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Where's Waldo and Where We are Now: Current and Projected Standings

Who is this total stranger posting on Al's blog? Well a long, long time ago I was one of the original "statheads" at BCB. After posting for a while at a couple other blogs, I wrote some pieces for last year's Maple Street Press Cubs Annual. (Still available online!) After that, Al asked me to come on board BCB to post statistical-oriented stories. I agreed... and soon thereafter disappeared. I have a good excuse, though: I was captured by the government. Well, OK. The true story is I've been working at NASA Headquarters the last year, helping run NASA's astrobiology program. As an academic that needs to publish more papers (and doesn't have much time to at work due to administrative duties) my "free time" has been spent on my research. But I recently decided to get back into the blogging game, and I started a new blog about astrobiology and Earth/space sciences. (Check it out!) Starting that up caused the "blog bug" to bite, giving me the motivation to come around here again.... and so here I am. 

One thing I'd like to do here is bring over a regular feature I used to post at Another Cubs Blog: the "Where We Stand Now" post. I'll try to do this on Mondays or Tuesdays, as those are often days without games, and also come at the start of the work week. Follow me below the fold to find out where the Cubs stand as of today...

Star-divide

I hope you're not expecting good news down here. The Cubs are in fifth place in the division, with a 20-25 record. They're 7 games back of the Cardinals, and 4 games back of both the Brewers and the Reds. They're even behind the Pirates, a team that - based on its record - is threatening to break .500 this year.

But records aren't everything when it comes to forecasting the future. Teams can get lucky or unlucky, and that can impact their record. Because you expect luck to be neutral going forward - in other words, despite past trends you shouldn't expect the Cubs to be either lucky or unlucky going forward - we should account for any good/bad luck before making a forecast for the rest of the year. For example, consider two teams. Team A has a 30-17 record, but has been (barely) outscored by the opposition. Team B has a 26-23 record, but has outscored its opponents by a significant margin. It is bad luck that Team B dominated its competition but has the worse record to show for it. Thus, once you account for that luck, Team B has performed better despite having the worse record. While that wouldn't help Team B if the season ended after 49 games, it would bode well for the rest of the season. You'd fully expect Team B to catch and surpass Team A the rest of the year.

That isn't the only "source" of luck. Teams can also be lucky/unlucky in when their hits come. Teams that are much worse with runners in scoring position are usually less "bad" than just "unlucky." I know this is a bit controversial, but the fact is predictions are more accurate if you assume consistent performance across situations. So you should expect a team that's been particularly "bad" in these situations to do better the rest of the way, with "neutral" luck and even performance across various leverage levels. Also, a team may have just been unlucky in terms of its schedule: maybe all its difficult opponents were stacked together at the start of the year. In that case, you'd expect them to do better as the year goes on. There are exceptions to all this, and cases where what appears to be "luck" really is "skill." But not knowing that for sure, we're going to be best in forecasting the future if we essentially assume it's all luck and account for that in our predictions.

So what happens if we account for luck in the standings and projected standings? Unfortuantely, for the Cubs... not much. There is some good news: the Cubs are a tad bit better than they've been playing, and some of the teams in their division are a tad bit worse than they've been playing. The team's record is a little better than it should be based on their runs scored and allowed. So they've been "lucky" in that regard. But they've been even more "unlucky" in that their runs scored and runs allowed are way out of whack with the number of hits, home runs, walks, etc. that they've earned and given up. Finally, they've had a reasonably tough schedule so far. All of this more or less balances out: the Cubs are playing like a ".446 team" but have the record of a ".444 team." Other teams (I'm looking at you, Atlanta and Toronto) have had much larger swings in their fortunes. And while some teams in the division - Pittsburgh and Cincinnati - have been playing above their heads a little, the Cardinals and Brewers should be better going forward than they've been to date.

Considering all this, things look grim for the Cubs. Even if you account for their poor luck in how many runs they've scored/allowed, and for what may be an easier schedule going forward, their chances of making the playoffs are only 3.3%. That's not to say their season is over.... but it's grim. Very grim. There's one glimmer of hope left for this team. There's one "type" of luck that isn't accounted for in these adjusted standings or future projections. And if the Cubs are lucky on that front the rest of the way, they might be able to string together some wins and gain some ground on the division. Any idea on what "type" of luck is missing in these numbers?

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Luck

Maybe Quade wins the lottery, shares the winnings with Hill and they both retire?

Ok, how about health? I would think the Cubs have to be considered very unlucky health-wise this season.

by John916 on May 24, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Ding!

