Chicago Cubs vs. San Diego Padres Game One, Wednesday 4/20, 1:20 CT: Day-Night Doubleheaders Are Great!
by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2011 11:00 AM CDT
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Well, actually, that headline isn't true. No one likes day/night doubleheaders, not players, not broadcasters, not writers, not other team employees; they pretty much assure a 14-16 hour day at work for all of those people. The game times today may shorten that -- a little -- and that's only if either or both games don't go into extra innings.
Regarding the Cubs' telling people who had tickets for yesterday's rainout that they must use them for the makeup game tonight or they're out of luck, coincidentally, there is an identical situation in St. Louis -- the Cardinals also got rained out of their game vs. the Nationals last night and are playing a split doubleheader, with the makeup game being this afternoon. The Cardinals announced a much more fan-friendly policy for ticket holders for the postponed game. They can use them for the makeup game, AND:
In addition, fans with Tuesday tickets will also receive a voucher for complimentary admission to another Monday-through-Thursday game in 2011. Fans who purchased tickets at Busch Stadium ticket windows or Cardinals Clubhouse stores will need to present their tickets dated Tuesday, April 19, at the Busch Stadium ticket windows in order to receive the complimentary voucher.
The bottom line is that many who had tickets to last night's game may not be able to make it tonight, for various reasons. Not giving those fans something in exchange for the money they've already paid is, in my opinion, not a fan-friendly policy. The Cubs ought to reconsider.
Cubs lineup for game 1:
Castro SS, Barney 2B, Byrd CF, Ramirez 3B, Pena 1B, Soriano LF, Colvin RF, Soto C, Garza P
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No one has yet homered this year off Matt Garza; Garza has had a very odd start to his season, giving up lots of singles (and runs), and his 25 K rank fifth in the NL, but all the pitchers ahead of him have more innings pitched. Garza's only career game vs. the Padres was June 24, 2010 in interleague play. He threw eight solid innings and struck out five, with no walks. About half the Padres who played in that game aren't on the team any more; the only Padre who has more than five career AB vs. Garza is Jorge Cantu, who is 2-for-13.
Dustin Moseley signed with the Padres as a free agent after several years in the AL with the Yankees and Angels. He has never faced the Cubs; the only current Cub who has more than one plate appearance against him is Marlon Byrd, who is 2-for-7. Moseley's winless record comes from the fact that the Padres have been shut out in all three of his starts so far this year. Let's keep that going tonight.
This game is on CSN Chicago. It's also on "4 San Diego", a local cable channel there. It is again listed on EI's list of games, so if you have that service, you should be able to see it. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Padres site Gaslamp Ball.
Here's how the threads today will work. Today's first game pitch thread will be up at 1:15 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT. There will be a game preview for the night game which will post at 5 pm CDT -- whether game one is over or not. It will contain info on threads for the night game. If you need more overflows due to rain delays or extra innings, post them in the fanshot section.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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How can Quade start Colvin in Game 1?
He needs to start in Game 2 – his Bobble head game!
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
Quade must learn
Don’t dis the bobble head. Colvin must start game 2.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 20, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think bobble heads are really creepy.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
by katie casey on Apr 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Bobble heads would make for a good horror movie
Like Chuckie.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 20, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
If it were these guys I'd watch it.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
by katie casey on Apr 20, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Attack of the Killer Bs
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and Byrd shouldn't be hitting 3rd in either game
Maybe he’ll have a good game to up the talks of a Byrd-Nats deal.
by alabamacubbie on Apr 20, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
You have got to be nuts
The hardest working player on the Cubs, one of the only potential 290+ hitters, great clubhouse guy. If there is anyone on this team we need to keep, its Byrd. I realize hes in a small slump, but hes still one of the best players on our team, especially defensively.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
You think that Marlon Byrd is one of the Cubs best players?
I suppose the saddest part about that statement is that it might actually be true.
Byrd is a mediocre player. He makes a nice complimentary piece on a good team, not a cornerstone player on one. Byrd should have been moved at last year’s deadline. It’s not like his production would be that difficult to replace from other journeyman CFs. His “potential 290+” is pretty meaningless when it comes with a sub .350 OBP and modest power.
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by WittyUserName on Apr 20, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont think its good that he is one of the better players
He just is. His hustle is irreplaceable, you have to agree with that. And hes a great clubhouse guy. One of those guys whose intangibles is contagious, great to have around. Replaceable in the field, eh. Replaceable on offense, where he hits in the lineup yes, but hes valuable none the less. If you trade him, get good young talent.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually don't have to agree that his hustle is irreplaceable
There are plenty of guys that hustle
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hustle is nice
But it can’t replace tangible production. Similarly to being a great clubhouse guy, hustle cannot possibly outweigh offensive mediocrity. Obviously the optimal team would have everyone hustling on the field and having a great time together in the clubhouse. Unfortunately that’s not how it works out.
