Chicago Cubs vs. San Francisco Giants Preview, Friday 5/13, 1:20 CT: Triskaidekaphobia
by Al Yellon on May 13, 2011 11:00 AM CDT
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The Giants owe the Cubs a big fat thank you for their World Series championship.
Why is this? Because in the final two weeks of the 2010 regular season, the Giants came into Wrigley Field and shut out a hot Cubs team twice (yes, "hot" -- the Cubs had won eight of their last nine and six in a row coming into that homestand on September 21). Then, the Cubs went into San Diego the following week and defeated the Padres three out of four, pretty much knocking the Padres out of playoff contention.
You're welcome, San Francisco. Now could you return the favor this weekend?
Oh, and that big word at the end of the headline? It means (loosely) "fear of the number 13". Today is Friday the 13th. Maybe that'll bring some luck to the Cubs. They'll need it against a Giants team that is riding a six-game winning streak and has allowed only 10 runs in the six games. Just for the record, the last time the Cubs won a game on Friday the 13th (a date that falls quite infrequently during the baseball season) was almost four years ago, when they defeated the Astros at Wrigley Field on Friday, June 13, 2007. (There was no Cubs game on a Friday the 13th in 2008 or 2009 and they lost to the Cardinals 6-3 on Friday, August 13, 2010.)
Cubs lineup:
Castro ss, Barney 2b, Byrd cf, Baker 3b, Soriano lf, Johnson rf, Pena 1b, Hill c, Dempster p
Hill? I don't get it.
Giants lineup:
Torres cf, Sanchez 2b, Huff 1b, Posey c, Schierholtz rf, Ross lf, Fontenot ss, Tejada 3b, Bumgarner p
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Today's pitching matchup happened as one of those three games at Wrigley Field last September; it was Madison Bumgarner's first ever start against the Cubs. Bumgarner threw seven shutout innings. Dempster... didn't. He gave up nine runs in less than two innings. That isn't good. Let's hope for a reversal today; in hindsight, maybe that was a precursor of Dempster's struggles this season. Here's the boxscore from that game, if you can stand it.
The biggest problem for Dempster this year has been allowing home runs -- 10 of them in only 45 innings. Fortunately, the Giants are having almost as much trouble hitting them as the Cubs are -- they've hit 29 as a team (the Cubs have 28) and the team leader is Pat Burrell with five (tied with Pablo Sandoval, who is on the DL).
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Hill
I would assume he’s starting for the “veteran mojo” angle, in hopes of getting Dempster back on track.
At least we have a feared 3-4 hitter combo today.
I was getting worried for a second….
Fourth
But I’m on a plane 35,000 feet in the air
"All of us are in the gutter...some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde
It would be cooler if you were on a horse
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
The Giants owe the Cubs a big fat thank you for their World Series championship.
And Byrd helped the NL win the AS Game, giving the Giants home field advantange for the WS.
by shadyglennbeckert on May 13, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions
so does that mean
we actually won the WS last year???
Can someone just start telling the players that so they can relax…
maybe double whiskey shots before every game and during the 7th inning stretch
by hansman1982 on May 13, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
That usually works for me...
…double whiskey shots and a chew towel for the nerves. Like Jerry Tarkanian.
by shadyglennbeckert on May 13, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
In a very broad sense
America won the World Series last year.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 13, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
America! F*ck yeah!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I know Pena has struggled ..
but I’d much rather see him 3rd than Byrd at this point.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
Lefty on the mound
Pena’s not in a bad spot… everyone else though…
Time to put some faith into Quade’s hat-pickin’ powers.
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Just North of Wrigley Field
by jameslcrockett on May 13, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's hoping Castro
causes the other teams to have some triskaidekaphobia.
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on May 13, 2011 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec for awesomeness
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 13, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
We are 3-1 in games Hill starts so far...
Just sayin’
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on May 13, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
I love him so much...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
The only reason I can see them starting Koyie....
Is because Castillo looked completely clueless at the plate yesterday.
What the hell difference does that make?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe not reading so much into this,
but castillo did go against the pitcher of the year thus far…
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola
This is just a guess
But I think part of Coleman’s struggles was a game not well called, which I’m guessing is something Koyie does pretty well.
We'll all miss you Ron.
Coleman's problem is he doesn't have the talent to get squeezed like he was yesterday.
Nothing to do with how the game was called, most likely.
