to be honest/fair

what is this team built for? we arent a homerun team, we arent a fast team, we arent a pitchers team?

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by epsilon on Apr 19, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

if the starting rotation was healthy and the top 3 were performing well we would be a pitching team…we do have a decent bullpen – the lineup is more about power than steals, bunting and slap singles

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, this team is kind of built to be a homerun team.

Soriano, Pena, Ramirez, and Colvin are expected to hit HRs. But in reality, we aren’t a real HR hitting team outside of Soriano and maybe Ramirez once it warms up.

Last night worried me, I didn’t think we’d win because our hitters kept hitting high fly balls to the outfield that had no chance of getting out for a HR or down for a hit. Last night’s game is the kind of game a slap hitting team with some speed and bunting ability could win.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pena hit 28 HR last year in a bad year.

The three previous years, he averaged 39 HR a season — in a pitcher’s park.

I’m guessing that when it starts warming up, so will Pena.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pena crushed that ball in the ninth to the opposite field.

That ball would have been on Waveland most days. And Ramirez is a slow starter.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

There were several fly balls hit last night that would have been out on most days, or at least doubles off the wall.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Careless omission on my part,

I agree with you, he hit at least one, maybe two that could have been HRs last night. I expect Pena to hit around 25 this year.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could have

seen this game. Glad they got the win though!

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by sue369 on Apr 18, 2011 11:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Could not watch either game

Went with the wife to see the movie Hannah

Movie was terrible – sucked.

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by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Different flick, same sentiment.

http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20110323

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by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The home plate ump

I forgot his name but he seems to “punch out guys” as if he is attempting to catch several barrels falling from the ceiling.

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by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

???

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by Clutch16 on Apr 18, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

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by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That may be the best post I've ever seen. How is that done?

Is there some kind of Donkey Kong font, or is that a GIF with a BCB-colored background?

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by D98 on Apr 18, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much as I'd love to say that it was painstakingly-crafted ASCII magic

It’s an anigif.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was Tom Hallion.

Never heard of him before.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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Hallion has been around for a while.

He started as an NL umpire in 1985. He was one of the umps fired in the labor dispute after 1999, but was rehired in 2005. So he’s got more than 20 years experience.

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You've never heard of...

…Tom “The Hellion” Hallion? One of the best punch-out artists in the league.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Brenly

referred to him as the “Luis Tiant of umpires.”

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that 1-0 16 inning Houston game on 5/31/03

it was extremely cold at Wrigley, and we couldnt imagine that June was merely hours away. I stayed for that entire game. I specifically recall my GF heading to the bar around the 8th inning, shivering. Sosa struck out his first 4 times, then got a standing ovation for grounding out, but he got the last laugh with game winning hit. 3 days later, he got busted for Cork.

by holy mackeral on Apr 18, 2011 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

- Hammer

“Oh no”

(Mother/Brother walks in)

 - Hammer hangs head in shame. Speechless

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by Hammer on Apr 18, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al, there was another 9 inning shutout at Wrigley on 5/17/88. St L scored 3 in 11th to win 3-0

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN198805170.shtml Maddux was brilliant, and still in there in the 11th. With 2 out, Luis Alicea’s routine grounder hit a stone and bounced over Ryno’s head, and 2 runs scored. You referenced 1-0 extra inning games, but this was almost the same thing.

by holy mackeral on Apr 18, 2011 11:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Cubs Win! Bulls Win!

That makes another abysmal broadcast by Dick Stockton on the Bulls game a lot more managable.

Great night!!!

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by mikegncb34 on Apr 18, 2011 11:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Garza and Pena...

…have not been good this year, but I love how much they care about winning. Reminds me of DeRo.

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by cubswynn on Apr 19, 2011 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

On ESPN Baseball Tonight

Sam Fuld was referred to as “former Cubs great”

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

They finished the show

gushing over him. I think I hear “best player in the AL”

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees trade offer coming in 3...2...

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was pretty funny

I keep thinking either I am dreaming or stumbled into Dan’s nightmare.

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by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was like they were stuck on his name for the last 2 minutes of the show

I know they were pimping the web gems voting. It was funny. I’m sure others in your burrough were saying “Sam Frickin’ Who?”

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by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW

That is part of Steve Berthiaume’s schtick. He labels all sorts of players “former greats”, most prominently with his beloved Red Sox.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Apr 19, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least it isn't Souvenir City

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by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why didn't Quade PR for Soto?

Obviously it didn’t matter, but considering the Cubs had used Marmol and San Diego still had Bell to pitch, I’m suprised Quade didn’t see pinch running for Soto as perhaps the Cub’s best chance to win.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Apr 19, 2011 12:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe if Soto gets to second.

But who would have known Soto would have scored from first?!

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by cubswynn on Apr 19, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was just typing this.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who would PR?

Colvin or Coleman?

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reed Johnson?

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Apr 19, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aw, hell

That made me laugh. Well-played, sir.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeJesus or Dernier were my next choices.

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by BucknerKongCardenal on Apr 19, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll bet Bobby's still got some wheels

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

GL Brother

His girl just went into labor. Uncle Hammer

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

He and Dome can correspond

About midnight feedings and running out to Dominick’s for more diapers.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hells yeah

May be in the same hospital – Highland Park – who knows.

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its been a while since I've posted.

But i’ve still been lurking around here because, well hell, i’m a Cubs fan for life come hell or high water.

Anyway, from my observations, this teams offense has been a lot better than most people are giving it credit for, and others are going crazy over losses that really haven’t been that bad. Every team has games where they don’t even look like they should be playing above AA. I just feel like there have been too many knee-jerk reactions about player’s performances. Give them some room for error, after all they are humans.

I think Al said it best. We’re only one game out. The central certainly doesn’t have a clear cut winner and the cubs do have a shot at taking it. But don’t freak out because we don’t win 97 games again.

Anyway, just my opinion. Go Cubs!

by cubsfaninatl on Apr 19, 2011 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome back

I’ll just say that scoreboard-watching in April may not be the best move for anyone’s mental health. But when have we ever cared about that?

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's funny

I was a work so missed the game but not a single comment in this as always enjoyable thread (except Al’s article) about Big Z’s apparently very fine start in the cold. Weird.

by abba7 on Apr 19, 2011 1:04 AM CDT reply actions  

It's a question I have myself

I missed everything – I basically logged on and saw the celebration photos being posted. How did Z look? Lots of ground balls? Some impatience from the other side? What’s the word, y’all?