Especially in the rotation. They need a long winning streak, and haven’t had it. Hard to do when you’re down to your 7/8/9 starter. Hopefully they’ll get that right and everyone else stays healthy. That’s about their last hope to make a run at this point.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always read the line "health was the reason we sucked in _____" as a fallacy.

It’s a 162 game sport that spans 8 months. Every team deals with injuries.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 24, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right... For example:

the Cubs’ offense hasn’t exactly been decimated by injuries. Just underperformance. So you’re right.

But the rotation has been devastated, and I think the Cubs might be close to .500 had they been healthy in that department. But in that case, you’re talking about good luck w.r.t. injuries (or lack thereof).

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

If Garza is out then I agree with you. Otherwise you are talking about a completely untested 5th starter and their 4th starter. The Reds have lost time for Cueto, Bailey and Chapman. The Cardinals lost Wainwright. I’d argue that is a bigger loss than Wells and Cashner. The Cardinals also had their closer implode. The Brewers lost Greinke for a time.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 24, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

But I’d argue that the Cubs are suffering from poor 6/7 options. The Reds and Cardinals both have more depth in their rotation past the 5 starter than the Cubs have.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

please tell me realistically how this roster was ever actually going win

The only way I saw was that their pitching (ala Giants last year) was going to be special, Z a CY Young winner, Garza 16-18 wins, Dempster 15-17 wins and Wells with a break out year…but after the first series that was not going to happen.

Offensively Cubs are searching for any consistency possessing little power and station to station baseball.

Offensively Cubs need to find some position for Castro, Barney has forced his way into the lineup while I don’t see anything else….nothing. Ramirez is now a singles hitter where his vaunted RBI guy has wilted.

What is really missing is ownership indignation like Steinbrenner…yes take it out on Quade but the reality is find players who produce. If Ramirez and Soriano can’t play…put them on the bench…bring up youngsters.

.444-.446 will not sell tickets Ricketts either.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on May 24, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love that Cubs fans pine for Steinbrenner without really knowing what a terrible owner he can be

You dont want that with a 130-140MM payroll, I promise you.

This post pretty much articulates – ironically – why you weren’t asked to be the stat guru over Shawn.

Over after the first series? Don’t even bother coming to the ledge next year.

by bdlugz on May 24, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious to see what happend to this team in June/July.

They have a lot of veterans they could try to trade away (by sending money along, too) in exchange for prospects. They also have some decent talent to try out at the MLB level.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Define underperformance

This team is just not very good. In fact, the team BA tells me they are doing better than I expected.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on May 24, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't it be both?

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my opinion

However, the use of the word underperformance has always intrigued me. What say you?

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on May 24, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say it's both.

I don’t think they had a good team to begin with, so they had to have over-performances without the underperformance or injuries. Unfortunately, they’ve had injuries AND underperformance. And so goes their chances.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

At the beginning of the season it was also a fallacy that we had a strong rotation.

I found it deep in #2 pitchers—Dempster, Zambrano, Garza—but no back-end depth and no true ace.

In that light, the pitching staff doesn’t look a whole of a hell lot different than what we’re currently seeing.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 24, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

Although I was worried about pitching depth, I didn’t realize that there literary was no one (in bullpen, minors) that could used in a pinch.

by Madison Cub Fan on May 24, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with the first line...

but I think the difference between Well/Cashner and the guys they’ve been throwing is significant. Perhaps I’m too bullish on Casher, though.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wells*

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is why

 the likes of Dome, Hill, Ramirez, DeWitt, Mateo should not be in uniform next year.
 Try to get Prince or Albert and bring up B. Jaxx, Flaherty and give it a go for next year.

by Grockcubs on May 24, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm a newbie and by no means a sabermagician

But I have found it fascinating how much one can learn from a teams scoring ratio. Also how so many of the terms used in sabermetrics aren’t as intimating as they seem when someone pares down the terms and uses real life examples.

by Madison Cub Fan on May 24, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's useful to start with the questions...

like “have the Cubs really been THIS bad?” (Yes, unfortunately, they have been.)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

glad to see you back, Shawn!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on May 24, 2011 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks! Good to be back. Good bug to get bitten by.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool read and good to see a statistical leaning here....

I hope the organization follows suit in a little bit. Every rich team in baseball has a strong statistical side to it except the Cubs, it seems.

by SenorGato on May 24, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Indeed! They do have a stats guy now, Ari Kaplan.

Don’t know much about him. Wouldn’t be a bad idea for a future piece…

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be an awesome peice.

