Tyler Colvin Activated, Alfonso Soriano To DL
So tweets Carrie Muskat. Now, let Mike Quade do the right thing and start Colvin every day. Let's see what he can do.
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Not ectstatic over this but definately not a surprise
If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.
Normally you would expect this to happen.
With this staff who knows….. He may start Barney out there next.
Exactly. LOL.
Never trust Quade to do the logical thing.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
If Colvin does not play, this is just stupid.
The only reason to bring up Colvin is if he plays, otherwise its back to square 1 from when they sent him down. Hopefully they do the right thing.
Exactly.
If Colvin sits while DeWitt plays consistently against right handers …
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What about the first 52 games
Would make you think the right decision would be made here? I guess I’m happy they decided to use the farm instead if going after retreads like a Davis or a Lopez. Maybe Hollandsworth can steal a few at bats?
by hawkster34 on May 31, 2011 2:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The Cubs didn't really have better options in the farm than Davis or Lopez.
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We
traded one of those options to Tampa for another guy on the DL. Everything that can go bad has.
by hawkster34 on May 31, 2011 3:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty sure McNutt had blister issues that prevented him from getting the call early in the year.
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Is still dealing with them, last I've heard.
But still quietly having a very good year.
Archer has been anything but impressive in AA for Tampa this year...
He wasn’t getting the call up with this situation any more than McNutt has.
details details
Hendry shouldn’t have traded the future hall of famer Archer!
by LT on May 31, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. Two months clearly proves that Archer will be shit for the rest of his career
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
#1, Six is more than two
#2, I think scouting reports said he was a stud. Two months don’t disprove that.
I don’t know whether he is or isn’t ever going to be a stud but claiming that Archer’s struggles so far prove Hendry was right to trade him is silly.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Archer has a lot of question marks...
Always has, and his BB/9 rate is getting worse this year.
He’s got a huge ceiling, but the floor could fall out. I don’t think Archer is going to be the one we regret losing, and I think Garza will have a much better career than him overall.
Ok. But that wasn't my point.
“I don’t know whether he is or isn’t ever going to be a stud but claiming that Archer’s struggles so far prove Hendry was right to trade him is silly.”
That was my point.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
I don’t wanna hear any chatter from Quade about “mixing and matching”. Put Colvin in the line up and leave him alone!
Soriano on 15-day, per Bruce Miles.
http://twitter.com/#!/TheCCO/statuses/75651499044257792
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Tweets also indicated...
… Soriano should not be out more than the 15 days.
Colvin HAS to start. If DeWitt starts in LF ahead of him, that’s just insanity.
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Insanity
Like starting James Russell 5 times…..
by hawkster34 on May 31, 2011 3:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm thinking
Koyie. His defensive prowess and leadership will carry over to left!!!
by hawkster34 on May 31, 2011 3:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And the other outfielders like playing catch with him.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
by Easy Ed on May 31, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the other outfielders like playing catch with him.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Blake DeWitt is the Koyie Hill of the infielders
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
much better to use Lopez. He did much better. lol
Lopez has a career ERA under 4.80 and a career FIP and xFIP under the same.
He’s not great, but he’s a HELL of a lot better than any of the other fodder we’ve trotted out except maybe Doug Davis.
I learned a long time ago not to trust the Cubs when they make these sort of projections.
But agreed about the insanity part.
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Quade is a idiot if he starts DeWitt over Colvin....
There is NO excuse not to play him.
What them do something equally stupid and play Colvin in CF and DeWitt in LF…..
We've already established he doesn't know what he's doing
Every other knucklehead move he makes just adds to the list.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
But the wings and pizza
in the bleachers are # 1 . Do not forget shirts, cheap beer ect !!
Do you honestly believe Quade will make the right choice?
It has been one questionable decision after another…
When does your friend Ricketts step in and say enough is enough?
Hey TJ
Hill was 6-5 while Soto was out and Beef was 0-4. Care to step up and say Quade was right on that one?
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by SouthWabashSoul on May 31, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You're really trying this again?
Hill got 7 more starts than Castillo. Castillo’s starts were when the worst of the worst of out staff were pitching.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Seven more starts
and six more wins.
All I’m saying is, you guys act like it’s such a no-brainer that Castillo should start over Hill. Their performances while Soto was on the DL make that case weak.
I’ll venture out on a limb and say any team that has a back-up catcher who can step up when the primary C goes on the DL and the team wins more games than it loses when the back-up starts does not have an albatross on their hands.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on May 31, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Hill "stepped up" to the tune of hitting sub .220 with an even less impressive OPS
I’m saying his starts had nothing to do with who the better catcher was.
There was NO REASON not to give Castillo more starts.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm saying team performance matters
and that I’m not willing to make the judgment from 1500 miles away from a keypad.
When your catcher starts a game and wins one you can make this claim. Until then it is doomsday garbage and you should admit the possibility, however slight it may be, that you could be wrong. It should be ineligible for the QIAFI crowd. I don’t think Quade is perfect, but at times it appears you guys are rooting against him, and I think other posters can and should take offense to this.
The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney
by SouthWabashSoul on May 31, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think what's tiresome
Is that people like Nunya are constantly having their positions purposely misinterpreted, whether it be that they’re actively rooting against Quade or that Russell is the difference between winning and losing a pennant.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
And I'm saying the only stat more worthless in determining a players performance
than Pitcher’s W-L, is Catcher’s W-L. I’m far from the only person who knows that. There are simply too many factors that aren’t remotely the same for you to try and lean on their W-L Record. The first one being, who’s to say Wellington doesn’t go 6-1 in seven additional starts?
