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Cubs, Carlos Zambrano Stifle Dodgers, Win 5-1 For Winning Roadtrip

At last, the Cubs' top two starters have put together back-to-back outstanding starts, and guess what? The result, a pair of convincing wins over the Dodgers, including today's 5-1 Cubs win, gave the Cubs a series win, a winning roadtrip at 4-3, and a split of the season series with the Dodgers.

Feel better now?

Carlos Zambrano was dominant this afternoon, wearing the baggy road uniform that was officially dated to 1944 (although the Cubs wore essentially the same style from 1943-1956, as you can see from this display from the Hall of Fame's "Dressed To The Nines" page). I liked the look of the uniform and would love to see the Cubs do another throwback day as they did in 2008 when they wore 1948-style home uniforms. Big Z gave up just five hits, walked one and struck out five in eight solid innings, posting his fourth win and lowering his ERA to 4.23; he also got a hit, which gives him hits in four of his seven starts this season.

Star-divide

Speaking of hitting streaks, as we actually weren't, Andre Ethier was scratched from the Dodgers lineup with "left elbow inflammation", so his hitting streak remains at 29 games. Elbow trouble seems to be surrounding the Dodgers, as Jonathan Broxton is now down with the same ailment (although, for him, it's his right elbow, the pitching one). The Dodgers started a makeshift lineup today that included Aaron Miles leading off and a 26-year-old non-prospect rookie named Russ Mitchell, who started at third base and wound up in right field.

Also great to see today was Carlos Pena smashing a home run for the second consecutive game (maybe, at last, he's out of his slump) and Marlon Byrd hitting his first home run of the season, with two runners on base in the sixth inning to break open a close game. Geovany Soto also homered off his former battery mate Ted Lilly to provide the rest of the scoring. The only sour note was a couple of TOOTBLANs, Jeff Baker getting thrown out trying to stretch a pop fly that dropped between two Dodger fielders into a double, and Aramis Ramirez inexplicably taking off on a steal attempt (missed sign, perhaps?).

Sean Marshall finished up with a scoreless ninth in a non-save situation. It was Marshall's 14th appearance this season; he has allowed only one earned run and his WHIP stands at 1.08. With Kerry Wood and Carlos Marmol forming an excellent setup/closing duo, and Jeff Samardzija now throwing better, if Cubs starters can continue getting games to the seventh and eighth inning... maybe a winning streak can happen. Even with poor performances by many hitters and all the starting pitching woes, the Cubs are only two games under .500 at 14-16. The upcoming homestand, all against tough opponents, will be an excellent indicator of the way the rest of the season may go.

This is the first time the Cubs have won a series at Dodger Stadium since April 17-19, 2006. I suspect you remember well what happened in the last game of that series, a 5-4 win; that was the day Rafael Furcal crashed into Derrek Lee and D-Lee's wrist was broken, ruining his season and starting the tailspin that wound up in a 96-loss campaign. Perhaps this series win can trigger better things for the rest of 2011.

Enjoy tomorrow's off day -- you can bet the Cubs will have an enjoyable flight home.

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No mention of the baserunning gaffes?

They didn’t affect the outcome, but they were quite bad and worth mentioning, no?

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on May 4, 2011 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I kind of forgot about those with the win.

But really, the Cubs have to do better on the bases.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

But not Sori's - the ones that set the Twitterverse ablaze :D

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I ain't cryin'

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You really will overlook almost anything as long as they win.

I’m glad they won, but the terrible base-running is embarrassing.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 4, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is.

They need to fix that. However, I’ll take the win. Won’t you?

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that is what you said

clearly…

…I’d rather had them lose with perfect baserunning…

not taken out of context or anything

by hansman1982 on May 4, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm not asking that.

Sounds like you’re trolling, though.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would expect nothing different from you.

But no, I wasn’t asking that.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Politico or the Huff Post was to take a poll on the SWL & Al feud,

numbers would show a consistent trend of increased tension.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

what color is it on the Threat Warning Scale?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 4, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lou Piniella Senile Sienna

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

this week?

confetti

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on May 4, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worried about Ramirez

But good win.

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 4, 2011 5:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Loved the unis

Hated the caps. I know it’s “authentic” but I still dislike the Reds-style C representing the Cubs.

Other than that (and some idiocy on the basepaths), great game.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I kinda loved the hats.

And I got to get me one of those undershirts.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on May 4, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those caps were worn by the Cubs in several World Series.

