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Things You Could Have Done Instead Of Watching Today's Cubs Game

Gulls share the center field bleachers with a few fans near the end of a game between the Chicago Cubs and the Pittsburgh Pirates at Wrigley Field on May 27, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. The Pirates defeated the Cubs 4-2. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

As a public service, I am presenting this list of things you could have been doing Friday afternoon instead of watching today's 4-2 Cubs loss to the Pirates, in which even the sun got bored and went away around the sixth inning; virtually all of them would have been more fun.

  • Balance your checkbook
  • Have a root canal
  • Have your back waxed (legs waxed if you are female)
  • Skydive naked (presumably, after back/leg waxing)
  • Get a tattoo or body piercing (that would have been less painful, for sure)
  • Write a 25-page paper for a college class you are auditing
  • Take a few garbage bags and clean up all the trash on Chicago's lakefront
  • Sit in traffic on the Kennedy Expressway for three hours and 15 minutes (the length of today's game)

Star-divide

Things are getting worse, seemingly, by the day at Wrigley Field. Friday afternoon, it was once again the defense deserting the Cubs; the inability of Doug Davis to make a simple play on an attempted sacrifice by Ronny Cedeno, followed by an error by Aramis Ramirez on a play he has made literally hundreds of times. That led to two Pirates runs. The other two runs scored because Doug Davis issued three walks and hit a batter in the fourth inning, followed by an infield single.

Everyone at Wrigley Field might as well have left at that point, because there really seemed no chance at all that the Cubs could come back. Kevin Correia -- who leads the National League in wins, somehow, with seven -- shut the Cubs offense down into the eighth inning on only five singles. When he walked Kosuke Fukudome in the eighth to put two runners on base, that was enough for Clint Hurdle. Jose Veras, Correia's replacement, walked the bases loaded.

Up came Ramirez. How many times over the course of Aramis' career have we seen him come up in those situations and drive in a couple of runs with a gap double, or even hit a grand slam?

Not this year. He hit a weak popup to second base and is now 1-for-22 with one RBI in two-out, RISP situations. He has one HR and 17 RBI. He used to be an RBI machine; now he has fewer RBI than ... Ryan Theriot. That's a scary thought, isn't it?

A little bit of credit is due to the Cubs bullpen; Casey Coleman, Jeff Samardzija, Scott Maine and John Grabow kept the Pirates to just three hits in the last 4.1 innings, keeping the game "close", even though the Cubs never actually seemed close to doing anything. Somehow, Alfonso Soriano woke up the very small remnant (maybe 3,000 of the 34,105 announced crowd, of which maybe 24,000 showed up) of people still awake in the cold at Wrigley Field by smacking a two-run homer in the ninth inning, cutting the deficit to 4-2. However, all that did was make Hurdle call on his closer, Joel Hanrahan, who struck out three really overmatched hitters (Tony Campana, Koyie Hill and Blake DeWitt) to end it. Campana got another start after his good performance yesterday; his 0-for-4 might put him back on the bench tomorrow.

I don't know what else to say; this team is maddening, one day putting on a nice offensive show against the Mets, the next, not being able to touch a league-average starter in Correia. This afternoon we learned that on Monday, Rodrigo Lopez will start against the Astros. Honestly, he couldn't really be any worse than Davis or Coleman has been so far this season as a replacement starter. It's truly unfortunate that the Cubs have not been able to find suitable replacements for the injured Randy Wells, Andrew Cashner and now Matt Garza, because according to Len on the WGN telecast today, their replacements have made 16 starts and gone 2-11 with an 8.04 ERA.

With even slightly better performance, the Cubs could have gone .500 in those games and be three or four games over .500 instead of five games under. Sad to say, it didn't happen.

It is what it is. Wells is listed as tomorrow's probable starter at cubs.com. It'd be nice if he could come back and pick up where he left off in spring training.

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It still only May?

That’s all I got.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 27, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

You could have been like me,

teaching class till 3:30 on the last day of school with the cubs on. Would have rather been watching the cubs, no matter how bad it waa.

Why can’t the cubs beat the pirates?

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on May 27, 2011 6:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Why can’t the cubs beat the pirates?

I wish I knew.

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by Al Yellon on May 27, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mentioned how they do better on the road.

When do we play them at PNC?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right before the All-Star break

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by Al Yellon on May 27, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the gap between the Pirates and Cubs isn't as big

as it once was.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unique

sadly this is true. Ramy is looking like D.Lee at every at bat

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or like me,

Waiting for X-Ray results to come back re: the hip bone I landed on when I slipped and fell on a stone floor.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch

I hope you’re ok

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I’m doing better and should be walking normally by this time tomorrow.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to see you in the bleachers this summer.

Hope you are ok.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on May 27, 2011 6:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You will ... June 16 and 19 if you can make it.

Looking forward to meeting you again.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope you are ok

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the Pirates are better then the Cubs.

It’s not that big of a mystery.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 27, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we please just stop playing the Pirates?