You’re not even comparing…comparable records thanks to Hill getting so much more playing time. You wanna argue that Hill is the better catcher? Fine. Find a stat that actually proves that rather than the most useless stat in baseball.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and if there's one thing we've learned
it’s that the Cubs are always right when diagnosing the length of time a player will be out due to injury
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It's official
Carrie Muskat and Bruce Miles both tweeted: Soriano to DL, Colvin activated
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Has Colvin really earned the right to play?
-258 OPS this year at MLB Level
-267 avg with a 282 OBP at AAA
.787 career Minor league OPS
If not for 6 hot weeks to start 2010, and Tim Wilken reaching to draft him 5 rounds early in 2006. Would any other organization really consider him a prospect?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
He hit 20 HRs as a rookie, with non-starter playing time
And you’re really questioning Tim Wilken here?
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
He hit 20 HR in half a season....This team has little power and sucks...Lets see what we have....
He still has as many HR this season as our clean up hitter…
He hit 20 HR in half a season....This team has little power and sucks...Lets see what we have....
He still has as many HR this season as our clean up hitter…
Half a season?
He had 350-400 at-bats.
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He never topped 15 in the minors.....
I doubt he hits 20 again. I agree he should start, but he’s not very good either.
He also didnt have the extra 25 pound of muscle in the minors then he did last year.
The kid dedicated himself to getting stronger. and that translated into more HRs so i think that argument is pointless. Also, who are you to say he’s not very good? He played part time for 1 season in the bigs, hit a respectable .250 and hit 20 HRs. not bad for a rookie IMHO….
Track record
Other than 6 hot weeks to start 2010, Colvin has ALWAYS had a mediocre track record.
Sub 780 OPS last year after mid May
Sub 780 OPS in over 4 years in the minors
Mediocre college stats.
If not for the Cubs preference of “Guys who look good in a baseball uniform” over “Guys who can actually play baseball”
Tyler Colvin would be a non-issue. A probable 3rd-5th round draft pick who may or may not be in AA elsewhere right now?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
his stats say he isnt very good.
I go by those.
Half a season?
He had 350-400 at-bats.
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He's Matt Murton but just not nearly as good
We don’t have anything else in the system. We aren’t going anywhere as a team this year.
Still doesn’t change that Colvin is a 4th outfielder on a real roster.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
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What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
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What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
What a strange comparison.
Murton was an OBP guy who hit right handed. Colvin is a lefty who strikes out too much and has real power.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Don't really disagree
However DeWitt and Colvin are the same age. Relying on either guy to be a long term solution is silly in both cases.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Maybe, but his rookie season was better
than anything Murton ever did for us.
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by SouthWabashSoul on May 31, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Not even close
Tyler Colvin 2010- 358 At Bats .816 OPS
Matt Murton 2005- 140 at bats .908 OPS
Plus Murton followed up with 455 at bats of .809 ops in 2006. Just wasn’t toolsy enough for Hendry, Soulful enough for Dusty or Left-handed enough for Lou?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
There wasn't a position for him to play after they signed Soriano.
He wasn’t a good enough right fielder.
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Instead of Soriano for 8 years
We could have signed JD Drew for 4 years and put him in Right.
Then we’d have someone who could actually field a position AND get on base?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
No argument here.
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Who would you prefer?
We’re not looking at a lot of great options.
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I want the cubs to target better players
Maybe someone who can get on base 30% of the time, WITHOUT having to hit .285.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
What a earth-shattering comment!
Hey everybody — we’ll be better if we get better players!
It’s so simple!
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Now let's hope
Quade does the RIGHT thing and start Colvin over DeWitt in LF and not jack him around sitting on the bench. DeWitt is NOT a LF.
Tonight's preview thread ...
could get very, very nasty.
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No. I don't.
Think I’ll stay out, actually.
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I just hope Tony C plays!
I need sb’s so I added em to my fantasy league lol.
by bleedinblue76 on May 31, 2011 3:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Soriano strained his quad just watching Campana!
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano strained his quad just watching Campana!
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
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by cooliogirl47 on May 31, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone got some insight on
This Jordan Lyles mlb debut fella from the Stros? I hear he’s the 2010 minor league pitcher of year?
by bleedinblue76 on May 31, 2011 3:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
anyone got some insight on
This Jordan Lyles mlb debut fella from the Stros? I hear he’s the 2010 minor league pitcher of year?
by bleedinblue76 on May 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well, he's certainly not facing the '27 Yankees tonight in his debut.
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Luckily the Cubs always pound young pitchers making debuts...
Wait, we dont??? Damnit!
Bruce Miles with a (possible) jab at Quade.
Emphasis mine:
You may remember catcher Welington Castillo. He got a non-look-see with the Cubs while Geovany Soto was on the DL. In his first game back with Class AAA Iowa, Castillo went 2-for-5 with his third homer.
Also, BJax played his first game back with AA, so I that probably put him in the mix for a callup. Full post here, http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/5796.
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Please don't pretend that Muskat is a beat writer.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on your definition of ...
Oh that’s mean, I wont go there.
Wait, what call up?
Colvin was called up. BJax also went 0-4 with 3Ks yesterday. He needs some time to recover in AA.
That was from Miles before they announced Colvin was coming up....It was there this morning...
My answer was real, though, they will be sitting together tonight on the bench.
That was from Miles before they announced Colvin was coming up....It was there this morning...
My answer was real, though, they will be sitting together tonight on the bench.
Meant to say that probably took him out of the mix for a callup.
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Come on...he got 13 AB's in 14 days...that's more than enough time to know whether he was going to be better than Hill.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Colvin's back, eh?