It’s only a “Reds-style” C because the Reds are now wearing it. The Cubs did so long before they did it in Cincinnati.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I’m just far more partial to the 3/4s circle version. I like the bear cub with bat logo, as well, but not this one. It’s just me, though – not ragging on anyone that likes it.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

"You like me! You really like me!"

so sayeth my avatar…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 4, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

why not call it the Bears Style "C"

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 4, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Think of it as "Bears-like"

After all, they wore that style “C” cap for a long time. Looking at it as a Reds cap misses the antiquity. The Reds wore a “C” much like the Cubs in the late 50s and through the 60s. You wouldn’t call the current “C” a Reds “C”…

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 4, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That may be why I don't like it...

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep forgetting there are other NFL fans here.

In any event, Pete Rose wore a “Cubs-like” C at the beginning of his career with sleeveless, pinstriped uniforms with a white cap and a red bill.

Anyway, that’s the point that Al and are are implying.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 4, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

ROFL

Should I be glad I missed the game today?

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 4, 2011 5:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Reds wear an old style Cubs "C", the Cubs weren't wearing a Reds "C"

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on May 4, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ain't that the truth!!

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on May 4, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Numbers may not lie, but they don’t tell the whole truth (and nothing but the truth), either. -- Doug Glanville

by leothelip on May 4, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not our bloody fault the team sucks!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

they're a better offensive team

If Pena hits a home run every day (that’s all that we ask)

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on May 4, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Debbie Downer here

Our #3 hitter hit his 1st HR in game #30.

by salparadise23 on May 4, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

and if he hits one more...

he will be tied with adrian gonzales….

i see your point, but it is also as you say, game #30. lets see how they do in the days of summer and how they close this season out…

not to be cliche, but its not how you start, but how you finsh

They both (stats & bikinis) show a lot, but not everything. - Infielder Toby Harrah

Poster formerly known as Wrigster.

by bilbosbuttons on May 4, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually... its both
not to be cliche, but its not how you start, but how you finsh

Some people like to believe that a win in September is bigger than a win in April, but for every game you lose in April, thats another that you have to win late… so it is how you start and how you finish.

by dmlichte on May 4, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

and who cared if we dont hit another HR all season

if we win out. The 2005 Astros had 12 HRs before September that season…..

/sarcasm

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 4, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I so hope you are right... I've had the gut feeling this team, with a tad of luck, could go places,

despite the weaknesses we all know and groan and moan about.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 5, 2011 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good outing for Big Z

and the offense comes alive to plate 5 runs . I wont complain about the baserunning since they got the W !!

by cubs north on May 4, 2011 5:17 PM CDT reply actions  

translation: beatiful game, beautiful [redacted], beautiful day

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on May 4, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

English please.

I couldn’t make that on my iPhone.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 4, 2011 5:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

For anyone who watched the game

How did Iassogna’s strike zone look? Gameday showed it to be…inconsistent. How was it on the TeeVee?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Listened on the radio

Nobody mentioned it at all really.

by salparadise23 on May 4, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah; if you would've told me Peña would hit HRs in consecutive days

I would’ve laughed and openly mocked you.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on May 4, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe it's the warm weather.

It was pretty hot this week.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie" -- Tony Montana

by calicubfan on May 4, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a nice way to

spend the afternoon. Go Cubs!!!

I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.

Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -

Stacey King

by sue369 on May 4, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Wasn't the temp in the mid 80's today?

Maybe that got our homerun bats going.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on May 4, 2011 5:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes.

Unfortunately, it’ll be a while before it’s 80 in Chicago.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

High 60s this weekend!! I can hardly wait!!

Luckily I spend next week in New Orleans, where the low is 87.

by bdlugz on May 4, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably right around 90

At 1015 last night leaving the ballpark it was a robust 71 degrees. Simply gorgeous.

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good use of "robust"!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT fantasy baseball

I’m looking for some opinions. Should I trade Victor Martinez for Gaby Sanchez Logan Morrison and Sam Fuld? I’m really stumped on this! Help:)

by bleedinblue76 on May 4, 2011 5:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Sam Fuld straight up for Victor Marinez is a steal!!!

Getting two other players too makes it way way way to good to pass up. Sam Fuld will be the AL MVP after winning the triple crown and taking the top ten spots in ESPN’s web gem list. And he’ll probably get two or three wins or saves to boot. And then successfully mediate the NFL mess. And I hear he’s fixing the space shuttle in his spare time -

by doofus cubs guy on May 4, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

lmao gee thanks for the help lol

Anyone who plays fantasy baseball care to chime in?

by bleedinblue76 on May 4, 2011 5:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Impossible to say without knowing your needs...

What does your team look like? What is your biggest hole? What is your scoring?? What stats matter to you?

