Cubs Comeback Defeats Dodgers, 10-8
by Al Yellon on Apr 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT
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PrintThis one was well worth everyone's entertainment dollar.
The Cubs' 10-8 come-from-ahead-then-behind win over the Dodgers Saturday afternoon had a little bit of everything: bad pitching from starters, good relief and bad relief, a successful double steal (!) by the Cubs; a couple of questionable umpiring calls (one benefiting each team), even sunshine and temperatures in the 60s, something that has been missing from Wrigley Field all season.
And just when pretty much everyone in the ballpark was screaming for Carlos Pena to pinch hit for Jeff Baker with two men on and two out in the eighth inning, Baker, who rarely hits righthanders, smacked righty Blake Hawksworth's first pitch into the right-center field gap for the eventual game-winning runs, to the delight of a sellout of 41,161. Most of those ticketholders actually showed up on the nice afternoon; there were maybe 2,000 no-shows, although the right field upper deck emptied out by the eighth inning. That's where the strong west wind was blowing. In the bleachers, some were in T-shirts and shorts for the first time this season.
Now, back to the beginning. Ted Lilly got warm applause from Cubs fans as he did his usual pre-game outfield run; then he proceeded to give up 11 hits in less than five innings, and the Cubs had fashioned a 5-1 lead. But the much-anticipated pitching matchup with Ryan Dempster turned into a battle of the bats, as Dempster spent much of his time giving the lead back; he surrendered three home runs before he, too, was mercifully taken out of the game.
What appeared to be a huge turning point early in the game turned into simply a conversation topic -- Mike Quade's failure to bat for Dempster with the bases loaded and two out in the fifth inning, when Dempster clearly had nothing and the Cubs were clinging to a 5-4 lead. Dempster struck out on a 3-2 pitch and then proceeded to stink it out in the sixth, finally forcing Quade to call on Sean Marshall to face Andre Ethier. That was the right thing to do at the time, though a bit late, and Ethier made the move look bad by driving in the then-lead runs to make it 7-5.
Two Dodger relievers threw 1-2-3 innings, but it was Jeff Samardzija who kept it close. Props to the Shark, who faced four batters and struck out three to keep the game at 8-5 before the Cubs batted around with their winning five-run rally. Besides Baker's game-winning double, key at-bats in the inning were made by Reed Johnson, who laid down a perfect bunt single; Kosuke Fukudome, who worked a walk; and Starlin Castro, who drove in the first two runs of the inning to make it 8-7. After Darwin Barney tied it with a forceout, Aramis Ramirez kept it going for Baker with a bloopy little hit to left in front of Jerry Sands.
Sands played some outfield in the minors, but was later moved to 1B. The Dodgers don't have an opening at 1B, so to get Sands' bat in the lineup, he's been playing left field for them. He's not hitting and let two balls drop in front of him for hits today; both runners scored.
It's absolutely clear to me that this team is different from last year's. Last year's team would have folded up its tent after going behind 8-5; this year's club seems to know how to come back, having done so on several occasions already even in games they haven't managed to come all the way back and win. Starlin Castro had his third four-hit game of the season and seems to have a knack of getting hits when they mean the most. And the Cubs had a 16-hit, four-walk game without a single home run, scoring with -- I hate to use the phrase, but it appears true -- clutch hits. They were 6-for-15 with RISP today.
Carlos Marmol finished up rather uneventfully -- only one walk -- for his fifth save.
A few loose ends: the Cubs have now hit the .500 mark at every number from 1-1 to 10-10; that is a new major league record, surpassing the 1951 Red Sox and 1970 Yankees, who got to 9-9. Now would be a good time to start a winning streak and snap that record.
The strange call in the first inning -- when the umpires ruled Starlin Castro had intentionally dropped the ball -- did not make sense to me. If he was ruled to have caught the ball, he then caught a runner off first base for a double play. If he was ruled to have dropped the ball, he also completed a double play. It's an academic discussion since the Cubs won the game, but this didn't seem to make sense. The only way it does is if the ball is ruled dead at the time it was "intentionally" dropped.
When James Loney was ruled to have interfered with Darwin Barney on a pickoff play in the fourth inning, it almost seemed like a makeup call for the first one; Barney went way out of the baseline, but the umpires said it was because Loney interfered. That one didn't matter, either, as Marlon Byrd, the next hitter, grounded out to end the inning.
So the Cubs have a real momentum-building type of game under their belts; it remains to be seen whether they can use it that way, but this feels a lot better than last year.
Finally, a word of caution after such a nice win seems out of place. But the decision, which has apparently been made, to start James Russell again on Tuesday, is, in my opinion, an enormous mistake. Russell is a decent situational lefty, but he really has no business starting a major league game. The Central division is up for grabs; all the teams are flawed and if the Cubs really have any intention of going for it this year, they simply cannot afford to give games away every five days, which they have essentially done with Russell's two starts. Mike Quade has a couple of days to change his mind. Let's get someone here who can actually start a game.