“And the hits just keep on comin’”
Unless he was hitting .350 in the minors then this is stupid…but, “Stupid is what stupid does”. This organization is really getting comical. They best play him then or it’ll be a new level of dumbness.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
This really isn't that stupid a move
Jackson wasn’t coming. He JUST got off the DL. Besides him, who should we have called up?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody...
…they sent him down for a reason. If he’s already “fixed” then they need to call up the AAA’s hitting coach, too, and send down Rudy J.
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by Easy Ed on May 31, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait...what?
First you say Colvin should start, now you’re saying he shouldn’t even be here?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Name "anybody"
Because that’s a nonsense answer
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Perez...anybody...
Colvin is figured into the future from what I understand. He has NO confidence…he has NO plate coverage…he has got to remedy both of those things, because, he’s not gonna do anybody (including himself) any good until he does. Another thing…how many times can a player be called up and sent down before he has to clear waivers? This is just insane.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
From what I understand, waivers don't work that way.
It’s years of service. Colvin could literally be called up and sent down every ten days and would still be ours until his clock runs out
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, ok...didn't realize that
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
I don't neccesarily disagree on the rest
Except that I don’t think Colvin is a vital cog in our future. I think his “future” is as a fourth outfielder at best. Also, if Colvin plays and his problems were “self esteem” then getting to play damn near every day in a major league uniform could do wonders for him.
If Quade basically uses him as a 6th outfielder though, then we have a problem. But at that point the issue isn’t with the callup, it’s with a manager who can’t find his ass with both hands.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Right -- the option argument is a non-starter.
Also, why would Colvin’s confidence be lower if he went up and down than if he stayed in Des Moines for two months?
That said, if he rots on the bench in Chicago, Quade will have seriously f’d up.
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He's hitting a buck thirty, el...
he shouldn’t see Wrigley again until Sept. or 2012. He’s way, WAY over-matched up there. 20 HRs last year was cool, but, they figured him out. He’s got nothing right now.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
this is also true
flippity floppity floop
by jesus christos on May 31, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
OR
He got off to a really terrible start, and was pressing because AT THE TIME all three of the outfielders playing ahead of him were hitting the cover off the ball for the most part.
Maybe the league has figured him out, maybe being told “until Soriano is back you are our starting LFer” will let him relax. We don’t know yet. I think he might still be able to be an asset in some regard. I don’t think the same of Perez
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt he was told "You'll be the starting LFer until Soriano is back"...
If so, then what the hell is this?…
Quade said that DeWitt would play left field until Soriano returned from his injury.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
I didn't say he WAS told that
I said IF he was told that he might be able to settle in and hit better.
And as for that comment from Quade. It is more of the idiotic drivel I am quickly becoming far too accustomed to. If that holds true, and we basically have three outfielders sitting on the bench while an infielder is playing left field….Quade and Hendry should be fired before June ends
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed!!!!!
I can’t believe Hendry has made it this far?
If Ricketts has any testicular fortitude he will clean house before the calender reaches 2012.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
The next few months should answer that question...
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Testicular Fortitude?
Is that a new vending stand out in the bleachers? If so, I’m sure Ricketts has lots of it before each TV promo he does
LOL!!!
Hiya Dano! Love that you named a foodstand after “Testicular Fortitude”… they serve Rocky Mtn Oysters???
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Yep...
by the time we’re raising our glasses and welcoming a new year, Hendry and 2/3s of the roster should be out the door. Now, will they be?…the answer to that question will pretty much dictate where Tom Ricketts will be leading this team to.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Come on, Ed.
I know there’s some chicken-and-egg logic at play here, but he hardly got any at-bats in Chicago. I didn’t mind sending him down — he needed at-bats — but saying he shouldn’t be up until September? What if he had torn it up in June in Des Moines?
BTW, I am against calling him up if he sits.
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Colvin had a .282 ON BASE % in Des Moines
So he needs to be prominently featured in Chicago!!!!!
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
As opposed to Blake DeWitt's .294 in Chicago.
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Neither guy is any good
Both are the same age and likely have backup futures. Don’t understand why one needs to play over the other?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Well, for starters, one is actually an outfielder
and one has at least shown some ability to overcome previous projections. There is no argument to be made that they shouldn’t see if he could do it again
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Honest to god.
What would be the harm in allowing him to be the starter while Soriano is hurt?
Please. Tell me. Would the team be worse?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Because they already said DeWitt will be...
so, Colvin will probably be platooned with ’Dome, Campana and Pena and get about 8-10 ABs a week.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
That isn't what I asked.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
EVERYONE should be against calling him up if he sits
I hope there was SOME communication between Quade and Hendry that since he’s returning he needs to get starts and a lot of them.
Beef’s situation leads me to believe no such communication took place.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Well ...
you can make the “calls a good game” argument with Hill. You can’t really do that with a LF.
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If that's honestly the argument for playing Hill 11 out of 15 games
then you can come up with just as bad a one for why DeWitt should play left.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not making that argument.
I’m saying that I don’t think it’s an apples-to-apples situaiton.
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The only reason he was sent down, was because
His manager mismanaged his playing time and put him in a slump from hell. Quade even had him pinch hit vs a lefty (I witnessed that).
But, Carlos Pena can bat .159 for April, and still keep his job.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Pena kept his job because he is much more valuble than Colvin.
Colvin just cannot get on base. It’s almost as if he refuses to take pitches. He’s not very good.
Yes... there are 10 million reasons why Pena is more valuable.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
haha, or maybe its his OBP, his SLG, or his defense.
Maybe its just every aspect of the game.
