Chicago Cubs vs. Arizona Diamondbacks Preview, Wednesday 4/6, 1:20 CT: Headed For The DL
by Al Yellon on Apr 6, 2011 10:18 AM CDT
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PrintIn very unexpected news, Randy Wells is headed to the disabled list today along with Andrew Cashner. Wells has a strained forearm, Cashner a strained rotator cuff (gulp). All the Cubs can do, as Jim Hendry said earlier this morning, is "find a way to get through it". Casey Coleman will be recalled for one of the spots. The other one will be filled later -- the Cubs could actually get along with four starters for a while with all the off days coming up.
Obviously, this is terrible news. But it's early and the Cubs do have options.
The Cubs and Diamondbacks have an interesting history, even though it goes back only to 1998. With the two wins by the Cubs so far in this series, the all-time Cubs/D'backs record is now 44-53.
That splits this way: 26-24 at Wrigley Field, 18-29 at the house of horrors variously known as Bank One Ballpark and Chase Field. And that doesn't include the 2007 division series, either.
Nevertheless, the Cubs have now won eight consecutive games against Arizona -- the last three of a series at Wrigley last April and early May (and after a 10-5 win on May 2, they were at .500 for the last time in 2010 at 13-13), a three-game sweep in Phoenix last July, and the first two games of this series. The Cubs will also have a four-game set in Phoenix at the end of this month. With Ryan Dempster, this year's Opening Day starter, going for his first win of the year today, it would appear to me that the Cubs have a good shot at making that nine straight and ending this homestand on an up note.
Carlos Pena, who suffered a minor thumb injury on Monday, may start today and is likely available to pinch-hit. Tyler Colvin did a good job in his absence yesterday.
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Ryan Dempster got left in the game too long last Friday on Opening Day; the HR he then allowed to Andrew McCutchen left his ERA at an unsightly 8.10, when he actually pitched fairly well. He last faced the D'backs in an 8-3 Cubs win in Phoenix on July 7, 2010, where he allowed three runs in five innings. The D'back who has hit him best is, oddly enough, his former teammate Xavier Nady, who is 5-for-13 against him (.385) with a pair of HR. Nady, though, has not yet played the field this year.
Armando Galarraga started against the Cubs while with the Tigers on June 25, 2009. The lineup in that game is recommended for amusement value only. Current Cubs are 9-for-25 vs. Galarraga. He is making his season, and Diamondbacks, debut after having a poor spring (0-3, 8.44 ERA, 3 HR allowed in 16 IP).
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Wells has a str
I’m guessing you left out a few letters.
Wells has a str?????
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Al's a little choked up about this bad news.
Give him a second.
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Wow. I did not see Wells coming
One reason I did not like the Gorzo trade. You can save up enough potential starters.
Who do we go to after Coleman?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
Cubs get too many guys
in the doghouse. If they didn’t want him anyway, it was a decent trade. My guess, a reliever for the Brewers series, to be returned for Diamond or ABD as a starter.
"If they didn't want him anyway"?
And why exactly wouldn’t they want a decent lefty starter? This wasn’t a good trade. There was no reason to make it.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
It was to save money after trading for Garza.
I don’t think that this can be reasonably disputed.
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Another genius Hendry plan coming to fruition
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah there is a lot of conflicting things going on.
Course that happens when you make a lot of bad contracts like Hendry does.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 6, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Its not about that, and unless you're incredibly dense you already know that
its about making a trade when we didn’t need to.
Honestly, was Gorzo making THAT much money?
We came into the spring with Carlos freaking Silva penciled in as the 5th starter and a bullpen full of question marks. Let’s pretend Cashner and Wells weren’t hurt right now. Gorzo would still be a better bullpen option than Mateo or Russell.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
$1.6M. I don't understand it either.
It’s pretty clear that Hendry had very, very little money to work with in the offseason. (Examples – Trading Gorzo, Meeting with Ricketts for permission to sign Wood, Spreading Pena’s $10M 1-year deal over 2 years)
He wanted Garza badly, and he did what he had to do to get him. It cost the team depth on the 25-man and 40-man rosters.
Unfortunately, Silva showed up super fat, ineffective, and surly, the scrap heap guys (Looper and Welly) have been hurt and ineffective, and the planned #4 and #5 starters just went down.
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Whether or not the Garza deal works out, Hendry should be gone
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Even if it means Wilken going
which may be the case
There's certainly speculation to that end.
I don’t know that it’s written in stone, though. The two men have worked for different orgs in the past. They aren’t joined at the hip.
Also, Wilken will have finished 7 years as Cubs director of scouting by the end of next year, and will have been in the scouting biz for 35 years. It may be a lot to expect him to remain in that post indefinitely.
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I like Wilken
but I wish he weren’t allergic to drafting hitters.
Why would that be the case.
Are they married? Dating? I’ve heard this brought up before.
If Wilkens is as good as some claim, why wouldn’t the next GM retain him?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wilken is purported to be
very good friends with JH. If Hendry goes, Wilken may hold the door for him.
Then I'm okay with that
Hendry is truly a bad GM. Wilken may be good at his job, but he’s not offsetting the damage done.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen to that.
I have no idea why Ricketts would need moar evidence.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 6, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hendry's contract is up after next year.
We’ll have Garza for a year after that.
I don’t know if the Garza deal will be the final determinant.
I do know that I’m substantially less optimistic about the state of the franchise than I was 12 months ago. I am still waiting for the first bit of news from the owners’ box that makes me say “we’re in good hands.”
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Too expensive.
The Ricketts are too money-conscious for my liking.
You would be too
If you had to service a half-billion in debt on a recently-purchased asset. They’re trying like hell to spend smart right now.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
In the last 6 months the Ricketts' AMTD stock has gone from
That’s a massive cash gain, considering that they own 17-odd percent off all outstanding shares of a 12.46 billion dollar company. And each share is paying a .20 dividend.
They’re not worried about money. If they were, they’d liquidate some AMTD. However, they’d rather make cash from their dividends, maintain their share of the company, and… well… beg for public money while spending millions on anti-government spending measures.
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....AMTD stock has gone from 14 to 21.
(Weird, that must have been cut off.)
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I'm really easy to win over.
It’s been a rough 6 months between Ricketts and the fanbase. Really, any piece of news that we could take as evidence that there was some form of accountability in the organization.