I don’t disagree that it’s nice to have a player who tries hard, and runs hard to first on pretty much everything (especially when it’s contrasted by a couple of players who don’t). But giving 110% doesn’t make up for lack of talent.
Byrd currently has an OPS of .658. And while I doubt that he finishes the year with those kinds of numbers, he’s a bit of long shot to finish with an OPS over .800, and he’s never finished higher than .842. I actually expect him to finish around his career averages of .280/.340/.420, which is decidedly mediocre. That’s not a level of a production that warrants hanging onto a player, even in the face of the fact that he’s a good guy who hustles.
You say that “if you trade him, get good young talent”, well if I’m a non Hendry GM, why would I give good young talent for Marlon Byrd? That doesn’t mean all you can get is organizational filler, but a couple of ‘B’ prospect would be perfectly reasonable. I was adamant last year that the team should have capitalized on his hot first half and traded him, his value was never going to be higher.
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by WittyUserName on Apr 20, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I was adamant last year that the team should have capitalized on his hot first half and traded him, his value was never going to be higher.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I cant disagree with you here
I actually fully disagree with you. I guess Byrd though, is not one of the first guys I want to get rid of, but it wouldnt kill me if we did. I just have a lot of respect for him.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
wait...what?
I cant disagree with you here
I actually fully disagree with you
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahaha
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I just.....I don't know what to say to this
Byrd is unexceptional in every way. He doesn’t get on base a lot, he has very little power, almost no real speed…..he’s a 4th or 5th outfielder on any contending team.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as we get Strausburg and Bryce Harper with $6 million
I totally agree!!!
A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!!!
GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!
by Azul Cachorro on Apr 20, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Now I can agree with this.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
First!!!
I hope Garza will pitch deep tonight! I don’t see anything good coming from either games if he only pitches 5 innings…
first fail!
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
by VegasCubFan on Apr 20, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That ticket policy is beyond ridiculous.
What if someone could go to yesterday’s game but not todays? They’re supposed to eat the ticket?
Eat … well, I can’t finish that sentence. Al would ban me.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 20, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions
...
p.s. if anyone with Photoshop skills could put Milton in the background I think it’d be nice. I have no such skillz.
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by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 20, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It is very depressing to see the Cardinals handle this so much better
Let’s see they come up with a solution that lets them keep all the ticket money, appease angry fans and fill up increasingly empty seats to weekday games with people who might by food and drink.
Cubs solution-screw the fans we have a waiting list of over 100,000 we don’t need to care about our fans.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Will this make you cancel your ST?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No this actually has no effect on me at all
As a full season ticket holder I am responsible to buy tickets to any game , rescheduled or
“postponed”
However you do seem to obsess on the fact that I buy season tickets and still think I have a right to complain about the team and its policies.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it doesn't make a lot of sense to complain about how the club is treating the fans
and then continue to shovel money into their wallets.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
She's sticking up for the little people
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It is what addicts do
Actually as someone who does shovel money at them I feel I have even more right to bitch.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Addicts are encouraged to seek treatment
Not brag about how much MORE drugs they can do because they’re BIG addicts
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
Its a stupid policy, but its not deep enough for me not to take my kids to a ballgame (I dont have kids btw) or to go with my friends and have a good time. Its just another case of people with big money trying to gain a little more. If we abandoned every business that does that, to a much larger, more consistent sense, then we would be sitting on our couches with are hands folded and legs crossed not touching, reading, or watching a thing. Its not that deep Nunyabidness. Go to the park, support your team, so the team has money to put a good team on the field, and to give fans a break.
It reminds me of this argument: A lot of people will point and laugh at the empty seats across the country, saying that they have terrible fans and they should go out and support their team so they can afford to put a good team on the field, or for the fun of taking your family to the ballpark, no matter what (much like Cubs fans). Yet when people go to every game, and the team hasnt won a WS is 100+ years, people will contridict themselves and say “Stop going to the games and supporting a crap franchise, so you force the hand of the ownership to put a winning team on the field!”
If it’s your team, SUPPORT THEM. Complain, bitch, whine, cheer, celebrate and high five each other all you want, because you are a FAN. I would rather have Tom Brady than Jay Cutler as my QB, but I’m not going to abandon the franchise because we didn’t draft him.
Sorry, I just had this argument with someone. :)
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with a word of this.