In the meantime, winning another series would be nice. Carlos Zambrano will face LA's Hiroki Kuroda tomorrow afternoon.
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This win just felt good.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
The Dodgers lose
for the first time in the Bud Selig era.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
I said almost the exact same thing
In the game thread right after the Cubs won.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
For mine, I said
“Hey Bud, it was great seeing your team lose!”
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Reminds me of the Brewers in the AL
Or the Expos for the final three seasons.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The lottery?
The drawing is later…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Hah!
If I win ill buy everyone on here a ticket for a game lol. Update later
by bleedinblue76 on Apr 23, 2011 5:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, Al
You wanted 2008 back, and you pretty much got it. A five-run rally in the 8th? Very ’08, that.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Indeed.
Now let’s replicate the rest of that season. (Well, except the October part.)
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hear hear!
Now THAT was a fun game … something we haven’t seen too much of over the course of the past year and change
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
I'd take the October part...
after the last couple years and how lucky the Cubs would need to get to have that at all.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone know what the story is about castro's different batting stance compared to '10?
With Derrick Rose on the other team, no. It’s like a crazy stalker ex-girlfriend. Everytime you tell her you don’t want to talk to her, she’ll show up at your door again. ~Danny Granger
Wow, my friend mentioneed the exact same thing at school the other day
by braziliancubsfan on Apr 23, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
'10's looks nicer
but you cant argue with ’11’s results
With Derrick Rose on the other team, no. It’s like a crazy stalker ex-girlfriend. Everytime you tell her you don’t want to talk to her, she’ll show up at your door again. ~Danny Granger
by jesus christos on Apr 23, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Jay Jackson
is scheduled to pitch for Iowa on Tuesday. I don’t know that he’s stretched out enough to throw many pitches, but we know Russell isn’t stretched out enough to go deep in the game.
Then Jay Jackson should start for the Cubs on Tuesday.
Sending Russell out there again is simply saying to the Rockies, “Here. This game is yours.”
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I'd really rather go with
Diamond or Bibens-Dirkx.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 23, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Either way
It probably would be better than trotting out Russell again. Like Al said, he’s OK in the pen, but not as a starter.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I posted a poll on the sidebar.
I don’t think I need to guess how it’ll wind up.
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I guess the two who voted for Russell starting are:
1. James Russell, and
2. Quade
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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I doubt Russell would vote for himself - he probably understands his limitations better
And he’s starting because his boss tells him.
That's an awfully loaded poll, Al ;-)
/s
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
I could have put other choices
… but I figured this would get the point across.
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it's perfectly constructed
my simple brained cat could have made a better decision than that. Glad I’m going to be way too busy on Tuesday to give that game any mind at all.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
Maybe they'll ask Woo Woo.
He’s already in uniform.
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No, that's still a bad idea.
You see, that would continue to allow him to get inside the ballpark.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
shut your mouth!
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
He said
“anyone else in the entire known universe.” I voted for Russell. Never know. It could be worse.
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Hm.
Maybe I should have said “anyone else in the entire known universe EXCEPT HWSNBN”.
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He's an idiot, not a freaking pitcher :-)
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
We might need 2 of the 3 before too long...
because it really looks like Dempster isn’t right to me.
I’d rather go with Diamond or Bibens-Dirkx only because I’m really not worried about a roster crunch or burning up their service time. Not sure I want to take that risk with Jackson.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing that would make sense to me
to announce that the Cubs are starting Russell is to make a last minute switch to bring up somebody new in the minors. If they announce him in advance and then do the last minute switch to Jay Jackson or Dirkx, the opposing team doesn’t have much time to put together a scouting report.
Do you know what this mean? It means that this damn thing doesn't work at all!!!
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
A hyperlink fail doesn't work at all?
Sounds about right.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
haha no the "College of Pitchers"
Has not worked, will not work!
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I meant,
I see a “Image hosted by tripod” logo instead of the picture you’re linking to.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
How stretched out
do you have to be to throw 2 innings?
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Yep. They're gonna be like Kessinger and Beckert in the lores of Cubdom.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Maybe better.
Castro’s a far better hitter than Kessinger.
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And Barney has a chance
to be a better hitter than Beckert was.
Too early for a Whitaker-Tram comparison, but somewhere between them and Kessinger-Beckert might be apropos at some point.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's possible that the league will figure Barney out.
But he looks legit. Might be a big part of this team’s future.
Barney's eye at the plate
Will be his saving grace for the times when he’s struggling to put balls in play. He makes you throw a lot of pitches. I value that skill highly (probably higher than I should). Combine that with his sparkling defense, and you’ve got a kid with a lot more promise than some of the butchers we’ve seen in the middle infield. I still feel that he may be dealt at some point, but he’s going to have a place on an MLB roster for a few years to come, barring injury.