Yes, don’t not do please pursue this not trade dont.

by bdlugz on May 4, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have some anchors: Dunn,Soriano,Stanton. I’m last in SB’s. So I wanted to drop some anchors for speed.

by bleedinblue76 on May 4, 2011 7:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no, no

you need to weigh anchor! If you drop anchor, they make you stop!

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol! yeah I do!

This is my first time ever playing fantasy league baseball. I’m in 7th place over-all lol. I have amazing pitching and the rest of my team is average at best with no super stars.

by bleedinblue76 on May 4, 2011 9:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like to play the waiver wire

and find the guys who are on hot streaks…ride each one of them out – I had Fuld up until yesterday

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

You also have to factor in who you'd be getting rid of to balance up after doing this 1 for 3 deal...

…as well as taking into consideration whoever your new catcher is. Last I checked, Fuld has not put on catching gear this year. If he did though, they’d no longer be called the tools of ignorance…

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by ballhawk on May 4, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Jed Lowrie still available? He’s eligible at three positions and is now an everyday starter.

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by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun game fun game threads

Nice to have some fun

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

And we found out who Milton is.

I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.

Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -

Stacey King

by sue369 on May 4, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't that cool?

he sure seemed credible

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by Emelie on May 4, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes he did.

I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.

Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -

Stacey King

by sue369 on May 4, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's made the claim before

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/8/18/596182/off-day-fun-milton-outside#8189769

But he hasn’t really been heard from since. We asked for photos then, too. I’d like to see if he has any he can show. It’s somewhat fascinating to think that we may be able to get some history of our favorite BCB meme.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember that thread.

Hopefully he will provide us with some photos.

I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.

Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -

Stacey King

by sue369 on May 4, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe Gwynn led off an not Miles

Who cares we won.

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Carlos Mendoza opps I mean Pena

I know that I’m not the only one but how does he sleep at night with the money he makes compared to how he is playing .at this rate he will probably hit 6 homers and bat .186 at end of season all for 10 mil WOW I could probably do as well and for a whole lot less

by blackhawksal on May 4, 2011 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

im sure $10mill can get you some good sleeping pills

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by jesus christos on May 4, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You tell 'em, Sal.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on May 4, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll bet you 500 BCB bucks he hits over 20 HRs this year.

And still bats right around .200….

He also sleeps on a giant pillow stuffed with cash. It feels better than the feathers.

by bdlugz on May 4, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

you couldn’t.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on May 4, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ill fit this in here.

I yelled at Andy Lane last night as I was sitting by the RF foul pole and this was right after the game he was walking with Tovar. I yelled about how his brother was posting pics on here etc and congrats to him. He smiled gave me a little nod and then proceeded to, what I thought, throw a ball to me instead it landed 10 feet in front of me in the hand of a pretty brunette. Cannot win them all!! But he is getting the idea.

Seemed like he was enjoying himself for sure.

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 5:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't get to see today's game

Byrd, Pena Soto all hitting bombs? is this for real? It isn’t April fools day or anything. Nice road trip Cubbies, keep it up.

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by TBru on May 4, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

it was great to hear the HR calls today on the radio too.....nice game,

also I learned something new today :)

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by cooliogirl47 on May 4, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The power is back for Pena!

I fully expected his first HR to barely make it out of the park – or go off the outfielder’s glove – but he gave those two balls a ride. Nicely done…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on May 4, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

The one last night - I was sitting right near the bullpen where it landed

It was a missle

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"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip

by Hammer on May 4, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Chicago Cubs: Adventures in Baserunning.

The line of the day:

CS – 1 (2nd base, A Ramirez)
Picked Off – 1 (1st base, A Ramirez)
Outfield Assist – J Gibbons: 1 (J Baker at 2nd base); T Gwynn: 1 (A Soriano at 2nd base).

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by SackMan on May 4, 2011 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Sori

also didn’t run out a pop-up to be on 2nd. And bobbled a ball to give Aaron Miles(of all people) 2nd base instead of first.

He should have been pulled for Reed.

by salparadise23 on May 4, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hitting 11 HRs a month allows you to get away with stuff like that...

…fair trade off.

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by Easy Ed on May 5, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

ehh

I’ll trade his shoddy defense and baserunning skills for 66 homers a year

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

nooo...really?

Soriano is here to stay with all of his flaws, get used to it, accept it and it will make your time here more enjoyable…

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, let's not whitewash his failings, either.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on May 5, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be shocked if he hit 40 this year.