I can’t believe I have to say that. And luckily, I was driving in to and starting work. So I only heard through the first 2 innings. Which was more than enough

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2011 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Can we please bad Aramis Ramirez anywhere but 3rd or 4th..

or even sit the guy…

Either he is injured or he no longer gives a crap..I would say he has to be injured in some sort, could be the hamstring as mentioned earlier.

by bazfan1234 on May 27, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny, that those were my thoughts too re: today's game

I was watching it via computer at work, and basically stopped following the game around the 5th inning…and never came back.

This game was really boring.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on May 27, 2011 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

The way this season is going, I'm kind of expecting Wells to blow up...

Not his arm, mind you. All of him. I picture it going like this…

Len – “Wells into the windup, and here’s the first pitch…. just misses for ball one and… oh no…. Wells has exploded.”

Bob – “Crap.”

Len – “Things just not going well for the Cubs here in 2011. Not much more that you can say about that.”

Bob – “Crap.”

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on May 27, 2011 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

That would, at least, be entertaining to watch

This game wasn’t.

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by Al Yellon on May 27, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like the drummers in Spinal Tap...

…there will be but a small, green globule left on the pitching rubber. Or will it be blue?

Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.

by daver on May 28, 2011 9:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Aramis Ramirez looks terrible this year.

His defense has never been great, but it’s a problem when he isn’t producing in either facet. I just don’t know what has happened to him.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Good thing we traded Gorz...

that really came back to bite us in the ass, didn’t it?

"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.

by WindisBlowingOut! on May 27, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

::bangs head on keyboard::

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

pointless is the word i was thinking

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, i cant believe you actually said that

and away we go…

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Gorz when he was with us.

When the Cubs had lost four times when I was in attendance, he was the winning pitcher in the Cubs’ win over Roy Halladay and the Phillies which broke my personal losing streak.

He didn’t really keep the Phillies nailed down—that is almost impossible—but he got enough run support to make his job easier.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

What would Sloth have done?

Light a fire under this team’s ass and get them hitting? We couldn’t overcome a 4 run deficit against the freaking Buccos. That’s on the offense.

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by Craig in South Bend on May 27, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
I don’t know what else to say; this team is maddening, one day putting on a nice offensive show against the Mets, the next, not being able to touch a league-average starter in Correia.

This is exactly what bad teams do.

by EalyEagle on May 27, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

The Last 10 Games: L-W-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L

This team is as mediocre as mediocre can get. Nowhere near great, nowhere near horrible. They are just sitting there taking up space…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at the roster.

Aside from Starlin Castro, Matt Garza, Carlos Marmol .. and to a certain extent Darwin Barney and Carlos Zambrano, the team is below average.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed - there is some legit talent on the roster...

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just trim the fat and get MORE GOOD PLAYERS to play alongside the ones we already have? Why is that so damn hard to accomplish? Wait, don’t answer that…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well hopefully we just have to bite the bullet this year..

And hope Brett Jackson continues to look impressive, and we get a smart FA signing in the offseason.

I’d for one would like to start seeing some veterans moved if we continue to look mediocre, and see some of our propsects get a long look (Flaherty, Dolis, LeMahieu).

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree with you...

but the Cubs have always been about “playing hard” through the end of August, roughly 5-8 games back in the division and waiting to put together a 12 out of 15 streak. But it never comes…

When Rami came up with the bases loaded today, I was 1,000% he wasn’t going to do anything. And I’m sure most of us felt that way…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

with something like $70M coming off the books this off season

we will see a much different team next season

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but will "different" mean BETTER?

Of course adding Pujols or Prince would make the team better. But then what other moves do they make?

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

only one way to find out

and that is to wait and see what happens. we can all sit here and bitch until our ears bleed and we cannot breath, and it wont make a damn difference until we see what they do. I am not saying you are botching, just talking in general.

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know what you mean...

and that’s what makes 2011 so much fun – the fact that we’re all just hanging out and waiting to see what happens. It’s like a movie that’s not that great, but not quite bad enough to get up and walk out on…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

or that God awful one you flip to hoping to fall asleep watching it

and then get into it and cannot sleep, only to kick yourself later as it wasnt that good anyway

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's plenty...

add another power arm to the pen… or two to help Marmol and Marshall.

Bring in two OBP heavy players, even if it means re-signing Fukudome at a significantly reduced salary (Jackson could fill one of these roles).

At least one top of the rotation starter (might need two depending on whether they are able to trade Zambrano at some point this year).

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Just North of Wrigley Field

by jameslcrockett on May 27, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No to Fukudome

the guy is worthless. He has 4 RBI! Who cares about his OBP if he can’t produce anything else?

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on May 28, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Jim making the decisions.....

Why would you expect any different results? He’ll just waste it on hitters past their prime and mediocre pitchers

The best defense is a good offense.....
Dusty Baker is the only manager in the last 100+ years to lead the Cubs to a post season series win....
"Take the hands off the clock, we're gong to be here a while"

by kcjones on May 28, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Until what?

I find myself counting the days until opening day (during the offseason) but I am so bitterly disappointed when they actually play.

by bazfan1234 on May 27, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

til the Hawks start up?

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You got that right!

but also counting until we no longer have the tired, old, non productive, lazy players………..looking at you Rami. Ya I know we’ll have Sori for a few more years, but nothing we can do about that for now.

