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And thus it ends, with the traditional "whimper". He won't play major league baseball again.

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I'm shocked. Shocked at this development.

I’m sure no one saw this coming.

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by Emelie on May 9, 2011 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

...

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. -J.R.R. Tolkien

by Emelie on May 9, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Let the record show his final MLB at-bat (most likely) was a groundout in yesterday’s game.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw where Wedge had to go out and restrain him

arguing a ball-strike call the other night.

Sad, sad, sad story. I hope he can find peace someday.

by Not Bruce Froemming on May 9, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

A whole lot of coin given up in the last two months

between MB and Carlos Silva – gotta love the MLB union!

by doofus cubs guy on May 9, 2011 1:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait......you're blaming the union?

Because a couple of GMs signed those two to really stupid contracts?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on May 9, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotta love the MLB union!

Yes how dare those greedy players steal money like that from the rich old white guys who own the teams.

by Wreckard on May 9, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually....

the players are technically stealing the money from us, the fans. Take a look at your ticket price and tell me I’m wrong.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on May 9, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why I don't buy tickets.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on May 9, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confused.

Are the people who are handing out these ridiculous contracts somehow OBLIGATED to do so?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on May 9, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you understand how a business works.
Take a look at your ticket price and tell me I’m wrong.

You are wrong.

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

Do you think these rich guys just pay the players out of their own pockets?

Or do high ticket prices come in part because of the large contracts?

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by Al Yellon on May 10, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure high salaries contribute to higher ticket prices

But the claim that this means that players are “technically” stealing the money from is ridiculous. It’s not like these teams are breaking even every year, passing every cost they have onto us. They pass the cost on to keep their margins up.

And if they’re “technically” stealing from us the fans by getting paid for a contract that both sides agreed on, they’re also technically stealing from Under Armor and Toyota, who contribute millions in revenue with their signage, and WGN and Comcast Sports Net, who contribute money with their TV deals, and the MLB itself, who contributes via revenue sharing.

Saying the players are stealing from you is as silly absurd as those people who yell at city workers and say “I pay your salary!”

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Saying the players are stealing from you is as silly absurd as those people who yell at city workers and say "I pay your salary!"

To take this a step further – getting angry at the players for getting paid what they’re owed is exactly as dumb as getting angry at government workers for “wasting” tax dollars with their salaries.

In both cases you should be getting angry at the people who made the decision to spend that money – the GM in the case of the former, your legislators in the latter.

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stealing?

Of course it’s not stealing. But the ticket prices do pay a fair chunk of the salaries.

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by Al Yellon on May 10, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, so you're agreeing with me then?
Of course it’s not stealing.

What are you even disagreeing with me about here?

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not.

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by Al Yellon on May 10, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on May 10, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love how you always come in with snarky responses

but never really stick around to reply when somebody disagrees with you. But hey this is a message board, so to each is own.

Another classic from the always classy wreckard!

you should just stay over at the obstructed view……

by magicblue on May 9, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I defend my point of view all the time around here

There are a lot of valid criticisms that can be leveled against me, but I’m not sure this is one of them.

Another classic from the always classy wreckard!

Now this is a valid criticism. In an effort to class up my posts I will now post wearing a top hat and monacle.

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is there an argument against Wreckard's comment here?

Or are you just making a snarky response, then not sticking around to reply.

by lj121711 on May 10, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing is if he had been hitting .300 he probably would not be DFA'd

and even if he were someone would take him. It was his behavior that got him, it was that he was playing very poorly. Exactly the same thing with Silva.

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on May 9, 2011 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

SIGN THIS BEAST!!!

For the shortest of moneys!!!

by SenorGato on May 9, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Gonna kick the tires?

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by Clutch16 on May 9, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Truly.

He’s really a troubled guy with a lot of issues. I hope for his sake he reaches out for some help.

by MDavis on May 9, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

I laughed.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll also help us get more left-handed.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whenever I see "DFA'd"

I always read it as “DIAF.” (for those who don’t know what it is DIAF )

I spend too much time on this series of tubes.

by Arbusto on May 9, 2011 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

It's true Milton does have some major issues.