But if 80 percent of them are solo shots (9 of 11 have been this year) …

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on May 5, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

it would be nice

and maybe that is why leadoff worked for him for so long…here’s to 2015!!!

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I, for one, fully support this proposal.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Basketball obviously, but the point still stands...
Boozer was signed last summer to a five-year, approximately $80 million contract, which conventional wisdom says makes it that much harder to justify benching him.

“Where does it say that because you make so much money, you have to play if you’re not producing?” Grant said.

"There had to be a place where the game could be fun again….that place is called Wrigley Field"---Andre Dawson

One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth. Joe Garagiola

by epsilon on May 5, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It all depends upon what you are clutching...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 6, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

ARam trying to steal 2nd

It was the best laugh I’ve had all week.

Honestly, what on earth was he thinking? He has Mark Grace speed.

by salparadise23 on May 4, 2011 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

A-Ram now has 15 career SB, 15 CS.

Grace once stole as many as 15 in a season.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jae-Hoon Ha

Homered off of Carlos Silva tonight.

by Josh Timmers on May 4, 2011 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know whether to laugh...

… or laugh.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!

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by SackMan on May 4, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must have been a " Ha Ha" moment.

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on May 4, 2011 6:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha Ha!

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 4, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

makes me laugh...

hehhehe

They both (stats & bikinis) show a lot, but not everything. - Infielder Toby Harrah

Poster formerly known as Wrigster.

by bilbosbuttons on May 4, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just love to be proven wrong!

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by Emelie on May 4, 2011 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Darn it.

Can’t believe I missed it. I love those uniforms. Would have really enjoyed seeing this.

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on May 4, 2011 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

WHAT TIME DOES THE GAME START

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by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Left Coast game

Probably at, like, midnight.

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by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's great that Soto, Pena and Byrd are finally hitting.

But, really, I’m happiest that Z has figured out how to be a good, drama-free pitcher. Consider how much the Cubs have invested in him for the next two years, that’s just huge.

I bet Z (relatively quietly) wins 17-19 games this year. And, really, considering where he was 11 months ago, that’s very, very praiseworthy.

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by elgato on May 4, 2011 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

why play then?

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by ballhawk on May 4, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

as am i.

I’ve decided not to be serious until the Cubs start getting serious.

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by ballhawk on May 4, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

2014

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by Archie on May 5, 2011 7:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

For Z, they're not worthless.

We’re talking about a guy who would let one inning destroy him. The fact that he’s calm and cool and staying in games longer — and not getting suspended — is significant.

I do get the point you’re trying to make, and I would agree in most cases.

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by elgato on May 5, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

they are a worthless

retrospective stat…for me when I see someone say a pitcher will win X # of games I see that as a grade of how he will do

Win 20 games – Ace of the league
17-19 – Ace of the staff
14-16 – Good
11-13 – Average
10 or fewer – look for replacement

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Starting pitcher wins are less meaningful now than ever.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greinke is getting roughed up

4ip and 4 earned runs.

Garza> Greinke?

Ya it’s way to early, but I think they’ll have similar stats by the end.

by Mitchener on May 4, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

And the Brewers are about to get swept.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reds fan here with a question

I’m going to be in town on Saturday for the Reds-Cubs game. My wife (somehow, a Cubs fan) has never been to Wrigley. We’re staying downtown and will take the Red line to Addison for the game. But afterward, we want to go the Barnes & Noble on Webster Street.

So the question is….would it be easier to take the Red Line to Fullerton and then hop a bus….take a Red Line to Fullerton and then hoof it (seems like a long walk), or just bite the bullet and grab a taxicab.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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by cesarhernandez on May 4, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

You could buy a CTA day pass

And take the train to Fullerton, do your thing, and then hop back on the train to get up to the Addison station.

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by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the CTA is pretty efficient

Even with the buses?

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by cesarhernandez on May 4, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

"How often does the train go by?"

“So often you won’t even notice it.”

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by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And I just looked at the CTA website

You can buy a one-day pass for $5.75. That’s pretty cheap to get around. We’ll have our car, but we’d rather avoid driving in the city as much as possible.

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by cesarhernandez on May 4, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent idea on both accounts.

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by fsuapollo on May 5, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously, though - that B&N is a bit off the CTA tracks

Your best bet will probably be train to Addison, and then bus from stadium to Irving Park. Jump off at Ashland and Webster, hit the B&N and then grab the next bus back to Irving Park. Take the Blue Line back to the Loop.

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by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh - never mind

I got turned around. Your original idea is gonna be easiest – Red Line to Fullerton. If it’s a nice day out, you may want to walk down a station or two to avoid stadium train traffic after the game.