Failing that, a revised Wrigley restoration plan – presented without the veiled threats and doublespeak. Just make sense, be willing to share some of the expense and the pain, and stop BSing people for no reason.
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Da new mayor
has told Ricketts not to come to the city/state for a handout.
I don't find that difficult to believe.
Somehow, I don’t see Rahm being too eager to throw city money at a tea-party billionaire who spends millions on ads attacking his old boss.
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Rahm's love of the cubs
should trump his political loyalties.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Not in this case.
He’d get pilloried if he made it look like he was playing favorites.
That was Rahm's doing?
He works quick!
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually don't
I don’t follow Chicago politics that closely
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Simply stating that the Sox already got their stadium paid for.
It wouldn’t be playing favorites if the Cubs got the same.
This does NOT mean I support such a move, simply pointing it out.
Who owns Comiskey?
That’s a pretty massive difference.
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So give the City % ownership of Wrigley.
The city has virtually no say on what the Sox are doing in their park, let’s be honest here.
Ricketts won't do it.
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course he wont.
Not my point. I’m certainly not here to argue politics.
So you're suggesting something that you know won't happen?
what ARE you arguing?
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt that. I don't think he's a "forgive and forget" type.
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I don't think it's clear the Gorzo trade was about cash
I think it was more about trying to re-stock the farm after giving half of it away to get Garza.
by JSB on Apr 6, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, the management bothers me so much.
I was all for keeping Gorzo. They could really really use him right now.
I was also—and I know I’m going to hit hard for this one—in favor of keeping Silva. I dislike the guy just as much as all of you, but they were paying him too much not to give him a spot in the opening rotation. I wanted Cashner to be the first guy in Iowa when a starter inevitably went down in the first 2 months (didn’t think it would be 2 in the first week). I would have been fine if they released him midseason if he crumbled or got injured, but he would have been a good safety to have.
I dunno. He's a pox on dugout chemistry.
It would’ve been better if he’d pitched well in spring training, and then some other team had taken him off of our hands.
Dugout chemistry
doesn’t mean anything when you don’t have enough starting pitchers to start a season.
That argument doesn't really hold water
unless you KNEW we were going to lose two starters in the first week of the season
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well.
Based on what some people were saying around here, it didn’t really sound like Cashner was stretched out enough to be a Major League starter. I won’t pretend to say I saw this coming, but I think we all knew he wasn’t going to make it through a whole lot of the season.
Now, the Wells thing completely caught me off guard. But it would be nice to have another starter with quality Major League experience around (Gorzo).
I totally agree on the Gorzo thing.
I’m less sad to see Silva not around.
I’m not convinced he’s actually better than Coleman
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
First half of last season gave me some reason to think
that he would be able to hold SOME ground to begin the season.
I know he’s an a-hole and this would all be avoided if he would follow directions. I can’t defend that. But the Cubs are going to come out looking really bad in this one. They’re going to have to rely on two guys who I don’t really think are Major League starters—Coleman and Diamond—especially after the league saw plenty of them last season.
I’m concerned to say the least.
Add to that the Cubs don't have a legitimate long man in the bullpen
(at least according to Quade) to clean up after the mess Coleman and Diamond may get into, and I think we can mark this whole situation down under “poor planning.”
Where did Quade ever say that??
Let’s not put your opinions out there as fact, please.
There's one guy who I think we can trust to go long,
that’s Marshall. It doesn’t appear Quade is going to use him that way.
Actually, Casey Coleman did a decent job last year.
Just depends on who they select for #5.
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3 out of 4?
Don’t you believe Coleman and Russell are both major leaguers?
by mic on Apr 7, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Who the hell will be our 5th starter now?
Coleman will take Wells’s spot, but do we stretch our Samardzija? J.R. Mathes? Thomas Diamond? This could get ugly.
Really concerned about Wells, too. He sounds like a TJS waiting to happen.
I vote for Diamond. He did OK last year.
Spellcheck is friggin horrible and you’d be down 5-0 in the 3rd before having to go to your pen already.
Maybe this is a Marshall spot start, considering how many lefties we have in the pen.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
If they want to leave the pen as is...
…I think I’d guess Diamond at the moment.
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I would guess a reliever (gak)
for now. Diamond (after a AAA start) when needed.
Jackson is hurt as well
Carpenter is now considered a reliever
Jackson is
not ready right now. And Carpenter has been moved to the pen.
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by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Apr 6, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
In Iowa
our choices are really Diamond or Austin Bibens-Dirkx. Coello isn’t stretched out and I don’t think Justin Berg is either. I’m pretty sure we don’t want J.R. Mathes taking a start.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 6, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
"Austin Bibens-Dirkx" is the name of a person?
I was certain it was a character in Lord of the Rings.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Great, so in the last two days I've learned the name of our bullpen catcher, and that we have a LOTR character in the minors.
This is important information for my next FanPost.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
CRAP! We lose two pitchers in one day?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Wells has a special trade representative?
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
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Too bad he didn't work more on his Con...
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by Steven Schweickert on Apr 6, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather have a 4 man rotation than put Silva in the 5th spot.
Anyone saying Hendry should regret cutting him after this is dead wrong.
Sounds like Wells will be the first of the DL Duo to return.
I’m worried about Cashner. Aren’t strains technically tears? Why do I feel like we’re looking at 4 weeks MINIMUM before we see him back on the mound?
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by Schwa on Apr 6, 2011 10:27 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'd happily take
Money Ball back in May. He wasn’t going to start the whole season anyway.
I'm fine with that
Missing a month might be a blessing in disguise for Cashner. It would give him plenty of time to make sure he is back at full strength and it would lessen his 2011 innings total by a good number.
I'm pretty sure an injury after your first start is not a "blessing in disguise."
More likely it is a bad “sign of things to come.”
"Rotator Cuff Injury" and "Blessing in Disguise" do not belong in the same thread, let alone the same sentence.
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by D98 on Apr 6, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very true...
…a strained cuff means there is a slight tear in there somewhere and they need to be very careful about it. If your not, a lot of these turn into rotator cuff surgery and the guy may never be the same after that.