I support my team, in that I root for them. The only way I can show my displeasure for the decisions the front office makes is withholding my money. They won’t listen any other way (they probably won’t listen there either)
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Although one person wont make a difference
The money we put in their hands is the money they use to field a good team. Us showing up and watching them gives them money to spend. Complaining in the media, and on blogs, and in letters, or however you want to complain is a good enough way for them to hear what the fans think and will have as much an influence as not showing up, at least for the Cubs. You can’t not take the kids to a ballgame for silly rain out rule. You dont balance your fandom, as a true fan, on little things you may disagree with. Complain about it, let your voice be heard, but its not deep enough to not go to any more games.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, i really don't agree with anything you said
“The money we put in their hands is the money they use to field a good team.”
The results of the last three two and a half years says otherwise.
“Us showing up and watching them gives them money to spend”
Or put in their pockets.
“Complaining in the media, and on blogs, and in letters, or however you want to complain is a good enough way for them to hear what the fans think and will have as much an influence as not showing up, at least for the Cubs.”
I wish that were true.
“You dont balance your fandom, as a true fan, on little things you may disagree with. Complain about it, let your voice be heard, but its not deep enough to not go to any more games.”
Maybe it’s not for you. I refuse to spend money on a franchise that shows little regard for the people funding it.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
▲This▲
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I just support my team
And clearly you do too. The Cubs have NEVER been great with how they dealt with fans, but somehow we have ended up with almost 3 million fans a year. Somehow we sell more tickets than most organizations in the major leagues. Somehow this is one of the most active team blogs on SBNation, because people like me and you have not “refused to spend money” (and can I add time, reading, watching etc..) “on a franchise that shows little regard for the people funding it.” You have, you are, and you will, despite how much you and others will claim to refuse to do so. Its all hot air.
I Love the Cubs, even when Im pissed at their ownership. Its my team, win or lose (but God am I sick of losing). There arent too many Cubs fans alive right now (literally), that can say they were fans of a great Cubs organization.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you want Wrigley
To look like a ghost town like Pittsburgh? And then have a team in the gutter for years because of it? Then the complaining would start about that…
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs' Fans Mantra
“I bitch, therefore I am.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty Much.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Apr 20, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
What good is the team making a ton of money and putting a shitty product on the field doing us?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Better they have no money and put out a worse product?
I mean if you would satisfied with years of no free agents and teams of eager kids losing 90 games for years OK, but not me
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Spending half of what they spend now...
and winning about the same number of games….OK.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No better they have some money and put out a better product
But if you’re going to claim that fans not coming to the park is crippling the organization, why are you perfectly okay wtih the organization pissing on the fans?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I never said it was crippling the organization..
………Yet……… But what I am saying is that little things like this arent reasons to abondon a baseball team (or any business for that matter), because they are in it for the money like any other business. I disagree with the policy, big time, its just silly that someone would not go to games because of it. Not being able to afford it is another story (thats me!). The rest of the convo snowballed from there. haha.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, number 1, to clarify
My unwillingness to give the Cubs my money has far more to do with keeping an absolute moron in charge of the payroll than their rainout policy.
Their rainout policy is just another symptom of a disease that seems to be manifesting.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Listen
Your viewpoint is very fair, I just feel very strongly about continuing to support your team through good and bad. Not in a lovable loser way, I am more inclined to stay at home because me excitement level is down when they are losing, but I am still an avid supporter and will go to as many games as my time and money allow (which is not much anymore).
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
The Cubs get free agents, they just happen to overpay and grab the crappy ones (more on the GM, than the ownership). I dont want to see Wrigley looking like PNC park, or Tropicana Field, while we keep our fingers crossed a no name guy out of AAA comes up and kills it (See: Longoria), and that we have to get that production before a big market team swoops them out (See: The rest of the Rays)
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a chicken-or-egg thing
Obviously, if the team draws fewer fans, there probably will be less money available for free agents or internal development.
But if the team doesn’t play well, fewer fans will attend.
Policies like this one unnecessarily piss off a fan base that isn’t exactly predisposed to give the Cubs the benefit of the doubt at this point.
Now, I do think a lot of people who post here would be perfectly content with watching a team that’s 90 percent prospects, a la Pittsburgh. But a major market can’t behave that way, particularly THIS major market.
But you shouldn’t feel compelled to go to a game if you don’t want to.
Of course, you could be like White Sox fans, who love to say “unlike Cubs fans, we don’t go to games unless the team is good,” then still don’t show up when the team IS good (or has the potential to do so, like this season).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course, you could be like White Sox fans, who love to say "unlike Cubs fans, we don’t go to games unless the team is good," then still don’t show up when the team IS good (or has the potential to do so, like this season).
This is exactly why I have such a strong stance on this issue. I grew up on the Southside of Chicago hearing this all the time, constantly. They probably go to more Cubs fans to cheer against them, than they do to their own games.