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by Clutch16 on May 4, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok thanks for the help!

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by cesarhernandez on May 4, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The buses are not great

but the Fullerton line ( #74) is one the better ones. You should not have to wait more than 15 minutes. Is there someone you need to meet there? Not sure why you would want to go to that one as there are several close to park and downtown.

Good luck

PS guys. I have limited posting ability. I hurt my left hand and have to cut back on typing for a while.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 4, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was a kind of "cubbie fan occurance

I have had a cold since I went to the Sat 23rd big comeback game. I went out Monday to get some chicken soup, tripped for no reason, fell hard on the concrete and tried to break my fall with my left hand. Six X rays later they determined nothing was broken but there was a contusion, So since I am right handed and only injured I can continue to play though of course I will only be around 25% and it will slow down my healing. So a perfect Cub (fan).

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by Doggie Stalker on May 5, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beaming out healing vibes to you, Jessica!

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by Emelie on May 5, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Get well soon!

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 6, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure why you would want to go to that one as there are several close to park and downtown.

Actually, no. A lot of the others have closed in recent years.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well there is big one at State & Elm which would be a lot closer

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by Doggie Stalker on May 5, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Closer to where they are staying and not so far out of the way

You can easily hop off the Red Line at Division, walk a few blocks , get what you want at B&N and then hop back on the subway. No slow and sometimes unreliable bus required.

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by Doggie Stalker on May 5, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

CTA

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by dtpollitt on May 4, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whenever I'm there I cab it

But what do I know, I live in L.A.

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by BeerCub on May 4, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eithier's Hitting Streak

When I was 12 years old in September 1969, I was at Dodger Stadium with my dad for this game:

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-thoughts/post/_/id/12999/when-willie-davis-streak-was-on-the-line

The next summer, July 1970, my dad and I were present for this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29i1oZWhI9I

Is it any wonder I have been a life-long baseball fan?

by azjazzman on May 4, 2011 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice games!

I’ve never seen anything remotely close to those. Add to this the fact that nearly every baseball game is merely a matter of trial and error. Meaning that if something historic happens, you can’t plan to be there when it happens beforehand.

I think my uncle may have been to a no-hitter in Dodger Stadium as well, with his father when he was a child. I’ll ask him.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 4, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

july 1st 1990 i saw the Yankees pitch a no hitter at Comiskey and lose to the Sox

box score

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by Cubbie-Tim on May 4, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link to Scully's no-hit call,

in which ex-Cub Byron Browne makes the final out. Browne’s career was short, but he did manage to appear in a couple of Dodger Stadium no-hiiters in which he made ninth inning outs – this and the Koufax perfect game against the Cubs in 1965.

Like Browne, I’ve also seen a couple of no-hitters in person:

The Ecstasy –
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN196005152.shtml

and, The Agony –
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN196508191.shtml

I’ve been to at least 300 games since the Maloney no-hitter in ’65, but the only near-miss I have seen since then was by David Wells against Oakland at Yankee Stadium in ’98, when Wells saw his bid for a second perfect game that year end on an eighth inning single by Jason Giambi.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA199809010.shtml

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by ernaga on May 4, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Byron Browne

made an out in the 8th inning of Koufax’s perfect game, but not the 9th.

Browne was pretty bad when he played for the Phillies (on some really bad Phillies ballclubs), but the main thing he is remembered for is that he was a part of the trade between the Cardinals and the Phillies that wound up with Curt Flood testing the MLB reserve clause.

by azjazzman on May 5, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was Brownie's first major league game...

…Also making his big league debut was Don Young (Ronnie always knew that kid was bad luck). Apparently Manager (Head Coach) Lou Klein thought that using the Wenatchee lineup would improve the Cubs’ chances against Koufax.

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by ernaga on May 5, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hadn't realized...

… the Cubs were using two players making their MLB debuts that night.

The Dodgers were in a tight pennant race with the Reds and Giants (which LA eventually won). The Cubs were 16 games out of first place. Could it be that Klein knew they had no chance vs. Koufax?

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clemens & Landrum, the two lefty-hitting regulars they replaced,

probably didn’t mind a day off when Koufax was pitching. Besides, the Cubs were playing out another lost season – maybe the most disappointing of any in the Terrible Twenty.

Who knows? Maybe suffering nearly back-to-back no-hitters by Maloney and Koufax convinced Wrigley to pull a publicity stunt that actually would help the team by hiring Durocher. We can imagine Leo putting in a call to Phil after this game Durocher spent coaching third for the Dodgers.