He is strugglign to throw strikes
and when he does, hitters just tattoo him. He’s not a major league pitcher right now.
Yea, his location has to be spot on to be effective
And right now it’s not. He’s shown he can a couple times, just gotta be more consistent. It will be interesting to see how Doug Davis does, and then when Randy is back, which is sent down.
We'll all miss you Ron.
I didn't think he was so bad
He wasn’t getting any calls on the borders, and then he had to come in. When he has to come in, he gets hammered. That’s going to happen whether his stuff is on or not.
by Josh Timmers on May 13, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Bumgarner looks so happy in that photo....and confident!
Every day I look at this lineup I’m fooled thinking OK, top of the lineup is going to get on, then I look in the middle and remember it will be pure luck if we get hits in the 3-4 spot.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
Anyone have any confirmation
that JH was fired???
My phone has been blowing up with people saying they’ve heard/read this.
Because journalism jobs are given to pretty faces and/or people with connections.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
talk show jobs
are given to those who can get listeners and page clicks – saying something like that gets page clicks
by hansman1982 on May 13, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
how could he argue against Drose?
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola
more proof that ESPN
is the stoopidist broadcasting organization EVER
I began to come around to this when Spring Training was starting and Mike and Mike were doing a special on NFL teams and their projections on how each was going to do…
by hansman1982 on May 13, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
FOX News would like to see you in its office right away.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
...
I get all my news from THIS Fox News site.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I know it was wrong, but...
LMFAO.
There’s something wrong with you, swl…in a good way.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Yeah my friend texted me the same thing
Was looking all over online for confirmation.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
When all else fails social media my friend
A Twitter search gets you instant news
We'll all miss you Ron.
for a few minutes of laughter...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hendry
Donuts? SWL, was that you?
"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson
One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola
::doe eyes::
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and people on Twitter are saying that Cowherd speculated that because of the hug
We'll all miss you Ron.
then he is an idiot
the only way he would get fired for that is if the Cardinals/MLB were going to investigate for tampering
by hansman1982 on May 13, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Hilarious headline: GM fired for giving hug.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Hug moar Cardz!
GETITDONEJIM!!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Seems kind of silly to think that the backup catcher wouldn't get the majority of the starts
When the starting catcher goes down.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
It's a good opportunity
… to see what your minor league guy can do.
Check out Chicago sports coverage at SB Nation Chicago
Thanks I saw what he could do yesterday
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Wondering when I'm gonna see Castro batting 9th this year.
He’s been just about everywhere else.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
when the cubs trade Castro to the Cards
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 13, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill is starting?
Hmmm, didn’t Nunya say this is the exact thing that would happen?
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 13, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
His comment spurred an argument though
which is the only reason why I bring it up. I also believe someone else said that wouldn’t be the case…not sure who though…
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 13, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually honestly can't remember who
and I’m too lazy to look.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 13, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
lol don't worry
I wasn’t motivated enough to go read an argument.
I told him let's just wait and see and not lose our head (like he so often does)
We’re still only 2 days into the “Castillo Era”. Hill has one day now, Castillo has one. I’m willing to see what happens. I won’t be surprised either way it goes.
We'll all miss you Ron.
Considering the comments from Quade
regarding Beef getting the start because he caught for Casey in the minors, kinda leads me to believe that we’ll be seeing more Hill than Beef. Honestly though, who the hell knows.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 13, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, I don't know
I’d like to see Castillo play, but on the other hand, Koyie is the backup, so technically, he should get more starts. I’m willing to see what happens, and I doubt no matter who is catching between those two it will make a huge difference.
We'll all miss you Ron.
Actually
Hill shouldn’t get more starts because he’s quite possibly the worst player at this level. Just because he’s had A single or A double or A triple doesn’t me he should be getting the nod constantly. And if he is, then the pitcher really should bat ahead of him. Only if Beef catches for a few starts and shows he has no clue what pitches to call for should Hill get more starts.
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 13, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, that's why I said "technically"
your backup would get more starts. I’d like to see Beef and see what he can do as well. I’m sure Beef will definitely catch any Doug Davis and Casey Coleman starts that may be left. And that’s probably why Koyie is starting today, Beef caught yesterday, and he’s definitely catching tomorrow (I would guess) so he gets a break today since it’s sort of a platoon.
We'll all miss you Ron.