Maybe Hendry will be gone too ……wishful thinking, but a gal can dream…….LOL

by Swoosie on May 27, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any news...

on if Soto will be back in tomorrow?

by MillsChC on May 27, 2011 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

There is a doubleheader out in Tennessee tonight..

I doubt he will play both games, but one would assume he would return Saturday or at the latest Sunday (Smokies are off).

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the only thing to do

just try to enjoy each game and not think about the last one or the next one, or it’s just too frustrating. However, there is no 14-game losing streak in this team, I think.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 27, 2011 6:23 PM CDT reply actions  

You had to say it didn't you....

:)

The best defense is a good offense.....
Dusty Baker is the only manager in the last 100+ years to lead the Cubs to a post season series win....
"Take the hands off the clock, we're gong to be here a while"

by kcjones on May 28, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

my first game...

…this year and it was a snoozer.

The highlight of the day was meeting Al, and it was all downhill after that.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 27, 2011 6:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

did you get his autograph?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 27, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

he refused to sign.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on May 27, 2011 6:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

rec'd

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

NICE

Greened.

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by eswan9 on May 27, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

does Al have a NTC?

let me check

Al Yellon LF Bleacher STH
8 years (2005-12), plus 2013 SBNation option
• Option vests if traded, or Cubs win less than 70 games in 2012
• selected as BCB manager 2005

Chronologically inept since 2060
Q: Why did Chuck Norris cross the road?
A: Ditka
Ditka's mustache can block a Chuck Norris round house
Ditka's mustache can kill two stones with one bird
It is better to spend money like there's no tomorrow than to spend tonight like there's no money! - Irish toast.
slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

So does that mean you will have a cute lil nickname for him?

And call him garbage?

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

If I signed, the paper or baseball I would have signed would have become less valuable.

Nice to meet you, MPH73 — hope to have further conversations.

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by Al Yellon on May 27, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could have slept in today, yet chose to go to the game.

Horrible decision.

"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts

by bluemagic9 on May 27, 2011 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I went scuba diving instead

didn’t miss much, I see.

"We're young and dumb and ready to go throw strikes." James Russell

by PacificCub on May 27, 2011 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't even watch the game.

I usually don’t watch the games. I follow them later in box scores.

By the way, I’ve been trying to make a fanpost but when I try to publish it says that the body can’t be blank. Can anyone help me with this?

by Nickrj on May 27, 2011 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That's one for SBN tech support

Be prepared to tell them all about your browser.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 27, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ricketts once again acting like a minor league owner

for the second straight day the owner of the Cubs was walking around Wrigley thanking fans for coming. What was once the hottest ticket in Chicago has not become a total and utter joke. A product that is now worth about five to ten bucks from scalpers and you can basically sit anywhere you want in the 200 section with those tickets. Hey, Tom, why not ask the manager why the team didn’t show up today and why the defense is so awful? That’s a lot more important that shaking Jow Blow’s hand and signing autographs.

I have no confidence at all in this guy, he’s 97-113 as owner and the product is totally unaccetpable right now. A team that hasn’t won more than three in a row after 50 games? Are you kidding me?

by MikeJW on May 27, 2011 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Really?

97-113 as an owner? We are doing that? Ricketts has not done a good job in many areas but the teams record was something that he walked into, not something he caused himself.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once he gets some of these contracts off the books.

One thing I want to see is improvements to Wrigley field. Drastic improvements. Not just a bandaid over a gunshot wound.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drastic improvements? With whatever money he has left?

So 7500 people can watch another season down the pipes?

Win first, then renovate.

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on May 27, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't the two coincide?

Is the Triangle building project on hold again?

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ticket prices too high.
Concession prices too high.
Build the triangle building.
Drastic improvements.
Buy the buildings across the street and put up a big screen.
Spend on Pujols.
Cut Silva.
Cut Soriano.
Buyout Ramirez.

etc.

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on May 27, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems pretty straightforward...

when it’s not your money. Like injuries, a lot of these contracts the Cubs will have to play through. Will it be pleasant or easy? Not at all. If the Rickettses were to spend irresponsibly they’d be in similar straights as the Dodgers and Mets. Am I happy with the product we have on the field? Not in the least. But the reality is that the team is saddled with awful contracts and overpaid for the team. That Tom goes out of his way to be a gracious host and owner is great. If it were me, I’d probably would be ready to jump of the Toyota sign!

by bob9550 on May 27, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do realize that Silva's contract was just this year, and the buyout is going to SAVE money right?

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please explain how money is being saved?

or, if you will, “SAVED”?

Come visit me inside Wrigley along the Addison side mezzanine fence straight up from 1st base.

by section229beer on May 27, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the Mariners gave the Cubs money...

to further offset the difference in Bradley and Silva’s contract.

And then there’s the matter of not having to pay Silva’s extensive feeding bills.

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by jameslcrockett on May 27, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

another fat joke. Touche, salesman.

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by section229beer on May 27, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha.

Only if we had Mark Cu….

(beats a dead horse)

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by Unique on May 27, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's on hold.

Ricketts tried to pitch the Triangle Building project as what they’d do “for the community” in exchange for the taxpayers renovating Wrigley for him.

We said no, they withdrew the proposal, nothing is in the pipeline for the Triangle Building.