Colvin was outslugging Pena while Hendry was talking about how
Colvin was benched because the team rewards production.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok you can tell me you think Colvin is better than Pena...
But then you have no right to be taken seriously again. lol
That is just a huge joke.
Well, that ISN'T what I was telling you. Reading comprehension is key
And your argument is even dumber since the two weren’t competing for playing time. The argument that Colvin wasn’t hitting meant that his playing time should fall off the cliff is pretty damn silly when another player is doing worse and hitting every day in the middle of the order
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes reading comprehension is key....so try it sometime.
I said Pena still deserved to be in the lineup because he is just better. In every way. You seemed to think that wasn’t the case.
When colvin was crushing the ball in 2010
and not playing, that’s mismanaging his playing time. But not in 2011.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a definite chicken-egg issue here.
He hardly got any consistent playing time in April and in early May.
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.282 OBP In Des Moines?
Should we revert to his Little League stats for support>
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
As opposed to .294 for DeWitt in Chicago.
I’m not saying Colvin shouldn’t have stayed in Des Moines to work on his hitting.
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About the same as 2010
which is unfortunate.
April, 2010 = 45 ABs with a 965 OPS
April, 2011 = 51 ABs with a 542 OPS
And it’s not like he had the same spring training as 2010.
Bottom line, I hope he found swing and/or started to learn to lay off some breaking balls.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That's interesting.
And discouraging.
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Haha, they can't win for losing...
An entire other thread with 500 posts for NOT calling Colvin up to start. And now the “they’re idiots for bringing up Colvin” is going to start here.
YAY!
by bdlugz on May 31, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If he's not starting it's beyond comprehension.
If he’s not in the lineup today I wont freak since it’s short notice… but 14 of the next 15 games he’d better be.
and won't be
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
This by the way, could be copied word for word from when Castillo was called up
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Quade is pretty predictable on his catchers
He settles on one as the starter and that guy plays 5-6 days a week. Before Soto went, you rarely saw Hill. When Soto hit the DL, Hill moved up to started and Castillo was the back-up.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Quade is pretty predictable on his catchers
He settles on one as the starter and that guy plays 5-6 days a week. Before Soto went, you rarely saw Hill. When Soto hit the DL, Hill moved up to started and Castillo was the back-up.
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not like we're ever going to be in 100 percent agreement.
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I agree, we should trade him to a team that needs a weak hitting, bad defensive utility infielder
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It's too bad we can't trade him to ourselves.
by Jody Jody Davis on May 31, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
We would just overpay for him
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by Fat Punk Kicker on May 31, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Pena and Ramirez flipped in the lineup.
http://twitter.com/#!/BruceMiles2112/status/75669890031304704
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You're just messin' with us
aintcha elgato? :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Nope.
Sadly, it’s one step forward and one (maybe more) back with DeWitt starting over Colvin.
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Well, at least these changes will give our lineup
a different look…the old look has been anything but flattering. :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
I can't take solace in that, Jeff.
I know you try to bring optimism around here, and you do it in a nice, respectful way. Props for that.
But this … is just beyond the pale. I’d be OK with Colvin getting at-bats in Iowa and DeWitt getting some time in left. But DeWitt starting in Chicago while Colvin rots on the bench? That’s ridiculous.
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It's not even the fact that Colvin is rotting
Its the fact that we now have Montanez, Snyder AND Colvin all sitting, while a light hitting INFIELDER gets starts in left field.
Honest to god, there is simply no other team in major league baseball that would be run like this. It is mind numbingly idiotic
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
We are in complete agreement.
You’re right BTW, I try to stay neutral, in part, simply b/c I think this edition is far beyond any simple fix. It’s becoming almost laughable.
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
And Soto hits eighth behind DeWitt and Campana!
What a joke.
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Great, ain't it? swl hit it on the head...QIAFI
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
But if Soto batted in front of Campana, he'd just clog the bases.
Quade’s a genius!!!!!
by Jody Jody Davis on May 31, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I miss Don Baylor
Never thought I’d say that.
by Josh Timmers on May 31, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
At least Baylor
had the common sense to play Mark Bellhorn and bat him leadoff.
by Josh Timmers on May 31, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
isnt it fairly standard
to give a player, on a callup that day, the night off to get situated – usually?
We have two other outfilders sitting on the bench right now.
Why not give one of them a start?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, I don't think so.
Though Quade sat Soto his first day back, so maybe it’s one of Q’s Rules.
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QIAFI
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to ask...because I'm not hip anymore
What is QIAFI?
www.facebook.com/craighudak
by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Quade is an (effing) idiot
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
With Soriano out, I predict...
…these next few weeks will be the best stretch of baseball the Cubs will have played all year. Let’s face it, Soriano, despite his 11 home runs, is a complete cancer in the Cubs everyday lineup. I feel with him swinging at every ball between him and the dugout (particularly with runners on base), the rest of the lineup becomes despondent. With more athletic, energetic, young hitters with far more upside, will infuse some much needed hope not just into us fans, but the Cubs themselves. This game is more psychological than most fans realize, and Soriano is psychlogically draining to this ball club.
I hope you're right...
and I don’t even mind the reasoning. I’ve hated Soriano’s hacky style of hitting since he was feasting on fastball with the Yankees.
More athleticism and more youth indeed!
Well it wont really be any different with Colvin.
Him and Soriano are pretty similar in plate approach.
I'm no Soriano apologist.
But I think you’re wrong here.
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I think he's onto something with...
the approach. It’s the kind of approach that a professional lineup absolutely hates. I’m not sure it can spread like wildfire, but I do hold out hope they might show something a little different with him out of the lineup.