But It’s also pretty sad how the group here is happy about a person losing their job. I hope he gets help and makes a good comeback.

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

IDSWYDT

‘cause I’m not reading them either…

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by ballhawk on May 9, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh, well, let's see

under the standard mlb player agreement, he still gets paid every dime he’s owed. He just doesn’t also get to come to the ballpark, play poorly, disrupt team chemistry, blame everyone else for his problems, and generally make an ass of himself.

I don’t think we should shed any tears here for him just yet.

by Orval Overall on May 9, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't hate Bradley as much as some do around here

But, well, he kinda deserved it.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on May 9, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he gets help.

Comeback? Extremely doubtful, as he hasn’t been any good in three years and is 33 years old. Players like that don’t often get another chance; add the other issues and I can’t see a team wanting to touch that.

I do hope he gets help so he can have a productive post baseball life.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

This makes you're point of view a little more clear.

You’re original comment, "And thus it ends, with the traditional “whimper”. He won’t play major league baseball again." seemed alot like smug satisfaction.

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, he was a jerk.

If you want to celebrate go ahead. I’d rather wish him the best and hope he gets better.

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I guess I'm not sure what you're getting at with you're comment.

I said Al’s comment seemed like smug satisfaction, and you’re response seemed to imply that that was how we should feel. As if you were reveling in Milton losing his job.

If I read that wrong, it was my mistake. If I read it correctly, then…..whatever man. Hope it makes you feel better.

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I was saying...

… was that this was a real quiet exit (“not with a bang but a whimper” – TS Eliot; not trying to be smug but literary), and that I don’t think any other team will pick him up.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if he doesn't?

I’m sure Milton’s life will be just fine for him. Millions of dollars tends to ease most people’s stress. He’ll figure it out.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Millions of dollars tends to ease most people’s stress. He’ll figure it out.

According to his bb-ref page, he has made over $35 million in his baseball career. Doesn’t seem to have made him a happy person.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is that within 5 years -- 10 tops

We’ll see a little blurb somewhere that he has filed for bankruptcy

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on May 9, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are on-field antics representative of poor spending habits?

I didn’t realize that there was a correlation between being a jerk and not knowing how to handle money.

In fact, judging by the people I’ve met in the finance industry I’d say that correlation is inverted.

by Wreckard on May 9, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being a train wreck is.

And it’ll be someone else’s fault

"It's all in the game, yo"

by Worf on May 9, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is this based on?

What makes you think Milton specifically will go bankrupt?

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's interesting to me...

I initially ran off about 50 million in my head. Cots has him for about 47 million over the MLB portion of his career. Wonder why the discrepancy with Baseball Reference?

by Damen Jackson on May 9, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nevermind...

They seem to have his annual salaries right, but never updated the totals for 2011.

by Damen Jackson on May 9, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, that makes sense.

So it’s $47 million. Even more money, even less happiness, apparently.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No matter what the total is...

This guy got paid a king’s ransom to play a kid’s game…and folded under the pressure. I wonder how he’d do trying to feed a wife and 2 kids on $25-$30K a year? Point is…he’ll never have to find out. MB is getting the last laugh.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd probably do as well as most others with that salary.

I see no reason to think he wouldn’t know how to take care of his family. Do you?

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

He damn sure would not have lasted on any other job,

based on his on-the-job-behavior, as he did in MLB. I know that I, teacher, would have probably been canned after the first display of such.
Being unemployed makes it hard to care for a family.

by daily2b on May 9, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh? A calmer job setting?

He was playing a kid’s game for crying out loud. He was making gazillions of dollars doing it. How much more of a FUN job could anyone have? Really? There’s a fine line between having “mental disorders” and being “a couple puppies short of a full pet shop”. He thought he shoulda been worshiped. He thought he shoulda been treated better than all the rest. If bad things happen to him that he coulda controlled…well…c’est la vie.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was playing a kid’s game for crying out loud.