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zambrano was very dominant

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by BeerCub on Apr 19, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 10 strikeouts tell you..

… that he was dealing. Five of the 10 K’s were called, and he threw 69 strikes in 110 pitches.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't get too excited...

…about a good pitching performance in that kind of weather, as it tends to make even average pitchers look like studs. The other team threw a shutout through nine as well, which tells you the effect the weather had.

Just as cold weather can make a pitcher look much better, those 85 degree days with the wind blowing out can do the opposite.

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by MPH73 on Apr 19, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

On weather and attendance.

The biggest laugh of the evening was the announcement of the 36K+ attendance. I know, I know… tickets sold… but people were looking around very confused.

I was actually surprised how many people were at the game. We had a group over in section 237. The bleachers seemed fairly well populated (by no means packed, but a decent group) and the rest of the stands seemed to have roughly one body to match up with each empty seat. So I’d guess the attendance was closer to 17-19K… and I’ll be interested to see what the number the reporters stab at.

We were among those who left after the ninth… as some in our group were going into near seizure status with chills and shaking. It was the coldest game I’ve ever been to, though I’m sure there have been several colder games.

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by fsuapollo on Apr 19, 2011 1:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey

Good for you for sticking around!! Fun ending!!

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't my choice to leave.

Groupthink got the best of others ill-prepared for the weather.

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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST

by fsuapollo on Apr 19, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll stick with my estimate of 12,000.

The bleachers were about 2/3 full. But wide swaths of the rest of the park were empty.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The TV angles they were showing

made it look surprisingly crowded. Just from seeing that I would have guessed more.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

From my seat...

We were guessing 18-20 K in the park. THe bleachers looked fuller than Iwould have thought on a day like yesterday. The “bowl” did have holes all around, but there were more people there than we all expected. You are right, however, in talking how the people left in droves. I was among the ones there at the end (though I was planning on leaving after the 10th no matter what)

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by kaseyi on Apr 19, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

18-20 K....

… would mean the park was half full. It wasn’t even close to half full.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

My area… surprisingly packed. a lot of other areas I saw pretty well occupied. downstairs, under the stands..a lot of people. I’ll say maybe the 20K is high, but I would say the 18K is realistic

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by kaseyi on Apr 19, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

Al’s 12K estimate is way low. The bleachers were pretty packed last night, and surprisingly the grandstands had a fair amount of people scattered throughout.

by kanderber on Apr 19, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looked like maybe 3,500 in the bleachers.

But everywhere else was WAY scattered, particularly the upper deck. I’ll stick with 12,000 — maybe 14,000 tops.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was there, too -- and I was thinking closer to 20,000.

But I couldn’t see the upper deck. Field level and the bleachers were a lot more crowded than I expected.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's cuz we all sneaked down to field level!

I had 500 level seats. But the ushers weren’t really doing much other than guarding the 100 level. So I sat with a bunch of people whom I must assume did the same thing that I did.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Maybe. I figured like 2,000 people would be there last night, though, given the weather and the Bulls game.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

True.

It did start emptying out pretty fast after 8:30.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are they so...

anal about not letting people down lower at games like this? If nothing else, you’d think that the Cubs would encourage people to move down so that, on TV, it appears that there are a lot more people there.

by kanderber on Apr 19, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a solution to this problem

If you have access to venture capital and are willing to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement, I’d love to tell you about it.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well..

I still felt you were low, so I emailed our buddy Bruce Miles (before you made this 14K revision). He said 15K. Still all in all, a good crowd considering the weather and the Bulls.

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by kaseyi on Apr 19, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

From what I could tell on TV...

…the attendance wasn’t nearly as bad as I expected.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I kept thinking ...

that a bunch of people must have bought tickets in advance. It was the first night game of 2011.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was also a bronze game

so tickets were the cheapest.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 19, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Listening to the archive now

Not only is the series of 1:1, 2:2, 3:3….8:8 standings kind of neat, there are 4 teams in the division with identical .500 records and the first place reds are only a game better.

A really tight pennant race in late April? ;-)

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 19, 2011 1:25 AM CDT reply actions  

It was really good to see the celebration afterwards.

Here’s a pic:

But here’s the BEST pic of the night:

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 19, 2011 7:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't know how well they'll do this year but

this team really seems to pull for each other. They seem to care more about winning than last years team. Did you see how excited they were, especially Castro, after the game. I watched a walk-off last year where they seemed to go through the motions, like they knew they were supposed to gather around home plate. Maybe I’m wrong but they seem to have the right chemistry.

by Rick B on Apr 19, 2011 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Len Kasper (dressed in a Snuggie, of all things)

Was it a Cubbie Snuggie?

The game was a little nerve-wracking, but I can’t imagine what it was like in the weather. A good thing to see them win a one-run game, and also good to see all the celebration. I think these guys like playing together.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2011 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs are 3-2 in one-run games.

Last year, they won their third one-run game on… May 12, at which time they were 3-7 in one-run games.

So at least there, there is already improvement.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear Tyler Colvin got an e-mail...

…from Ryne Sandberg before last night’s game.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Tyler:

U need to wuk on ur clutchness. I dont stand for medicrity.

Hugs,

Ryno

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

bwahahahahaha

Hugs! and do you think ryne ever really signs his name Ryno?

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by epsilon on Apr 19, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a nice stat and all,

but how much of that is related to the quality of opponent we’ve played in the one run games this year compared to last year?

One run wins are always nice. ALWAYS. But it may not be quite the road map for improvement you’re hoping it is.

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by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

it was a Tom Skilling Snuggie

From Paul Sullivans Twitpic
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by kaseyi on Apr 19, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um...awkward.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's even dumber IMHO

is that he’s not wearing a hat.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only good thing about that photo

Is that it’s out in the wild. No one can use it for blackmail material.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I, uh...

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a Tom Skilling snuggie.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I only had radio last night and I'm warming to Keith Moreland.

I miss the banter between Ron and Pat but Moreland is definitely picking up the pace. Who would not be comfortable talking with Pat Hughes?

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Apr 19, 2011 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Moreland is doing a great job

Seems like he and Hughes are building a rapport, and he’s actually telling me something about the game I couldn’t see/hear for myself.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 19, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

They should let Moreland handle the 5th by himself.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

how do I send in my resume?