Just please, no one ask him to try hitting for power.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
There is a lot to be said
for having someone in the lineup who can work a count and make the pitcher throw more than he should/would otherwise.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd agree with that analysis.
These two could be a fixture DP combo for the Cubs for many years to come.
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Castro and Barney don't K much
This was mentioned on the KCAL broadcast out here, so I looked it up at Baseball-Reference.com. Castro has 6 Ks so far and Barney has 5.
To tell the whole story, each has only 4 BB as well. But as long as they keep hitting then they won’t run the risk of becoming Neifi Perez anytime soon.
I would even say...
without Castro and Barney at the top of the order, where would this team be exactly right now? I think they’re 7-4 with those 2 at the top of the order. Add in Marshall and Marmol, and the youth of this team seem to be the ones carrying the load? This is the real issue over the years to me…maybe the Cubs finally have a manager or philosophy that youth (with a sprinkling of veterans) might be the right recipe.
Well, except for these two mentions, no.
Starlin Castro, who drove in the first two runs of the inning to make it 8-7.
Starlin Castro had his third four-hit game of the season and seems to have a knack of getting hits when they mean the most.
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It is that simple
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Here you go.
Starlin and Darwin both rhyme with “Win”.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If you stretch it, so does Marlon
I guess you could throw Colvin in there too, but Aramin? Carlin? Alfonsin?
Not seeing it :/
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Clutchin'?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, for everyone who celebrates it,
Happy Easter. Have a happy and safe day tomorrow.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 4:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
A second, five-run eighth inning rally after trailing Al.
The other time was game two when we sat together in the bleachers. Go Cubs!
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by Zeke on Apr 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Great comeback
But my honeymoon with Mr. Quade is officially over. He’s left Dempster in too long every start.
Yeah letting him bat
with the bases loaded after already giving up the HRs was a bad idea.
by stuartscottslefteye on Apr 23, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be quite as ridiculous if he hadnt gotten burned every single time
I mean MY GOD learn from your mistakes FFS!
Of course he doesn’t really seem capable of that when it comes to the pitching staff since Russell is getting a 3rd start
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 23, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I just wrapped up watching the Bulls game
and was very pleasantly surprised to find it here that the Cubs have made a big improbable comeback.
But my dislike for Dempster has been growing exponentially after his start. Issuing walks like there is no Tomorrow, serving meat balls right down the middle etc. If it were Z doing that crap he would have been roasted by the media.
Only because Z ...
would have destroyed three water coolers if he’d been as bad as Dempster’s been.
As I said below, Dempster looks terrible right now.
But there’s a reason Z’s bad performances make headlines. He usually melts down.
He didn’t exactly pitch very well to start the season — 6.11 ERA going into Monday’s start. But he kept his head, and the media didn’t touch him.
Absolutely. I love Dempster the guy. But his glory days on the pitcher's mound may be limited....
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i think we are seeing the result
Of no Rothschild
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by VegasCubFan on Apr 24, 2011 10:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i think we are seeing the result
Of no Rothschild
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
by VegasCubFan on Apr 24, 2011 10:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i think we are seeing the result
Of no Rothschild
By all that's holy, I am going to attend the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp.
by VegasCubFan on Apr 24, 2011 10:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
You don’t say.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 24, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you sure?
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 24, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think VCF is.
You see, he only said that three times. If he’d repeated himself, say, five or six times, then he would be sure.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 24, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
stupid cell phone!!!
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by VegasCubFan on Apr 25, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Great win.
And yes, this team is different than last year’s team, Al. And I think Reed Johnson is earning himself some more starts.
I am pretty worried about Dempster, though. He doesn’t look like the same pitcher. Quade’s second enormous mistake of the day — after announcing that Russell will start Tuesday — was letting Dempster hit in the fifth. I can see letting Dempster hit earlier in the game in that situation, but after five innings — and with how Dempster was pitching — it was a ridiculous decision.
Quade needs to stop making ridiculous decisions.
Agreed on all counts.
Could Dempster be hurt? He was great in spring training. What happened?
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Now ... that's interesting.
Given the state of the rotation, losing another starter would be pretty terrible. Dempster might be trying to grit it out for the team. But if he is hurt, why would Quade be leaving him like he did today?
OTOH, Dempster might just be tapped out. He and Lilly are in their mid 30s, and usually, players start getting worse in their mid 30s.
Perhaps
But pitchers often can extend that curve a little bit.
I have no explanation for Dempster at this point. Yeah, he was good in spring training, but that’s not necessarily a great gauge.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Demp's not a soft-tossing lefty, though
He’s a sinker-slider guy who is still most effective when he’s throwing 90+MPH. His troubles have been with the second (and third!) times that the batting order has seen him, getting balls down in the zone after the 3rd or so, and some wildness. I’d expect the wildness to work itself out, but his placement problems and predictability may be another issue altogether.