They need to be very cautious with him and take it slow.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Here's the minor league pitchers on the 40-man
Justin Berg * R-R 6’3" 225 Jun 7, 1984
76 Alberto Cabrera * R-R 6’4" 210 Oct 25, 1988
33 Esmailin Caridad * R-R 5’10" 195 Oct 28, 1983
76 Robert Coello * R-R 6’5" 250 Nov 23, 1984
27 Casey Coleman * L-R 6’0" 185 Jul 3, 1987
20 Thomas Diamond * R-R 6’3" 250 Apr 6, 1983
66 Rafael Dolis * R-R 6’4" 215 Jan 10, 1988
54 John Gaub * R-L 6’2" 210 Apr 28, 1985
57 Scott Maine * L-L 6’3" 215 Feb 2, 1985
78 Kyle Smit * R-R 6’3" 170 Oct 14, 1987
44 Jeff Stevens * R-R 6’2" 205 Sep 5, 1983
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Stevens or Caridad until
Diamond is due to start. The Iowa shuttle beginneth
I'm confused.
Stevens or Caridad to go where?
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to come up along with Coleman
and serve as an extra reliever, until Diamond’s needed. Then Stevens or Caridad trade spots w/ Diamond
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 6, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
If you hear a screaming noise out of the east
that’s me screaming all the way from Columbus.
Man, this sucks.
Hahahha I bet Carlos Silva feels silly now though.
But I’m okay with the fact we don’t have him.
Call up Coleman and see how long we can go with 4 starters.
AND GET THE BATS GOING. NOW.
Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.
Silly?
Silva is laughing all the way to the bank and saying “I told you so!”
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
I'm slightly concerned Silva reads these blogs
And purchased Cub pitcher voodoo dolls. He’s slowly reeking havoc on this team.
Nope. I guarantee you he's got the Cubs
so far in his rear view mirror it’s not funny. He couldn’t care less what happens to them as long as the checks clear…
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
Yeah, well ...
he’s also probably neck deep in a Sam’s Club’s bucket of pork rinds, anyway.
And with all the money he's getting from the Cubs...
…he can afford to rent out that Sam’s Club for the day.
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Mike Quade.
Welcome to being the Cubs manager.
by elgato on Apr 6, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
A job he won't hold too long in my opinion.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I doubt that could happen ...
with Hendry as the GM.
If Jim Hendry was actually allowed to hire a
4th manager, I would have to seriously wonder why I allow my favorite team to mess with me so much. I mean, if the Quade experiment fails, how in the name of god would Hendry escape?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll tell you how...
Ricketts can’t fire him until he knows who he’ll replace him with, at least…that’s how I’ve been told these things work here on BCB.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I always forget that rule
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Not only that, Ricketts must be able to *prove* that the next guy would be better.
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Can that really be hard to do at this point?
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by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
How much longer is Hendry's contract?
Here’s hoping the new owners will want their own guy, and will hire someone with the advice of Maddux—unless, of course, Maddux wants the job!
Through the 2012 season.
Did the Cubs really think that they had to keep Hendry locked in at all costs?
Also, it seems odd that a team that was being sold would be able to lock in their front office to multi-year deals.
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Not without getting him (back)(again)
from Philly
They have shown a willingness to trade him for Ivan DeJesus in the past.
Especially when Sandberg’s in AAA.
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by D98 on Apr 6, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be funny
if we traded DeJesus to Philly for Sandberg again.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Why do people even bother saying this here?
You have no idea, it’s been 5 games. There’s absolutely no reason to assume he’ll fall on his face. Let’s give the man some time.
Unbridled pessimism is the designer drug of choice this year
by Danwood on Apr 6, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you...
there hasnt been enough crystal method in my life lately.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
Really?
You know you’re a bad manager when, you somehow mismanage your bullpen so that both of your top two late inning relievers are unavailable to pitch in a game… in the 5th game of the year!
You know you’re a bad manager when, you make a defensive switch in the 9th inning, and put Reed Johnson in for…. gulp… Fukudome, while leaving the famously lackluster glove of Alfonso Soriano on his island of terror in LF.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
The mind absolutely reels...
On the plus side, I guess he has nowhere to go but up from here
by bluekoolaide on Apr 6, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually it is fairly common not to have your set up man & closer
available after a series of close games where they were needed in back to back games.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 6, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll give him some leeway on that
Johnson’s “numbers” against Hensley, not so much.
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 6, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Quade says he wants to get his bullpen guys regular work
irregardless of the game situation. If that’s the case, then this scenario is going to happen multiple times this year, when a different management theory would have avoided the issue.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
You always like to see..........
…..Russ at bat in the late innings of a close game with 2 out and the bases loaded.
by DavidArthurKingman on Apr 6, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Needed him to pitch another inning
Since our only options left at that point were Grabow and Marshall
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
All of them were lefties. What the damn difference?
Try to win the game with more RBIs in the 7th.
Instead, we came a bounce away from losing the lead in the 9th.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
BUT....
……Quade put himself in that precarious position with his ill handling of the bullpen.
by DavidArthurKingman on Apr 6, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Don;t get me started again.
You don’t leave Russell in to bat for himself with 2 out and the bases loaded in the 7th, when you’ve already pre-determined that you will be using Marshall, another lefty and your last man in the pen, to finish the game anyway. Marshall has shown his value as a 6 out guy for years now.
To make matters more interesting, Soriano had just made the second out of the 7th with the bags loaded. Great pinch hitting opportunity to put Reed Johnson to the plate, and then double switch and put Marshall in Soriano’s spot to start the 8th.
Then… the cherry on top: Quade makes a defensive replacement in the 9th, and puts RJ in for Fukudome in RF, and leaves Soriano in LF.
Absurd.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
by SackMan on Apr 6, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
"regardless of the game situation."
Meaning, we will use our bullpen guys in high-leverage late-inning at-bats if need be.
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LOL. nice one.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Every time this guy opens his mouth, I do a facepalm
What exactly was it that impressed Hendry so much? Was it SIMPLY that we played better when we were firmly out of contention and the players “liked” him?
Was there any actual evaluation?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Really? I actually find Quade to be quite refreshing and honest.
I don’t judge his quality on whether or not Nunyabidness likes his moves, I judge on the overall outcome of 2011.