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by D98 on May 27, 2011 8:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Partially agree...

…but he also could have made some proactive moves to prepare the brain trust for when those contracts are off the books.

I truely think he thought the park would be full regardless (didn’t papa Joe even say he said this?) and he didn’t dedicate enough attention to the onfield product and how to assure he has the best leadership that put the players on the field.

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by MPH73 on May 27, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I repeat.....

You don’t think Jim will just load the book up with more bad contracts?

The best defense is a good offense.....
Dusty Baker is the only manager in the last 100+ years to lead the Cubs to a post season series win....
"Take the hands off the clock, we're gong to be here a while"

by kcjones on May 28, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

next season

when some $70M frees up with contracts coming off the books

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see

how publicly behaving like an ass would make things better.

Nor do I see how behaving like a gracious host makes things worse.

The last thing we need is an owner who behaves like a mouth-breathing sports talk radio host. I hope he’s not happy with the way the team is playing. I also hope he makes his displeasure private.

by Josh Timmers on May 27, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather he spend the time...

figuring out how to fix the organization from top to bottom rather than shaking hands with fans… the few who are showing up. It costs too much to go to the games and the product sucks… a handshake doesn’t fix either.

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by jameslcrockett on May 27, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

Fixing the organization from top to bottom is a reasonable, measurable goal.
He’s probably only at the stadium for the three hours that a ballgame is going on, and he just wastes all of that time being the figurehead of the organization.
With his extensive background in baseball, the time to win is now.
Miserable.

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by section229beer on May 27, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't.....

But it also is leading by example and showing the entire organization how he expects his employees to “behave”….. and hopefully he is seeing what the problems really are

I applaud him for that. You have to be out there to see what is going on. Hiding behind closed doors doesn’t fix anything.

The best defense is a good offense.....
Dusty Baker is the only manager in the last 100+ years to lead the Cubs to a post season series win....
"Take the hands off the clock, we're gong to be here a while"

by kcjones on May 28, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

i wish i could rec this 3 times myself to make it green

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Problem solved

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on May 27, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on May 27, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw I believe Val Capone of the Windy City Rollers would rec this

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure she would.

She and I commiserate on a LOT of things.

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by section229beer on May 27, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That "fan's" behavior was far, far out of line

In addition to being just plain rude, it’s not like Sandberg could have done anything with this roster, either. One advantage of Quade as manager is that he can be fired readily, unlike a team HOF icon.

by ClarkFan on May 28, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

ps- at least one of balls handed out yesterday was autographed by Billy Williams.

I think our owner “gets it”

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by section229beer on May 27, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it is some of the fans who dont get it

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Gets that people like autographed baseballs?

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on May 27, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like an autographed Williams ball

It would look real nice sitting next to my autographed Fergie Jenkins ball.

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by Clutch16 on May 27, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better go "get it"

HAHAHA…hahaha…sigh….

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on May 27, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

For sure, rec'd

I don’t get that at all. And while at this point, I would much rather have Sandberg getting experience as manager of this losing team, in the end it doesn’t matter and Tom certainly doesn’t deserve that kind of behavior. Sometimes fans like that should think that our owners could be like the McCourts or Wilpons of baseball, and realize that we have it pretty good comparatively.

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by Craig in South Bend on May 27, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with this completely....The fan was out of line... I do not have a problem with him being out their watching his team, (He should be),

there are many other things that should be happening that he can control but is not doing.

Also insulting fans, for not having money like him to watch a crappy boring product is downright stupid.

by TJ11 on May 28, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

You and I don't often agree, but on this we do

especially this part:

I can only understand what I see and what I have seen is an organization focused more on marketing than substance, convinced its devoted fan base will put up with most anything and shocked when they don’t.

by EalyEagle on May 28, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

This I agree with, too.

It seems they’re finding out the hard way that you can’t just open the doors to Wrigley Field and sell out every game. It turns out we Cubs fans actually do care about winning, and seeing a good baseball team. This shouldn’t surprise them, because all fans in baseball want to see a winner on the field, but for some reason it does.

I’d much rather see money invested in the product on the field and the Cubs as opposed to the toilets and the Triangle Building.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

As someone who met Ricketts last weekend,

Telling him “FU” for not hiring Sandberg is something I could never do. I sure hope the guy who did this felt terrible afterward. Rec’d.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I were the owner of the Cubs

I would give John McDonough a blank check to come back as president and ask him to save me.

by MikeJW on May 27, 2011 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Now that is too funny

and ridiculous. Do you really think McDonough would come back to the Cubs? Why would he leave the Blackhawks organization pray tell?

Now I know that Hendry and Kenney both need to go but who knows when that will be…….hopefully, sooner than later.

by Swoosie on May 27, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really think McDonough would come back to the Cubs? Why would he leave the Blackhawks organization pray tell?

I wonder. He might relish the challenge. Remember that anyone associated with the Cubs WHEN they finally win will be part of a group remembered forever.

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by Al Yellon on May 28, 2011 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

so you want to bring back the President who

signed Soriano and has cash strapped the Blackhawks (salary cap) much the same way the Cubs got cash strapped also under his watch?

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Stan Kasten working anywhere right now?

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by Clutch16 on May 27, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not in baseball.