I don’t know very many kids games where success or failure can mean a difference of tens of millions of dollars.

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He already had his 10s of millions of dollars...

he already succeeded…no matter how he performed, that guy is set for life…or at least should be.
 The pressure in this game is on guys like Colvin and Barney and Castro…they’re here…they’re making the minimum…they MUST produce in order to stay so they can get those contracts worth 10s of millions of dollars. If anyone has an excuse for cracking under the pressure, it’s guys like them.

I laugh at guys like Bradley who makes MORE in one year than MOST people will make in 7 or 8 lifetimes and then complain about how hard it is for them…HA!!!! Poor baby. Can’t handle it?…then don’t do it anymore. Go away…and stay away.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I can't help you with this crazy working-class resentment you have built up here

You hear all the time about guys signing huge deals and putting immense pressure on themselves to live up to that obligation. Certainly the expectations of the 30,000+ fans watching every single thing you do are different if you’re making millions versus making thousands – just look at the way that the fans treat Soriano, as opposed to the similarly undisciplined Colvin.

But hey, don’t let me talk you out of this crazy notion you have in your head about how much fun their job would be and how you’d totally be above it. Just remember that the fastest way to make something stop being fun is to get paid to do it.

by Wreckard on May 10, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then don't do it...

…it’s really that simple.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes you're right

They should walk away from millions of dollars and use those other life skills they developed by skipping college to play baseball.

by Wreckard on May 11, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

You really don't understand do you?

Just because these guys get paid alot of money does not mean the pressure is suddenly off. These guys are some of the best in the world at baseball. It takes alot of work to keep that up. If you don’t think that’s pressure you’re kidding yourself.

I don’t know what your problem with the player salaries is, and I hate to be the one to break it to you, but they’ve earned it.

by lj121711 on May 11, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure it does.

99.9% of players who play here take criticism, booing, etc. when they are going bad and don’t blame everyone but themselves.

So who’s wrong? Everyone else, or the player involved?

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by Al Yellon on May 10, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just when I thought I was out . . .

Booing a surly, poor performer is not “piling on”.

Writing that Bradley threw a tantrum, if indeed he did, is not “piling on”.

by Shanghai Badger on May 10, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

In your opinion, he didn't

He threw plenty of them during the season, which is what I was getting at.

Sullivan didn’t write that he threw a tantrum – he said he went ballistic. He didn’t? Can you prove it?

We’re supposed to take your statement as fact with no evidence. I’ve been trying to make you see that this isn’t going to work.

I once had dinner in Shanghai with Keifer Sutherland’s first cousin. I can’t prove it, but you’re going to have to take my word for it. I was there.

Similarities – we’re making the same kind of claim, and no offense, but about as many people care about that dinner as what happened in that spring training game.

by Shanghai Badger on May 11, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

And no you didn’t address my question.

by lj121711 on May 10, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...of course it's NOT...

…but, if they can’t handle it…then QUIT. Screw that “I’m in a dark place BS”…if they can’t deal with it then walk away, but, leave the money behind.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah, you're right...

especially the people who have the “good life” placed right in front of them and don’t see it OR appreciate it. No sympathy here. He had choices…he made the wrong ones. Too bad…so sad.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all...

naive much? lol

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 10, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see many folks here jumping with glee

Just noting the obvious, and acknowledging the likelihood that his career is probably over. There’s a difference.

And let me say, just as an aside, even if they were, I hope that you can appreciate that the career of a professional athlete is not a “job” in the classic sense. Just thinking off the top of my head, Milton has made a good 50 million in his professional career, putting him into the ranks of what most consider the uber-wealthy. Not that I mind, he earned it mostly, but this isn’t John down at the grocery store we’re talking about here.

by Damen Jackson on May 9, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not suggesting we cry and feel sorry for him.