Anyways, you are right, fans shouldn’t feel compelled to go to a game if you dont want to, but people need to remember its a business. Owners of all teams are in it for the money, its aggravating, but its a fact. I don’t like it, but there are minor issues across the board that fans dont get a shot at even knowing about, that the owners do for their benefit. We cant let these minor issues take us away from the park.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
The Triangle Building is going to be awesome.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically the only people who can influence product
are the ones who dont buy it?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a pretty accurate statement.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
How many telelvisions shows are out there right now that no one watches?
How many brands of cereal that no one eats?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides Leno and Shredded Wheat? IDK.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Old people keep both those products alive
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea
The shows get cancelled and the cereals get thrown away. I dont want that to happen to the Cubs.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't either
and lets hope the Ricketts aren’t that effing stupid. Because that’s what it honestly comes down to.
If the fans stop showing up, and voice their displeasure and the Ricketts continue to give them the middle finger, then I hate to tell you this, but a sellout streak that lasts a decade isn’t going to make a damn bit of difference. They don’t care about the club at that point.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
See: Camden Yards
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 20, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's a little premature
to compare Ricketts with Peter Angelos, but …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No, the ones who currently buy it that STOP buying it and tell the producers of the product the reason they stopped.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This is part of the reason
I don’t go to games at Wrigley anymore, unless it’s a special circumstance (like if I get ultra-cheap tickets or something).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
In that case you can go to a LOT of games this year
Plenty of ultra cheap tickets around.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what it sounds like
Right now I’m not going to any games until the series in KC in June, but I might have to revise that.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you mean 8th.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 20, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
This lineup reminds me of 2005
when Baker refused to take Garciaparra out of the third hole when he was struggling
Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!
Perhaps if this many managers
do that, it means … that’s the way it’s done.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care if it's winning or not
Apparently, it’s SOP.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hooray!
Doing things because others have done them (even when they don’t work) is what I was hoping for this season!
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
And I guess a week of Byrd cooling off
is sufficient enough of a sample to make a change?
I really wish the “geniuses” here would have a chance to run a big-league team sometime. I’d get my popcorn ready and laugh my arse off.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think his last 500 bats have been a sufficient sample size to
come to the conclusion he doesn’t belong in the three spot
Cooling off?
He’s NEVER been a good 3 hitter.
EVER. Except for maybe a week last season.
The guy has had exactly one season where he hit more than 12 home runs.
All this cooling off has done is underline what was a bad idea from the start.
Much like batting Milton Bradley in the middle of the order.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't mean it's right, Bruce.
And I’m not even sure you’re right that it’s SOP.
I admit, the Cubs don’t have great options to move Byrd (and Soto isn’t a good choice, IMO). But Ramirez-Soriano hitting third and fourth would be an improvement.
this many?
besides Baker, Piniella and Quade…what other team’s manager leaves automatic outs at the top and in the middle of their lineups for weeks and months at a time?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
So Cubs managers are the only ones who do it?
I guess that’s your argument.
The only legit beef you would have is Dusty batting Patterson-Perez 1-2 for most of a season. That was unnecessary and unforgivable.
Otherwise, it’s just so much mental masturbation.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you name another manager who does it?
Since you claim “so many” do.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
La Russa does it
I believe Ozzie is doing it right now with Dunn.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
there is a MASSIVE difference between continuing to keep Dunn
at the 3 hole and Byrd.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
I realize Hill hasn’t been playing all that much, so I guess we need something else to whine about.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
here we go.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No, here you go
I didn’t start the whine-fest on this subject.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
No but you jumped into it for no discernible reason.
Considering you don’t actually want to discuss it.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you want to "discuss" it, either
You just want to bitch and moan about it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
That's either a really fine line ...
of a subjective analysis.
Let's discuss it.
You have to know there is a difference between leaving someone who has hit over 12 home runs in a season exactly once (in other words he never should have been there in the first place) and someone who is a proven power bat and routinely gets on base, drives in runs and hits homers.
I don’t think you EVER want to discuss anything. I don’t recall you ever going two straight posts without throwing out an insult and nuking the discussion.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What is the alternative?
Maybe something that is “obvious” to you isn’t so obvious to people who, you know, actually know something about this situation.
Don’t let that stop you from whining about it all day (and the next day, and the day after that, and …).
As far as your last point, actually we had a very good discussion going on the “Is Quade The Right Guy For This Team?” thread.
Perhaps the problem is more with a handful of posters who constantly bitch and moan and contribute nothing of substance to anything around here than it is with me, as you point out. Seems like about six-seven posters here fit that description perfectly.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
...
