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no way to prove anything 93 years later, and since this comes from Eddie Cicotte...

I’ll take it with a grain of salt. But since it happened at least once back then, it certainly could have happened twice. I doubt it, but it certainly could be true. This is interesting and well worth the read. Thanks for posting!

by holy mackeral on Apr 20, 2011 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I have this book

Really hard to read, and infers quite a bit. There’s no direct evidence to support the theory the Cubs threw the 1918 series, just a lot of circumstantial stuff.

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by BeerCub on Apr 20, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read this book.

It’s interesting history, but the author did not prove his premise, IMO.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

he did a nice job with the resources he had. His premise was that it was distinctly possible, and I think he showed that. Nothing more, nothing less.

by Mak19 on Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Apr 21, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

The idea that

Eddie Cicotte said in a deposition that “he’d heard talk” of a 1918 fix is hardly any real evidence. None of this is really new.

Having said that, that was one incredibly corrupt era and the Cubs were hardly immune. Is it possible they were in the tank? Yes. I believe that there is some evidence the Cubs threw some regular season games between 1914 and 1919. But this isn’t evidence one way or the other of a World Series fix at all.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 20, 2011 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a nice story, filled with intrigue

But all speculation. The only thing for certain is that the players of that era were treated like slaves..

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I've read speculation that says Ty Cobb himself helped throw a game or two

And God knows what was going on in the 1880s.

I have no problems believing that the Black Sox were essentially the McGwire/Sosa of fixing. Others did it, but that was the one people really cared about.

Landis was an unrepentant racist and from all accounts, loved the sound of his own voice and thought he was God himself in the courtroom. BUT… I will give the man credit for coming down so hard on the Black Sox that it completely changed baseball’s culture.

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on Apr 20, 2011 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Buy off a player here or there, no problem.

It probably happened all the time back then. And most of those guys probably kept their mouths shut.

Too many people were involved with the Black Sox scandal. It was doomed from the start.

by bluemagic9 on Apr 21, 2011 5:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Back then it was a different story.

The Cubs were arguably the most successful NL team in the first 20 years of the 20th century. Heck, you could make the argument that the Cubs were the most successful NL team, pre WWII.

I am a traveler of both time and space to be where I have been. Robert Plant 1975

by cmpody on Apr 21, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heck, you could make the argument that the Cubs were the most successful NL team, pre WWII.

The only team that could counter this argument might be the Giants. The Cubs won ten NL pennants in a 40-year span (1906-45), an average of one every four years. Pretty impressive.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying is...

There’s a possibility it could have only been 93 years without a WS rather than 103.

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by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 21, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Why did the Cubs play their home games this series at Comiskey?

If they started using Wrigley (Weeghman) Field for the Cubs in 1916 why didn’t they use it for this series? That website that Mak19 gave about the Original Curse said they played at Comiskey.

#10 You will be missed.

by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 21, 2011 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I knew it!!!!!!!!!!!

I had a feeling when I was watching that it didn’t look right!!!!

by TJ11 on Apr 21, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

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