I wonder who this Kaplan guy is. I’ve always been under the impression that this Cub’s management lacked in the whole statistics area. They’ve improved their player development and scouting enough that I think this area is the next one they should attack.

So quick googled Kaplan:

- He was the first hire Ricketts made. Check this as a reason I think I’m going to like Ricketts and family.

- He really is a "saberist.

- He seems to be touted according to quotes on his website:

http://www.arikaplan.com/baseball.html

I wonder what the big bullpen formulas are.

- He’s from New Jersey, which I guess gives him points.

by SenorGato on May 24, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop While You're Ahead

You sound too rational to be posting here.

by Chodes on May 24, 2011 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Just wait for a game thread...

I’ll have my irrational moments then. ;-)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

We were a marginal 'over .500 team'

if everything broke well out of camp and remained… We broke camp pretty healthy, but since suffered huge injury setbacks. I predicted 75 wins before the season, I hope we can make it to that mark. We’re on pace for 72 wins currently. Nice little article, Shawn.

by JG23 on May 24, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

72 is a good prediction.... wish it were for the Bulls. :(

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap...

I didn’t realize YOU got that job helping in the running of NASA’s astrobiology program. I can stop waiting for my response now, I guess. I need to re-do my resume’.
I enjoyed the post. Looking at it using sabermetrics OR just looking at it as an everyday baseball fan, it’s obvious this team isn’t all that good.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 24, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

nice to read ya again

umm, can the Cubs make it if all their “intangible luck” goes their way???

:)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on May 24, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

If you have luck on your side, a lot is possible.

We’re just unfortunately in a spot where LOTS of luck is needed.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not unusually, no.

Unlucky for sure. But on balance their luck has been about neutral. They’ve had years where they started out really unlucky. If I remember right, the 2007 team was well behind the Brewers at this point in the year but had been really, really unlucky.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

That '07 team was much more talented.

I remember feeling like we were going to catch Milwaukee back then… I don’t have those feelings at all with this team.

by JG23 on May 24, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

are we playing craps, pass line bet?

:)

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on May 24, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

pun intended?

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

SHAWN GOLDMAN IN THE FLESH N BLOOD?

I DON’T BELIEVE IT

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 24, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Or in the keyboards and electrons.

I did see Seth Green in person yesterday, though. Dude is shooort.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

So if there is life in other solar systems, will that discovery tilt the universe enough for the Cubs to win a pennant?

I’m, afraid that for a World Series, the Folks from Afar would have to come here to visit – something like “Childhood’s End.”

by ClarkFan on May 24, 2011 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's some Cub optimism for you:

I think they’ll win a world series title before we find convincing evidence of life on another planet.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends who you ask. I wouldn't consider that convincing.

If you want a definition of that last word I’d say when you have a majority of the people in the field on your side…. and they stay there after the first wave of follow-up research, it’s “convincing.”

Nothing we’ve found to date qualifies as that yet.

Maybe on a slow day (offseason?) I could host an O/T open thread about this stuff…

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe in science. It exists. I apply it. ;-)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of context quote of the day:

“I don’t believe in science.”

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about other life on this planet?

I’ve seen THE WALKING DEAD.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 24, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't really around here for all your pieces in the past

But I really look forward to these. And I like your other blog too, I’m in school for a dual degree in mechanical and aerospace engineering and NASA has always been a place that has interested me for the future.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on May 24, 2011 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks!!

(By the way, you should be marketable with that dual degree. Shouldn’t need luck.)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good piece, Shawn.

Basically, you’re saying the Cubs aren’t that good, and they’re playing about to the level that should be expected, without figuring in luck.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on May 24, 2011 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup, you got it.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lucky or unlucky...

The one place to look at is the starting rotation.

When we are dead last in most (starting) pitching categories (such as ERA, BBs, etc), one can be easily deduce that this year is toast!

The fact that we have no one at AAA to help out (starting rotation) bodes very bad for this year and possibly next year, as well. I won’t even mention AAA relief possibilities!

Of course the RISP woes add to the carnage.

Barring a major miracle like Pena, Soriano, Ramirez or even Dempster reverting to their norms, we are basically a 5th place team in the Central.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on May 24, 2011 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, cl22!

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a question

Based on your research, how much impact does the manager have on the entire season. There has been great debate on the merits of Quade vs. Sandberg. I do believe that Quade has taken a lot of blame that can be attributed to bad luck.

by Chodes on May 24, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

My understanding is not very much.