Perhaps the problem is more with a handful of posters who constantly bitch and moan about posters who constantly bitch and moan and contribute nothing of substance to anything around here. Seems like about two posters here fit that description perfectly.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Clever, SWL
Give yourself a gold star. Genius.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't have anymore room for all these gold star's you keep awarding me.
I’m giving the rest of them to TJ.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
stars....heh
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If that's the case,
change “stars” to “exclamation points,” because I fear he’s running out.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that discussion
You still managed to call everyone you didn’t agree with names.
I guess that’s what passes for good discussion for you.
To answer your other question, the alternative is Aram at 3 and either Pena or Soriano at cleanup.
At least freaking try it.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they will
Are you going to whine and bitch about it every day until they do? That should be enlightening and entertaining.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously, the complaining can be over the top around here ...
but this is a Cubs blog. Of course we’re going to argue about lineups and players. That’s what sports fans have been doing for generations.
Arguing is one thing
“Byrd is batting third AGAIN? Quade is a moron,” multiplied by 100, isn’t.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah...let's try and keep the discussion limited to...um....
Sam Fuld and the weather?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
wait...I forgot ATTENDANCE.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget moving Wood to the Rotation
we haven’t discussed that enough
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean am I going to want them to stop doing something dumb
right up until the point where they stop doing it?
Yes.
The answer is yes.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I could just as easily
make that argument, too.
And so it goes …
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Bruce, I've got to ask:
If it pisses you off so much, why come back? I’m not telling you (or suggesting that you) leave.
But if the behavior of so many BCBers gives you this much heartburn …
Because it doesn't actually piss him off
He just enjoys flaming other people
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
You know the answer to that, eg
It’s the Internet version of crack cocaine.
Plus, every other Cubs site is 100 percent filled with morons. Here it’s only about 20-25 percent. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Namecalling...SOP.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm okay
I don’t even…..I don’t….no one is asking you not to post, no one is telling you to go away. (both things you do to others about 50 times an hour)
so…this response is….nonsensical
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
The suggestion or Ramirez-Soriano ...
3-4 is a good one. BTW, it’s not a terrible idea to do this UNTIL Byrd finds his stroke again.
Right
I point out the flaw in your logic and you completely switch gears.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's SOP.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
If so many Internet Tough Guys do it
then why should we expect anything different
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't point out any flaw
You just switched gears yourself.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn has actually hit more than 20 HR in an entire complete baseball season...
in fact…he’s pretty much done it every single year he’s played a full baseball season. Also he walks alot.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, Dusty proved that it's NOT SOP, Bruce.
Dusty moved Sosa out of the three hole in 2003 — briefly, before Patterson got hurt — and in 2004 — permanently, which was a key point in the rift between Sosa and Baker.
Quade might have his reasons (including ones we don’t know about) but what he’s doing isn’t SOP and doesn’t make sense.
How long did it take Dusty
to do it with Sosa? More than a week, IIRC.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that's a different argument.
You weren’t saying that Byrd hasn’t had enough of a chance to prove himself. You said that it was SOP for (paraphrasing) managers to let No. 3 hitters work out of slumps.
That is, unless you were implying something that most of us didn’t pick up on.
Otherwise?
Lou left Soriano in the leadoff spot FOREVER….and Lee/Ramirez batted 3/4 for MONTHS without producing.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta say I'm dissapointed in the Cubs ticket policy with this rainout
doesn’t effect me personally but it makes the organization look bad.
Anyways, let’s play two (and win both)!!!
Hey, if there's a wrong decision to be made, Ricketts and company will make it
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to think...
that the Cubs are really going to simply do whatever they want to make money and say “to hell” with how the fans feel…and I bet it works. Cubs fans will kinda piss an moan about it for a bit…and attendance will fall off for awhile…and then everyone will get used to it and everyone will come back. I also predict most ST holders won’t cancel their tickets. Al? What do you think?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
There's an argument to be made that Ricketts pretty much laid that plan out with the
“Fans will always come” comments
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's what first got me started with this line of thinking.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
It's starting to look that way...
I’m hoping this is just the attitude they have until they can shed some of these bloated contracts and then they will actually spend money to build a contender…but the more you see of this kind of thing the less likely that seems. Next season should be pretty telling…..
hello everybody...
how’s the weather forecast today…can we get these games in?
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Chilly but not a torrential downpoar
like last night. They’ll get them both in.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 20, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
weather forecast is 85 and warm
oh you mean in Chicago…my bad! that is the weather forecast Vegas
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
by VegasCubFan on Apr 20, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
as opposed to....
85 and chilly?