He bats 7th for chrissakes...
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So?
There’s worse hitters in the lineup…no doubt…but Soriano’s approach to hitting has always been a turnoff for me. It’s just extremely hard to take a hitter seriously when after 10+ years the same sliders that got you out as a rookie are the same ones that can get you out now.
So yes, I’ll admit I’m a little biased here.
So his flailing away at the plate, like he's done his whole career...
…..effects the psyche of hitters 1-6? That they become “despondent” over his approach?
Bullshit.
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It's probably a little tiring to watch...
but yeah I’m willing to call it bullshit too. I’m not going to argue against what you’re saying all that strongly.
I'd be more despondent watching Pena face a left hander. LOL.
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This is more of your half baked attempts to be funny right?
So, Quade’s managing is perfectly fine, but Soriano underperforming is having a negative affect on the entire lineup?
This has got to be the most backwards logic I’ve ever seen.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
As usual you have everything I'm saying down to a tee.
Anyway, anyone want to explain how the lineups most highly paid hitter unperforming ISN’T going to have a negative effect on the lineup? Because he hits solo HRs and no one else is hitting HRs at all? I guess.
You should be used to backwards logic.
You're assuming Soriano's contract ...
and mediocre performance has a psychological effect on other Cubs? How?
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In most organizations...
…whether baseball, basketball, football, business, whatever, a weak performer is either disciplined, booted, kicked out, or the like. However, whether we like it or not, in baseball, there are guaranteed contracts that must be fulfilled. The only form of accountability is to trade an underperformer. Unfortunately in Soriano’s case, there is no accountability, and in any organization, this a death sentence to the whole place. Quade won’t bench him, Hendry won’t trade him, thus, the word despondent is wholeheartedly the unfornate byproduct that spill all over the rest of this team. Make sense?
How in the name of god, can you pinpoint Soriano as the one
causing this despondency? (Not that I actually buy into that nonsense)
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
No energy, same mistakes...
…and no accountability for them. Picture yourself being another player on this team, and seeing this guy swing at horrendous pitches, play bad defense, run like a 50 year old, and look as patient as a NASCAR driver at the start of Daytona. Does THAT make you want to go the extra mile each and every day? He’s a weak link with a gigantic percentage of the payroll that is too big to overcome. But the Cubs are still the most classic team to watch in all of baseball. It’s just going to be a few more years before there is hope.
and seeing this guy swing at horrendous pitches, play bad defense, run like a 50 year old, and look as patient as a NASCAR driver at the start of Daytona
I’m being completely serious when I say there are at least five other guys on the team you could pin that too. Again I ask, how can you possibly pinpoint Soriano as the cause?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
…that Pena is less than average, but at least he knows pitch selection, plays good defense and seems a leader. I agree Soto has been below average, although he plays decent defense and shows good pitch selection. I agree Fukodome has weakensses with offspeed pitches, slumps as season goes on, but he plays good defense and has very good pitch selection. I agree Byrd is average, especially with runners on base, but hits for reasonable average. I agree Ramierez has lost his power and is getting worse defensively, but hits for good average and has good pitch selection. So point is, all of the rest of the Cubs have some good and some not so good qualities, but Soriano is horrendous in all categories. I certainly don’t give him marks for hitting solo home runs, losing the left field “hop” or finding massive height in his “winning outfield end of game body bumps”.
None of that outlines why the other players would be affected by his play
rather than someone else sucking.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, look,
I realize there is no objectivity to this discussion, there is no way to back any of this talk with concrete fact. My only subjective sense is…think back when you were on a team, with an obvious weak link. What did you do? Maybe sit him, hide him, politely encourage him to not be on the team anymore. The Cubs can’t do it with Soriano. He is bad, and he exhibits horrendouse baseball traits. Would that then make you, as his teammate, want to rush out and play hard and do well knowing this guy is a complete drain on the lineup, and will be for the foreseeable future? I think the Cubs, in Soriano’s place, will be better, even if it is DeWitt (which I agree with everone is a bad choice). They will be better because there will be new energy to breath life into the rest of the player. A subjective view for sure, but I again believe the Cubs will play their best baseball with this guy on the DL. Even with the rest of the team weakened by injury.
It would make sense if Soriano were making $18 million ...
and everybody else was shopping at Aldi. Or, if every other member of the team didn’t get playing time because of him. I suppose your theory might work for Colvin or someone else blocked by Soriano. But I doubt it.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Reading your posts, I am definitelty getting used to backwards logic.
Do you think the rest of the lineup looks at Soriano’s performance and goes “man, if our highest paid hitter can’t do better what are we to do?”
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep...he means more to this team than people realize...
just because he appears to be “loafing” doesn’t mean he is. That man’s knees are gone. This DL stint may be a good thing. He might come back rested and go on one of his tears and catch the eye of an AL team………….or not.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
No, Soriano means about as much to the lineup as most people realize.
He just doesn’t hurt it the way the OP theorizes. He’s not Milton Bradley.
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He's sure chastized like he was sometimes, tho.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
He's incredibly frustrating to watch, Ed.
While he hasn’t had a terrible year offensively, his pros don’t outweigh his cons. And the fact that he’s only going to get worse for another 3+ seasons is sickening.
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Yep...
but who’s to blame there? Should Soriano just tell them “Hey, I’m not the same guy I was when you signed me, so, let’s just forget about the rest of the contract. Thanks anyway”?
I believe he does his best with what he has left to offer. The next 3 years will be sad to watch.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
He could retire.
While I know that isn’t realistic, it would be about the best thing the Cubs could hope for.
