Trade Target: David Wright?
Ladies and gentlemen almost a decade ago the Chicago Cubs traded for a young 3B down on his luck/game. He wasn't fielding the ball well, and was never considered a great glove at third anyway. He wasn't hitting as well as he had done at a younger age, and many had ducked out on this young 3B. Upon arrival that young 3B turned his career around and became one of the better 3B in baseball for a 5 or so year stretch.
There is now another 3B who needs to be freed from the restraints of a broken franchise. He is a little older than Aramis was when the Cubs traded for him, but at 28 isn't so old that 5-6 years old good baseball can't be ahead. I know I said differently about 28 year old Geovany Soto in another thread, but a catcher who hasn't played 110 games in a season since '08 is a different story. Wright's got plenty of baseball at 3B left, and just a couple of years ago was one of the best players in baseball.
Is he a worthy target to fill one of the big corner infield spots for a contending run? Is there hope for him to find his game again?
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Well, sure I'd love to have David Wright.
And yes, the Mets might deal him. But what would you have to give up for him?
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Anyone besides Brett Jackson.
McNutt, Vitters, Flaherty?
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And the Mets would do this why, exactly?
by Shanghai Badger on May 15, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Your talking about a #2, #5 (top prospect)
and a prospect who’s stock is rising (Flaherty). And I’m aware that would have to be a start.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
Those ratings are all relative, though.
Vitters is getting smacked around at AA. I don’t see his trade value as very much at all at the moment, and I don’t know that he’d be the #5 prospect in very many systems.
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I understand.
But Vitters still has a very high ceiling.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
If he had been an international signing, none of us would know who he is.
I realize that scouts love many things about his swing, but it has yet to transfer into success as a pro. There is also a lot of selection bias involved when fans and scouts know they are looking at the #3 overall pick. We are still inclined to expect greatness, because that’s where we started.
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If he was an international signing...
relative to the prospect he was as an American HS kid…then he’d be a big time signing that hasn’t lived up to the hype yet.
We would know who he is still, and we’d still be mostly disappointed. That said, he’d still get alot of talk of his tools and potential, which is what he’ll get here until he’s traded or w/e happens.
No to Wright.
Wright averaged 115 strikeouts in his first 4x seasons. The last two years he’s averaged 151, including a career-high 161 last year. This year he’s on pace for 180 strikeouts. This defense is also slipping badly.
Some of Wright’s regression might be attributable to back problems. Still, I’d keep the prospects and spend the $14M+ elsewhere..
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wright
would be a great addition considering aramis is just about done as a cub. will it happen??i doubt it.
Oh, and the reason the Cubs got Ramirez....
… was a total salary dump by the Pirates.
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I doubt it.
I don’t think Bud will let that happen. He already has his paws all over both the Dodgers and the Mets; just handling them in different ways. While he may let the Dodgers dismantle just to showcase McCourt’s ineptness for all to see (and make it that much easier for one of his cronies to come in and take ownership in a sweetheart deal), he’s already demonstrated his authority over the Mets by insisting on additional owners/investors.
Seems like there’s plenty of folks in NY with plenty of money willing to own a chunk of the Mets even if only a minority stake. So I can’t see any salary dumping here. Certainly not where there’s some baseball talent involved a la Wright. Getting rid of K-Rod would be a different story.
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You would think
But very few people show up at games. The park is losing money….it’s just a losing scenario. Plus they got involved with the Madoff scandal which hurts anyone interested in investing a dime into the organization.
since MLB is running LAD and NYM
can they make trades to each other, or would that be to close to insider trading with a conflict of interest?
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by RiskyBusiness on May 15, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
dont know why i thought they were, my bad
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I agree, there won't be a major sell-off
Apparently, the difference between NY and Pittsburgh is lost on some. Yes, K-Rod may be gone, and maybe even Reyes, but a clean out much past that won’t happen. The Mets need their stars and trading Wright doesn’t make sense.
Similarly, I think that LA isn’t going to change THAT much. However, I wonder about Matt Kemp. Kemp is under LA control this season and next, but, by all accounts, he may break the bank before the 2013 season. Whether LA will be in the position to offer a “break the bank” contract then remains to be seen.
by jerry morales rules on May 16, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
David Wright would be a perfect fit in chicago
Upgrade to 3B and 1B next year will have the team contend for years to come.
That's my thinking...
the corner infield spots being stable are a huge step in stabilizing the team…plus this time they have a SS too? And possibly a CF? F yeah…just don’t trade Jackson for Wright, duh.