You may not like him
but the pitchers love him and I have no problem with him getting a majority of the starts. Beef bats better but I am not convinced he is a better catcher.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know the pitchers liked him
I am a catcher as well, and that is a very underrated aspect, that is important if the pitchers like him.
We'll all miss you Ron.
Castillo started the season on the DL
and the injury with his hand won’t go away all year. His hitting numbers are seriously down this year. But I’m still looking for evidence that the pitchers liking Hill makes him more valuable as a starter. I’m sure if asked, all the pitchers would say they liked Castillo also.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
My only phobia is that Cubs might lose, so
GO CUBS
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on May 13, 2011 11:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hill/Castillo
Both of them look clueless and our best bet is Soto comes back ASAP :)
by DebT on May 13, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
It's funny how Friday the 13th
always falls on a Friday. Just one of those unexplainable coincidences I guess.
Quade just baffles the hell outta me. I could see using a Hill/Beef platoon, but, being Bumgarner is a lefty…well, I don’t get it. Quade is losing alot of the support he had when he got this job. His decisions are questionable to say the least.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Sugar coat it all you want...
…there’s NO reason Hill plays before Beef against a LH pitcher. Maybe it works the other way… If this team had a good manager, it probably would work out alot better.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Managers decisions just don't matter that much. You can pretend they do all you want.
The bottom line is the players need to get the job done. If a manager is given a below average roster, guess what, the team is going to be below average. Quade is not the problem.
If the players he was using would actually get the job done it would be different.
Managers just dont matter that much. Period.
He's not THE problem...
but he’s assuredly A problem.
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Just North of Wrigley Field
by jameslcrockett on May 13, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Flying in to Chicago today from Portland Oregon
Going to the Saturday & Sunday game (weather permitting). Hope to meet a BCBer or two.
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on May 13, 2011 12:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Where are you sitting?
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Saturday section 212
Sunday in my brothers seats behind the Cubs on deck circle.
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on May 13, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Saturday section 212
Sunday in my brothers seats behind the Cubs on deck circle.
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on May 13, 2011 12:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
prepare for
some relatively piss-poor beer compared with PDX.
HUB IPA rules
by sanshokubento on May 13, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You had me until you endorsed an IPA
Never trust a beer you can see through!
only porters, stouts, and barleywines (shudder) for you?
by sanshokubento on May 13, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
HUB anything rules!
Goose island has some great brews too!
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on May 13, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mmm...Matilda
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Green Line from Goose Island
is really good. Others, not so much for my tastes.
Two favorite brewpubs in PDX area are HUB and Double Mountain (Hood River – close enough). Rogue is up there too.
If you’re into that sort of thing you definitely should check out Revolution Brewing in Logan Square (Blue Line – California stop).
by sanshokubento on May 13, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry - I mean section 215.
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on May 13, 2011 1:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's to hoping Dempster doesn't make the SF lineup look like first ballot HoF'ers.
Let’s see a 5-1 victory today Cubbies.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Solid line-up for the Cards, though.
Jaime Garcia is leading the NL in batting average; and don’t forget Tyler Greene is making a run for the triple crown.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
I like your swagger.
I’ll allow one solo shot to Baby Ruth for Dumpster, other than that no eff’ing around!
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Not shocking at all that Hill is starting.....
Thats Essian for you…..
Castillo was sent to the minors because he would not get the playing time…..fine….Now he can and we still see Hill…..We were lied to AGAIN……
Tom Ricketts approves of all this crap.
Which member of the Cubs management team specifically said that Beef was going to Iowa after ST so he could get PT?
Be specific. I want citations. Dates. Names. Exact quotes.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I guess you think Hill beat out Castillo for the job?
All of the minor league catchers beat out Hill….
You said we were lied to
I want to know who was lying and what their exact words were.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Castillo will start tomorrow, book it. That will be Castillo's second start in the 3 days he's been here
We'll all miss you Ron.
4 days
We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams
by Fat Punk Kicker on May 13, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
This won't be on WGN
So the Cubs will win.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.
I have to watch
Kuiper and Krukow call the game today. That’s actually not a bad thing.
I just hope they show Krukow singing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame.” They’re promising it will be awful.
by Josh Timmers on May 13, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Parthenocissus tricuspidataphobia
Loosely translated, fear of Boston ivy, as shown in the photo above.
Beat the Midgets Jump
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
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