My voice is at least as good as Sirott and I think I could handle PBP/Color duties for 1 inning a game

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go for it

None of us can be any worse, right? (In fairness to Sirott, his work on the Blackhawks is just fine.)

by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 19, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The missus hates Carlos Zambrano

because he keeps grabbing his crotch.

I was going to tell you guys this his last start. In the third inning, no sooner did she come in from the kitchen to sit by me on the couch, when they showed a full-length view of him on the mound giving it a big old yank. She wasn’t amused, but I laughed the rest of the evening. If he pitches like he did tonight, he can yank it all he wants. ;-)

by NWIowaCubFan on Apr 19, 2011 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep. That's Z's MO

Saw him pitch at Wrigley and I was astounded at his pitch-and-yank

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by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

If he pitches like he did last night, he can yank his boys all he wants. Just as long as he doesn’t injure something :)

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"In other news, the Cubs have placed Carlos Zambrano on the 15-day DL"

“It is reported that he is suffering from a pulled groin.”

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

YSWHDT or YFWHDT?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did put "as long as he doesn't injure something"

:)

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't bother me at all.

It’s when he walks back from the mound muttering to himself all hyped up that I roll my eyes and think “he’s nuts.”

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

new rule...

if a starting pitcher throws 7+ innings of shutout baseball and his team eventually wins, he should get the W. I know it’s not that big of a deal but SP stat lines are scrutinized for Ws vs. Ls more than a closers. just a thought!

by cubbiefanTN on Apr 19, 2011 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

which is why

the W is the most worthless stat around outside of generic discussion – its one thing to say that Z is a 15-18 win pitcher (meaning above average) and that Roy Halladay is a 20 W pitcher (ace and one of the best in the league) but a whole different thing to get hung up on the fact that Hernandez was a 13 game winner last year…

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Z was 2-0 coming into the game with an ERA over 6.

I’d say, in this particular instance, that Z’s win total is about right. He should have gotten a win last night and not gotten a win in either Houston or Milwaukee.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

fair point...

to all of you… i guess there are plenty of times the offense completely lets a SP down in terms of run support. i believe the starter for San Diego tonight is 0-3 despite an ERA below 3.

by cubbiefanTN on Apr 19, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it a touch under 2.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

so then...

is the Cy Young Award now more like the Heisman. Better be the best pitcher on the best team? Not saying Z or Moseley are in that conversation but is that the trend? Or is this the case where it will even out over the course of the year? ie, if Moseley can keep his ERA down, then he will be in contention because if we will still have a decent number of Ws.

by cubbiefanTN on Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all.

Felix Hernandez won it last year for the Mariners, despite “winning” only 13 games.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cy Young voting ...

seems a lot more progressive than other awards voting (like Gold Gloves).

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

what?!

Youre saying that a certain Yankee didnt deserve the Gold Glove last year?

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't gold gloves

voted on by managers/coaches?

The rest of the awards are vote on by writers.

Baseball is back!!

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Yeah, Gold Gloves are...

…voted on by managers and coaches.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jeter winning last year

should be enough evidence that it needs to be taken away from them

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've learning the basics of sabermetrics

There is a chapter about evaluating fielder and explaining the basics of range factor.

The examples compare from 2000-2006 Jeter, Adam Everett and Rafael Furcal.

I didn’t realize just how bad of ss Jeter was. This was in his prime

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, you're right...

my memory was off just a bit. his ERA is 1.83. hopefully we can make him 0-4 and cause his ERA to spike to double digits, one can hope!!

by cubbiefanTN on Apr 19, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sadly, we're sending James Russell to the mound.

Which should be a candidate for the next round of “Bad Idea Jeans” commercials.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

probably not

I would imagine that, barring a DH, they would simply skip his turn in the rotation

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs agree to a DH, then we're in real trouble

I can’t imagine a worse way to tax the bullpen than playing a double header AND having one of those games being a “college of pitchers” game.

Which is why I think they will work hard to avoid a double header

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then their best choice...

… is to postpone the game and not announce a makeup date, saving it for later if necessary.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or they could call up a someone capable of throwing 100 pitches from AAA.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

they should have done that from the start

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

We should expect a DH, right?

I mean, given the two teams’ mutual off days the rest of the year …

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

which won't help out experiment

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, it might.

Coleman could pitch Game 2 on four days rest. Dempster could go Friday on regular rest, Z Saturday on five.

Garza would have to go Sunday on four days.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs

may want to see about postponing game 2 until the end of the year then…

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

If and when a DH happens, what would the likely first pitch times be?

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by eths on Apr 19, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would likely be a straight DH, not a split DH...

… there’s no way the Padres would agree to a split DH on getaway day, particularly since the weather is still iffy on Wednesday.

Most likely, a noon CDT start.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the first game is a quickie then I might be able to watch both live... :-)

Assuming, of course, today’s game doesn’t take place.

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by eths on Apr 19, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which game would be played first?

The make-up game? Or the scheduled game for Wednesday?

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't matter, as it's a straight DH.

Usually, in that circumstance, the first game is considered the “scheduled” game.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well in my case it does matter,

I have tickets for the scheduled game and would not want to show up to a game I don’t have tickets for, but would consider doing both since I’m sure cheap tickets could be had.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I see what you're saying.

In a straight DH, your tickets are good for BOTH games.

There’s not enough notice to play a split DH tomorrow, plus the weather’s not supposed to be much better.

Note my suggestion of playing this game on June 23 below. I think that’s the best possible scenario.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, thanks for the info.

Now I’m kinda selfishly hoping for a straight DH.

As for the weather, I recently saw a forecast of 45 degrees and 30% chance of rain, in the PM.

And yes, the June 23 idea does make sense, I’d see them probably doing that.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

They’d have to skip him, Garza will be on normal rest.

Tomorrow is my first game of the year and there is no way I’m letting James Russell ruin that.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I talked about in the pregame thread ...

I decided to go to the game by myself after my parents bailed on me — they didn’t want to drive three hours to sit in the cold/rain. My fiance was traveling for business.

So I went alone, listened to Pat and Zonk and had a pretty good time. It was hella cold, but the result was worth it. It was also nice to see Z on his game. The Colvin double in the 10th was the most excited I’ve been while at Wrigley since Aramis’ granny against the Phillies in August 2008.

