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Patience Rewarded: Cubs Wait Out Storms, Beat Pirates 3-2

Many very strange things happened at Wrigley Field Sunday afternoon:

  • Lightning made at least two hits inside the ballpark, including one on the stairwell leading down from the left field bleachers;
  • The day started foggy and cold, then became stormy and dark. After the rain cleared, the fog rolled in again, making it impossible for a time to see home plate from the bleachers. Then the sun poked through, the wind shifted to the south and the temperature rose to about 70 degrees.
  • Aramis Ramirez hit a home run. (No, I am not making that up.)
  • And, the Cubs actually beat the Pittsburgh Pirates, winning 3-2 behind solid pitching and timely hitting.

Given what first appeared on local radars and then out of the sky in the form of very heavy rain accompanied with loud thunder and (as noted above) frequent lightning, I thought the Cubs should have called this game and played it on September 1, when both teams have an off day before the next Cubs/Pirates series at Wrigley. I understand the Cubs have had three rainouts already and didn't want another one, but under the conditions that appeared to be in Chicago for most of the afternoon, why wait until very late in the day, inconveniencing fans and risking injury to players?

Star-divide

Well, I'll admit I was wrong on this one. Once it stopped raining and the weird fog that blew back in almost immediately cleared out, it turned into a nice afternoon -- except for a brief rainshower that announced itself during the fourth inning. This time, the Cubs did make the right call by waiting out one of the fiercer storms to come through the Chicago area this spring.

Now could the rain please stop? I think I've seen enough the last two months to last the rest of the summer.

Not only did the Cubs win, but they won after spotting the Pirates a 2-0 lead in a manner we've seen far too often this season -- too many walks. Ryan Dempster issued a pair of walks after two were out in the first inning, and as has happened time and time and time again, he then gave up a hit scoring both of the runners, a two-run double by Lyle Overbay.

But the Cubs came back on Aramis Ramirez's first home run in 45 games. That's right, A-Ram homered in season game No. 6, and today was the Cubs' 51st game of the 2011 season. He still trails his former teammate Ryan Theriot in RBI, though; Theriot has 19, Ramirez 18. The Cubs weren't done in that inning, either; Carlos Pena followed up with a hit, advanced to third on a Tony Campana single and a throwing error, and scored when Koyie Hill hit a sacrifice fly.

Yes, that's right -- Hill hit a sac fly and also singled in what's likely to be his last start for a while; Geovany Soto was activated from the DL today and Welington Castillo sent back to Iowa. Also today, Brad Snyder was called up from Iowa and Reed Johnson placed on the DL with back problems. To make room on the 40-man roster for Snyder, Andrew Cashner was moved to the 60-day DL, a likely admission that we'll again see Cashner pitch in 2012.

Sorry, I digressed a bit. The Cubs took the lead in the third with good hitting -- a leadoff double from Kosuke Fukudome, followed by a Darwin Barney sacrifice and another sac fly, this one from Starlin Castro.

And then it was left to the pitchers; Dempster threw six credible innings, giving up just three singles after the first inning, and Kerry Wood, Sean Marshall and Carlos Marmol finished up, Marmol posting his 10th save and Dempster lowering his season ERA to an even 6.00. That isn't great, but a month ago it was 9.58. And wasn't this the plan? To have starters get to those three relievers, who would shut down opponents?

During the storms, Cubs security cleared the box seats and bleachers, and perhaps wisely so given the lightning hits, so I wound up staying below until after 2:30, when the rain finally stopped. Of the 37,464 announced as the paid crowd, maybe 25,000 or so were in the house; the bleachers were about 90% full at peak, and though some didn't wait out the rain (or maybe didn't show up at all), the ones who did were rewarded with a Cubs victory, and fairly quickly, too; the game time of 2:36 was the 11th shortest of the season so far and had everyone out of there by 6:30, something I wouldn't have thought possible when the skies turned nighttime dark at noon.

I said before this homestand the Cubs had to go at least 6-3 to have any hope of contention this year. Contention may still be far in the distance, but the Cubs have the NL's worst team, the Astros, coming in tomorrow. Not only that, but Houston also has the league's worst road record at 8-17. This is the time this Cubs team has to step up, if stepping up is to be done this year.

And the weather people promise this for Monday:

Memorial Day: Sunny, with a high near 92. Breezy, with a south southwest wind between 10 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.

After today's clearing skies, I think I actually believe them.