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Sad but true
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
And walk away from $50M+...
would you save face and do that? I wouldn’t. I’d tell them they could cut me a check for half of what they owed me and then do it, tho…but, I’m just a nice guy.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
I know. It's unrealistic.
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It falls into the same issue with how the Cubs value players
While most teams were getting more SABR oriented and putting value elsewhere. The Cubs signed Soriano to that huge contract because
-He was fast and athletic
-He swung hard and could add a few HR’s
-He was a big name that they could sell to an angry fanbase
Problem was that he was always a flawed ballplayer. Never did he play defense of take any pitches.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
While I will not participate in a discussion ...
about who is to blame for Soriano’s contract, I don’t disagree with what you said at all.
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Plus he could hit leadoff and play center!
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Oh boy....
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How do account for the absolute dumbass that is managing the team?
How will his energy affect the team
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolute dumbass?
Wow you people are really stretching now. So silly.
How about complete moron?
The guy is so far over his head we stopped measuring the depth
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Hard hitting analysis as usual bro! Quade doesn’t know what he’s doing and if he did we’d be in the firstest of first places! Champions of the World even!
by SenorGato on May 31, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
piss poor reading comprehension as usual bro!
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd for
“firstest of first places!”
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by SouthWabashSoul on May 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Play the Colvin!
Something something Quade sucks.
Finally you say something intelligent
“Something something Quade sucks.”
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
DER AND SO DOES HENDRY!~
HENDRY SUX 2!
I’m moving up!
What you just posted
is far more intelligent than thinking Soriano’s approach at the plate is somehow weighing the rest of the lineup down.
Never mind that if that was actually true, it would mean Quade is still starting him DESPITE THAT. How does that work into your “Quade isn’t the problem” nonsense?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it really that big of a deal that their trying to build DeWitts trade value somewhat?
I’m sure Colvin will get plenty of time.
Is that what they're doing?
You think teams were absolutely not going to trade for DeWitt but now that he can ALSO be a light hitting corner outfielder, we’ll get something of value?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
This team isnt winning anything anyway, so whats the difference?
It’s not like Colvin is some sort of real option for the future.
And there's the dumbest argument yet.
Why not play Hill in left. We can boost his trade value
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much the same thing.
G’damn you’re good. DeWitt IS like Hill!
Bobby Scales!!!
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that you mention his name, I'm really surprised he didn't get the call
by Jody Jody Davis on May 31, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I'd prefer that than having Colvin rot on the bench.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Agreed.
And FWIW, Sacles is OPSing .882 at Iowa this year.
by Jody Jody Davis on May 31, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be less shocked if he did...
Because Blake DeWitt is just a Bobby Scales wanna be. :)
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
No it doesn't
No contending team is going to trade for a middle infielder who can’t really field his position BECAUSE he also can NOT hit in left field.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Right.
The only way this works is if DeWitt also starts really hitting. And, while that’s possible, he’s also learning a new position.
Essentially, Quade is doubling down — betting DeWitt can play the position AND improve his hitting. But why would you double down with Blake DeWitt?
Worse, why would you do that AND call Colvin up to rot on the bench when what he needs is at-bats?
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by elgato on May 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Word.
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by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Truly ...
I wouldn’t be that upset if Colvin didn’t just end up in the SAME situation the Cubs sought to remedy (what?) three weeks ago by sending him down. I could live with DeWitt over the other guys.
But calling Colvin up and sitting him on the bench — despite lj’s claim with no evidence that he will start — is maddening.
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He's not going to rot on the bench people
Colvin WILL get plenty of time. DeWitt will also be used once in awhile. It’s really not a big deal.
Damn why is every decision life and death around here?
How do you know that Colvin will get plenty of time?
Source?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Why would he not? DeWitt was said to be playing for Soriano, unitl he went to the DL.
Then they immediatly call up Colvin. You are seriously angry about nothing. Colvin will get playing time.
I'm wondering if you'll admit you're wrong...when you're wrong
or whether you’ll just deflect.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you're honestly wondering that.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
You're right, I know what he'll do.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
More than you ever do I'm sure.
You really need a life dude.
deflection already I see.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yes I think you are.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude. You realize this is ...
exactly what people — what I! — said about Wellington Castillo when Soto went down. And, in that instance, Quade hadn’t said that Hill would get the majority of the starts at catcher.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Who cares about the backup catcher?
Quade knows Colvin MAY have more potential than DeWitt. Colvin will play enough.
I'm talking about when Soto got hurt.
Hill then was MORE than the backup catcher. It’s pretty much the same situation.
Soto/Soriano hurt.
Castillo/Colvin better options.
Hill/DeWitt become fill-in starters.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Got a response for this, LJ?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
How do you know Colvin will rot on the bench, You still havent told me that.
And who cares if Castillo or Hill plays, They both are terrible.
Because Quade said DeWitt would get the majority of the playing time.
Didn’t he?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
When they were already talking about putting Soriano on the DL
You think Quade went “oh yeah! we have Colvin!, never mind then!”
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing it was Hendry or Quade convincing the other to bring Colvin back.
Which one? I don’t know.
So, wait.
They’re negotiating each other, in the media, about player personnel moves? That’s what you’re saying?
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Then, what?
If they were still figuring it out, why did Quade make the comments he made?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I'm guessing they didnt know Soriano would be put on the DL.
So they planned on using DeWitt. Then when things were worse for Sori, they called up Colvin. Now maybe they’ll use him more.
What "stuff"? are you referring to?
A major league team having three outfielders on the bench while a second baseman plays left?
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Until Quade or Hendry ...
confirms your thinking, all you’re doing is giving them the benefit of the doubt when they haven’t earned it.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I'll remember that you said that.