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Your second point was the problem today
His slider wasn’t sliding; it was staying up in the zone. He worked it out a litlte by the end of the fifth, but apparently it came back in the sixth (I was multitasking and not watching every pitch).
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
It's strange, though...
… that he’d have a solid season in 2010, have a good spring, and then suddenly lose it on Opening Day? That doesn’t make sense.
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Maybe it's time to dump him.
How’s his contract looking?
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
When you already have two starters on the DL,
that’s not a very good idea.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It depends on what you can get for him
Not saying they need to do it right now, but maybe after the All Star break if the Cubs are a few games out. Of course I’m saying to do this if Cashner and Wells come back and are pretty consistent. Dempster is just giving up a lot of HR’s and it’s hard for me to have faith in him on days he gets the ball. Last year, and the year before I could sleep easy knowing Demp pitched the next day, now I have bags under my eyes!
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the Marlins would take him back
Demp for Nolasco
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Cubs send along 20 million, then maybe.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
It was an unwritten rule
Quade had to keep the game close.
by Bad Midget on Apr 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Q is fearful of overtaxing the bullpen again
And that’s why Dempster stayed in the game.
Bottom line is Cubs starters are going to have to go deeper into games. Z needs to go seven Sunday.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This was a different situation, though.
Dempster wasn’t just pitching badly. He was due up in the fifth inning with 2 outs and the bases loaded. You pull a struggling pitcher at that point.
I could go either way with it
As it turned out, it’s not like Marshall (who presumably would have started the sixth) was on his game today, either.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but you can't make decisions presuming Marshall will suck it up.
And, again, it would have been VERY different if Dempster had been hitting with the sacks packed and two out.
Honestly, had the inning ended before Dempster came up ...
I wouldn’t care that much.
That would seem more reasonable if Q were not proposing to start Russell again
If the goal is not to overtax a hard-worked pen, Q really needs to pay attention to all aspects of that problem.
Time to go all platoonie
Johnson and Baker in against LHP; Colvin, Dome and Pena against RHP. When you don’t have overwhelming talent, you need to set up good match-ups.
What a game!
Props to Shark, game MVP just keeping it close??
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Apr 23, 2011 5:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He still walks too many guys...
… and had some long counts today. But he got the job done. If he can keep building on these good outings, it will really help the back end of the bullpen.
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Other than the walks, he's been decent this year.
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 23, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps
he has turned a corner a bit.
Is that split-finger fastball a new pitch for him?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If he can throw that effectively,
then he just might end up being a useful tool. Instead of just a tool.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He's tossing a cutter for strikes
That’s definitely a new one.
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Barajas' homerun looked pretty windblown
Hard to fault Dempster for that one.
And it’s hard to take out the starter in the 5th when the ’pen’s gassed every day. (Of course, it’s Quade/Hendry’s fault that the pen is gassed, but that still makes it hard to take the starter out early.)
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions
I get your point ...
but the Cubs called up Justin Berg, so they had a fresh arm in the pen if necessary. Also, Shark was good to go for 1 and 1/3, and Kerry hasn’t pitched much of late.
True, Wood hasn't pitched much
In general, I’m not a big fan of the way that Quade has handled the pitching. I didn’t think that this one was all that egregious, though.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Two out in the fifth, not sure that I agree
Wouldn’t have been surprised to see a PH, but didn’t think it was the worst call ever. Hell, it wasn’t the worst decision he’s made this weekend.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It made sense to leave him in to bat
It did not make sense to leave him after he served up the home run and Marshall was fully warmed up.
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by Doggie Stalker on Apr 24, 2011 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Having Dempster swing
made no sense at all. This is what Lou did last year . Most of the time it was a out . I would think that Quade had learned something .
Much?
He hasn’t pitched since the 16th. That’s not normal.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He was warming up today
… and would have come in to throw the 9th if the game had still been tied.
Still, I agree. He needs work.
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Kerry hasn't pitched at all
Its been a freaking week. Something is wrong and for some reason they’re hiding it and having an already gassed bullpen get gassed even more.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 23, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Lots of assumptions there.
First, there was a rainout. Then there was a blowout game. He warmed up several times in appropriate situations. He’s not hurt, and nothing is wrong
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then its just poor bullpen management
Hooray!
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 23, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Who runs the bullpen, when are they to blame, and are they to blame
for anything? If anything goes sour during relief efforts for the entire season is anything throw on this person in charge?
by alabamacubbie on Apr 23, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
What a game
What a special player Starlin Castro is. He is becoming a franchise player already at the age of 21. If he and Brett Jackson are for real — we might have two blue chip, all-star caliber players who have came out of organization and could be a very big pitch to get big name FAs in the near future.
However, I am worried about Dempster. He is just not the same, don’t know if it’s an injury or not.
Tyler Andrew Davis - Born 4.5.11
A Cub fan forever more... just like his dad.