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Stop The Presses!

Aram homered? And the Cubs won? On WGN? On a Sunday?

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 29, 2011 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't be happy if the Cubs didn't go 6-3 or better on this homestand too

Sucks hearing about Cashner. Will Rodrigo Lopez be the 5th pitcher then? (and how much is Carlos Silva laughing at us right now?)

by braziliancubsfan on May 29, 2011 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

When Garza comes back...

… which may be by Friday or Saturday, either Davis or Lopez will be the 5th starter. The other will likely be gone (although, I suppose Lopez could throw long relief).

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Russell to be fifth starter!!!!

;-)

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 29, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Silva is garbage

who cares what he thinks….

by LT on May 29, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he would be much better than Coleman, Russel, and Davis

and probably Lopez. I’m pretty sure he said something about the Cubs regretting releasing him. So far, he’s been right, we sure could have used him the past month and a half.

by braziliancubsfan on May 29, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I am sure he is having loads of fun in Scranton

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on May 30, 2011 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gorzo is the one they could have used - Silva has yet to get a Major League hitter out

And before anyone gets excited about Burgess, here are his minor league stats:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=burges002mic

22 and posting a .296 OBP in A+. Had one good month last year in AA, but has mostly risen to “meh.” If he is a “prospect” then so is Silva. Nice scouting job, Jim….

by ClarkFan on May 30, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It looked pleasant enoughb in the bleachers, eventually

though the terrace got only from chilly to “cool.” But yes, once they got going the day turned out OK. Props to Koyie Hill for a decent day: effective sac, threw out an attempted steal, nice catch on a foul bunt and a gull-scattering single. Nice score from Peña too on a close play at the plate.

by ChipSet on May 29, 2011 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone hear anything about DJ LeMahieu?

Micah Gibbs is congratulating him on Twitter for his “Call up” to the Windy City.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

Where could he find playing time behind Castro, Barney, and Ramirez?

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Maybe it’s just a call up to Iowa and Gibbs got it wrong. But the exact tweet was

Congrats to my boy @DJLeMahieu on the call up!! Tear it up in the windy city!

LeMahieu has a Twitter account, but he hasn’t posted on it since November.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mikie Mahtook also has congratulated him on twitter

and a few other realtime tweets on google are talking about it

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Someone at LSU is tweeting it too.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just having a hard time figuring out why he would be called up.

There’s just no playing time to be had at second or third, and it’s not like Barney can move over to short. I love Lemahieu as a prospect, but he needs to be playing everyday and I can’t see him doing that in Chicago right now.

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see he has played a lot a third

so perhaps Baker is going on the DL. Seems a bit silly since DeWitt can play third but we shall see.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd start him over Barney.

But Barney isn’t a problem at all right now.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mikie Mahtook

Also tweeted about it. As did some one who is a “HS buddy.” They both said “majors.”

Sounds like he got called up. Who got hurt?

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baker?

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I bet that’s it. For some reason I thought he was already on the DL.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still disagree with the callup unless he's going to start over Barney.

He’s too good of a prospect to sit on the bench.

Flaherty might of been a better callup, being that he can play alittle bit of everywhere.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would NEVER happen.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he's just going to sit on the bench

Then you bring Scales up and move DJ to AAA.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on May 29, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops I was posting that above without seeing this

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you go to Tampa today

To get your Super Sam Fuld Cape? Or are you just going to try to get one on EBay?

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was posted on a thread earlier this week

Rami’s performance a year ago, as crappy as it was, was still better than his this year. And there’s no indication that Rami is injured as he was last year.

by Danwood on May 29, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

was still better than his this year

are you serious?

flippity floppity floop

by jesus christos on May 29, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ramirez hit a few HR in 2010 up to this time

… the rest of his game was way off.

This year, he’s hit OK, just with no power.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said.

A few more HR, but the rest of his game was bad at this time last year.

This year, his BA and OBA are fine, just no power so far.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice win today!

I miss those midwestern thunderstorms. We never get thunder or lightning here.

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by calicubfan on May 29, 2011 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

It really felt like 2 diffirent days today. Morning, you would've guessed that you were in San Francisco

you couldn’t see much, and it made driving dangerous, especially for my family going to church and all (which is like 40 minutes away from here) Then on our way back, it just started pouring , and it stopped a bit, and then it really was pounding by the time we were home real hard, with thunder and lightning. By like 3, it stopped raining, and the clouds were just beginning to clear. Now looking outside, you wouldn’t have guessed that it poured so hard just looking at the sky.

by braziliancubsfan on May 29, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I miss them too

but not enough to move back. The ‘storms’ in SoCal are a just sad.

by cabearsfan on May 29, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got a midwestern thunderstorm here the other day.