However, it is potentially related to the above article. I haven’t read up on this in a while (about a year), but some have attributed “luck” to “managerial skill.” It may be that good managers push all the right buttons, and thereby are more effective at turning hits into runs and runs into wins.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could do a piece on this in the future, too.

Bug me if I forget. ;-)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok where's the lowest ledge?

I want to jump now, just don’t want to get hurt!
Darn Realists!

by ThisOldCub18 on May 24, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

"Finally, they've had a reasonably tough schedule so far."

Not sure I follow this statement. The Cubs have played 24 games against team with a better than .500 record, and 23 games against teams with a .500 or worse record.

Seems like the very definition of a neutral schedule, in terms of the quality of opponents.

by azjazzman on May 24, 2011 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

The way this is calculated has to do with the quality of players faced, not teams...

so perhaps (speculation here) they’ve faced more guys at the tops of those rotations? It’s not a huge effect. Most of the “poor luck” is in turning hits into runs.

Would write more, but I gotta bike home to feed the dog.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 24, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

June is much tougher.

Ignoring the June 1st game against the Astros and the one game makeup against the Rockies:

Over .500 (Cards, Reds, Phils, Brewers, Yankees, Giants)
Under .500 (White Sox, Royals)

Only two off-days too so barring rainouts, the 5th starter will be used. There is also one stretch where they will need a pitcher to go on a short rest or find a 6th starter.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 24, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome back, Shawn! We missed you.

Love your new blog, too. Very creative and cleverly structured.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on May 24, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, Emelie!

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

This team is perfectly capable of finishing at least second in the central

I think that these upcoming games this week will show us alot. I know that the Cubs can’t stand against teams over .500, but I’d like to see them better their record this week against below average or average teams. If they can’t take 6 or 7 in this homestand then there is not a chance in hell. Theonly bad thing is after this homestand against teams that the Cubs could easily defeat, the next week they are playing St. Louis and LA. But I would like to see a 7-2, 6-3 home stand.

by alabamacubbie on May 24, 2011 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

They need to make a run, AND SOON.

If they can do that, the’ll have a shot at 3rd or maybe 2nd. The playoffs will require a very long string of wins or a few sustained winning streaks.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

WHY IS CHIVAS FILLING MY SCREEN UP WITH RUBBISH

grumble grumble

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 24, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe you care cuz you're not

filled with Chivas? :] (I was never a fan of it, and in my day…there wasn’t much I didn’t drink!)

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 24, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shawn- I really enjoyed your post

(Damn it all…you tried to make sense of this trainwreck!). Happily, you didn’t blow a bunch of smoke where it’d not naturally be… The blue koolaid is a hard-sell around here. I’m glad you got “bitten” again. I’d be interested to see your thoughts on the 2012/2013 Cubs Teams that they’ll be fielding? Once you consider where those farm-players will end up, your stats would come in handy. IMHO, far too often, those “phenoms” amount to little more than hype and wishful thinking (Patterson Pie, Hauffpaur etc.). I’m not convinced our organization in very skilled at evaluating talent (Toss in Fuke as a non-farm mistake along with Sorianos wretched contract).

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 24, 2011 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Projecting prospects is perhaps the most difficult thing to do...

… which is why this is an area where expertise from scouts is particularly valuable. So following Josh77’s posts will give you more insight than I’d be able to give.

That said, there are some things we can project. We can see how good this team will be based on the current contracts, and public statements about the player payroll. Let’s mark that as another thing to cover in a future post.

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Realistic

As each week passes the idea of finishing strong in 2011 becomes harder to envision or think possible. Before it started the Cubs were at best considered a possible surprise division winner.

Winning proportionately more games going forward seems to rely on a few players returning to action soon, performing well and not ending up back on the DL. Two of the players being Wells and Garza. In addition, it isn’t beyond possibility for two other pitchers to have better outings; that being Dempster and Zambrano. The pitching staff has allowed too many runners.

Barricade the road to the DL. Get over the hump to the playing better baseball side, especially pitching better, and then playing the remaining schedule is good. The Cubs have played the Reds five times and the other NL Central teams each three times. So there are plenty of chances left to beat division rivals.

Without replacing the players with better ones, there are possibilities. Hard to see through the fog at this point.

by AboutTheCubs on May 24, 2011 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

The remaining games against NL Central Teams is their best hope...

… if they can stack wins together against division rivals they’ll have a shot at winning it. That’s another way to “luck” into a crown: if you over-perform against division rivals, you stack your wins against the teams you need to lose.

(This isn’t “completely” luck as some managers will shift their rotation with this in mind.)

"You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball." - Albert Einstein

by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 25, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

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