Had forgotten about him, and thought he was older than he actually is. He’s 59.

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by Al Yellon on May 28, 2011 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

McDonough...

….was in full “marketing mode” with the Cubs and that is why your baseball people need to be very strong in dealing with that.

Cash strapping the Hawks was certainly more on Tallon, when he didn’t get the offers in on time after 2009 to several players. That cost the club an extra 4-5 mil to sign those guys and meant they couldn’t keep 2 or 3 of the key guys they had to launch after they won the cup. Tallon identified some solid talent, but he also mismanaged the payroll, which is crucial with a hard cap.

I also think McDonough learned from his short stint as Cubs President, and what he learned was to hire a “guru” like a Scotty Bowman to help with important decisions. This is something the Cubs don’t have.

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by MPH73 on May 28, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Notable McD achievements:

Beanie baby day
Extra 2 years of Soriano

That’s the guy you want back?

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by bluemagic9 on May 28, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I watched Rookie of the Year this morning.

Al, do you make any appearance in there as an extra ever? I was looking for you.

by Arbusto on May 27, 2011 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

No, unfortunately.

Although, I was at the game where they filmed the scene where Henry comes into the game for the first time.

I’ve told this story before but will post it again. It was between games of a doubleheader on September 19, 1992 against the Cardinals. The director came out and asked everyone to chant “Henry! Henry! Henry!” while the kid walked in from the bullpen.

So we did that a couple times, they were satisfied, and game 2 started. The Cubs started a middle reliever named Ken Patterson. The Cardinals started pounding him hard and people started chanting “Henry! Henry! Henry!”

One of the funniest moments ever at Wrigley.

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by Al Yellon on May 27, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 27, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Descriptive statistics

45% of the games the Cubs have had at least 1 error, which matches their winning % .
20% of the games the Cubs had 2 or more errors.
14% had 3 or more.
They’ve only been shut out one more time than they’ve had 4-error games (4-3).

For those more familiar, do the defensive metrics bare this out (UZR, etc.)?

The DEFENSE is OFFENSIVE. hahaha. No, it just makes for boring baseball.
I don’t see them turning this clown car around.
  

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by section229beer on May 27, 2011 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Another Stat - 98% of today's game sucked!

The 2% positive goes to Soriano for his HR. BTW, you would have thought by Sori’s reaction that he hit a grand slam to tie the game instead of the 2-run HR that he actually hit.

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 27, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He admired it a bit

But that was a no-doubter. The thing was that it came with 0 outs. Of course, what followed him up to the plate was no match for Hanrahan’s stuff, but cutting the lead in half with no outs is still a fine accomplishment.

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by Clutch16 on May 27, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

the pirates

grooved that one to set up a save situation

by Roman the greek on May 28, 2011 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only have the Cubs not won 3 in a row

The D-Backs have won 9 of 10 and a 1/2 game back in the division. I mean really the D-Backs?
 I have to put some blame in management and Quade/and staff. Why in the world after Sori just jacks a 2 run bomb Campana is not trying to bunt to get on. No one can run like him down first and he doesn’t even attempt a bunt. Campana catches a fly ball in front of the warning track, runner on second and he looks around as the runner is going to third. Would have he got the runner:? Probably not, but his preparation and set up to catch the ball was JR. High level. Mental errors, Physical errors, not knowing the strike zone, station to station baseball it just goes on and on with this team.
 There is a lot of players in there 30’s on this team I get it. They should no how to play the game, well they don’t. Come August I sure hope there is some new young faces.

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Seemed to me that Campana tried to bunt every other time and failed.

Not sure that the 4th time would have been any better. So many people want to see the kids, now you see one. He is a very limited player with even less power than Theriot and Barney.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 27, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is not the kid we wanted to see.

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by SackMan on May 27, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry I've seen enough of him already.

As painful as Soriano and Fukudome are, they should start over Campana. If Campana got any real playing time, he would hit .150 if lucky. See Sam Fuld who is now down to .224.

The outfield will come halfway in with him at bat.

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by rlpete on May 27, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dome can play as long as he is not in a slide....

MAYBE just MAYBE the HR today starts Soriano into another hot streak….

I just like watching a guy try all the time…..We have players everyday who don’t.

by TJ11 on May 27, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand your point.

I just think talent needs to come first.

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by rlpete on May 27, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin could've started in Boston

And would be starting now. But our so called manager mismanaged him into a slump from hell. And then we sent him down.

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by SackMan on May 27, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin wasn't handled well

but I’m still not convinced he is a major regular regular until he improves his plate discipline. He needed to play somewhere in any case to try and improve it.

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by rlpete on May 27, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The kid hit 20 HRs as a rookie... without being an everyday starter.

He made his adjustments last season, as the year went on…. no major slumps that I can remember as pitchers adjusted to him. And, those adjustments must continue for any player to have sustained success. Pitchers and scouting reports will adjust to hitters series by series. All of the hitters in the major leagues have the physical talent to be there. But not everyone has the mental makeup to adjust weekly to the competition and be mentally tough enough to come out of slumps.

I think Colvin has the talent and mental makeup… I don’t think our manager did him any favors by very limited playing time, and sometimes even asking him to pinch hit vs a lefty (yes, I witnessed that).