Castro
Leads MLB in hits at the moment. Might want to keep this kid for a while and see if he learns how to play baseball. :)
"I lof to hit de home ron!"
Someday, I hope he's as good
as Davey Rosello was. That’s all. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Al, you're mistaken about the "blown call" against the Cubs
An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and
second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out.
The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
And Loney
was in Barney’s baseline without the ball — making it a moot point of Barney running outside the baseline.
Barney would of been out if he was avoiding the tag. However, Barney was not avoiding the tag, he was avoiding Loney.
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Correct
As Hughes pointed out on the radio, though, it was surprising given the lack of contact. Barney should have probably gone ahead and run into Loney to ensure the call.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, thanks for the explanation.
As I wrote, the only way it makes sense is if it’s a dead ball after it is “intentionally dropped”. That is exactly what the rule states.
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Yep, you did, and I glossed over that when writing the subject line
So I could have worded it differently!
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 23, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Would have been moot if Aaron Miles had just thrown the ball to Lonely.
Then Loney would have either tagged Barney or Barney would have been out for leaving the baseline trying to avoid a tag. But for reasons only Aaron Miles (and perhaps Ryan Theriot) can explain, he just held onto the ball.
by the nth on Apr 23, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With the way Demp is pitching
The Cubs really only have 2 starting pitchers right now. Andrew, Randy, heal fast.
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 23, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
Please leave Castro at the top of the order!!!!!
Why was Byrd back at 3 today? Baker can do that vs a LHP!!!!!!!
I am thrilled by the win today but it sucks that we have to hear about the Cubs being unable to make obvious calls like not starting Russell again?
When is Essian going to learn?
Byrd had a pretty good day, TJ.
Against lefties, hitting him third isn’t a terrible idea.
Baker hitting fifth seemed to work today.
And Castro seems to hit no matter where they put him.
Too much angst about lineup selection, I think.
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ddint seem to hit well in the short 3-hole experiment
he seems to light it up in the lead off spot, though
With Derrick Rose on the other team, no. It’s like a crazy stalker ex-girlfriend. Everytime you tell her you don’t want to talk to her, she’ll show up at your door again. ~Danny Granger
by jesus christos on Apr 23, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems like he's breaking out of it a little.
Looked better today.
Yes the way he's "hitting" now...
especially against LHPs. He was far more productive than Marlon Byrd today. Or have you still not realized the value of a walk?
Soto hitting higher in the lineup than Marlon Byrd shouldn’t be an experiment… It’s a necessity if this team really is going to post a record even close to .500.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Didn't you just say there's too much angst about the lineups?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 23, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
But I can still agree with a point made.
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Come on man..
it was a good win. Enjoy it. No need to need to nitpick and complain about things when the lineup was not the problem at all today.
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by Unique on Apr 23, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
5th
I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.
Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -
Stacey King
6th
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
infinity.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 23, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
beyond.
I just want to win...
Poster formerly known as Wrigster.
by bilbosbuttons on Apr 23, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously, I'm OK with some nitpicking.
But the lineup wasn’t the problem today.
Of course.
There is no reason to feel 100% complacent after today’s win. Sure, we still need a true #3 hitter. Sure, we would like Jay Jackson or Bibens-Dirxs to get a shot instead of Russell on Tuesday. And we all are wondering what the hell is wrong with Dempster.
But we’re fans because we love to see the Cubs win. And if the Cubs win, it’s just nice to relax and be happy for alittle bit. Especially after a big comeback win today.
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by Unique on Apr 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for putting it that way
This isn’t supposed to be an angst-filled exercise EVERY day. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the Unique perspective
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Are you suggesting
that no one should be criticizing the misuse of Dempster AGAIN? Sorry, I can love the results of this game and the wonderful comeback and still critique mistakes which should not have happened.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Ummm...
no! no no no no no no!!!!
How many !!!!s do I have to use? Castro absolutely cannot bat leadoff. It’s such a waste of a guy whose only offensive skill right now is putting bat on ball! Please tell me how much sense it makes for the most productive hitter on the team to have the pitcher’s spot in front of him?
Especially the way Barney and Fukudome are producing right now.
Now, this is against a RHP where Fukudome is a superior option. Against LHPs, you can pick this lineup out of a hat and score 6 runs… and that includes batting Marlon Byrd wherever.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW...
the best thing to come out of today’s game (other than Baker getting a big Xtra base hit off a RHP… is Barney getting a start against a LHP instead of Baker. He only had 6 PAs against LHPs this year, so far. Finding out Barney’s true value is a top priority for this year.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You can use all the !!!!!!s you want
but until Castro and Barney take a nosedive, they belong exactly where they are. Castro has an 1.171 OPS batting lead off and that’s before his 4-5 game today. Everywhere else, he’s about .635. It’s not like he’s a HR hitter. I want him where he’s successful and where he makes the offense the best possible.