Causes this entire area to freeze up. They don’t bother me, but it’s fun watching everyone here panic over one of them.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 29, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ricketts isn't trying

to burn the place down for the insurance money.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on May 29, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

heyoooooooooooo

We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. I just can't figure out where else to play!
-- Pat Williams

by Fat Punk Kicker on May 30, 2011 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't mean Cashner is out for the season in any way.

It’s retroactive, and he was placed on the DL in early April, not sure the exact date. So I’m assuming that could make him eligible to come off as early as the second week of June right? Realistically, I hope we see him sometime in July.

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Josh curious

why not call up Flaherty? I don’t know. Flaherty older, can play third. Just curious.

by Grockcubs on May 29, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

LeMahieu can play third too

And he’s better defensively at any position.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

I hope Flaherty still gets a shot sometime this year

by Grockcubs on May 29, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he does, this team will not be worth watching

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

by louslovechild on May 29, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

not that they really are now.

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

by louslovechild on May 29, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Rami hits his first homerun in 45 games, yeah that was exciting. Flaherty is ripping it, lets see what he has.

by Grockcubs on May 29, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

I think a lot of people would love to see Flaherty, hes on pace for 25+ HR, has a .317 BA and .389 OBP, and can play 6 positions. He also gets compared to Mark DeRosa, so you know Cub fans will love him.

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He also would make perfect sense for the team.

We’ve tried DeWitt and Baker for those “super sub” roles, but neither of those guys have the power Flaherty does.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Makes to much sense

Move DeWitt and bring up Flaherty also.

by Grockcubs on May 29, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I would do.

Blake DeWitt really has no purpose on this team.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

ehhhh

typically – 60 day means giving up on…

by hansman1982 on May 29, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

teams also use the 60 day when they need another 15 day DL

I believe a club only has a limited number of 15 day DL slots to use (I forget how many). When those are full and somebody else gets hurt, sometimes they’ll shift the ‘most’ injured of the players over to one of their 60 day DL slots to make room for the new injured guy.

Now if no one else on the team is hurt and the club still puts somebody on the 60 day DL, then that probably means sayonara for the season.

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by ballhawk on May 30, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it has more to do

with needing space on the 40 man roster.

by LT on May 30, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rami hit a homer

And we manufactured not one run, but two. Strange day at Wrigley.

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by Clutch16 on May 29, 2011 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Is this what happens when the Cubs steal four bases in a game?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 29, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crane Kenney and the marketing dept got a little cheap

with their on the field fireworks display.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the F-18 Turbo Gulls crashed?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 30, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Disco Demolition Night (day)!

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by Zeke on May 30, 2011 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I got a wacky idea ...

When Demp is scheduled to pitch, put in the ‘reliever’ to start the game.
Let Demp start pitching after the first inning.

by Greggle on May 29, 2011 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Just glad they won

Negative vibe from the weather, Quade, Ricketts, Koyie Hill, Castro still hitting 3rd, Russell in the rotation, Rami hitting 4th, Sori swinging at pitches in the opposing teams dugout and injuries.
I hope it ends, somehow I hope they can put some games together that they actually look like they beat the Reds, Cards and Brewers.
 Beat the Astros.

by Grockcubs on May 29, 2011 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Congrats to D.J LeMahieu on his major league call up. Tear it up man!! #LSU

This is what Mikie Mahtook has to say. Baker to the DL?

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

by louslovechild on May 29, 2011 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd assume Baker.

Unless we somehow traded Barney or Ramirez.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd drive him to the airport.

But he’s not going anywhere.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

(in regards of Ramirez)

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'd drive Barney to the airport

But only if he was late for the team plane.

by ClarkFan on May 29, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd drive him to the airport

for a list of guys.. David Wright, Felix Hernandez, and Justin Verlander to just name a few.

I’d even pay for his ticket. :-)

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just wrapped up a nearly 12 hour day at the park, I'll be back tomorrow. I should have a post that'll be pretty interesting for pregame -SS

This is what Levine is tweeting. Makes the LeMahieu thing more interesting.