In any case, as we know, the Cubs haven’t been held hitless since those ‘65 classics, a record-breaking streak. Thinking along those lines, let’s hope Dusty doesn’t tempt fate and decide to give Chapman his first start this weekend.

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by ernaga on May 5, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE: Maloney & Koufax

I understand WGN has a videotape of the Maloney no-hitter, and occasionally has shown portions during Cubs rain delays. Have you seen clips of this, and do you know if any part is available to the general public?

Also, although the famous Vin Scully ninth-inning call of the Koufax gem is available on-line, do you know if a tape of the Vince Lloyd/ Lou Boudreau broadcast of this same event has surfaced?

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by ernaga on May 5, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe any tape of the WGN radio broadcast of Koufax's no-hitter exists.

I have never seen the Maloney videotape. Would love to, though. I’ll make some inquiries.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Al...

I understand the tape includes a great live commercial by Brickhouse and Lloyd Pettit for Waldech Beer, done in the classic manner of Harry Creighton, Jack’s sidekick in the early and mid-1950’s.

Back then, during the 7th inning stretch for both Cubs and Sox broadcasts, Creighton would perform a live spot for Hamms that would end with Harry pouring himself a schooner and raising a toast to the WGN-TV audience.

Of course, various codes prevented him from actually drinking the beer on live TV, but as the broadcast image cut to the playing field, the only sound in your living room would be the crowd cheering as Harry tested the product. As you might imagine, this informal ceremony was often the highlight of Cubs broadcasts in that era. Unfortunately, the tradition ended when Vince Lloyd took over as Jack’s sidekick in 1957.

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by ernaga on May 5, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we didnt always have

quasi celebrities promoting something stupid during the 7th inning stretch?

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by epsilon on May 5, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inevitably, there will be a Baseball Restoration...

…where third-rate celebrities will be banned from the Harry Creighton / Ron Santo Memorial broadcast booth, and an ice-cold 12 oz. cup of Waldech can be had for $3.

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by ernaga on May 5, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll sign that petition!

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by epsilon on May 5, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

The closest I ever came to seeing one in person was an almost perfect game by Jerry Reuss

at Dodger Stadium when he was pitching for the Dodgers against the Reds. Leadoff double then retired 27 in a row.

Mezzanine level box above 3rd. Back then people used to have radios in the stands listening to Vinny. Pretty great experience.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN198206110.shtml

by patches23 on May 5, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen over 2300 major league games.

I’ve got two no-hitters. Z’s in Milwaukee in 2008, and Jack Morris’ no-hitter over the White Sox on April 7, 1984. Like Liriano, Morris walked six. He walked the bases loaded one inning and got out of it with a double play.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

the first baseball game my son went to

was the first combined no-hitter in Nashville Sounds history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nashville_Sounds_no-hitters

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by epsilon on May 5, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

2300 Major League games?

And I thought that you’d been watching the Cubs all of those years. (bah dum bah)

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by vonde6 on May 5, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've really enjoyed the last two days listening to him

MLB @ bat is awesome! I haven’t had many chances to listen to him. Incredible!

by Madison Cub Fan on May 4, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

So at first I thought the Dodgers were in a road uniform

though the Dressed to the Nines site suggests that in 1944 (and only 1944), the blue uni with “Brooklyn” on it was worn home and away.

That would explain why they picked 1944: much more interesting to have “Brooklyn” on the uni… the white home Dodger uniforms of the era aren’t radically different from today’s.

by ChipSet on May 4, 2011 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, that explains it.

Thanks.

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by Al Yellon on May 4, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like how the Brooklyn Dodgers' baseball cap

Is now effectively a Red Sox baseball cap.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on May 4, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I noticed in Baltimore...

…a few years ago that White Sox caps are common.

I wondered about this. Why would many Baltimoreans wear the caps of a league rival?

It turns out the modern White Sox cap greatly resembles the cap worn by players of the Negro League’s Baltimore Black Sox in the 1940s.

Then it all made sense.

by allyngibson on May 5, 2011 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox have worn caps like that....

… since 1933, so they actually predate the Brooklyn “B”.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uniform minutae

The Dodgers uniforms were based on the satin-blue uniforms they wore for night games in 1944. The thought was that the satin would shine under the lights.

As for the Cubs jerseys, I never understood how anyone though that a jersey with a giant frown on it was a good idea. Not a fan.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on May 5, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could get Amazon to sponsor a redesign

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by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said at the beginning of the season...

…the Cubs aren’t that great on paper, but they have a chance in a bad NL Central. People laughed at me, but I still think it’s true. I think they win 2 of 3 against the Reds. Glug glug glug.