So far he’s 3-2 in 2011, and one bad luck inning from being 4-1. Let’s see what the heck actually happens on the field.
by bdlugz on Apr 6, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
"I don’t judge his quality on whether or not Nunyabidness likes his moves"
Well, I’m glad you don’t but since we’re only 3-2 against two teams considered among the worst in the National league, I’m gonna judge him SO FAR on whether I like his moves.
As someone else pointed out, we’re not far away from being 0-5 either. Wins are nice, sooner or later we’re going to start playing teams expected to win more than 70 games this season and then his incredibly strange strategies could come back to bite us.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Nunya has shown dislike for Quade the past several days no matter what happened
He seems to know everything after 5 games.
We'll all miss you Ron.
So.....you don't think he's made ANY questionable calls?
If you actually read what I’ve said “the past several days” I’ve said I am trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but I would like to go one game without a “WTF?” moment and so far it hasn’t happened.
I’ve also said I would love to see him get better. I’m not against Quade, I hope he improves, but I’ve been unimpressed with him so far.
His quotes do indeed make me facepalm. Especially when he explained using the wrong guy in a pinch hitting situation because he was “gritty”.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Feels like it's the Vinny DelNegro era all over again.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Quade actually came out and said
That he doesn’t normally intend to use his bullpen as he has the last few days. He took a gamble on using 3 pitchers to get out of an inning and it worked for him. He’s aware of what is being said and seemed to have a pretty clear answer for why he did what he did. I’m fine with most of his actions so far.
I really like how he talks to the media.
It’s been a positive change!
yeah, me too.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 6, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Twitter says:
@CSNMooney
#Cubs GM Hendry doesn’t expect this to be long-term issue for Cashner or Wells. Surgery is not needed for either pitcher.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Apr 6, 2011 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The question I keep coming back to is...
…could this mean Cashner really is better off as a reliever? Or is this just a bump on the road to his relatively sudden conversion to a starter?
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they've stretched him out well
the only mistake (IMO) was using him as a reliever for no particular reason last year. Scouts seem to think he has a pretty repeatable, low-effort delivery. I really feel/hope that it’s a bump on the road.
by PrincetonCubs on Apr 6, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I think JH said the same thing about Prior...
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
I think Prior and Wood went years "without surgery being needed".
Until it was performed multiple times.
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by D98 on Apr 6, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great. I haven't felt this confident since the Cubs said that Prior would be..
,,,back by te end of Spring Training in ’05.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 6, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
DATELINE 3/29/2006
We knew neither one of them would be ready for opening day," Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said. “Mark has been throwing again and has had no discomfort. Woody has been very, very good.”
Prior, 25, has a strained subscapularis muscle in the right shoulder. The muscle is part of the rotator-cuff group of muscles.
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I'm a little surprised...
…no one has made a joke about Wells straining his forearm hoisting one too many brews at the Cubby Bear.
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Isn't that what you just did?
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
Twitter says:
@CarrieMuskat
#cubs wells and cashner will be re-evaluated after two weeks, and hope is to have better timetable on their return then
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
wow.
That certainly means it’s more serious for both than I hoped.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 6, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
ok ty
Screw the haters. It's Cutler time.
by lexmarklover on Apr 6, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Wittenmyer and Mooney on Twitter...
…reporting that Jeff Russell is in the mix.
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Hasn't started a game since 1988
Might have to keep him on a strict pitch count for the first few starts, but otherwise that’s workable.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 6, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yuck
I rather they keep Russell as the Loogy
Better Jeff Russell than James.
He’s been out of the game since ‘96, but he’d probably still be a more effective relief pitcher.
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Freudian slip.
I’m willing to give James a shot as a LOOGY, but he terrifies me facing right-handed hitters.
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he did ok
for his two innings yesterday.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 6, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad that Coleman is getting the call
although I wish the circumstances were better. I don’t have his stats handy, and they may be lousy for all I know. I guess there’s just some guys who you like and you root for because… well, because you just do.
More importantly, I’m hoping for a speedy recovery for Cashner and Wells.
Looking for a silva lining
Which would you rather have woken up to today (if you HAD to take one):
Wells and Cashner on DL, or
Dempster and Silva on DL?
Honestly?
As well as Wells and Cashner looked, I’m not sure if there’s that big of a difference. Losing Dempster and Garza would be worse, but not THAT much worse.
So far, you are correct
But they’ve all only pitched one game each. Over the course of the season, I would suspect that Dempster and Garza will prove to me more important to the Cubs winning (or not). If both turn out to have Kerry Wood rookie type seasons, though, I’d be good with that!
I know
But my point was he hasn’t shown to have the stuff to compare to Dempster or Garza … or Wood as a rookie, for that matter.
Actually Wells can be compared to Matt Garza.
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Which makes the trade that much more stupefying
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 6, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm still giving Garza a chance...
…to get better. But that trade still isn’t easy to feel comfortable with.
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I'm OK with Coleman.
He pitched well last September. As for the 5th starter, that looks grim.
Silva sure burned his bridges.
If he had swallowed his pride
and gone to the minors he would’ve had to endure about a week of AAA baseball before pretending to be a major league pitcher again.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
Not even that
Minor league season starts tomorrow. He’d have never made a start there.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 6, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
...and so begins another weekly installment of
CUBBIE OCCURANCES.
(Cue the Theramin ‘music.’)
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
I don't think your music is appropriate for this situation.
It should only be played in serious situations that really mean something.
"Rotator cuff injury to Andrew Cashner" doesn't count?
I can think of exactly one sentence that would be worse, and I can’t even bring myself to type a hypothetical involving him.
Shoulders are a mystery. We spent 4-5 years saying that nothing was seriously wrong with Prior’s shoulder, and he never pitched again.
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The only good thing ...
is that the Cubs are saying surgery won’t be required. But the Cubs haven’t been that up front with this kind of thing in the past, and you’re right that shoulders can be balky for a long time.
This MIGHT be the first sign that Cashner’s a better bet in the pen.
Hendry said almost precisely the same thing when discussing Prior's "moderate rotator cuff strain" in March 2006.
Reevaluating in 2 weeks, no surgery will be required, and so on.
We’ve seen Hendry do this dance before.
And for the bonus, I also seem to remember Kerry’s forearm issues down the stretch in 1998. And Strasburg’s forearm strain last year.