Might have to give up Matt Szczur though.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
I'd get over it.
I hear Reggie Golden is an impressive young hitter.
Trade for Wright and sign Prince Fielder to man the corners would have the Cubs right back in contention, IMHO.....
The package for Wright would be high, depending on how much salary relief the Mets give the Cubs. If the Cubs take all of the contract something like McNutt, Flaherty, Sczur (sp?), and probably a couple of other prospects. If the Mets provide the Cubs with some salary relief, the Cubs have to probably part with at least 3 top 10 prospects and 2 addition 10-20 rated prospects. If the Cubs have a good draft, it might be alright to gut the system.
I do like the idea of trading for Wright and signing Fielder, either one alone wouldn’t make much of a difference, but both together would put the Cubs near the top of the NL Central…….
i would welcome those two as corner infield happily
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Worst possible senario
Aside from Wright’s back problems he’s been declining both offensively and defensively for a couple years. Fielder’s morbid obesity will undermine his productivity much sooner than the average player. These would be two horrible acquisitions hence I’m 100% confident Hendry is targeting both with multi-year, backloaded contracts.
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Those are exactly what I'm hoping for in 2012
And honestly it doesn’t seem to be a pipe dream this time around.
If the Brewers aren't contending
I see them trading Fielder to someone outside the division in a possible sign & trade. I don’t see them just letting him go at the end of the season to a team within the division. If they are in contention however, they will keep him for the stretch run.
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by cub in louies nest on May 15, 2011 6:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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by jesus christos on May 15, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Do the Cubs have the payroll flexibility to do this?
I mean, I know that they could handle Wright’s salary on its own, but Wright plus Pujols/Fielder seems unlikely. And Wright, on his own, doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who could bring in a bunch of fans.
I actually wouldn’t mind the Cubs going after Ian Stewart. He’s 26, he hits lefty AND he hit 25 HRs in 2009. He’s been really bad this year, but this could be a rare opportunity for the Cubs to buy low on somebody with big upside. I wouldn’t give up much for him, realize.
I wonder if the Rockies might be interested in some bullpen help, and consider somebody like Shark …
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by elgato on May 15, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You're really on this Stewart kick, aren't you?
He hasn’t been any good in two years. Yes, he’s still young, but…
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I'm just tired ...
of the Cubs buying high all the time, Al. Notice I said I wouldn’t give up much for him.
Look what the Giants did last year: They took some castoffs and built enough of an offense to win the WS. The last time the Cubs did successfully — Jim Edmonds — you opposed getting him at first. Buying low can work sometimes, and I’d submit that the Cubs are in a season where they can experiment.
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Fair enough.
However, Stewart doesn’t really fill a need on this team right now. Also, he doesn’t have the track record that Edmonds did.
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I'm sorry ...
but you can’t use the “track record” argument for Edmonds when you opposed his signing in 2008 because he was “washed up.”
And we might have a BIG need at third base next year.
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Yes, we might.
To which I say, “Ian Stewart isn’t the answer.”
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Cubs also bought relatively low on Jeff Baker.
Actually I don’t even remember what they gave up for him.
He will forever be a platoon player, but probably the best one you can find. If he could just hit righties somewhat…
Al Alburquerque
Pitching pretty well for Detroit, although the Rockies released him.
by Josh Timmers on May 15, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I would offer Dewitt for Stewart
and maybe an exchange of minor league relievers to even it out. A true change of scenery trade.
No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.
Stewart might fill a year...
and hit some HRs, but otherwise he’s pretty meh as a hitter.
Again.
I’m not saying Ian Stewart is Brooks Robinson. I’m saying that he might be a good guy to take a flyer on if the price isn’t too high.
Other organizations do this ALL THE TIME, but the Cubs too often spend $3 million on Xavier Nady. If Stewart could be had cheaply, he might be the kind of acquisition that we look back on in five years as a key turning point for the Cubs.
Or, he might turn out to be terrible. But who the F cares if he doesn’t cost much?
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3 million on Nady isn't too bad.
I’m not anti-Stewart if he came cheap. I just don’t think he’d do anything. It’d be the equivalent of picking up Baker…another former top Rockie’s prospect who just doesn’t hit like he was hyped to.
I also think the Cubs have done a decent job at buying low on guys…that’s how they got Ramirez and half of the 2B platoon. I guess even Byrd and Lee in their own ways.
Lee and Ramirez were acquired seven years ago.