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by cubswynn on May 4, 2011 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey

Save some kool-aide for the rest of us…

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on May 5, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh...

…and why does Cubs.com say Dempster is pitching Sunday? I’m assuming that’s an error, right?

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by cubswynn on May 4, 2011 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Now I'm confused.

Should this ruin my day because I thought it was Thursday or make my day because Russell is getting skipped? I’m thinking the latter.

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by cubswynn on May 4, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

GreAt game by Z.

Seems like were going to get a good year from him. Looks like he’s changed his approach a little and calmed down

by SenorGato on May 4, 2011 9:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Good win.

“Z” looks sharp. Saw the highlights, 81 mph curveball, great goodness. Maybe he has figured it out after all of these years, change speeds etc..
 Fingers, toes, and arms crossed for Pena to get warm.
 Beat the damn Reds this weekend.

by Grockcubs on May 4, 2011 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

8 and 1, my second favorite pitching line

1 walk by Z and that didn’t come until 1 out in the 8th inning.

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by RiskyBusiness on May 4, 2011 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Tampons

Yes, those WERE tampons the players were wearing in the clubhouse, and a few others had panty liners. They were not sick, and did not have diarrhea. In fact they didn’t know they were leaving oily brown spots where they sat, as they felt no cramps or anything. Players had been blaming each other for crapping all over the benches, and two of them had to leave games due to brown spots on their seats that were NOT the color of infield dirt. My clubhouse contact is checking this out, and I will most likely have more tomorrow.

by Edelweiss on May 4, 2011 11:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Writing

No, writing completely random incoherent thoughts does not make a worthwhile post. The Cubs won… let’s hold back from the awful attempts at humor for awhile (probably permanently for you).

by bdlugz on May 4, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

He (?) was actually following up

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/5/3/2151305/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-dodgers-tuesday-5-3-9-10-ct#66327859

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by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 5:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That only makes it worse...

The fact this was premeditated is sad. He had hours to realize how awful the “joke” was, and failed.

by bdlugz on May 5, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go out on a limb here

And say that it’s not a joke, or at least the poster doesn’t think it is. My “sick humor” meter is usually fairly finely calibrated, and this isn’t pinging it.

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by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ewwwwwwwwww

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on May 5, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dreaded this game early

Simply because I saw those two early baserunners who got thrown out on bad plays as costing us two runs. Sori would have went to third on Pena’s flyball and scored on Zambrano’s, and Baker would have come home on Pena’s home run. I’m so conditioned to this team being offensively challenged that I saw two potential runs off the board and thought that killed their chances.

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by NobodySpecial on May 4, 2011 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, what a great day!

First the Cubs won their 2nd ballgame in a row, giving them a winning road trip and series win over the Dodgers. Then the Bulls won, evening their Eastern Conference Semifinals Series at 1-1 with the Hawks. Next, the Cardinals lose 8-7 to the Fish, meaning the Cubs are only 2.5 games out of first place.

If we can go 4-2 against the Reds and Cardinals, I’ll like the position we’ll be in.

Lets see, that sounds like a great day to me. Am I missing anything? I guess I could throw in the White Sox losing, although that has nothing to do with us. Bin Laden is deader than he was yesterday. Don’t have to worry about him. Z is 4-1. I like. I really hope the Bulls can nab game 3 from the Hawks by the way…if they can do that it will put the pressure back on the Hawks.

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by mikegncb34 on May 5, 2011 12:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I liked the Cubs' uniforms. I like the win even more.

The TOOTBLANS were not so hot.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 5, 2011 2:25 AM CDT reply actions  

good

thing the cubs held onto big z after last seasons mash up.if the pitchers and hitters can start producing on a consistent basis then we should be able to contend. but so far they have shown they cannot play good ball on an everyday basis. they need to figure out the 4&5 situation. coleman cant hold a lead and the team never scores enough runs for him and the 5th spot forget it. but maybe the warmer weather might help .lets hope so.going on 3 yrs without a postseason visit.

by NOMAR on May 5, 2011 5:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Anybody see that Quade actually said something to Soriano for being lazy?

It was in the Tribune this morning……

He said they talked about it…..What would have made a bigger impression would have been Johnson pinch running for him. I guess he makes too much money for that, though. What if that had been Castro?

Somewhere, Husker is asking “What’s the big deal?”

by TJ11 on May 5, 2011 6:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Not ever lack of hustle demands that the player be sent to A ball and subsequently dropped

The fact it’s being publicly acknowledged as an issue and dealt with is a step in the right direction.

by Danwood on May 5, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

He had to find something to bitch about.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on May 5, 2011 8:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

You are right, its ok to not hustle!!!