Because this is almost exactly what happened with Soto, Hill and Castillo.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Give it a few days.
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by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is that funny?
You realize it will take a few days to prove either side right or wrong. El and I are basing our opinions on at least one instance that mirrors this one.
You are basing yours off of “just cuz”
either way its going to take more than the five minutes you’re apparently prepared to wait to see the outcome
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take that.
You’re giving Hendry and Quade the benefit of the doubt re: Soriano. You’re saying that they didn’t know about the extent of his injury when Quade said DeWitt would get starts in left.
You have no way of knowing this. And your reflexive defense of those two makes you seem more hopeful than logical.
I will retract if a) Colvin gets more than a start a week or b) Quade amends comments that he didn’t have to make.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I suppose not.
But you’re going out on a limb to defend Quade and Hendry when Quade’s comments — without any other context or amendments as yet — would seem to prove you wrong.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I suppose ...
Quade said that figuring that Soriano would be day to day. But if that’s the case, why start DeWitt tonight instead of Colvin?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Oh, ease off.
I wanted to know what you would say.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I get tired of alot of the terrible games the Cubs play in Wrigley...
and you know what I do? I don’t go or watch them on TV.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
THERE IS FAR TOO MUCH SENSE WITH THIS POST
In the spirit of LJ, SenorGato, and this thread, I demand MOAR NONSENSE
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by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I just...I don't even...
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It's actually death or life around here
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
DeWitt has no trade value
…and playing him in LF certainly doesn’t INCREASE it.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No one else will play him there.
Unless we trade him to the Astros or Orioles.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Common sense says they won't
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, because the Yankees are looking for...
….a converted infielder who’s played 3 games in LF.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he'll have about 17 before Soriano returns
But otherwise, this whole “raise his trade value” nonsense is hilarious.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
What universe
are you living in? This IS the Cubs and Quade is the one making out the line-up. If you think he’s going to give Colvin plenty of starts, I believe you are in for a rude awakening.
Wow.
I think we’re officially at Threat Level Midnight.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
by elgato on May 31, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This Colvin banter is worthy of a completed trade
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe, just maybe, it's just me...
But dosen’t it seem that the tension level is running a bit high here on BCB lately? Now 99% of us are far too old to be given advice by anyone (except for Mom n Dad…never too old for that…), but maybe we gotta step back, take a breath and relax? Afterall, this is just a game, our chosen “hobby”. And, sadly, on these pages, in the end…we’ll solve nothing…
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
I though the best part about the Cubs stinking it up so bad was....
There’s nothing to stress about as a fan!!!!! The games don’t even matter!!!! Haha.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Cold Beer Here!
"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.
by RiskyBusiness on May 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Right! Can you imagine if
it was late Aug-Mid Sept and we were only 1-2 games in front or behind!? OMG!!! I see death threats from one BCBer to another!!! :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
.....
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that Tom Brady?
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Dreamy enough...
for me. :)
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Most people expected this team to be bad.
No one can magically make the players better. But some of the decision making has been comically stupid this year, which is something the manager can do something about.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
It's gonna be Hatfields and McCoys in the game threads tonight.
Think I’ll take up knitting.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
ha
I have started teaching myself how to code and design web pages rather than follow the game threads
You'd better be working on lazymanstats.com, hans.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
hahahaha
that is my 1st project after my crappy 1st site…start a whole chain of lazyman related sites…
You're killin' me Hansman!!!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Haha!
Now I know you’re lying!!! Knitting is far too complex for most of us here!
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
Hell, I may stay away from the GAME
until the 8th inning. It will reduce frustration
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hello Nunya
Worked for me yesterday! I watched, left, returned and…voila! Another embarrassing loss was reaching its final phase! BUT…no pain, well, only about 1 1/2 innings or so…
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
A diving catch by DeWitt in LF will make heads explode...
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on May 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I said this earlier.
Here’s how the reactions will go …
If DeWitt plays well: “It was only one game!”
If DeWitt plays badly: “It was only one game!”
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
We all know if he plays poorly it's going to be alot worse than
“it’s just one game.”
That would be a very chill reaction, but it’s not going to happen.
If he plays poorly ...
you, LJ and whomever else Hendry has hired (kidding) to post here will say it’s only one game. I’m saying THAT will be your line.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
If he does poorly I was planning to talk about how he ate my pet bunny,
and of course shared it’s heart with Mr. Quade.
If he does poorly, you'll just say how everybody here whines too much, SG.
Or that Colvin wouldn’t be any better, etc., etc.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
The crux of my whole argument was that...
Colvin is no better than DeWitt! How could I forget! Thank Jah you were here to add more words to my mouth!
I’m hoping DeWitt tanks so I could show everyone how right I am.
Huh?
I’m saying that you reflexively defend Mike Quade and his House of Horrific Managerial Decisions. Anyway, we were predicting what might be said — so I thought there was an exception to the no-words-in-mouth rule.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I defend Quade because...
Anyone who had any common sense going into the year knew he was a sitting duck. The roster wasn’t that strong, he’s a no name guy, and they were AT BEST a little better than a.500 team if things went really well. Pretty much everything that can go wrong has gone wrong, and predictably the finger went to Quade.
He did get the job because he got alot of credit for last year’s wins so I guess it’d balance out. One has to wonder what’s changed soooo much from his managing late last year to this year….Probably players playing worse, but surely they play worse because he’s managing the pros worse, right? It’s a cycle of bs basically…Pick and choose who you want to blame and just whale away. Now I’m rambling so I’m going to gtfo. A pleasure as usual elgato.