Anyway, and where’s Mr. We-should-send-Colvin-to-Iowa — i.e. Easy Ed? :)

Last point: I think Z going an extra inning will play big tonight with (sigh) Russell on the mound. I wouldn’t be shocked if Wood closes, because Marmol threw a lot of pitches.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

23 pitches for Marmol.

That isn’t that many.

And I wonder if the Cubs had an idea they might have to postpone tonight’s game. It looks like it’s going to be just as cold — except add some rain and thunder into the evening. Yuck.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's all?

Wow — he whipped through those guys, then.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

In retrospect.

I think I’m still trying to thaw out.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

And I still say ...

I had character in spades BEFORE last night’s game, Bruce. ;)

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just because you *are* a character

Doesn’t mean you have character.

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, that was me...

I stand corrected. Thank you for reminding me.

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You weren't sitting along the left field line...

…wearing a baseball cap and headphones were you?

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I always wondered ...

what Bartman was hearing about HIMSELF while that was happening.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ew-never thought of that.

But I do think of him whenever I wear my earphones at a game.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is that he wasn't paying much attention to Pat's call ...

or that he couldn’t hear because of what was going on around him. But if I’m wrong …

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Yeah, that must've been surreal.

Can’t really come up with an appropriate metaphor.

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel ya,

I was supposed to go to Opening Day 2 years ago with my grandparents and my uncle, I showed up, the other 3 didn’t. Its kinda awkward sitting alone for 9 innings. The best/worst part: I sat 10 rows behind the plate, but didn’t have the other tickets to scalp, and my friends at the game couldn’t sneak down to sit with me because the little old ladies who patrol that section are highly suspicious of young people/not rich people sitting in those seats.

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by tripdenten on Apr 19, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm right here, el...

what’s that old saying about a blind squirrel?

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha. I KNEW you'd say something like that, Ed.

Colvin’s gonna end up being better than you expect and worse than I expect. My only hope is that he’s good enough to man right field next season, as a way to sort of balance out the Soriano contract.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that...next season...

…right now he’s wasting away, when he could be getting 400 ABs in Iowa. He’ll be ALOT better when he can play everyday. He’s blocked by humungous contracts right now. Fair? No. Unless someone gets hurt, he’s screwed this season.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're assuming that Kosuke will keep up his current pace.

And, frankly, we have three years of evidence to the contrary. At that point, Colvin moves in and takes the everyday job, IMO. Two things that could change the math:

1) If Byrd keeps struggling, I could see Quade putting Kosuke back in the leadoff spot and hitting Castro third. There are a lot of “Castro could hit anywhere” comments coming from Hendry and Q. If Kosuke does well leading off and Castro is good hitting third …

2) Colvin shows he’s a good bat off the bench. Last night was a step in the right direction, and our next best pinch hitter is either Blake DeWitt or Reed Johnson (yuck).

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not with 3 outfielders...

…making $40M+ between themselves. Colvin is odd man out. The .220 OBP doesn’t help his cause either.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He got 395 plate appearances last season...

…and Quade seems pretty diligent about working him into the lineup or using him late in games. If he stays as cold as he’s been, maybe they will send him down eventually. But who becomes the fourth outfielder then? Reed Johnson? Fernando Perez?

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by daver on Apr 19, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worse, who becomes the top bat off the bench?

Blake DeWitt?

Also, it makes sense to keep Colvin around because a) Kosuke will have a horrendous slump b) Soriano will get dinged up and c) Byrd might need a day off against a tough right hander.

Colvin’s easier to access in those situations if he’s in Chicago and not Des Moines.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would bat Colvin 3rd today....

I know, I know, he has a low avg and has been struggling……

But Byrd has been useless and I would like to see what Colvin could do when getting some pitches to hit while batting ahead of Rami. Maybe that would get him going.

You can’t put someone who is prone to many strikeouts 8th in the order. Its asking for trouble. I would never put Soriano there either.

by TJ11 on Apr 19, 2011 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

No, TJ.

Move Aramis to the third spot, Soriano to cleanup, Byrd to sixth. Pena fifth, Colvin seventh.

One double doesn’t make Colvin fixed yet.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm totally with you that Byrd shouldn't be hitting third.

BTW, Moreland kept talking last night about how Pena is really squaring on the ball, and that good things are coming. That could change our current lineup math.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hitting the ball is better than running to third and pounding on the base?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 19, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

unless you then proceed

to throw a rosin bag “grenade”

then I would actually prefer the latter

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to nitpick but saying good things are coming

is a hopeful statement. I do believe he does have a good point and that can be the case. But the question is how soon. We are a few weeks into the season already.

Is it like the midwest spring so far, you know it’s suppose to be happening and you know eventually it will……………… but the question is when. Week, month etc.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

well the groundhog

couldnt even get out of his hole so there may never again be summer…but the Cubs will win it all…

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah -- I'm just repeating what Moreland said.

And Moreland is clearly a ridiculous optimist at times, though I think he’s doing a good job.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Ted Lilly pitched last night for the Dodgers. LA doesn’t have Thursday off — so Ted should start at Wrigley on Saturday, against Ryan Dempster. Interesting matchup.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Awww

I was really really hoping that Lilly won’t pitch in this series. :( But I’ll be home visiting my family for Easter so I will miss the game.

Go Cubs! Lit up Lilly!!!!!!!!!!

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ted

Loves Wrigley Field when the wind is blowing out.

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by vonde6 on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's going to be painful darnit

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by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any idea yet if the game will be played?

I know it’s still early

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Still early.

There’s a ton of rain headed this way. Personally, I wouldn’t mind if it rained until midnight and they called it. Conditions last night were pretty miserable.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only saving grace last night ...

was that it wasn’t raining until the very end. Rain (or snow/sleet) tonight would be really terrible.

Getting last night in was pretty big. If they need to schedule a DH tomorrow, it’s doable considering that the teams played last night.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wunderground.com says there is a 91% chance of rain, FWIW...

http://www.wunderground.com/sports/MLB/hometeam/Chicago:Cubs.html?st=1303243500

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by eths on Apr 19, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

IF a DH was played tomorrow

instead of a game today… would that help Cubs pitching out?

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, Garza is set for Wednesday, and there's an off day Thursday.

Coleman pitched Saturday, so he would be going on four days rest instead of the normal five. But Dempster would be on five days rest on Friday against the Dodgers.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

so the question is

can Coleman go on four days rest after his first big league start of the season?