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola
If you live on the sun, 85 degrees is chilly
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Bet Air Conditioning costs there are nuts.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
always like to see a veteran or two and recently gimpy players get days like today off...oh well
let’s come out of today healthy
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
You are right that's not a fan-friendly policy.
The more I think about it, the more annoyed I am by it. I’m going to be more hesitant about buying tickets ahead of time in the future especially in rainy months like April. This is beyond dumb.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
Agreed.
It gives the impression the Cubs don’t care about fan experience, but making money. If they keep doing this for rainouts, regardless of the month the rainout occurs, there are going to be lots of empty seats at Wrigley.
A few more instances of this, and you might as well just stay home and Wrigley will be almost completely empty.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 20, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Um...when have the Cubs ever really cared about the fan experience?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
This is what is known as "hitting the nail on the head".
About as much as they apparently care about building a winning baseball team.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
They hired fan ambassadors
Personally, I’m waiting to be named Cubs Fan Ambassador to Tahiti.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 20, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
How about taking the $ they pay the "fan ambassadors"....
and refund tickets with it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but that's too much.
It gets in the way of profiting off the fans and ripping them off.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 20, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
There is the whole
Best place in MLB to watch baseball thing.
Two things...
1. Garza needs to have a good outing. He’s been complete shit this year.
2. Why the hell does Marlon Byrd continue to bat third? So aggravating.
It's getting to the point that everyone in the lineup other than
Maybe Barney is a better option than Byrd in the three spot. This is becoming very reminiscent of lee last year.
Are you telling me it hasn't been genius to bury Soto in the 8th spot?
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Soto hasn't exactly been good this year.
And historically, he’s hit better seventh and eighth than he has fifth or sixth.
Well I was being sarcastic. A touch.
Yeah this year he’s been off but last year it didn’t matter how he hit he was gonna be buried besides a few days to make it appear Lou tried something. I think he’s got to be better than the 8th spot pretty much always at the least.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he should hit seventh.
It’s where he’s been best throughout his career. Plus, Soto’s never been good in RBI situations.
Agreed
Nowahs,
I agree completely. I get the idea that players have to hit out of their slumps to some degree. But, I don’t understand why batting order can’t be more fluid and responsive. When a guy is struggling, move him down, take some pressure off. I hate the idea that MLB players are such babies that moving from 3rd to 8th in the order is viewed as such an affront to their egos that they would simply be shocked into incompetence.
Eamus Ursuli!
Cubs ticket policy doesn't surprise me at all
They suck with the fan-friendly stuff especially with ticket policies.
Having said that, let’s WIN two!
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Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.
Welcome to the "corporate" confines
Friendly no longer need apply
not really arguing here
but if we didnt have the corporate confines we wouldnt have this massive payroll to pay this annual all star team we field….
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola
If you live in Vegas
the game is on COX cable channel 99
the Padres announcers are really boring and total homers, but one gets to watch the Cubs.
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
"the Padres announcers are really boring and total homers"
I can’t stand Mark Grant
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball."
30 years ago
Mark Grant turned in the most dominating performance I’ve ever seen in the minor leagues. Complete game shutout. You never see a guy go nine innings in A ball anymore.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 20, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
On the field, fine.
I was leaning more toward the announcing gig. He is one weird guy behind the mic.
"Hello again, everybody. It's a bee-yooo-tiful day for baseball."
...
No one likes day/night doubleheaders, not players, not broadcasters, not writers, not other team employees; they pretty much assure a 14-16 hour day at work for all of those people.
OH MY GOD…I’M CRYING!!! THOSE POOR PEOPLE! THEY SHOULD FORM A UNION TO STOP THIS ABUSE!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:29 AM CDT reply actions
I know playing
Or watching baseball for ten hours in a row!! They might even have to eat clubhouse food!!!
Why isn't the lineup for game 2 already posted? I thought Quade always tells his players ahead of time?
Soriano will not be ready if he does not know!
by TJ11 on Apr 20, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure Koyie will be ready to strike out.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That's because of his professional preparation for it.
You can’t teach that skill.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you questioning this team?
Is that really you TJ?
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll never see it coming...
Hill will stride to the plate in the bottom of the 9th, two men on base, 1 out (can’t make this an entire cliche—ed.)……… ANDDDDDDDDDDD weakly pop out to the first baseman.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If hill is batting with two
On in the ninth ever my issues with quade will erupt like a volcano in waiting
I'm gonna say this one more time.
It is pure insanity to pitch James Russell (who MIGHT have 75 pitches in him) in the second half of a DH.
but it just might be crazy enough to WORK!
but it won’t work.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, SWL ...
this is the dumbest thing since Dusty routinely batting at the top of the order.
Dusty would have hit better
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
It's also pure insanity to continue to bat Marlon Byrd in the 3 hole
He’s 1 for his last 23 and 3-20 with RISP this season.