And yet, absolutely no one claimed Quade was going to lead us to a World Series
as you have been told over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, the problems with him are that his decisions are really effing dumb an awful lot.
I didn’t watch the team much once he took over last year, maybe he’s always been this dumb and I shouldn’t have been surprised.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It's already been pointed out repeatedly
the difference between managing last year, and this year, and every time that is pointed out you choose to ignore and respond with something ignorant and obtuse, or intimate that Nunya is picking on you. I almost feel bad for Nunya, because in this situation he’s Randal from Clerks, left to deal with a few mouth breathing customers that refuse to leave the store. It’s an unwinable scenario for him, and yet he tries anyway, for what I can only assume is our amusement.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
“
for what I can only assume is our amusement.”
And my own
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Al's preview will be, well, interesting.
Two years of trying to be optimistic about this team, Lou checking out and Quade making batshit crazy decisions. I wonder if Al misses his old job yet. :)
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
He always finds...
the proverbial “Silver Lining” in it all. Tough job. I’m not sure I could stay all that positive every single day.
I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981
Excuse the tangent but I'm still amazed that Al counts as optimistic here...
No offense Al, but rarely do you leave out an opportunity to knock whoever’s in for a knocking.
Stop whining!
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
B...but...we would have gotten away with the pennant...
if it wasn’t for Mike Quade and his dang kids!
Seriously, No one is saying that.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
not within miles
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
That is the ridiculous.
No one’s saying anything 10 miles from that.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Give us one example of this being said....
just one.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say the pimping of guys like ABD/Diamond/Ortiz/Montanez/Snyder for the sake of
slightly better immediate returns…IF THAT…would be a good example, but that’ll get shot down somehow or another. Plus, it’d take alot of time that…lets face it…no one cares to give up.
Honestly, on things like this my best bet is to keep my mouth shut. It’s not going anywhere or doing anything for anyone anyway.
That would get shot down
because it makes no goddamn sense.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it'd just take too long to explain to a whole bunch of people who don't want to hear it, including the author.
Either way, it’s not going to end the Season of Tears.
People saying they wanted someone other than Russell starting seven times
means they were saying we’d win the pennant if their wishes came true?
The conclusions you are jumping to are ridiculous
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Anymore ridiculous than pining for guys like the guys I listed above?
Not to me. Not to me at all sir. I’d rather watch Russell bomb 162 times this year than have to sit through one start from most of those guys, no matter how many games below .500 we’d be and could blame on him.
Oh and there WERE posters who, after Russell’s 4th loss, noted that the team was 4 games below .500. Therefore….Yep…
For what has to be the 117th time
wanting someone else does not equal thinking someone else gets the team the pennant.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Wanting bad players up for the sake of maybe slightly better performance...
Maybe I’ve mischaracterised it…who cares…Apologies to anyone butthurt by what I said…I barely meant it and it’s now going to drag out for no reason.
Did you steal this apology from Tom Ricketts?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
At leas you can admit you spew utter bullshit
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on May 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
??????????
Oh and there WERE posters who, after Russell’s 4th loss, noted that the team was 4 games below .500. Therefore….Yep…
This is your evidence? This is what your tinfoil hat helped you decipher as to how the totality of BCB feels about the 2011 Cubs missing out on the pennant?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
How in the name of butt-sex is that connected to us losing or winning the pennant?
those guys were only talked about after the 2nd or 3rd FAILED Russell disaster.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont you get it!!!!!
Lopez did sooooo much better then Russell.
And Davis and Coleman have wrecked sh*t in the good way!
I know I know….this season has very specific people you can point at and go THATs the guy!
This isn't even in the realm of what we're discussing....
and also this is funny coming from the guy who just whined about being tired of having to put up with snarky comments.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 31, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Not snarky
Just true. You people complain about Russell and beg for a guy like Lopez instead, then Lopez does worse than Russell and nobody says anything. It’s fucking hilarious.
Aaaaallllrighty then...
I attempted to defuse some tension here…I failed. But, just to show I’m a good sport, I’ll see yaz all ‘round game time. Until then… I’ll be at home…Cleaning my guns!!! :]
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
hahahahah
Consider some tension diffused. At least from me.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Ok my friend.
Seeya tonite if at all possible. After Shoe n Tim yesterday, and I like em both, things getting on towards nasty here sometimes.
I didn't understand the "white-collar Cub fans", "blue-collar Sox fans" until much later in life. Harry Smith~ "For Cubs Fans Only".
I have no comment on that, Jeff.
But take it easy. :)
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I cannot stand to read any of these comments anymore
My head almost literally hurts from reading some of the bullcrap and I feel dumber for it. I can only asume Bruce outsmarted us all, created two sock puppet accounts in SenorGato and lj, and is driving us naysayers away. It says a lot that in the grand scheme of things, I’d rather see NBF than some of the others showing up.
Oh, Colvin, awesome. Too bad he isn’t starting. Bummer.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions
I'll take Bruce a million times over some of these other posters.
At least he succinct.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I can almost respect Bruce in how narrow minded
he can be in his approach to this team. I mean, that guy…That guy is all in on this team, and at least there is a breaking point for him with this season. For everything else that’s been said by The Others, man, there’s nothing redeemable there.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The Others are definitely a frightening bunch.
They’ll keep coming at you, logic be damned.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Then let that be their name
The Others. They will be barefoot now, haunting us with this inane comments, and later on it will be revealed that it was all an act and they’re just creepy, deadly folk marching to the beat of an imaginary man.
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by Craig in South Bend on May 31, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
This Lost comparison is much more accurate than it has any right to be.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
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