And $3 million for Nady was a complete waste. Byrd is being paid appropriately, but I’d hardly call him a bargain.
The analogy to Baker is a good one, but Stewart could pan out — and he has far more power than Baker.
And what’s this “half of the 2B platoon” business? Barney is essentially playing every day.
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The power...
is a good point.
Iunno…Stewart instantly falls into the “meh” category for me, but like you say he is 26, left handed, has some power, and can play 3B…it couldn’t hurt unless it did.
Actually, Baker is hitting pretty well.
If used in the proper role, he can be a useful player.
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And so might Stewart.
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This is the argument I kept making about Kila Ka'aihue.
It appears I was wrong. He can’t hit major league pitching.
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Bad comp...
Stewart’s had 3 average to above average seasons in the majors…his past 3 wOBAs have been .347, .337, and .337.
I probably have the ‘05 BA prospect handbook sitting around. He was the #1 prospect in their system then, and overall pretty highly touted. He’s also a year or two younger than Kila.
With around $60M coming off the books, the Cubs should be able to absorb the salary of Wright and sign Fielder
and still have some money left over for arb raises and/or other FAs, I don’t think Wright/Pujols would work financially though…..
Hmmm. I could see that happening.
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Signing Fielder scares the hell out of me
he is one big contract away from eating his way out of the league. He seems like the kind of guy who would get his long term guaranteed deal and just let himself go to the point of being one huge ball of sucky first baseman. I would rather give Pujols more money and know the guy is going to bust his ass for you day in and day out.
Trade me right f@#$ing now!
by Mister Zero on May 16, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally someone with common sense
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It might be just me...
but I don’t see the Mets giving up both Reyes and Wright, and it appears that Reyes will be on the move.
Also, speaking to another thread, it isn’t going to be easy to get rid of A-Ram this year or next.
As far as salary goes, I don’t know if management would be eager to have Wright, Soriano, and Pujols/Fielder all on the same payroll. Our pitching rotation isn’t all that cheap either.
Given the Posada situation in NY....
… and that he may retire… could the Cubs interest the Yankees in a return of Soriano to the Bronx?
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I think...
they might be more interested in A-Ram. Chavez broke his toe, so A-Ram could DH and provide the infield depth the Yanks lost when Chavez went down.
I’m sure everyone would love to see Soriano (and hopefully most of his contract) ship out of here, but I think it’s a stretch for the Yankees to take on that massive contract given Soriano’s performance. I do think it’d be a good fit for Soriano; a place where he wouldn’t be depended on to produce on a daily basis. His all-or-nothing batting approach could provide the Yanks with sporadic lifts from their 6/7/8 hitter. I just don’t see it happening.
They were very happy to ditch him back in 2003 after his 3rd straight playoff calamity.
The Yanks judged Soriano and found him wanting. I don’t think they’re in the business of acquring guys who they’ve deemed to be fundamentally poor or playoff choke artists.
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Best thing for us would be Soriano among the leaders in HR at the AS Break
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Doesn't seem likely
that’s the 1st time I’ve ever seen you play GM with Sori. .270 OBP wearing thin?
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by SouthWabashSoul on May 15, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't it's stats that prevent most of us from playing GM with Sori...
it’s definitely the contract.
I think they conclusively decided that Soriano was NAHT a TRUE YANKEE like 8 years ago.
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Not so much that as...
they thought he wouldn’t develop as a hitter. Also, they were getting this guy Alex Rodriguez in return.
By develop as a hitter I mean...
improve his plate discipline. Soriano fed on fastballs as a leadoff hitter for them early in the decade, but they didn’t fool themselves into thinking he was a legit leadoff guy for the future…plus he couldn’t find a position…plus they were bringing in this guy named Cano.
I think how much success the Yankees had post-Soriano is what always kind of turn me off from him. You blinked and they had gotten the games best player for him and then brought up one of their more hyped hitting prospects to replace him. Blinked again and that player they traded him for has 600+ HRs in his career and the prospect who replaced him is a perennial batting and MVP candidate.
The Yankees are too smart for that.
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I think you're right
I think David Wright is probably the only Met who isn’t available for trade.
And I’m sure we’d have to part with Brett Jackson or Andrew Cashner to get him if he was.
I’d love Wright, but I doubt he’s available.
by Josh Timmers on May 15, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone is available
This has been confirmed since Spring Training. I don’t think the Mets want to part with their biggest draw but at the same time, they need to save money any way humanely possible.