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Dude... You may be right
But you are really freaking me out right now.
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
I wish I could say this is a real opportunity for Coleman.
Trouble is, the Cubs are committed to their starting five, so even if Coleman is just lights out, it won’t matter much. Unless the Cubs think he’d be a better choice in the pen than Mateo.
But I don’t see Coleman as a late-inning guy …
Paul Asssenmacher is a better choice in the pen than Mateo.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
In a vacuum, yes.
But the Cubs knew that Coleman would be the sixth starter and that having him starting in Iowa would make it easier for a callup like this.
I doubt they expected to call him up so soon. But I understood why the Cubs went with Mateo over Coleman last week.
Recovery from rotator cuff strain
Is a strain something that can be successfully overcome with rest and exercise? Or it is a fait accompli that Cashner will continue to have problems unless (gulp) surgery is needed?
Rest and ice, yes
We’ll know more in a few weeks though. If it is just a mild strain as they say, it could be nothing in a month from now.
Of course …
by jerry morales rules on Apr 6, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
The first bag of ice is on me :-)
Like everyone else I’ve been conditioned to equate a shoulder strain with a ticking time bomb. So it’s good to know that it’s possible for a pitcher to overcome this without having to go under the knife.
What a lousy way to start a Wednesday
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
all I got to say
is that this news will hopefully be offset by me getting a job that I recently interviewed for today…cant keep piling crap on, can he?
we'll send out positive job-getting BCB vibes, hansman
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
It could be MUCH worse
“No surgery” is the key phrase in all of this.
If you’re being an optomist, this could be “rear view mirror” stuff a month from now.
by jerry morales rules on Apr 6, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
or it could be something you've heard from the Jim Hendry regime A LOT
only to hear they’re gonna get surgery after all, after six months of rehab hasn’t worked
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
In the past few years, I haven't had this feeling.
Certainly, when the Wood and Prior injuries were happening, I thought that the Cubs were far less than honest and upfront. I can’t point to anything inthe past three or so years that has been questionable though. Personally, I think they may have learned from those experiences. It built a lot of distrust within the Cub community.
Has there been anything I’m missing recently?
by jerry morales rules on Apr 6, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Claiming that there was nothing phsically wrong with Soriano and Aram when it was clear to everyone outside the organization there was?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Sori keep on insisting everything was okay?
That one, at least, wasn’t all Hendry’s fault.
Yes. Now find me a player who runs to the media and says "OH GOD IT HURTS SO MUCH!!!!!!!"
Before the team actually makes an announcement.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure they're out there, they are generally not well liked or well respected.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Fred Lynn always caught grief for doing that
It rubbed his Red Sox teammates and management the wrong way, but no idea how it played in Anaheim.
Granted, I never played the game, but I think I prefer it when a guy is forthright with the manager about an injury.
about what?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
One wag suggested he change his name to "Whines Hard"
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
about being forthright about injuries
we won’t know how many times he played with a concussion until he writes a book
Maybe he feels the need to be a "warrior"
But I as a fan would rather have the players on my team not play through injuries.
I'm not sure Soriano wasn't forthright with his manager
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Piniella should've benched Sori for ineffectiveness.
He loved the guy’s enthusiasm, but letting him do as he wished wasn’t a good idea.
OK enough to play
And he was OK enough to play. To play effectively is another story. That was Piniella’s call.
by jerry morales rules on Apr 6, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
And D Lee don't forget
Though I would say that with Lee and Ramirez, they may not have been upfront with the organization as to how bad it was.
They were honest with Sori though. They just decided to play through it. That may have been a bad decison based on performance, but it didn’t seem to cause any further DL time or injury.
by jerry morales rules on Apr 6, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I said this during the game thread
and wanted to repost it now that it is more fitting:
Dear God,
Why do you hate Cubs fans so much? Not only do we have to sit through mediocre management and centuries between championships you also are determined to take away any young, promising, level headed prospect that comes our way. You blessed us during ST by injuring several of our opponents but now you decide to turn the curse to us. Seriously, cut us a flippin break already. You had to crush the careers of Prior and Wood, you made us sit through Cedeno, Pie, Hill, etc and now you are taking away our biggest strength.
Well I guess I shall return to the bottom of the hill to push the boulder back up.
by hansman1982 on Apr 6, 2011 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
First commandment...
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
is it sad
that I could probably quote most of the 1st amendment but I have no clue what the 1st comandment is right now…the Nuns would be proud
you shall have no other God's before me...
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
both apply really....
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
I think I would rather go to a reliever
and that guy would have to be Sean Marshall. He’s been put in this situation before. Russell has had a spot start before, but I would trust Marshall more. It would be crazy to put Shark in the rotation right now. Coleman for 4th spot, and Marshall for the 5th. Call up Caridad and Maine!
no
Marshall’s value comes from him being a reliever…he is a million bah-gillion times more successful in the pen and then you greatly weaken 2 areas.
True, that.
They gave Marshall several chances to be a starter, but he’s a heck of a lot more effective in the late innings.
The trouble is
How many “spot starts” in a row would it be? And would you really want to take one of your best bullpen arms out of a place where he excels and sit him on your bench to be used every 6th or 7th day for 5IP?
Call up another starter.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
^^ THIS ^^
no one is leaving the pen…4 man rotation w/ coleman called up…if necessary, we pull #31 down from the flagpole and hand him a ball
:)
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
I'd like to give Bibbins-Dirkx a shot.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
I'd prefer Bubba Sparxxx
"This is an environment of welcoming, and you should just get the hell outta here." --Michael Scott
ABSOLUTELY!
I’ve been calling for ABD to get promoted to the majors since the day we signed him for just that reason.
Thing is, by now, I’ve got the spelling of Austin Bibens-Dirkx down.
by Josh Timmers on Apr 6, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That means we'll have to reacquire Alburquerque
Gotta keep you on your toes
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
This so reminds me of the feeling I had when Wood went down in '99
A serious feeling that we were somehow cursed by the baseball gods. I mean, what is it about the Cubs that they simply CANNOT DEVELOP A STARTING PITCHER?
Not exactly injury free himself...
…and a headcase to boot. But, you’re right…I guess he’s about the best we can hope for.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 6, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
And...
he’s had an great career. So I’d say the cubs should try to duplicate what they did with Z over and over again.