I would rather the fans not stoop to the level he was at when he played here. Just because he was a jerk doesn’t mean we should respond the same way. Especially when he’s been out of here for almost 2 years already.

by lj121711 on May 9, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Text - Yo Milton

If you’re free, how about dinner and a movie this week? I’m up for Thor. Carlos Silva.

"Easy on the words, brother,'' Quade said.

by RiskyBusiness on May 9, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't care...

People wanna extend sympathies to this guy? “Poor Milton”…“I hope Milton gets the help he needs”…“Milton has problems”…MEH!!!

Have him sit down and write a check for about half of what he’s made over the past 5 years, and donate it to charity or just give it back to the teams who gave him the chance while putting up with his disruptive ass and let him make a statement like “I’ve let alot of people down with my behavior and I’m totally ashamed and would hope this check helps. Divide it amongst the teams I’ve duped or just give it to the charity of said teams choice”.

Until that happens…good riddance.

I, for one, hope the new CBA has a clause put in that protects teams from deranged individuals like this guy. A 3 strike clause. You screw up 3 times during the same contract, then contract id voided…no matter if it’s with defferent teams. Babying these guys does not help them.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

id=is ... defferent=different

Typing with prescription sunglasses on doesn’t work very well.

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't care...

People wanna extend their sunglasses wearing to times when they need to see a computer screen? "Poor EasyEd"…"I hope EasyEd gets the sunglasses he needs"…"EasyEd has problems seeing with his fancy prescription sunglasses"…MEH!!!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on May 9, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

ISWYDT...

well plyed

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

played...

I give up

I've come to the conclusion that the two most important things in life are good friends and a good bullpen. ~Bob Lemon, 1981

by Easy Ed on May 9, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol..

who didn’t see this coming?

"It's easy to do what's ordinary, it's difficult to do what's deemed impossible -- I guess that explains why my life is so hard, because nothing is impossible for me"

by Unique on May 9, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Finally DFA'd?

He’s been a Dumb F##%$# A-hole for a while now…don’t know why it’s news now?

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by Fukudometer on May 9, 2011 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

It's amazing that the Cubs got the better end of that deal.

Not by much, but at least Silva got 12 wins AND they ate part of his contract.

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by cubswynn on May 9, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Well bye..

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by Fat Punk Kicker on May 9, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Honestly, I'm more surprised that it took

the Mariners this long to DFA Ryan Langerhans…

The guys been barely at or below the Mendoza line seemingly since 2005, yet somehow is still in MLB.

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by tripdenten on May 9, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

who knew seattle-ians were so racist?

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by jesus christos on May 9, 2011 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I have no idea

why some feel like there must be a lesson in everything. The Milton of the world have been around for a long time, and those around them rarely if ever learn to avoid them. But thanks for the writeup. Seriously.

Although I will say I fell on the floor at your suggestion that Raul Ibanez and Bobby Abreu were better bets at the time. Abreu? ABREU? Hell man, you’ve been calling Abreu done since before Christ served the last supper, and now you’re saying he’d have been the right signing? Every year you tell me Abreu is done, and every season he drives in another 100 runs. Even last year, he was still as drive in as many as Bradley during his career season. Now you’re on the Abreu bandwagon?

And don’t even get me started on Ibanez, who you seemed to throw up a little bit in your mouth over every time his name was mentioned during that off-season.

by Damen Jackson on May 9, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right about what I wrote at the time.

Obviously, I was wrong about those two. 20/20 hindsight and all.

I was in favor of Adam Dunn at the time. As awful an outfielder as he was, the bat would have helped.

And as I wrote in the post, the Cubs’ best option was just keeping Jim Edmonds.

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by Al Yellon on May 9, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

People that aren't good at their jobs, destroy relationships, and leave a wake of anger should be unemployed.

Add that to to the $45,000,000+ he made in his career and I feel no pity.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on May 9, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

and

the sad part.a guy like this retires a multimillionaire.

by NOMAR on May 11, 2011 5:14 AM CDT reply actions  

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