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's started twice.

Milwaukee and Colorado. But the question still stands.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

It rained REALLY hard this morning in Iowa City (4 hours West of Chicago).

Then about an hour ago turned to sleet/icy mix, so looks promising to miss Russel’s start.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting point about Soto last night.

Moreland talked for a little while about Soto being overly aggressive when he hits higher in the lineup. He said that hitting eighth, Soto has to take more pitches and be more selective — which, Moreland correctly noted — is part of Geo’s game.

I think this — combined with Geo’s relative struggles with RISP — is why both Lou and Quade tend to piss us off by hitting Soto so low in the order.

I’m not saying I agree with this approach (I’m undecided, really). But I think the calls for Soto to hit third are overblown. Soto has been much better hitting seventh or eighth than fifth or sixth, http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=sotoge01&year=Career&t=b. And he hasn’t really hit anywhere else with a decent sample size.

We’ve been arguing that Soto is too good to hit so low in the order. It’s possible that he’s only that good BECAUSE he hits low in the order.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe.

Frankly, I kind of wonder how he’d do hitting second …

Castro
Soto
Ramirez
Soriano
Pena
Byrd
Fukudome/Colvin
Barney

No more right handed at the top than what we have now. I doubt it will ever happen — Quade isn’t unconventional enough to put someone as slow as Soto as the No. 2 hitter — but I’d like to see it.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we put Fukudome 3rd in lineup.

Right now with Castro being hot as the sun, and Barney playing well; both of them are getting on base enough for the clean-up hitter to get to the plate in the 1st inning. Fukudome will take more walks than Byrd (he is the black hole of walks) and have more RBI chances for Rami in the clean up spot.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know how you feel about Kosuke

… and I don’t share that feeling.

However, I agree that he should NEVER bat third.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't think of a better solution to the 3rd spot in the lineup, though.

Besides Castro, and you can’t take him out of the lead-off spot because he’s too hot. I think Rami would scoff at the idea of not being clean-up and loaf around the field.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, let's be clear.

I don’t think Kosuke is useless. I think he’s unreliable and horribly inconsistent — and those are not qualities you want in the No. 3 spot for the long haul.

Do you really disagree on that? Note that I don’t want Byrd to hit third, either.

As Subterfuge correctly pointed out, Kosuke’s not going to hit as well after mid-May or thereabouts. We have THREE seasons of proof to that effect.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

I forgot to add that this IS NOT a solution after May 14th.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah ...

Castro, Barney, Ramirez, Soriano, Pena, Byrd, Colvin, Soto makes sense — and it wouldn’t seem to be the kind of lineup Quade would blink at.

BTW, all the talk of how Soriano needs to get comfortable in a spot seems overblown. He’s already been moved, quietly, from seventh to sixth — and it doesn’t seem to have affected him.

Of course, maybe that kind of a move is inconsequential.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like this lineup except....to me the Ramirez-Soriano sequense reminds me of DLee-Ramirez last year....

I’d put Pena in between :)

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by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Moreland is right about Pena ...

that he’s about to get really hot, then I’d be with you on that.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's "really hot" for a guy hitting his weight?

16 games into the season and Zambrano has more HRs than our $10M 1B? Somethin’ wrong with that picture.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pena absolutely crushed that ball in the ninth yesterday.

I totally agree that he’s been disappointing. What I’m saying is that Moreland is seeing some signs that he’s about to get hot.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only 10% of the season is gone.

Get hot for a month and this will be mostly forgotten.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

10% already? that makes me sad :(

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by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...when you say it like that it does.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!

much better :)

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by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-4 with a walk and a homer

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

not to egg ya on....but Z doesn't play every game either :)

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by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't Lou that much credit

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team is not so bad.

I truly believe that. They’re not good, but way more likable than the past couple years.

by SenorGato on Apr 19, 2011 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

But it'd be difficult to be more unlikable than 2009

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

2004

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I normally don’t really care if my team is all that likeable or not, but man, that team was something else.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Guys seemed to become more unlikeable that year. Moises Alou, in particular.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

As was once said to me

“The Cubs say they don’t want to be loveable losers anymore. Well, they certainly no longer are loveable.”

by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 19, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

About Colvin,

When they brought him in, I thought to myself “Oh great, now we’ll have to worry about winning this game in the bottom of the eleventh.”

Guess I shouldn’t count the third out until it’s actually recorded.

How is the weather looking for today?

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 19, 2011 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Awful.

It’s raining right now and looks like it’s going to rain harder.

Seriously, why they’d risk injury to players in these conditions is beyond me. They should call the game off now.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed. They should.

But don’t count on it. Keep warm.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Cubs would be happy for a rain out

if they can reschedule for a warmer day later.

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given that neither or these teams seems postseason bound ...

I’d guess that we could “reschedule” the game for never. They don’t have many common off days later in the year.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is only one possible date (past Wednesday) when this game could be made up.

That would be June 23. The Cubs are finishing up a series at the Cell before heading to Kansas City and have that day off.

The Padres are in Boston on June 22, have June 23 off, then go home for the weekend. They could stop in Chicago on the way. Making up that game that day wouldn’t break the 20-consecutive-day rule for either team (Cubs have 6/27 off, Padres have 6/30 off).

There! Problem solved. Postpone the game now, play it on June 23. When the weather will be better. (I hope.)

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or just do a DH tomorrow.

Whatever is necessary to avoid a Russell start.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you do a DH tomorrow, Russell probably has to start.

Otherwise, you’re throwing several pitchers on short rest.

My scenario works. Plus, they’d draw better on June 23. IIRC, too, if a night game is postponed, they can make it up as a night game — which would make sense, since the Cubs play Wednesday night, June 22 at the Cell.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

A DH tomorrow would at best push Russell till Sunday

my guess is Quade would just get it over with tomorrow.

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Coleman would have to go on four days tomorrow, and Garza would have to go on four days Sunday.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, you're right.

Three days rest, four days between starts.

My bad. Well, maybe somebody else could get here by Sunday. Trey McNutt’s off the DL.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like it, but May 5 is also a mutual off day with enough days off for

contract. There may be a few others as well. Too tired to check

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by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

The contract with player's association

requires only a certain number of consecutive games without approval of players. I believe it’s 20 consecutive games. You can play more than 20 but have to get players on each team to vote to agree to do so.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 19, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

The May 5 date is not doable.