Then making it worse by getting thrown up on the next play made it so much better….

by TJ11 on May 5, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

You got me again.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on May 5, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to see this is being discussed between Quade and Soriano...

as for if it was Castro or Q taking more drastic measures with Soriano/ARam….I think managers treat their veterans in a slightly different manner. Especially Q being so new himself. Lou might have gotten away with a pinch runner. I don’t blame you for bitching, it can be as frustrating as Castro’s errors are to some people, but even more so to me because you would think these vets would know better. Go Cubs!

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by cooliogirl47 on May 5, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, really?

You’re saying that people arguing with you on a fan site is worse than young ball players getting being negatively influenced by the unwillingness of management to correct poor play by veteran players?

That’s kinda messed up – are you an AI that considers the Internet his home and strangers’ differing opinions to be the debris that must be cleansed? ’Cuz that would explain a lot.

Can you tell me what words are represented in this picture?

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

Are you a Rami and Sori excuse maker too???

by TJ11 on May 5, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't answer the question

Is disagreeing with you about hustling a worse crime than simply Not Hustling (or enabling of same)? And what are the words in the picture?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He couldn't get the words in the picture

I think that you have exposed him as a bot.

Who would have thought that TJ’s act could have been pulled off by a bot!!!
Who would have thought that TJ’s act could have been pulled off by a bot!!!
Who would have thought that TJ’s act could have been pulled off by a bot!!!

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by vonde6 on May 5, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ortiz gets first win

explain to me again why we need him throwing in AAA and not takeing the ball every 5th day? At least he seems to have mastered the Livan Hernandez school of pitching to contact.

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by RTGrules on May 5, 2011 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs don't need a fifth starter again until May 14 due to off days.

Ortiz appears to be on target to pitch that day. Most likely, it will be in Chicago against the Giants.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good team to get a start against too.

Their offense is similar to what he’s facing now, especially with Sandoval on the DL.

by bdlugz on May 5, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good

Good for the Cubs. Good for Pena. Good for Byrd. Good for Z.

I’m not sure Pena is out of the woods but signs of life are encouraging. HIs confidence sure seemed to soar after Tuesday’s game and if that is what revives his bat speed, I’m all for it.

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by krummy12 on May 5, 2011 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I think

the reports of his demise have been greatly over-exaggerated

by hansman1982 on May 5, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zambrano tied the Cubs record for hit batters yesterday

I was hoping to put together a fanpost on this, but don’t seem to have the time – but, Zambrano’s HBP against Juan Uribe yesterday was his 89th, tying Kerry Wood for the Cubs all time record form plunks thrown.
So the question now is, will Zambrano take the record in his next start, or will Wood seize it back? Who will be the first to hit 90 batters for the Cubs?
They’ve both hit 14 opposing 2nd basemen making that each of there favorite position to plunk, and they’ve combined to hit Craig Biggio 5 times (3 for Wood, 2 for Zambrano) and Rickie Weeks 5 times (2 for Wood and 3 for Zambrano).

by plunkeveryone on May 5, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Z's going to get more innings

I’d assume he’ll take the lead for good before another month passes.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on May 5, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the Cubs plunk leader for 2009+10 combined was Carlos Marmol, and he threw a lot less innings than Zambrano. Marmol led the team in 2009, and finished 2nd in 2010
So it may still be a question of who wants it more.

(okay, really Kerry Wood just doesn’t hit people at anywhere near the rate he used to… I’m just trying to build the drama)

by plunkeveryone on May 5, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Craig Biggio is retired.

And Wood is going to throw about 1/4 as many innings as Z this year. The record is Z’s.

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

Yes, it would. Think the Cubs can go 29-8 in their next 37 games?

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by Al Yellon on May 5, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ask me again if we go 4-2 in the next 6!

Last thing, I completely forgot that was the game where they won on the HBP: http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?ymd=20080612

Don’t think that’s happened since. Clearly remember it, but forgot that was that game!

by cgial on May 5, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking it now that you said it...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on May 6, 2011 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barney

Darwin is a heck of a ball player and I love what he’s doing with the chance he’s earned, but he looks really fruity in that pic at the top of the post.

THIS IS THE YEAR!

by CubsPanthersTarHeels on May 5, 2011 3:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Not mentioned here is the emptiness that was Dodger Stadium

Yeah, it was a hot day. They announced 28K, it looked more like 15K. The outfield pavilions were empty as I haven’t seen (when I was a kid) since the Angels played in Chavez Ravine.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 5, 2011 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

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