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

by louslovechild on May 29, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Note, on Levine's Twitter...

… when it says “SS” at the end, that’s his assistant tweeting.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either way

"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."

by louslovechild on May 29, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No information from "deep goat"?

:)

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

more like deep crawfish

I knew the Cubs could not a season without a Cajun

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by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

But no, no D.G. info. Have made some other inquiries.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry I just assumed with a name like that and being at LSU

he was a Cajun.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they'd take him

He’s got the name for it, at least.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

only if he eats 2 dozen raw oysters 1st

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by Fat Punk Kicker on May 30, 2011 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I swear following the Cubs is more dramatic than watching a episode of Desperate Housewives.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forgive me Josh

but I can’t resist
Daytona scores two in the bottom of the 8th and wins it’s 12 in a row.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 29, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

Unbelievable. They’re now 39-12.

by Josh Timmers on May 29, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Impressive.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we just get all the deadwood out of Iowa and Tennessee?

At 39-12, it would seem that much of that roster belongs in suburban Knoxville pretty soon, with Ha already being there for example.

It’s time to move a bunch of the “organizational filler” at AA/AAA to make room to give these Daytona guys a shot at tougher competition.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on May 29, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

AA...

has more legit prospects than Daytona. Ha, Jackson, Flaherty, Vitters, Gonzalez, McNutt, Whitenack, Carpenter, Beliveau, Rhoderick, Dolis, and they did have Lemahieu until tonight. Daytona has Lake, Cerda, Kurcz, Struck, Rosscup, and some fringe guys like Bour, but are not near as deep as Tennessee when it comes to prospects. And Tenessee’s record isn’t too shabby either, last I saw they were 32-17.

by Dcr18 on May 29, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

So let's get rid of some of the AAA dross

Cutting Mathes, even though he’s a great organizational soldier, is a starting point. I’d like to see them move 6-8 more guys from Daytona to Tennessee, and 4-5 guys from Tennessee to Iowa.

Scales, LaHair, Diamond, and Ortiz off the top can be shown the door.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on May 29, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, the five guys I mentioned...

Do you really want to see ANY of them playing in Chicago instead of their prospect counterpart?

Scales – Flaherty/LaMathieu
LaHair – Colvin
Mathes/Diamond/Ortiz – Coleman/Jackson/McNutt

I would argue that:
1) We seem to have enough guys at Daytona/Tennessee who deserve a better shot, and
2) Getting 6yr minor league free agents for organizational depth is relatively easy to do

I can see keeping Scales because I suspect that he’s being groomed to eventually manage at the minor league level. The rest… there’s no real point in their space-taking if there are better guys at AA.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on May 30, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rhetorical Question Theatre
why wait until very late in the day, inconveniencing fans and risking injury to players?

because they already have too many rain outs.

Now could the rain please stop?

maybe

And wasn’t this the plan?

What, have Dempster drop his ERA from 9 to 6.58? I don’t think that was the plan, but there’s a dangling modifier in there so I can’t be sure.

To have starters get to those three relievers, who would shut down opponents?

Oh, that’s what you meant. Perhaps you just should have said that instead of frame it as another piece of rhetorical gymnastics.

Yes.

Tomorrow, we might get into gratuitous affirmation! (No, I am not making this up)

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 29, 2011 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

"Too many rainouts"?

You mean all two that they have to make up, both in the same week in June?

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Two too many.

Only so much room in the schedule.

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 29, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

Like the Cubs can control the weather.

In 2009 they had five, and managed to make up four (the last one was the final Pirates game, no need to make it up).

There was an open date September 1, right before the next series at Wrigley between the two teams. Why not play it then, sell maybe some more tickets, and not play in wet conditions?

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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Seriously?

Yes. The Cubs have no control over the weather, but they control their schedule. The gold standard is to make up no dates at all. Anything above that is too many.

Compounding this problem is the fact it’s been a terrible Spring for not only the Cubs, but all across the league. Many teams are facing multiple makeup dates and that limits options.

Why not play it then, sell maybe some more tickets, and not play in wet conditions?

You never know what it’s gonna be like down the road. Take what you can get right now, maybe Sep. 1 will be 75 and clear skies, maybe it’ll be pouring rain and 50, but either way you still got the game in, won, and inconvenienced some people. Kinda like giving up prospects for a major leaguer….a practice you’ve been vocal about not endorsing. ;)

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 30, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

What other teams do has no bearing on what the Cubs do.