The last thing we need...
… is to create another headcase. No, thanks!
Be sure to budget for extra Gatorade coolers
And take out extra insurance on your catchers, too.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I wouldn't call Z "great."
He’s not consistent enough, in pitching or in temperament, to be an ace, which is what the Cubs expected him to be.
He's not an ace, perhaps.
But that doesn’t mean he isn’t a great pitcher. He’s one of the best 50 pitchers in baseball, that’s saying something.
That's not what the Cubs thought they were paying him to be.
I don’t find him all that impressive, because of his immaturity.
Actually, we DID develop one perfect, HOF pitcher...
..and we let him walk away.
Just the Cubs being the Cubs.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 6, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
this is extraordinarily frustrating
as much as my brain tells me that the cubs had no chance to compete for a playoff spot this season anyway, it also tells me that if they were to have any slim chance of competing, it would be due to having five competent, legit major league starters in their rotation. if i’m honest with myself, i know that this news doesn’t matter as long as both of these guys are healthy for next season and beyond, but shit………………….
Would Rothschild have made a difference in the ST regimen that each of them followed?
Would he have recommended having Cash start a few games at Iowa? The answer to both of these leading questions is: probably. This is incredibly bad news, especially with the serious consideration of Thomas Diamond as an emergency starter.
"Elder White! Look at the talent on those Cubs!" Harry Caray, KMOX Radio, 4/22/62
"And you have to wonder – What's the matter with Broglio?" Harry, KMOX, 5/24/64
Highly doubtful...
I have a very hard time looking at this as something that was in any way avoidable.
by bluekoolaide on Apr 6, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think we can pinpoint any coaching decisions to this injury,
It happened. Shit happens. Same shit could’ve happened in a start at Iowa.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I say we blaim Dusty
lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story
You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone. - Al Capone
Diamond is an adequate emergency starter.
If our starter doesn’t go five or six, we’re probably hosed anyway.
My bet is
bring up 2 players/pitchers that can help the Cubs this week and then pick a 4th starter when he is needed. The 5th starter can wait a week. That is, unless the Cubs do not want to start a specific player on Options yet. Which Hendry never appears to be shy to do.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
Anyone know who got called up today?
I’m thinking one is Fernanado Perez just for base stealing.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on Apr 6, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
They're 1-4
We can just send anyone out against them.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 6, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really.
The Brewers always give the Cubs a hard time nowadays.
I was joking.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 6, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
And we do pretty well in Milwauke don't we?
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 6, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Especially when we play the Astros.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
nice
I wish I lived in Houston (not really) so I could remind them of that. You know they’re still bitter.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 6, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Cashman is your long-lost twin?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You're a human voodoo doll!
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
It's probably Silva.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Apr 6, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Silva
Leads a list of guys not likely to be featured on a Cubs bobblehead
Leads a list of guys most likely to eat a bobblehead.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Andrew Cashner?
Is that you?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 6, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't decide what theme to use for the Jump links today...
I’m open to suggestions.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions
Since we won yesterday
I think repeating the theme will be fine with most of the people around these parts…dont want to break the mojo
I was rather a fan of yesterday's
And it produced a W – stick with what works, I say.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
+2
wink-wink
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Ugh. Reply fail.
I meant in response to your message: “Thank you, Adam Corolla.”
Wendy's boneless chicken wings.
They are delicious.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I'm not a fan.
Much prefer their spicy nuggets off the dollar menu.
Speaking of boneless wings though, how are they really different from nuggets? Pretty much the same things IMO. For the record, chicken tenders always have been and always will be my favorite food. I attack the kids buffet at weddings and bar mitzvahs. Buffalo style with some ranch? Well that’s just heaven on a plate.
I’ll basically talk about anything to keep my mind off rotator cuffs and forearms.
Twitter: @brandonrifkin
Blog: The Hot Glove || Heckler: The Heckler
by Schwa on Apr 6, 2011 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i agree...
chicken tenders in buffalo sauce with ranch the best..
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
In light of today's news I'm going with disappointed doctors
Here is an example:
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Apr 6, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i really need
SWL to make a Hendry jumping Szmardija( or whatever) picture…
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
The pictures you used yesterday, please.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 6, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't this special
Wells and Cash on the DL. When/where did Wells get injured? Cash not so surprised about but jeez. Come on baseball gods why do you do this to us. I know this is the Cubs, but give us a break cause we surely can use it.
The Lord helps those who help themselves.
Just sayin’
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
maybe someone forgot to sprinkle the dugout w/ holy water last week
:P
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Why won't the Ricketts show ANYONE from this incompetent front office
the door?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps you should write them a strongly-worded letter
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I'm sorry, am I not asking enough unicorn questions for your liking
what would YOU like to talk about?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Unicorns sounds awesome right about now
Puppies and rainbows would be cool, too.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Okay.
If I hurled a puppy through Jim Hendry’s office window and on impact it turned into a rainbow powered unicorn…
Would Hendry offer him a no trade clause?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Only if it was attached
To an 8-year, back-loaded contract
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Crane Kenney does what?
And what should a person in his position be doing? Serious question. I have a hunch that he isn’t particularly good at his job. I don’t know what said job should entail.
What's wrong with our seagulls?
They stay out of Marlon’s way (usually).
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
A ball nearly hit one earlier this week...
Marlon had to crouch in case that did happen, when he was trying to make a game-ending catch.
The birds usually show up after a game is over, but they’ve been appearing during the games lately. (Not yesterday, though.)
I think it has a lot to do
with them thinking the game is over by how empty the place looks.
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Byrds of a feather flock together?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
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Year 2wo, or something.
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by Craig in South Bend on Apr 6, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
Hey, on the plus side:
The Cubs a VERY experienced at this sort of thing. So they know what they’re getting into and so do we. So … uh… hmm. All of a sudden I’m nauseous…
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
hey, on the plus side:
demp will throw an 8 2/3 inning perfect game only to have it wiped out by jim joyce at 1B…oh wait, that’s the OTHER guy…
"I’m not going to say a lot, because if you say the wrong the thing to me, then you (hanley) might wind up on the floor on your rear end," Dawson said with Tony Perez standing by his side in a coach’s office at Sun Life Stadium
Gibby's brought a lot of ex-Detroiters to AZ.