Why in the name of god is Byrd untouchable, when almost everyone else has been moved around?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Both decisions are dumb.
But Marlon Byrd at least could have a good day. Quade said he doesn’t expect Russell to go more than 70 pitches or so. How can any manager in his right mind start the second game of a DH with a guy who won’t throw more than 70 pitches?
by elgato on Apr 20, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Look, Quade is bringing some new energy and vision to this team.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
He has brought some new energy.
But this decision is mind-boggling. The ONLY reason I’m not angrier about it is that the Cubs pen can recover tomorrow.
The only reason I'm not angrier about it...
is that Hill will start the second game and I’m confident he’ll carry the team himself to a win.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
All I know is Byrd will be hitting 3rd.....
BAKER SHOULD HIT 3RD VS LHP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not difficult!!!!!
But its Harang pitching game 2…
I guarantee Soto will
I’d imagine we’ll see both DeWitt and Reed start as well
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL....if it's a lefty...
Castro, SS
Baker, 2B
Byrd, CF
Ramirez, 3B
Pena, 1B
Soriano, LF
Johnson, RF
Hill, C
BOOK IT.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, it's Harang.
And I wouldn’t be shocked if Byrd or somebody else gets Game 2 off.
He could get a day off. I'm not saying he will be benched.
I’m not optimistic about him being moved down, though. At least we don’t have a blackhole at the third AND fourth spots this year.
no, we have a black hole at the 3rd and 5th spots
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Pena's about to get hot, I think.
Just my opinion.
sigh.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Just one more week....
lather, rinse, repeat.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
You can't sit your clubhouse leader....
Lee didn’t miss many starts.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And the opposition was pretty grateful last year.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You really think that's what's happening?
First of all, I don’t really think Lee was ever that much of a clubhouse leader. And though I think Byrd is more of a leader, I don’t think that’s why Quade isn’t changing the lineup.
Frankly, there aren’t many good options. Castro is hitting a ton leading off, Ramirez is “comfortable” hitting cleanup, Pena, Colvin and Soto aren’t hitting well and Soriano is Soriano.
The only other option is Kosuke (yuck).
I’d move Ramirez to third and Soriano to fourth, but even that is far from ideal.
far from ideal....but still better than what's being done now...
and that’s the knock on this organization for the past several years.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Look,
What do you want them to do?
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Non-dumb things?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Listen sweetheart...
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
There is absolutely no reason Castro couldn't hit the same in the 3 hole
and quite frankly, we have other options for leadoff.
(Dome against Righties, Baker against Lefties)
As for ARAM being “comfortable”, he’s a “veteran” he can figure out ways to get comfortable one spot higher in the lineup
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Fukudome against RHP in 3-hole.
Baker against LHP in 3-hole.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Also not....terrible but not neccesarily an improvement on Byrd
Castro or ARAM clearly are.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree.
My pee brain keeps telling me to not move Castro from lead-off (I probably share the same disease that let’s Byrd stay 3rd, ARam 4th and old DLee 3rd)
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
N-O spells no.
If we’ve learned nothing else in the past three years, it’s to not rely on Kosuke Fukudome. I know you’re probably thinking that he could be moved in May when he starts sucking.
Put Kosuke in the leadoff spot. It’s easier, it makes more sense.
I'd be fine with that, too.
It looks like Quade doesn’t want to rush Castro and/or mess up a good thing. A lineup of Kosuke, Barney, Castro, Ramirez, Pena, Soriano, Soto, Byrd works for me.
He claimed he didn't want to rush Castro to leadoff
and then changed his mind about 9 games in.
Which is another reason sticking with Byrd at 3 confounds me.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If Quade wants to broach that move
he will start Reed Johnson in CF for game 2, (and unfortunately bat him leadoff) and move Castro to the vacant 3 spot.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't and won't
But it would be nice
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Understood
But that’s how you handle it from the standpoint of managing the clubhouse and the lineup simultaneously.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 20, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I know
But he’s made no indication that Byrd is on his way out of the 3 hole.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, you wouldn't telegraph that in advance.
BTW, all this teeth-gnashing means Byrd will probably hit two HRs today.
NBF can all hand us a nice helping of crow. And I’ll eat it happily.
Byrd has 5 mulit HR games in his career.
so it’s not out of the question.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I will run around the state capitol naked
and have it photographed if Marlon Byrd hits two homeruns in the same game today.
I’
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Everybody will start a game today
So the question is will one of Soriano or Byrd get Game 2 off, or both of them? If both of them, who bats 3?
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 20, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless Z plays LF
If I recall correctly, Z doesn’t pitch in winter ball, he plays LF (throwing with his other arm) and just likes batting.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 20, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Does he have a U-Haul?