You’d think the Pirates would have been happier making up the game in September than being delayed, and likely not getting into New York until midnight.

It’s much more likely that it will be nice on September 1, than not. Would be very unusual for it to be 50 degrees that day, when the average high is 79.

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by Al Yellon on May 30, 2011 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're at a disadvantage for the weather

I waited at home for the weather to clear. I checked weather.com and their interactive map showed a clear window at 4PM to get the game in. I’m sure the Cubs use that or another weather service that can show the track of storms into the area. Once ypu’re at the game, I’m sure it’s not as easy to get the local weather forecast.

As a side note, my 8 year-old daughter, who got to the game today, was worried about the weather earlier. She was afraid that Wrigley Field might get damaged by a tornado.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on May 29, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs supposedly subscribe to a private weather service.

I do not know which one.

Honestly, anyone with a smartphone that has weather apps can track weather as well at the ballpark as at home. I know I did that today — at least till my phone battery died.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The smarter the phone, the faster the battery drains.

The happier a Cubs fan is, the more opportunity for misery opens up sometime soon. :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on May 29, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't doubt that to be true

If not, then they should send Casey Coleman/cash considerations to WGN for Tom Skilling.

giterdonejim

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by Gibbon Jockey on May 30, 2011 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's official.

ESPN Chicago reports LeMahieu called up. Jeff Baker to DL.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 29, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the update.

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by Al Yellon on May 29, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just goes to show

I know this isn’t a good team but it could be so much better if they were getting decent starting pitching….like it appeared they would coming out of spring training. These injuries are a damn shame.

by Ron Swanson on May 29, 2011 9:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Al, just look at the radar before you head to the park.

A quick look would tell you some really nasty stuff was on its way and then, by late afternoon, was going to be over. No one in their right mind would have looked at it and thought they should be at the park by 1:20.

by the nth on May 29, 2011 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Instant Replay and Seagulls

From my 8 year-old daughter at Sunday’s game as we discussed touching all the bases to score a run – “they could attach cameras to the seagulls and then they would know when each runner touched the base.”

Their might also have been an idea about learning how seagulls talk and have the seagulls tell us what they saw on the play….

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on May 30, 2011 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

The Wrigley Seagull Cam!

That’s marketing gold, Jerry, gold! Get this to Ricketts’ attention pronto!

Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.

by daver on May 30, 2011 10:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Out of the mouths of babes...

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on May 30, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I am looking forward to listening to the archive of this game.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 30, 2011 12:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Uh, oh.

Cubs have the NL’s worst team, the Astros, coming in tomorrow. Not only that, but Houston also has the league’s worst road record at 8-17.

This almost guarantees the Astros will take two of three.

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by Zeke on May 30, 2011 4:16 AM CDT reply actions  

im glad

you guys are finally going to get some good weather. and congrats to the cubs for winning their first sunday game.and with lopez-z-and davis pitching i dont expect a sweep.and i agree we wont see cashner again this year.one more thing.and it looks like the end of the ramirez era in chicago.one thing about hendry he seems to know when to let these guys go.derek lee being a prime example. too bad as ramirez is still one of our best players.

by NOMAR on May 30, 2011 6:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice to see some good 2008-style pitching yesterday

And speaking of pitching, I hope there isn’t anything more wrong with Cashner than the original diagnosis of a strained rotator cuff.

by EalyEagle on May 30, 2011 9:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Less depressing outcome.

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on May 30, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Tastes great!

Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.

by daver on May 30, 2011 11:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Patience rewarded indeed.

Really didn’t expect this game to be played considering how it was as dark as night and raining so heavily at times. So glad we hung around. It really ended up being a beautiful day. Al, it was nice to see you out there.

Finally got to see a win (this was my 6th game and they lost all the others I’ve been to) so maybe I am not a jinx after all. Also, my devotion to Koyie paid off and I got to witness his sac fly, base hit and a gem of a catch in person.

Question: Why weren’t they selling scorecards before the game? Is this typical of a rain delay? We checked every single stand and no one was open. Ricketts lost out on a couple Washingtons from me.

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on May 30, 2011 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

You could have found a scorecard at the gift shops.

Many of the scorecard vendor stands did close down during the delay. Not sure why.

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by Al Yellon on May 30, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I’ll remember that for next time.

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on May 31, 2011 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

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