Galarraga never really recovered from that perfect game that wasn’t called a perfect game last season.
I'm sure the book will be perfect
right up until the very end.
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by Craig in South Bend on Apr 6, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm going to GREEN this, but also slightly nod disapprovingly.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
it must taste kinda funny.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
Agh! Look at that lineup from June 2009!
In order: Soriano, Theriot, Lee, Hoffpauir, Fox, Fontenot, Fukudome, Hill, Blanco. Crap, I say, crap!
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Jesus.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Christos.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 6, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
All the Hoff fans were happy
And, hey! We’ll just plug our 1B into the cleanup spot! That’s how it works, right?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Hoff was in RF, wasn't he?
This lineup makes no sense. I see 2 catchers, and 9 hitters.
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Aha - interleague.
Blanco was the DH? Good god.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
Wait - if Blanco was Andres, was Fox the DH?
And Fontenot the 3B, and Theriot the 2B?
So weird. It all came from releasing McGehee – musical chairs everywhere.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
That would have to be Rich
But batting 8th? Were we playing the Cards and Lou felt the need to match TLR’s batting order?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I wrote the lineup for the game on June 25, 2009.
Koyie Hill batted 8th and played catcher.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
SS
Maybe that was Andres. But that would have Fox DH’ing
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Ohhhhhhhhh, right.
I was thinking of Hank White, but he was already gone by then. I’m hurtin’.
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And you call yourself a Cubs fan...
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I can't even keep my Blancos straight.
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NM - Andres Blanco played 2B
I forgot that Riot was always in at SS under Lou until Castro displaced him
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET200906250.shtml
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Boring!
It’s more fun to look on in wonder and try and reconstruct Lou’s thinking.
And to think,, we were still in contention at that point. Cards couldn’t put it together until the end, and then they folded like a lawn chair in the playoffs
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I think you misread who he was replying too.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
In Detroit, right?
Was Hoff DH or RF?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Not the end of the world..
Handling adversity early in the season can build a little character and the desire to pull together as a team. This gives the veteran relievers and the offense in general that they have to show up and perform for the Cubs to be any good. Obviously, if the Wells/Cashner injuries keep them out for 2 months or more, or are a sign of things to come, that’s a bummer, but good teams handle things like this. No excuses if they don’t.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
Oh no, we suck again!
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on Apr 6, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Like the Waterboy ref...
but I’d say after last season you can scratch the again.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 6, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup's Out, DeWitt getting his first start, Soto moved down.....for some reason
Dome, Castro, Byrd, Aram, Colvin, Soriano, Soto, DeWitt
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Hey, we got 5 games before Soto went back to the 7-spot.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
I would STILL rather see Byrd and Soto switch places
but I’ve resigned myself to the fact that no Cubs manager will bat a catcher that high.
If we had Mike Piazza in his prime, I think we’d still bat him 6th or 7th.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
hes in tomorrows lineup
Colvin – 1b
Castro – 2b
Ramirez – 3b
Hill – C
Soriano – LF
Byrd – CF
Fukudome – RF
Theriot – SS
We haven't tried KH
in the 3 hole. Or leadoff.
ahhh
his hitting woes are just that he has a low self-esteem from batting 8th all the time…it all makes sense now
Who are we playing then?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The fact that Theriot is in his lineup
should clue you in
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it
I’m becoming a Rangers fan. This team can go to hell.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Looks ok but
I wish we would do this:
Dome
Castro
Colvin
Aram
Soto
Soriano
Dewitt
Because the way he's hitting
you want him batting with runners on as much as possible
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really a table-setter
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Wow dude.
I don’t think the cubs are good enough to win with only 7 hitters.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Apr 6, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
copy and past missed
byrd at 7—-slow day at the office
Colvin's hitting .182, which is better than Pujols right now, but the key point here is...
Colvin’s not Albert Pujols, are anything close to a three hitter at this point.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither is Byrd
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ARAM might be, though..
I’d say platoon Byrd, Baker, and Dome at leadoff for now, and move everyone else up a spot, maybe even hitting a pitcher 8th to get a couple decent guys behind Starlin.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you know what his club is missing (besides two starting pitchers)?
A: A number 3 Hitter.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Apr 6, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
ohhh but he is
Quade wouldnt put him in the 3 slot if he wasnt a 3 hitter…Byrd is the 2nd coming of Pujols – just wait and see
(He's batting 7th today.)
Swap Geo and Byrd, and suddenly things start making sense.
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
If only there were some decent FA 1B
in the upcoming class
I would need at least 3
$22.5 a year, plus a guarrantee that he gets to start everyday if he wants and he knows the lineups for the whole next season on the day after the WS
by hansman1982 on Apr 6, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You left out
his role as perennial OF coach upon retirement.
That'll just cost us 2 million more
We can just dump Castro to make up for it.
sounds good...
so basically dont sign Pujols so we can sign Grabow, Shark, Hill and Soriano – make Soriano the permanent LF with a 3 year extension (and he gets a ghost runner), we DFA Castro AND we bring Lou back to manage…sounds great!
Oh, and NTC’s all around…
by hansman1982 on Apr 6, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm in if Left Field is an automatic out.
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by Steven Schweickert on Apr 6, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If only I trusted the current regime to make a legitimate play for them
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Butterpants?
Referring to his physique? I haven’t heard that moniker before.
Id only be interested
if he gained about 30 more pounds….dude is too skinny
Send 'im to Camp Colvin!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
A dead 1B does no one any good
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
*cracks up*
He’s just built like his dad.
for some reason
i read this as a number three Hitler.
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
frakkin
clones…
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd still 3rd?
OMG.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I'm guessing that'll be the case until at least 4/17
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
why?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
A few reasons
- You want an everyday starter in that position – that excludes Geo
- Byrd has a little pop and a lot of hustle. The only other guys we can say that about are Castro and Colvin. Colvin’s out for reason #1
- SSS – let’s see what the guy can do
- Limited options
If Byrd is below the Mendoza line and sitting at 3 RBI after a couple of more series, he’ll get moved, but you’d be hard-pressed to find any manager (even a rookie one) making that decision after just 5 or 6 games. Long season – lots of games to be able to change your mind.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
That's not completely unreasonable, but I don't really agree with it.