It’s in the middle of a Padres homestand. There’s no way they would agree to fly to Chicago to play one game in the middle of a homestand.

The June 23 scenario is much more realistic.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is clearly much better, but IF the Cubs

insisted I don’t think the Padres have a choice unless it violates the contract. The Mets were understandably livid at having to play TWO double headers in 3 days last week, but they had no choice as it was the Nats decision on the 2nd one which at the very least could have been scheduled at a later homestand.

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the most infamous moments

Al can fill in details because I can’t remember who the opponent was.
It was raining cats & dogs in Chicago and was in fact due to rain all day & night. The White Sox had a day game which was clearly going to be rained out, it was I believe late in the season and a make up game was very difficult. Either the Sox or the opposing team (or both) refused to waive the 20 day clause for whatever make up day the Sox management wanted. Under baseball rules it is the home team not the umpires who must decide to call a game BEFORE it starts. The White Sox forced both teams to stay till some time late in the evening despite zero chance the weather would clear in an attempt to make them agree to the make up game date and waive the 20 day rule. They refused, but were at the park about 12 hours for a game that should have been called.

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was on August 12, 1990.

It was the Texas Rangers in town, their last game in Chicago for the season. You’re right, they knew they weren’t going to be able to play and had no makeup dates. Larry Himes was the Sox GM. He made them stay for SEVEN HOURS until they called the game a little after 8 pm. The Rangers were furious, but they got the last laugh. The game was made up in Texas, so they got the gate instead of the Sox.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Another infamous act by Larry

“we can get two or 3 pitchers for the cost of you " ( to Maddux)
Himes

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course ...

Himes was a moron because the starter he got to replace Maddux was Jose freaking Guzman.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're getting your years mixed up.

Danny Jackson and Dave Smith were signed to play on the ’91 team, which also included Maddux.

Himes signed Guzman and Randy Myers in the same offseason where he let Maddux go to the Bravos.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

My weather.com app

says there’s 100% chance of rain during gametime.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 19, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the National Weather Service forecast
Today: Rain and possibly a thunderstorm before 2pm, then rain between 2pm and 4pm, then rain and possibly a thunderstorm after 4pm. Some of the storms could produce small hail and gusty winds. High near 42. Breezy, with a east northeast wind between 15 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.

Tonight: Rain and possibly a thunderstorm before 1am, then a chance of rain. Some of the storms could produce small hail and gusty winds. Low around 40. North northwest wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Seriously. CALL THE GAME OFF ALREADY!

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alllllrighty then.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You laugh.

But they do. They have told me that they do.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

and they obviously don't use it as a barometer for

how the fanbase sees anything to do with them.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like that job

Monitor cub fan websites. I could be pretty good @ that job. I wonder if it pays well

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that they do view it and gauge and the fanbase

There are a lot of competing factors here and let’s not forget that it’s a business. They aren’t just going to do what the fanbase wants because fans want them to.

by jerry morales rules on Apr 19, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm convinced that sports radio guys

lurk here for show ideas. I’m sure of it. I remember a few years ago there was a very specific conversation here about something. Later on that afternoon, I heard the same topic on the radio. It could have been coincidence, but I don’t think so.

by jerry morales rules on Apr 19, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, we know of at least one guy who discusses this stuff for a living who reads us

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/9/8/1676064/cubs-silva-have-disinterested-loss#46245544

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by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm sure they do...

I was laughing at the implication that your desire for them to “call the game off already” will in the least bit factor into their decision to actually do so.

by kanderber on Apr 19, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know that.

I’m just expressing my opinion, just like everyone else here.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are reading Jim

No one likes you and we want you fired.

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seconded

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

My buddy is giving his away for tomorrow

Literally – cannot give them away.

Haha Ricketts – go do more Undercover Boss. You cannot clean a toilet or sell a hotdog but you run a great team!!

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow this pitcher for the Pads is..

Pretty amazing..noone has scored more then a run when he’s pitched so far. And we got Russell who gives away runs like candy..ohhh good.

by bleedinblue76 on Apr 19, 2011 11:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

That's why we need to hope for a rainout.

A DH tomorrow would allow Coleman and Garza to throw. A postponement till June would be eve better.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

And the earlier they call it off, the better.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just to say it again. Castro rules!

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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Apr 19, 2011 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Castro for president!

I’ve said this before! Lol.

by bleedinblue76 on Apr 19, 2011 11:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no, no, no....General Secretary!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is truly one of your all time greats

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love it but perhaps you need to photoshop

him into an army fatigues uniform like El Presidente

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 19, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Al, when the game gets cancelled...

let us have the gamethreads anyway….we’ll think of something to do.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Scared, mommy

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 19, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

Presuming the game does get postponed, I’ll post a rainout thread.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

or a "let's trade DeWitt and a AA player for Orlando Cabrera"?

A team finds him and can’t do anything but win. THE INDIANS?! Roger Dorn has the karma working again.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Smokies and the D-Cubs

should play tonight. Doubt the Chiefs will.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 19, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

see below

The Smoked PeacePipe while it Rains in Daytona thread, sponsered by Sam Fuld’s Greatness

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nononono... we need a FULD thread

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by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Side note for discussion

Bryd hitting 3rd is killing this team. He destroyed two rallies on Sunday in Colorado. I have a theory on it though. I am sorry if this has been posted else where and I may be way off, but I believe the powers that be are batting Byrd to showcase him and give him ample chances to compile stats.

Fukudome and Soriano are untradeable, but Byrd is relatively cheap and plays an adequate centerfield. He could possibly net a couple of decent prospects or be part of some other package around the trade deadline. The reason for trading Byrd is to bring up BJax for the second of the season to infuse the team with even more young talent. So we may see him at 3rd for a while.

by shastamasta on Apr 19, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

He could compile stats batting seventh too.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Apr 19, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't buy this.

As shoe pointed out, he could compile stats anywhere in the lineup. Plus, Jim Hendry has got to know that he needs a competitive team to keep his job (no, I don’t think that Ricketts is gonna stick with him no matter what). You only think about trading Byrd if you a) have a better option ready to go (which the Cubs don’t or b) You know you’re out of it, so it doesn’t matter.