Anyone is available for a price
The price for Wright is very high. The price for other talent on that team is less so. If you want to blow the Mets away with a proposal, I’m sure they’re interested.
They are not Pittsburgh. They do not have the pressures to have a minuscule payroll the way that small market teams would. The Mets still need high priced talent to attract new owners.
by jerry morales rules on May 16, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I'm alright with the
“not signing lots of expensive FA contracts and handcuffing this team for the future” notion.
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The comparison between Wright and Ramirez is weak
Ramirez was never a star before coming to Chicago. He was a high potential, low production kind of guy. Wright has had terrific seasons in the past, and has earned a place as one of the game’s bright stars. The Mets might deal him, but if so, Chicago won’t be the only team that wants him, and there’ll be a market for him not unlike the market that would exist if he was a free agent.
And besides, at 28, he’s 5 years older than A-Ram was when he came here, and there’s reason to believe that if there’s something wrong with him, it might never get made right. I don’t think that’s the most likely outcome, but its one you have to consider.
Bottom line – you’re not getting him for the equivalent of Bobby Hill and other spare parts like we did Ramirez. And even if you did, he’d have upside for 4-5 years at best. Not the decade-long solution A-Ram proved to be.
Whoa that's pessimistic...
Anyway…ARam put up this season in Pittsburgh at age 23:
.300/.350/.536/.886/40 2B/34 HR/112 RBIs
And he was a pretty big prospect for the Pirates iIRC.
Agreed that the Mets’ new FO will ask for an arm and a leg.
only pessimistic when he disagrees with you
if they can get Wright relatively cheaply, sure
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by lookingdeadred on May 15, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I had mentioned this about two weeks ago.
And it would be lovely to have a Wright/Fielder or Pujols/Wright 3-4 combo.
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Well, if you think about it...
Cubs will have enough cash coming off the books to sign a big FA.
Cubs also have enough in the minors to pull off one more big trade.
So if you wanted to roll the dice and, to borrow a phrase from the south side, “go all in”, those combos you’re dreaming about are very possible. I just don’t see current ownership being the sort to roll the dice like that. Big FA or big trade – sure (probably the former). But not both.
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Sadly, I agree.
It’s too logical of an approach. It would be nice to get either Fielder or Pujols, but this team needs more than one bat. In an ideal world, we need about three.
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Wright or Justin Upton
if you could have a superstud young star at a position, would you take the RF or the 3B? Between these two individuals?
3B, every time.
OF are a dime a dozen.
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He is good.
But we hope he becomes very good. His OPS in the last two season has been .799 and .793.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
*have been
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
And I stand corrected.
.793 is his OPS so far this year.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
Well technically...his last two full seasons...
have been .899 and last year’s .799.
And his career wOBA is .355. Guy’s going to be a stud.
Wright - but only if he can learn how to fling his helmet after striking out.
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Between those two exact players? Upton. 5 years younger, cheaper, not injured, massively talented.
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Rather take a chance on Upton
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by lookingdeadred on May 16, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
doubt the mets will trade wright and reyes
citi field would be even more empty
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by jesus christos on May 15, 2011 12:47 PM CDT reply actions
This season could turn out so many ways
But contention is still a possibility, and trading for David Wright makes us contenders. I would trade anyone other than Castro and Barney.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 15, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
I would drive Barney to the airport
at 3 AM in the morning if it meant getting Wright.
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make sure you stop by the Weiner Circle first.
might as well give the rook a good meal before he leaves
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Sober too...
so he makes it safe and the Mets can’t call takebacks.
Maybe for a package around Soto and Barney
i’d pull the trigger. But if im the cubs i hold on to flaherty, mcnutt, and bjackson. Maybe soto, barney, vitters, and a low level high ceiling arm or j jackson.
Your going to have to give up at least 2 top prospects.
So that means McNutt or Jackson and someone else with a high ceiling.
"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"
After Jackson...
I’m not sure there’s anyone untradeable in the system, and I’d give up Jackson for an ace or a big bat.
I don’t consider Flaherty or McNutt untradeable.
My problem with Wright is that the Mets are even less likely to trade him than the DBacks are to trade Upton. Or so it seems.
The Wright Trade:
Aka “What I’d offer”…
Brett Jackson
Josh V itters
Jay Jackson
Ryan Flaherty
Arm or two
Too much? Too little? Win? Loss?
Give the arms some names...
Jeff Stevens and Brett Wallach.