If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
No question about it
As bad as Pena has been, he’s worse RISP, .125. More Baker and more crooked numbers.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
So...if we were to say win tomorrow...
and on Monday against the Rox, they’d STILL start Russell and probably end a nice winning streak?
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
That's what it sounds like.
What a terrible decision that would be.
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I agree totally...
what an intentional way to stop a good thing. I’m not sure what’s going on, but, Coleman only went 2.2 yesterday and I’m sure he could at least start Tuesday’s game. Would that be too risky?
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2.2 innings...
… but 90 pitches. Probably not.
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He went 2.2 innings
but he threw 90 pitches.
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Like I said before.
Let’s just hope our bats are awake on Tuesday and we score 10 runs or more.
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They may be hoping for a rainout so they can skip Russell
at least, I pray that’s what’s going on
No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.
There is rain in the forecast Mon, Tues & Wed.
So maybe they’ll get lucky.
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Yeah, but...
how long they gonna play this stupid “College of Pitchers” routine? Any word on WHEN Wells will be ready?
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
No update on anything yet.
He and Cashner did some light throwing a couple of days ago.
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The tentative timetable (say that five times fast!)
Is two weeks. Or so I’ve heard.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Yeah...
that’s what happened last time, and they just ended up having to pitch him in a doubleheader instead. There’s no positive solution that involves actually starting a game with James Russell. That makes a weak rotation and a weak bullpen. It’s standings suicide.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone update me on the pitching rotation?
So Dempster, Zambrano, and Garza are healthy. When does Wells and Cashner come back?
Cubs have not been on the forefront of my mind cause of the Bulls and Blackhawks.
That’s why I am a little out of the loop.
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 23, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Little slip up by Da Bulls today...
they’ll be OK tho.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Sounded like
the crowd was at least half-Bulls in Indy today.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I am from Indiana
and most of the people I know are Bulls fans. It’s mostly due to the Michael Jordan era. My guess is if there was a poll, 40-50% of Hoosiers living North of Indianapolis would be Bull fans. Especially the majority of NW Indiana.
Why is Dempster a question mark?
Far as anybody knows, he isn’t hurt. Just bad.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 24, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but why is he bad so seemingly all at once? That may indicate an injury
And based on their recent track record, the Cubs’ training staff would never find it…..
Yeah...
alot of red in the stands. They need to dispose of this Pacers team next game and hope Atl/Orl series goes the distance. Bulls look tired and a bit hobbled.
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reply fail
crap
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Trade Dempster while he is still worth anything..
I know he’s a great clubhouse guy blah blah blah but you guys say all the time that this is a business and those who perform deserve to play and those who don’t need to move along. I was so happy when the Cubs traded Lilly last year and I think we might be able to get some prospects from the Yankees for Dempster and he can go back to working with Larry again (maybe that is what is missing). I believe the window of opportunity is shrinking every time he takes the mound.
So trade him when his value is low?
And the Cubs already are missing two starting pitchers. What do you propose to fill that gap?
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Russell
can start twice every five games! He is a bullpen guy after all, they can go two out of every five right? I would guess so , looking at his pitch counts…
by thebluecrew1908 on Apr 23, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
LIND!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 23, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Knock off the namecalling.
It’s a site joke. You might want to try reading all the site info on the right sidebar.
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Wow that is really hypocritical Al
I fully understand what the post is in reference to and I have read the site info on the right sidebar. I have been following this site for years and find it unnecessary for people like him to make one word comments on everybody’s posts just because he is a miserable human being with too much time on his hands. I find it absolutely within my rights as a poster to fire back at someone comparing me to a 12 year old poster who got excited about something and decided to tell the world. The facts that you have always allowed people to make fun of that poor kid still is beyond me and one of the reasons many of my friends who used to follow this site no longer do.
by IowaCubsWS09 on Apr 24, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
that you don’t make as good a case as you think for being a kind, compassionate individual.
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
I know
that you know that you don’t know what you just said
by IowaCubsWS09 on Apr 24, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
What he said is a reference
To one of the most famous BCB FanPosts of all time.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 24, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
now you have been initiated into the fellowship
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
I would propose that we make a trade for another underperforming
player from another team (Brett Gardner) that could use a change in scenery and call up Carpenter… I think Carpenter is fully capable at putting up a sub-7 ERA and can do so without being paid $12M this year
by IowaCubsWS09 on Apr 23, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Just my luck....
Followed the game up until there were two on and nobody out in the 8th but had to stop and run errands. Never imagined the team coming back to win this game, pleasant surprise!!
That Castro can flat out hit…..
Get the series win tomorrow big Z!
Castro has beast mode.
Go Cubs.
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by Castro Por Presidente on Apr 23, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions
I don't know if it was already discussed, but that is exactly what the ruling was, according to Len and Bob
The only way it does is if the ball is ruled dead at the time it was “intentionally” dropped.
We'll all miss you Ron.