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by SackMan on May 27, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree on adjustments as the season sent on

First half OPS: .844, Second half: .787. in nearly identical PA’s.

I think pitchers did adjust and he needs to adjust. Players who strikeout a lot and don’t walk, rarely succeed in the long-term. He needs to stop swinging at nearly everything. He has power but he needs to get more to his game.

Regardless, he needs to play somewhere and not sit on the bench.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 27, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats fine

But the one time he really needs to lay down a bunt he doesn’t even make the effort.
 I am not saying Campana is a fixture I believe we understand what he is, 4th or 5th OF. I would like to see Brett Jackson, Ryan Flaherty, DJ LeMahieu and Carpenter in August. I believe they could be part of the future.

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want to see Flaherty playing regularly at 3rd this year.

As opposed to the DeRosa role we have him playing now.

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by SackMan on May 27, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

it won't matter

they all come from a farm system that is devoid of basic fundamentals

by Roman the greek on May 28, 2011 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Facing the Cubs twice...

has a lot to do with getting Correia to 7 wins before any other NL pitcher.

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by jameslcrockett on May 27, 2011 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

He's 5-4 in his other starts...

with no hard-luck losses on his game log. There wouldn’t be anybody talking about Kevin Correia if he hadn’t spend 18% of his starts (29% of his wins) with the Cubs making him look good.

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by jameslcrockett on May 28, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Things I beg from this ownership/management

1. Please pay Soriano to play somewhere else.
2. Please buyout Ramirez for $2mil when the season is over.
3. Please try to facilitate some trades of Fukudome or Byrd (if healthy) at the deadline.
4. Please entertain trade offers for Soto.
5. Please hire a real manager.

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by SackMan on May 27, 2011 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

no way Rami is here next season

to keep him we would have to pay him $16M, no way in hell I see that happening

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am 99% with you....I have seen the Cubs do strange things though....

If he finishes strong and remembers its a contract year you never know what they might do.
I agree it should NOT happen.

by TJ11 on May 27, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quade is here for at least 2 years

That is my opinion. They have enough egg on there face with other moves. Firing Quade after one year they would run out of eggs.

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL.

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by Unique on May 27, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Green this.

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by eswan9 on May 27, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is with a great amount of shame

that I can confess the above pic is now my wallpaper on my ’puter…

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by jeffstorm2 on May 28, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Correia is above average

but regardless, any pitcher going against the Cubs will look like Sandy Koufax

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by DTJchris on May 27, 2011 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The end of today's game was so predictable

Bottom 8th – The Cubs had 2 on and Castro had a 3-1 count. I looked at my buddy and said “I hope he walks so Ramirez can hit a pop-up to end the inning.”

Bottom 8th – The Cubs had 1 on and Soriano at the plate – “We’ll get the 2-run homer, then 1 runner, and the 3 outs.” OK, I was off there. We didn’t get a runner on after the 2-run homer.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on May 27, 2011 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Bad news.

Robert Whitenack, who has been spectacular this year, made a pitch in the third inning – bent over and called for coaches. Don’t know the extent of the injury quite yet.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Whitenack is a prospect at AA for those who don't know.

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by Unique on May 27, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

someone will find a way to blame Hendry for it

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Ricketts.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if the Cubs signed Ryno this would not have happened?

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slcathena is my wonder twin, and our battle cry is "Twinners rooting for the Winners (by which I mean Starwin and Darwin)"

by Cubbie-Tim on May 27, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, crap

I was hoping to see him in September, too. Hopefully, it’s nothing major and he can return to form quickly.

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by Clutch16 on May 27, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

while winning cures many ills

This team seems completely devoid of energy. What that reinforces is that a team can bring in a younger, more “high energy” manager but ultimately it is the players that fuel the fire, and this team is suffering through a bunch of old, declining, tired, end-of-contract players who often seem to be going through the motions.

by BeltwayCubsFan on May 27, 2011 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Losing does that...

…but I have to admit, I watched Ramirez very closely today and his body language just screamed; lethary.

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by MPH73 on May 27, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus the errors

and just playing poor fundamentals zaps the juice out of the game. It seems 2 errors a game is the norm.

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

To the point of the post

I felt cheated after watching this one. Just a God-awful waste of time. The only good thing is I didn’t buy tickets and drive to Chicago to see it. I did that two weeks ago to watch a split with the Giants in terrible weather. We are clutching at straws here if we think Ramirez starts to hit with better weather, Doug Davis is any kind of an answer, or Rodrigo Lopez for that matter. I consider myself an above average baseball fan and I was sitting here saying “who”?
Funny how I was thinking a few weeks ago that Ramirez was going to have a huge year in order to get a big deal this offseason. I am now guessing after the Cubs are out of hit he hits a bunch of meaningless homers and ends up with 90 RBI’s somehow.

by Nibbles on May 27, 2011 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

It is with a heavy heart that I chime in

that this 2011 edition Cubs Team is one of the most frustrating I ever recall. Don’t mistake me, I’ve seen worse teams in my time. But, I do not recall a more underachieving team in recent memory! I didn’t expect the Cubs to win the division, but I sure as hell didn’t think they’d be fighting it out with Houston (HOUSTON?!) for last place coming into June. This team is so bad/disappointing/frustrating/hopeless on so many levels that this will doubtless become even more painful as the season progresses. And, what shall we do when this teams SP Staff is at “full strength” and we still embarrass ourselves? As always, I’ll continue to support/be hopeful for my (Gawd forgive me) chosen team…But, Ricketts/Hendry/Quade and company can sure test a mans (or womans) loyalty.