Doubt they would have any intrest in Stevens.
I would love if they could center a deal around McNutt instead of BJax
Me too...me too.
Jackson and LeMahieu…I have no desire as arm chair GM to trade either one.
I would consider trading DJ if Barney could keep this up all season.
But in that situation, in may not be a bad idea to sell high on Barney and let Lemahieu take over second base.
Cubs need to spend some $$$ on pitching, too
Can’t go into another season with no dependable SP depth….need to sign a Gorzolanny type….dempster isn’t getting any younger.
If they sign Fielder (more likely than Pujols?) I could see them going cheap at 3B with a Baker/Dewitt platoon or maybe taking a flier on another guy….I don’t like idea of expensive Wright (whose production drop may be in part due to new park In NY) and big contract 1B. They’ll just be boxing themselves in for future as they did with Soriano and Fulkudome.
Field/Pujols + Wright
would be a significantly better duo than Soriano/Fukudome at the time of their signing.
Baker/DeWitt
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Baker/DeWitt platoon for a yr at 3B. Supposedly , DeWitt is much more proficient w the glove at 3B, rather than 2B. Quite frankly, there is nothing available at that position in FA and I think Aram is a goner for sure- can’t hack it with glove there any more & option is too expensive .
by Mmurton on May 15, 2011 3:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wright is right for Chicago
He can hit, field, and has a good on-field presence to him. He is also a team leader. That’s something you won’t get from Fielder.
As much as it would be a dream to have Pujols or Fielder playing 1B, Wright at 3B next year seems like a better fit for the team.
"He can field"
Well, I guess.
I mean, there’s no value assessment there. Technically, Adam Dunn can field, too. And now that he’s a 1B/DH, I don’t think he’s working on his third consecutive negative 10+ UZR season like Wright is.
-10.0 in 2009
-10.6 in 2010
already -5.1 in 2011 (!!!)
Whether it’s age or injury, we’re talking about one of the worst fielders in MLB regardless of position.
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Gee that sounds just like ARam....HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wright would be so much better for the Cubs than ARam…..
Apparently Wright has a stress fracture in his lower back.
No surgery expected, but you can never be too careful with these things.
story here
Which leaves Justin Upton as...
the Last Man Standing for this exercise in futility?
At this point....
I prefer waiting on the potential payouts on Matt Szczur, Trey McNutt and especially Brett Jackson to trade for the current version of David Wright. If this was 2007, I would trade anyone in the system for him and hope that Brett Jackson wasn’t included.
If the Cubs are going to decimate their system, I would say it has to be for a true TOR starter and that’s basically it…..unless Ryan Zimmerman (scary now with injuries) or Evan Longoria become available.
There are so many potential free agent starters coming out after next season (for the 2013 season) that you’d imagine a couple might start becoming available for the right offer.
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btw, for those that aren't familiar with whom will be available for 2013
Potentially, mind you…
Jered Weaver, Cole Hamels, Francisco Liriano, John Danks, Shaun Marcum, Chad Billingsley, Jonathan Sanchez, Jeremy Guthrie, Joe Saunders, and Anibal Sanchez are all slated to be free-agents for the first time.
Zack Greinke, Matt Cain, Derek Lowe, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Joe Blanton, Kevin Correia, and Kyle Lohse all have expiring contracts without an option for 2013.
The following pitchers have options for 2013, which if declined would make them free agents for the 2012-13 offseason: Dan Haren, Ervin Santana, Brett Myers, Tim Hudson, Jake Westbrook, Carlos Zambrano, Jorge de la Rosa, Scott Baker, Jake Peavy, Gavin Floyd, Randy Wolf, and Scott Feldman.
All of this courtesy of MLBTR.
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by TheBeerBaron on May 17, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I drool at the possibility of
The Hamels in the rotation. I think he’s going to head towards machine status learning from Halladay and Lee.
Greinke is invited too…as is Billingsley….but it’s the Hamels that would be the diamond/gem/w/e.
Greinke seems to be OK going where the money/chance of success is offered
He asked to be traded away from a KC team that is a sure contender starting next season so it doesn’t look like team loyalty is a big deal to him. That just means he will probably hit free agency. I just wouldn’t put too much pressure on his shoulders alone. His anxiety issues are pretty serious. I’d love to have him around.
Felix Hernandez in 2014!!
Cole Hamels in 2013!!
Wright just hit the DL.
Why don’t you create a trade target post for every star player in the NL Central, and jinx them all.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

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