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember when I was a kid and double headers were (1) common and (2) cool.
Now it seems as if everybody hates them. I still think they are great.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I love em.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember when I was a kid and Jello Pudding Pops were (1) common and (2) cool.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Snack Packs have since dominated the market.
It’s like Google vs Ask Jeeves.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Are you a Cosby fan?
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad I don't have to sit outside in the cold for six to seven hours.
But I love DHs otherwise.
Well yeah they are cool, but I would say that they used to be back to back.
It’s the day/night thing, which wasn’t that common then, that I think makes it harder for the fan at the game especially.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 20, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
And they were two for the price of one.
♪♫ It’s a beautiful day for the ladies, so throw all your dishes away. ♫♪
by katie casey on Apr 20, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I keep hoping ...
that Quade will actually send Coleman to the mound in Game 2 — and that this Russell business is a bunch of smoke.
Sam Fuld in NY Times
Speaking of Matt Garza, there’s an article on Sam Fuld in today’s NY Times:
It’s still early, I know, but at some point the Garza trade is going to enter the Lou Brock sweepstakes…
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Christ on a bike
Ron White was right: You can’t fix stupid.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i smell ANOTHER fanpost!!!
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
imaginary Fuld fan posts
this is getting a bit weird.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait......
Are you comparing Sam Fuld to Lou Brock?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
In the future?
Like, in the year 2000?!
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
Er... The Right Link This time
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/20/sports/baseball/20fuld.html
AlaskaFan
"Year after year after year after year . . . . . after year after year after year . . ." - Steve Goodman, "Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Hooray!
Tons of early games to listen to / follow at the office today. Looks like my prep for my hearing tomorrow might get postponed until tonight.
One of my favorites in the system
While everybody else was touting Brett Wallach and Robinson Lopez, I was firmly aboard the Kirk train. Hopefully he keeps it up, as he had a disastrous outing last start after a superb outing his first start.
3 lineouts for Peoria in the second
BAPIP Gods mad
Kirk fans the third out
in the third. 0-0to the third
Szczur with a walk
Runners on 1st and 3rd – Rubi Silva up
I watched Szczur play a playoff football game at Villanova.
I think this kid is exciting.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
I saw him single-handedly beat my Grizzlies in the NC game
year before last. He was unstoppable.
wow that is impressive
not only did he take on multiple grizzly bears and beat them…he did it with one hand!!
I think we may have a challenger for the Lilly/Norris club…
by hansman1982 on Apr 20, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
We could concieably be in 1st after today?
This is comedy.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the NL Central
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Comedy Central
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Like our 1B baseman's BA?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Like our #3 hitter's RBI total?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Like our backup catcher's career hit total?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Like our stolen bases?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
R.I.P. Ronnie
He could have found the positive in all this muck.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Like our # of playoff victories in the last 5 years?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Chiefs lead 1-0
Errant pickoff throw at first. Silva at the plate
Other than homers
His hotstreak was never that hot
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No.
It’s been 2 games since he had a solid game in Colorado.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Yea I noticed
I was so stoked to steal him off the FA wire in fantasy baseball too. Then his average fell off. Its ok, I like what hes doing, hell be alright.
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 20, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The mighty Cliff Lee gives up a solo shot and a single to Narveson.
Damn this!
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
I'm listening to this game, too
But I’m not going to get too worked up about who is where in the standings on April 20.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
psychologically
I think it would be a HUGE boost to the team and the fanbase if we could sneak into 1st….
Perhaps
But it really doesn’t mean anything at this point.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
If it has meaning to you, great
Although if it does, I’d suggest you get a life.
First place on April 20 means less than nothing.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, eg
But I’m not the one hyperventilating about this.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
What does have meaning Bruce?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
A little existential, don't you think?
That argument should go on at “Bleed Sartre Blue.”
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 20, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I am, I am
I can’t get over that little kid I saw in batting cage at Fitch has some power. The stats on his plate discpline are SICK and that is something I love ( um a certain former Cub was very good at that too).
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So this is the next Sam Fuld-type obsession?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 20, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Um that would indicate going from one to another
Do you think I ever stopped following Maddux ? He retired 3 years ago and I still follow him. There is no need to transfer anything but obviously I like to keep an eye on certain Cub players while not forgetting others.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 20, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder who she means
Maybe there’s been a recent Fanpost
Doubleheaders Are Great, as is white asparagus with ham, boiled potatoes and a bottle of Lugano
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Colvin
How long do the stay with him before they send him down? I assume he is not out of options. I haven’t seen him enough to know how overmathced he has been but his numbers are aweful.
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