1. There are other “everyday” starters that could go there (Rami, Pena)
2. He has VERY little pop. He slugged .429 last year. .318 so far this season.
3. SSS?
4. Better options
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Small sample size
And the only better option anybody has suggested is Pena. See below for why I think he may not actually be there yet.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Dammit - that should open a new window
This part of the thread: http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/4/6/2093402/chicago-cubs-arizona-diamondbacks-preview-wednesday-going-for-the-sweep#63325966
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
*shouldn't
Eff it – it’s game time. Let’s go follow that crap instead
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
an entire career is too small a sample size?
He’s not a #3 hitter. He never has been
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
but Pena's out today.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Apr 6, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
This team
Devastating or something close to it. Maybe Wells will be back soon enough. His injury doesn’t sound as serious as Cashner’s. That might make it possible to just bring Coleman up. They don’t need a 5th starter till the 20th. I wouldn’t rush Wells back though. Cashner pitched well in his first start, but I was left with an impression from ST, and the starts made last year, that Coleman might be able to fill-in admirably. I would rather go with Diamond as a 5th starter over any of the fellas in the bullpen. I wouldn’t risk starting anybody on 4 days rest. Does anybody know if Looper can be activated as a last resort.
They’ve given lip service to being a more resilient team and they have been so far. I hope these injuries don’t take the all-out effort any steps back. The team’s offense has started well.
Some more sunshine to counteract the Cash/Wells news..
The Cubs have turned 6 DP’s and have a .989 fielding % in just two errors in their first 5 games of the year, good for 6th and 9th, respectively in MLB. Last year, no one had a lower fielding percantage than the Cubs’ .979. Ryan Theriot already has two errors for the Cardinals.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
I will say, I have been very impressed with the defense playing better
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
After his 3 RBI day yesterday, I wonder if Colvin would have played today if Pena could go?
I would have liked to see Bevington’s thoughts on that…..But Pena saved him from playing Dome over Colvin again.
Colvin's at 1B, dude.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
which is probably why he worded the question the way he did
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohhhh - it's *rhetorical*
I see that now. If Quade drank a pint of unicorn blood for breakfast every morning, would we already be 23-6?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
FFS
his rhetorical isn’t quite as dumbass as yours is.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
But Clutch does make a good point...
Anyone have spare unicorn blood?
Get the city to buy it!
I keed, I keed
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Could Marshall or Shark start?
I mean this is terrible news, but we have to endure somehow
Viva la Cubs Révolution!!!
Making either one of them starters would only compound the problem
for very different reasons.
Marshall hasn’t been stretched out to start in a couple of years.
Shark doesn’t belong on a major league roster.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I want neither
I want Shark to see as few batters as possible – change his name to David Patton if that’s what it takes.
Marshall is too good a reliever and too poor a starter to make that move.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Apr 6, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Please start shark !!!
Worst he can do is screw up one out of every 5-7 games, which will expedite his departure..
At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Silva!
too easy
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
the actual answer is we have zero money to spend
we’re gonna go in-house
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You know you're a bad manager when....
You hit Marlon Byrd 3rd in the lineup for the 6th straight game.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Because the other options are just so overwhelmingly obvious.
This should be more of a, “you know you have a bad GM when…”
We have 3 guys on our team
Who have driven in 100 runs/year multiple times. Marlon Byrd is not one of them.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Rami, Sori, Geo?
One of those is batting 4th, and one doesn’t play every day. You want Sori batting 3rd?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Rami Sori and Pena
Pena’s out now… Rami’s the logical choice. He’s been our best clutch run producer for a while. Get him the additional ABs in the 3 spot.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
I agree in principle
But Pena had that nasty foot injury last year. We may actually be playing the numbers here, as weird as that sounds.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Pena would be a great selection there.
Because the D always put the shift on him to pull toward the right side. But, with Castro on base all the time, it would take the shift away.
However, I’m not the manager, I just stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
BUT WHO ELSE CAN WE PUT THERE??????
::giggles::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't we have to prove someone else will do good there before we change the lineup?
Or does that burden only apply to GMs
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Apr 6, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's a general rule for everything.
No change can be made unless you have a provable better alternative.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
damnit and my Flux Capacitor is in the shop
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
he has had one good game out of five
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
Noooooooooo
Hill has APPEARED in one game out of five. Drawing a walk in 4 PA’s doesn’t qualify as GOOD in my book.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
It's one more walk than Byrd has so far.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say that was his
good game. He was awesome in game 2. He really helped Z that game.
Batting 3rd through 5 games, he has as many RBI's as Fukudome and DeWitt.....one.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You know you're not a manager when..
It seems completely reasonable to rearrange the lineup every time one of your players has a bad series against the pirates..
At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean like Quade did in the second game of the season?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
LHP/RHP..
Most teams in the league do that.
At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Lord.
I’m not even going to get into this with you.
There’s no reason. NONE why he couldn’t try someone else in the 3rd spot, considering other batters have hit in different spots in the lineup.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
But you did just get into it by responding.. which I don't mind, actually..
I get that you don’t think Byrd should have been there in the first place, and I actually agree with you. I was just responding to the point that byrd sucked at the three hole based on a few games, which I don’t think is a good point. I don’t support putting Colvin there, because he’s inexperienced, but I do think ARAm would be good there. Soto would be awesome, but it aint’ gonna happen and he’s actually kind of pedestrian VS RHP anyway (if you don’t believe me check his splits). Here’s my Cubs Lineup:
RHP: Dome, Castro, Aram, Pena, Soto, Soriano/Byrd, Colvin, Pitcher, Barney/Baker
LHP: Byrd/Baker, Castro, Aram, Pena, Soto, Soriano, Dome/Colvin, Pitcher, Barney/Dewitt
At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Nasty Factor
Pujols struck out looking on a Correia 4 seamer that was a 34.
I'm not supossed to say this...
but we’ve already agreed “in principle” on an 8 year contract with Pujols for next year, and his performance so far this season is my proof.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
my new sig.
At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.
by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 6, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's actually $315M
Hendry gave him a bonus on opening day to tank this year, so that we’re bidding against ourselves in November.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
JUMP!!!!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
jiminy! NSFW!
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien
Everything's covered up
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
can u move the jump sign down some.
Thanks lol
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Mobile friendly jump
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
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