The Cubs are 8-8 despite some significant injuries AND the NL Central looks terrible. Jim Hendry is not in sellers mode yet. Not by a long shot.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily sell mode

I wasn’t saying the Cubs would be in sell mode yet. If anything, players are traded all the time to acquire another piece. It could help the Cubs acquire a power bat, or something else, and also bring excitement with BJax coming up, ala Starlin a year ago.

I don’t think there is some conspiracy here, it’s just a theory I have.

by shastamasta on Apr 19, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

and we may not be in sell mode

until 3 days before the deadline, like last year…

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do they do with the Tyler Colvin bobbleheads

if they cancel tonight?

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Woodchipper.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

save them for another day?

Too bad last night was it

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

fill the empty seats at Wrigley with them?

ooooh I’m so bad ;)

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by cooliogirl47 on Apr 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
Joe (Iowa City)


Why did Bruce Levine blow us off today? Weather is bad, game probably won’t be played tonight and we can’t get a chat by 1:00 p.m.? Hope the steak is tasty, Bruce.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting that Bruce Levine wouldn't do an online chat ...

because a game scheduled for SIX HOURS LATER will likely be postponed. Or that he thinks it will be.

FWIW, I live about three miles from Wrigley, and it’s AWFUL outside — much worse than yesterday. I don’t see them playing tonight.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live about two miles from Wrigley.

I second elgato’s comments.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did have this thought:

If we have to endure James Russell, it’s probably not a bad thing if he pitches in an ideal pitching environment. As long as he doesn’t walk too many guys — I know, I know — he probably won’t get cuffed around too much.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live 54 miles away.

I third it.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live

in the South burbs and it’s ugly outside. Hasn’t stopped raining.

Dear Cubs and the powers that be

Please cancel the game. I’m being nice and I said please………..so DO IT!

by Swoosie on Apr 19, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a day like today and with the weather forecast for tonight

Any idea when the Cubs would postpone tonight’s game?

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soon, we hope.

Tweets from Bruce Miles & Paul Sullivan indicated that management was checking the field. More rain is starting to break out in western Illinois. Time to call the game off.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sully lives a few blocks from the stadium

and I am almost 100% certain he walks to the game. I bet he wishes they called it off before he got there.

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he does.

So, most likely, do the rest of the beat writers, all the team employees, and the players.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I bet some of the players and the rest

would have loved a day to do normal people things. Pick up their kids, hit Uncommon Ground for a bloody mary or hit up the Diner Grill from some slop!!

Whole softball leagues are cancelled in time for lives to move on.

Somewhere this makes me believe they want to make some money on concessions.

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And probably the Cubs, No?

IF 10,000 show up tonite, I’d be shocked. Why not reschedule for a June evening when they can get 30000+ and their concessions dollars?

by jerry morales rules on Apr 19, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough to work it in with the Padres schedule

They could try a DH tmrw.

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by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not Demp!

He loves to bike in the rain. I’ll wait for the DL from a broken collar bone froma bike accident. Happened to a co-worker of mine.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on Apr 19, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh ya

well then, Mr One-Upper – I live on top of Wrigley…BEAT THAT!!!!

by hansman1982 on Apr 19, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice little article on B. Jax of the Smokies.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110418&content_id=17943004&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

I like this part…

“There is no true leadoff hitter in Chicago right now, so this could benefit my future with the Cubs,” Jackson said. "I’m really enjoying batting first. Hopefully, the experience will pay off now and later.

Gotta love confidence in a player.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm gonna dream for a second ...

Next year’s Opening Day lineup:

BJax, Castro, Pujols, Ramirez, Colvin, Soriano, Soto, Barney

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO!

We’re only 16 games in, I don’t want to imagine a lineup for next year. I do hope BJax can be that leadoff man.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

leadoff

Don’t discount Caesar getting to the majors before BJ.

by fossilhippie on Apr 19, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way

Jackson will get a Sept. callup this year. Szczur is two years away at least.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 19, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Ram? Really?

Hmmmm…thought everyone was all excited about him being gone next year. As far as Pujols…keep dreamin’, el. Ya know who’s a FA next year and I didn’t know was…Matt Kemp. Dodgers won’t be able to afford him. I’d put him 3rd as far as FA go next year…behind that 1B from St. Louis and that 1B from Milwaukee.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the thing about Aramis.

If Vitters isn’t ready, a 1-year rental on Aramis beats spending $50 million on somebody else.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think A-Ram would sign for one year tho.

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Hendry forgot about that.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why we were REALLY good in 2008 regular season.

Our #7 and #8 hitters were amazing.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

but he also hasn't had a lot of opportunties

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, check this out

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=sotoge01&year=Career&t=b.

With pretty good sample sizes in play, Geo has hit best in the seventh spot, then eighth then fifth then sixth.

He’s definitely been better lower in the order. I don’t have a problem moving him up to fifth or sixth, but I think the calls for him to hit third or fourth are a little over the top. Moreland talked last night about how Geo’s game involves taking a lot of pitches, which is easier to do lower in the order. The numbers seem to bear that out.

Plus, it always seems like Geo presses with RISP.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

After watching his blazing speed from 1st to home last night...

we may have to move him up to 1st or 2nd. Was that a plow he was pulling?

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've actually wondered about him hitting second.

Frankly, I’d like to see him as the No. 7 hitter.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, at the risk of missing something obvious

Why is it easier to take pitches lower in the order?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which does beg a question:

If Soto’s game works that way, why has he been so much better hitting seventh than eighth?

I’d guess that Soto is good hitting seventh because he sees a lot of junk but not SO much junk that he can’t hit for power. He can work counts and then see fastballs.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we look at who batted in front of him.

If there is no threat of runners on base in front of Soto, and what you face after him is the # 8 and # 9 (pitcher) hitters, why pitch to him? He proved he’s a competent hitter, and patient. When pressing to score as the ’09 and ’10 Cubs and it looks like ’11 Cubs did and will, respectively, maybe he gets too anxious coming up to bat…

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is the conclusion ...

Lou and Quade came to. Soto has good plate discipline, so he can spot the junk that lower-order hitters see. But he presses in RBI situations.

Now, it’s possible that his poor performance (prior to 2011) with RISP was skewed by his terrible 2009. But he was pretty bad in RBI situations this year too, so …

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hasn't proved that he can do that well elsewhere in the order ...

though he has been given a decent number of chances. Now, somebody could turn around and say he’s never failed in the No. 3 or in a statistically significant way in the No. 4 spot.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seems like a "mental" thing even with small sample size.