What is wrong with Kerry Wood????
He’s thrown exacty 1/3 of an inning in the last 7 days. That’s unacceptable, considering all the innings the bullpen has been forced to throw.
Either he’s hurt, or Quade has no idea how to use a pen. There have been numerous situations when he’s been needed.
If someone’s already commented on this, I apologize. But I’d love an answer!
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 6:38 PM CDT reply actions
He's been warming up several times
He was up today in the bottom of the 8th and then sat down when they took the lead. It happened at least once earlier this week as well.
I’m surprised that Quade didn’t just let Wood pitch the 9th since he was probably ready.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Apr 23, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think
there’s been a good spot to use him in the last week or so. That said, I’d be surprised if he didn’t pitch tomorrow, regardless of the situation.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
i disagree.
i was at the game against the rockies on sunday leaning up against the railing over the bullpen. wood and mateo were both up in the 8th inning of a tied game. Mateo came in, Wood sat down.
i have no idea why quade seems to avoid using woody.
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
He uses him in the eighth when they're ahead
I haven’t heard about him being hurt or sick.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, that’s what im saying. – he only uses wood if he has the lead in a game at coors field (know for offensive outbreaks)? that is absurd. yes, you have to save yer closer at an away park, but why would you not use yer best late inning relievers in that situation?
anyway, there’s one example of a great spot use use him in the last week or so.
"I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty," -- Lou Pinella
So has Mateo moved ahead of Wood in Essian's eyes????
Pitching as much as he has lately reminds me of Lou with Colvin last year!!!!
Nope...
this is a concern. He hasn’t pitched since the 16th, even if he was warming up for a game earlier this week.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, then the concern is Quade has no idea how to manage a bullpen
Everyone else in the pen has put up huge amounts of pitches and innings and Wood hasn’t been called.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 23, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, the Cubs actually had a pretty good victory today
and all you can do is come in here and bitch and moan. In every one of your posts on this thread.
God, you must be a lot of fun at parties. Talk about a turd in the punchbowl.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 23, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a valid question....When our pen has been pasted of late and one of our best never pitches, why is that?
It is not shocking that the beat reporters never ask the right questions either…
Make that
two turds in the punchbowl. I think I’ll BYOB, thanks.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 24, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
it's a concern...
whether he’s hurt or not, but obviously would be more of a concern if he is injured.
Nobody can legitimately say they haven’t had an opportunity to get him a game. The team played a DH this week and has had close, bullpen-laden games all week long.
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by jameslcrockett on Apr 23, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We have a superstar
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Tickets outside?
Planning on going to tomorrows game but don’t have tickets. Does anyone have an idea of the ticket market this weekend? Are there enough tickets to be had that scalpers are selling below face? Or would I be better off buying off stubhub and paying the ridiculous fees tonight? Any and all help would be appreciAted. Bringing my almost 3 yr old daughter to her first cubs game!!!
by mikew on Apr 23, 2011 7:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
wouldn't do stubhub
i’d check at box office if you couldn’t find anything at face or below outside – is still a buyer’s market there – with scalpers asking if you want to ‘upgrade’ rather than only trying to sell to those w/o tix
by doofus cubs guy on Apr 23, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Box office
That’s an option if the game isn’t a sell out. I’d like to pay below face given how ba the crowds have been this year and also given that tomorrows Easter.
Why would you stay away from stubhub? Just curious
by mikew on Apr 23, 2011 7:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why don't you support
the many that sell for face or below, right here at BCB?
I have $30 tickets marked down from $50, for instance. In Terrace Box IF
I don’t get it…
There are many other sellers as well.
Sorry E-Man I did not see your post before I replied
I do think supporting people here is good and I also think Terrace Boxes are a good choice for tomorrow.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 23, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I got tickets for next
Wed game from Gold Coast . The price seemed real good and pick up at the Old Harry Carays by Wrigley .
Tickets are being DUMPED for tomorrow
You can get whatever you want WAY BELOW face on stubhub. My personal suggestion would be pair of terrace boxes. I see several in section 219 where I sat today with my standing room ticket or any terrace infield box. They start at $15 bucks a ticket and even with the fees it will come to less than $20 a ticket. Much less than you wold pay at the box office. I also recommend this over regular boxes because they are covered.
Trust me this is a very good deal. You can get regular terrace infield seats for even less but rather than worry about posts I would get these. If you want to be cheap you can get a pair of Terrace Reserve in section 210 row 10 for $8 each that is less than one third of face. In this case I can not urge you strongly enough to go with stubhub, You will get good seats way below face. Do NOT!!!!!! go to the box office and pay more there is no point and while you could get a good deal at the park this is a good deal.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 23, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
One interesting tidbit from today's game.
The runs in the bottom of the eighth were the first runs Guerrier had given up (earned or otherwise) all season.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions
It was so windy in SRO ...