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno.

You can’t predict injuries, but overall, nothing has shocked me thus far. Sure, Ramirez hasn’t been all that good, but Barney has exceeded expectations. There’s some good and bad going on.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on May 27, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok Shoe... I'll give ya the fact

that some good has come out of this…along with a great deal of bad. Yes, I’m happy that Castro/Barney are doing well, Soriano is having a decent year, unless you take into account 18million, Fuke has a better OBP than I expected and our bullpen is fair to good. However, Demp and Garza (Garza not so much his fault) are about 21 million of what? Certainly not “#1 SPs”. And Z… at 91.5 million…an “Ace”…hardly. We both know that we’re just trying to find light in the dark…again.

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Throw in injuries are causing the Cubs to start AAA pitchers in 2 slots

The best defense is a good offense.....
Dusty Baker is the only manager in the last 100+ years to lead the Cubs to a post season series win....
"Take the hands off the clock, we're gong to be here a while"

by kcjones on May 28, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the injuries "excuse".

They happen. They happen every year. The Cards, Reds and Brewers have all had them but they don’t look like a team of 80 year old men.

The Pirates have been one team that has been healthy.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 28, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

As you might have noticed

I’m no fan of Hendry or his Demp/Z deals. I won’t mention the loss of DeRo as (in retrospect only) it fortunately turned out for the best. Into this mix I’ll throw our apparent inability to find real, usable talent. For our Castros, we’ve had Pies’. Our Barney? A Patterson… There’s very little sign that this team is beyond doubt headed towards certain improvement. Lastly, we saw the entire 2009 season…we’ve just had a 2 month glimpse at this teams “potential”.

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point on certain improvement

There are potentially only 3 or 4 players on this team (Castro, Marmol. Garza and maybe Wells) that are going to be starting in the next 2-3 years. Where are all the replacements coming from? I don’t see all from the minors. Many prospects flame out. Can Hendry spend the Cubs back to respectability? That answer is obvious.

It’s not a pretty picture.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on May 28, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've said this since 2009.

The cohesiveness of the team is horrible. We have alot of “ok” players on this team. Starlin looks like he going to be great but overall – the team just isn’t that good.

And even if we did get lucky and contend, we would have to overachieve. I don’t want to overachieve, I want a dynasty – a well oiled machine.

The 2009-2011 Cubs look like a rusty machine put together with WD-40 and duct tape.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 27, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

^THIS^

Altho I’m not ready to let TJ11 “invite me over for drinks”… I find myself more and more wondering, even for all his snark/sarcasm exactly how wrong he is. Honestly, under the current leadership, there’s little to really get excited about. (No insult intended towards TJ11…and thanks for the kool-aid delivery!) :]

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

And you V C F...

What are you laughin’ at?! We gotta do something better than watching every game!!! :]

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 28, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't fret...

I’m just playing hard to get!!! :]

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 28, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean like Red/ Green?

I guess if we look at it as a PBS comedy, it become somewhat funny & far less frustrating.

I have PMS & a GPS -- which means -- I am a bitch, and I will find you.

by cub in louies nest on May 28, 2011 12:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cubs pitching

Worst in the league in ERA, worst in WHIP, worst in defense independent ERA ratio, 2nd worst in opponent OPS, 2nd most walks and 2nd most Pitches per Plate appearance.

Almost 1/3 of the way through the season and it is not a pretty picture.

by azjazzman on May 27, 2011 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

wait till you see June

at Stl for three, at Cin for three, at Phily for four, four with Milw, three with Yankees, three at Sox, three at Royals, one with Colorado and four with the Giants. That’s 28 games, Cubs would be lucky to win 10 of them if this type of play continues.

by MikeJW on May 27, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I'll confess to being

happy that Rothchild was gone. The “last vestiges of the old regime”…the “Lou leftovers”… man…if I’d only knew… But hey! What about Rudy J?! He’s really got us raking the ball, uh? IIRC, that was a 7million deal… our clutch/situational/RISP ABs are no less than embarrassing/predictable.

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And yet...

This line of thinking ignores the fact that Wells and Cashner have been out with injuries almost the whole season. You can’t really use these stats when you consider the Cubs were essentially throwing every fifth game by starting Russell. And now Garza’s on the DL, too.

How would we have done with a healthy rotation this year? You tell me.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless Wells and Cashner could have driven in some runs at the plate...

…..I don’t see much difference in W-L record.

And you CAN use those stats that azjazzman posted, because those are the facts/results. They don’t have separate stat lines for “teams with depleted pitching staffs”.

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by carmen_fanzone on May 28, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

So the fact that Cashner and Wells are better than Coleman and Russell doesn't matter?

I don’t care what the stats say, if those two hadn’t gotten hurt (hypothetical, yes), this season could be better than it has been. Surely, one of them won’t go 0-5 with the ERA Russell had.