This wouldn’t be a topic if our “meat of the order” hitters came through 30% of the time.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, again ...

Soto has had ample opportunity hitting fifth and sixth.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 more bunt hits from Pena from pitchers busting the outside corner

then hopefully Pena can loft a few out to right field bleachers.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he would make a good 3 or 4 hitter

I didn’t realize he had that many AB’s as #5. I must have been looking at something wrong.

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

But who is hitting in front of him @ 5th or 6th spot

should also be a consideration.

''"I always thought I was the most competitive person out there. I never thought I'd find anybody more competitive until I met him.'' Ryan Dempster talking about Ted Lilly

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

But Soriano seems like he’ll be fine hitting fifth or sixth for a while, and Pena makes sense hitting in one of those two spots as a way to break up the righty logjam.

The real problem is that we don’t have a legit No. 3 hitter, unless Castro gets the nod, and the Cubs can go Kosuke, Barney, Castro, Ramirez, Pena, Soriano, Soto, Byrd.

That said, Quade keeps saying how he plans to juggle the lineup and that the only spot locked in stone is Ramirez at four.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

at this point

Castro not going to. I really don’t see Q changing him from 1st to 3rd

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

If Byrd keeps hitting so badly, they’ll have to do something.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true

But also when Pena said he couldn’t button his shirt. Where was he batting? So do I see drastic change coming? No I’m just happy there is some change

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um....no...

Ramirez and Lee were awful for months at a time last year.

Nothing was done.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quade's not Lou.

Castro was still a rookie AND there were two trouble spots, not one. Ramirez is hitting well.

The situations aren’t the same.

by elgato on Apr 19, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Quade has his own set of odd managerial moves

One of them being putting Byrd in the three hole in the first place.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about moving A-Ram into the 3 hole and putting Soriano clean up and drop Byrd down to 7th?

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone said

That Q said Rami is not comfortable hitting 3rd. I guess Q prefers having Bryd be the WORST 3 hitter in the game.

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember when Soriano wasn't comfortable hitting anywhere but leadoff

For the good of the team, he and the team adjusted.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That only took a quick 18 months.

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by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So maybe they should learn from that

and take action sooner

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The point is, there is no evidence he's any better

Byrd is 1 for his last 23.

I’ll bet you a shiny nickel he’s batting 3rd either tonight or tomorrow, depending on when our next game is.

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by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thought during ST, and right before the season

was that Byrd would hit 2nd, but then that was where Castro seemed to excel. 3rd in the order seemed logical. Now with the current struggles, I suggest Fukudome for a month, but then… I got nothin’.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither has Koyie Hill

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just mad

he cut his long golden locks.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 19, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd definetly take Kemp!

He’s a stud plus..might see Rhianna in the stands lol. I do believe they are or were dating.

by bleedinblue76 on Apr 19, 2011 2:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Wells....

Wells is well enough to begin light throwing. Cashner isn’t.

by fossilhippie on Apr 19, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

BP has an interesting article on the attendance so far across the league.

Everybody down except SF and Texas. I hope Ricketts read it. Go to the WS and attendance goes up. The Giants have sold 99.7% of their tickets already.

by Rick B on Apr 19, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Can someone explain to me...

….why the club schedule night games during a part of the season they’re pretty sure it will be as cold as Bud Selig’s heart? It doesn’t make for a good fan experience nor good baseball.

I’m sure the answer is money, but I’d rather see them schedule extra night games when its historically warmer and they’d be assured of bigger crowds.

by fossilhippie on Apr 19, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

They're limited to a certain number of night games per year by the city...

and with the jacked up way MLB has for making the schedule the last few years, it’s probably not feasible.

Just a guess.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 19, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus...

night games later in the year would interfere with the f’n 75 Yankees OR Red Sox OR Yankees vs. Red Sox prime time nationally televised games that are lined up

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by Easy Ed on Apr 19, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would imagine that the want as many San Diego fans tuning in as well.

You have a 1:20 start in Chicago and you’re talking about an 11:20 AM start there. (Which I just realized you would know)

5:00 PM start out West isn’t ideal, but its better than the middle of the work day

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by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only reason that's allowed

is it’s a nationally televised game. That’s the only way around the city ordinance banning weekend night games at Wrigley.

Baseball is back!!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 19, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct.

Fox has two of those Saturday night dates each year in May. In fact, this year the Cubs will be involved in both of them, since they will play Sat. night 5/21 at Fenway, also a Fox game.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

with today's ticket prices..

how school kids can actually afford to go to the game like I did?

by fossilhippie on Apr 19, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Answer

They can’t.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that is very sad.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 20, 2011 3:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2011 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome tweet

Probably not. RT @BruceMiles2112: Brutal conditions at Wrigley now. If this game is played, will #Cubs officials sit outdoors with the fans

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by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 19, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Id rather have Ricketts hit 3rd

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather he left town

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by Nunyabidness on Apr 19, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Emelie is around

How was the Rabbit Stew!!

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by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Fantastic ;-)

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is great

I was thinking about that last night. For dinner I had a movie pretzel and low cal Progresso soup when I get back. Not quite yours

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could have sent some through the Internets for you

the bread was out of this world…who knew you could bake bread in literally 5 minutes a day?!

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Way back when I was still in school, I used to DIY sour dough bread.

I had a nice culture. Made up the dough in the morning and baked evenings.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 19, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its settled

Emelie and eths book your tickets to So Cal. Will hit up a Cubs/Dodger game and you can cook!!

My wife makes a good margarita.

"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's exactly what I'm doing

It’s a new method (to me anyway) but it’s pretty radical – dump all ingredients in bowl, turn on the mixer until dough incorporated, let rise, pop in frigerator, pull out a hunk and bake anytime you want fresh bread. Raw dough keeps up to 2 weeks.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on Apr 19, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs-Padres game postponed

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/4/19/2120959/padres-announce-cubs-padres-game-postponed

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Apr 19, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you Al.

I appreciate a non boob jump.

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by katie casey on Apr 19, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

New topic

Could last nights game be a spark??

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on Apr 19, 2011 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes.

If you look at what losing all those 1-run ballgames did to the demeanor of the club last year, I believe winning like that early could spark the team.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Apr 19, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

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