Just how windy was it? We stand at the top of 206 and wrote the sloppiest non-beer-drinking scorecards ever because the wind moved our pens without our permission. At one point a gust of wind blew the head off a beer and hit us in the face. But it was the game of the year so far for us!
One of Lee Elia's 15%
I hope Quade
will Castro/Barney on top until it fails. Of course Russell is starting Tuesday so who knows what the man might do.
Baker should have firstbase against lefties and if Pena continues to struggle, play Baker against righthanders. Of course some around here never wanted Berkman… Oh well.
Great comeback win, a much needed win.
Maybe just maybe Shark has found a spot in the bullpen.
On TV
They could show enough of chicks at the ballpark in the sun. Just about between every pitch in the early going.
It was like “Hey, look at these people hanging out in the sun! Come on down!”.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
If Harry had been in the
booth he would have insisted on having Arnie scan the chicks . Then of course he would have made a few choice comments . First about the female fans then about Budweiser .
Al, question,
Have you heard anything from Dempster about his struggles this year?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
Not personally, no.
But let me see if I can find anything out.
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I tell you looking
at the highlights, everything is up in the zone. Doesn’t matter, fastballs, breaking pitches, everything up and in the middle.
He has to get better. I think he will, just hope it is soon.
I think the most underrated play of the game
was Reed Johnson’s bunt single. That was a hell of a play, and I’m not sure but I think he did that on his own. Regardless, it really got the flow of the inning going, he could have just as easily popped out or GDIP. To me that was my favorite play of the game.
Great win, lets take the series, and then start a real winning streak.. A streak longer then two games. =]
And go Hawks!
Split that makes no sense.
Yes, I am aware it is a very small sample size.
Reed Johnson vs. LHP in 2011: 1-for-6 — the first hit was today’s double off Ted Lilly
Reed Johnson vs. RHP in 2011: 7-for-14, two doubles, a HR.
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I prefer to think of him as
2011 Reed Johnson.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
If Baker would have gotten
out, then we’d all be complaining at what a dumb call it was to put Baker in and not Pena against a righty. I’m glad Baker got a hit, and I find him more useful than Pena. Maybe not defensively, but definately offensively. At least Baker puts the ball in play, for those of you who are going to disagree with me. The point I’m trying to make is that you really can never tell who exactly is going to come through on this squad. Reed one day, Baker the next, you just really don’t ever know. I really like this years team. With the exceptions of a few and a few hopeful trades, I really think, and hope, it’s all coming together.
When Baker got that hit,
I was thinking, “What the heck is this? Who replaced Baker with his backwards clone?”
One of those moves that looks great if it works, or you get crucified if it doesn’t work.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 23, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure about that
There was a RISP, but we’d also tied the game. At that point, you have to assume it’s going to stay that way. Therefore, do not waste guys on the bench unless it’s necessary. I was looking for a PH in that situation, too, but it makes more sense to not get desperate with lefty-righty matchups late in a tie game.
We may have learned too much from Lou.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Hot Hand vs. L/R Matchups
Even though “the book” dictates a lefty hitter against a RH pitcher (and vice versa), it would seem to make more sense sticking with a guy who’s doing well. Baker’s been hitting better than Pena has to date, so even if Baker had made an out in the 8th I wouldn’t have second-guessed Quade for having him bat in that situation.
10-10
500. again.you gotta agree with mr yellon. this team does not quit like last years team.i dont know if it was bringing back respected veterans like wood and johnson,or getting compettitive guys like pena and garza. or maybe its the youthfull enthusiasim of castro/barney. i think its a big mashup of everything. if the starters ever get it together this could be a dangerous team. so far thats been our big weakness along with losing 2 pitchers. hang tough cubbies.
It is time to return dempster to the bullpen.
When Wells and cashner get back, its time to put demp back in the bullpen where the cubs desperately need help. I feel Coleman can do about as good a job as demp, and demp would be better working long relief situations. Would never happen though-putting opening day starter in bullpen.
by mr_einstein on Apr 24, 2011 8:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Zambrano started opening day last year,
And then he went to the bullpen midway through the season. So there is some precedent.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 24, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but all of that precedent is BAD
If Dempster is hurt, DL him. Don’ t think much is gained with him in the bullpen.
I agree with this,
Though I wonder if Dempster is trying to tough it out until Cashner and Wells get back. He’s not helping anyone so far if he is indeed doing that.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 24, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
What makes you say Dempster is hurt?
I mean, I know that that type of speculation goes on all the time, but unless you know something that I don’t, I think it might be baseless. I think (hope) that likely he’s just locating a few of his pitches poorly, and is off to a poor start which happens to most every pitcher. I think he can right the ship, because it would be a bummer to have 3 pitchers on the DL.
been too busy to be online much past month
good to see the Cubs scratch their way out of that stinker ..
hope to catch the game today later. .. I’m off to church for Easter and go back for the musical we do tonight.
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we shall go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
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