Since you’re assuming those two would be as bad as Coleman and Russell, it’s okay for me to assume they would be better.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a zing.

Good point. The Cardinals’ rotation hasn’t missed a beat without him.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 28, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cashner has exactly ONE major league start....

 …so there’s no way of really knowing.

And Wells, was wildly inconsistent last year. Sort of like………Casey Coleman.

But my point was better hitting would have made more of a difference to our W-L record than no injuries to the SP. We score 2-3 more runs in many of those ball games Russell starts and we win.

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on May 28, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cardinals are gonna run away with this division

anyone notice their run differential? by far the best in baseball, it’s time for the Cubs to start rebuilding now, this season is over. Bring up Colvin and play him everyday over Fukudome who should be gone now, start spot playing Soriano and Ramirez too.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings

by MikeJW on May 27, 2011 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

No I think Dome

has to play. If he keeps his production up into July, he becomes a pretty good trade chip.

by Grockcubs on May 27, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't think so

he will still be owed six million and nobody is gonna pay him that for three months, plus the guy only has 4 rbi’s all year, I don’t think anybody wants him. I would just release him by July 1st if we can’t get anything.

by MikeJW on May 27, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fukudome...

is left-handed, gets on base and plays good defense. It’s not going to be hard to convince a contender with some injury problems in the outfield to take him for the last two months (or one if it’s a waiver deal). Hopefully the Cubs will send some money over to acquire a better prospect, especially from a lower revenue team like KC or Cleveland. I think the Mariners would be a great team to target since they’re on the cusp of competing, have a huge void in LF and already have a huge Japanese tie-in.

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by jameslcrockett on May 28, 2011 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then how do you convince Fukudome to waive his NTC?

I do think that any process of trading him should start sooner rather than later. And any goodness he brings to the Cubs is pretty much beside the point – those pluses are wasted on this team.

by ClarkFan on May 28, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't address that...

because it doesn’t have any impact on whether a team will want him. First a team has to want him for what the Cubs will accept in trade and/or cover in salary, then you worry about NTCs. Since he’ll be a free agent anyway, I highly doubt it will be hard to get him to waive a NTC to go to a contender. I have no problem thinking he’d waive it to play alongside Ichiro in Seattle. The only reason I want to trade him at all is to get value from trading him since the Cubs won’t and shouldn’t offer him arbitration. It’s not like he’s a cancer to the team and I care not about saving this organization a few million dollars which won’t go back into improving the team.

I want the team to trade all of their “tradeable assets” for what the maximum they can get for them, as soon as they can get that. That went double for Marlon Byrd… oops!

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by jameslcrockett on May 30, 2011 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there was ever a quote that nailed it....
Aramis Ramirez says what he thinks. He told reporters "I got nothing" before walking away from his locker.

Hit that right square on the head, A-Ram…you got nothing.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 27, 2011 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

OTOH

Cubs (esp. mgt) has been imfamous for decieving the fan-base, and here we find Aram tellin the truth…hard to find fault in that. :]

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 27, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he will bat 4th tomorrow....

Quade said in the papar yesterday, it isnt time to move him…..

WHEN WOULD THAT BE?

by TJ11 on May 28, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, total cringe moment when he said that at the presser...

…..maybe it’s because he really doesn’t have another option…but he sounded clueless

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on May 28, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

TJ11- why is it

that time and time again, you insist on using facts/sound opinions to make your point!? How bout you start playing fair and belly up to the Cubs Pity Bar???

I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".

by jeffstorm2 on May 28, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

why is ramirez in the lineup?

if it is to make hendry look good then fire Q to save money and let hendry field manage his overpaid prima donnas

by Roman the greek on May 28, 2011 5:57 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm sick about our so-called "sluggers"

I have already given up the fact that they are not gonna walk a lot (other than Fuk and Pena). But you (yes, Mr. Ramirez and Soriano) should make a difference between a good 2-0 pitch, and a pitcher’s/ball 2-0 pitch. Just like they teach you as a kid (even in Hungary): on a 2-0 count you are waiting for 1 pitch at 1 exact location. Other than that, you take it.
If they can’t do that what are we expecting?

by Gio on May 28, 2011 6:49 AM CDT reply actions  

castro

should be batting cleanup. but unfortunately in this game you have to deal with egos and bruised feelings.and we dont want to upset mr ramirez do we? i guess the experts were right about this team. i told a friend i had bought a 2011 cubs calendar and he commented that it was the only calendar that ended in june. funny but true. already feels like a lost season.

by NOMAR on May 28, 2011 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

do we

have any decent pitching in the minors??i see the cubs signing all these over 35 pitchers to try and stop the bleeding. next year we need to reconfigure this rotation and get some pitching. as we are all seeing right now a team is nothing without good pitching.

by NOMAR on May 28, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs minor league pitching is thin compared to position players

which is actually a change from the past. Cubs do have some good pitchers but nearly all of them are one to three years away. There is no one realistically that could be brought up to start at this time. Depending on if Wells is really healthy and how long Garza is out expect more starts from Russell, Coleman & Davis and the only other person you might see is Ramon Ortiz or Lopez

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on May 28, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

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