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Phillies 7, Cubs 1: Same Old Story

It's really getting old, writing this over and over and over again. Feels like Bill Murray, a huge Cubs fan, should be hosting this "Groundhog Day" scenario.

How many times have we seen this now? The Cubs give up a couple of runs in the first inning -- partly via shoddy defense -- then come close to catching up, although even at 2-1 this game never seemed close.

Then the bullpen comes in and puts the game out of reach. I guess there's one different story today -- the bullpen failure was partly Sean Marshall's. Marshall has been excellent this season, and until today had not allowed a run on the road since August 29, 2010 at Cincinnati.

So there's that, then. Something new, even if it's not good..

Otherwise, same old thing: Cubs starter throws pretty well -- Matt Garza put up a quality start, throwing five good innings after the shaky first -- but the offense could do almost nothing against the opposing pitcher. Give credit to Cliff Lee, who is very, very good and showed it today in throwing eight strong innings and giving the Cubs just four singles and a walk in the Phillies' 7-1 win over the Cubs.

Star-divide

The Cubs have been outscored 48-23 in going 2-7 on the first nine games of this road trip. Since Marlon Byrd got hit in the face in Boston on May 21, a day the Cubs won to stay 5.5 games out of first place, the team is 5-14 and been outscored 101-66.

This is not an excuse, but that is what happens when you put what is essentially a Triple-A team on the field. With Tony Campana, Tyler Colvin, DJ LeMahieu, Lou Montanez, Doug Davis, Rodrigo Lopez and Casey Coleman on the roster, the Cubs have seven of 25 (more than a quarter of the roster) comprised of players who should be playing in Iowa, or Tennessee, or should be on the waiver wire.

Some teams can take injuries by having replacements who come in and are capable major league replacements. The Cardinals, for example, haven't missed a beat this year despite losing key contributors like Adam Wainwright, Matt Holliday and Lance Berkman for significant lengths of time and having to play Albert Pujols at third base. Hasn't mattered.

The Cubs do have good prospects in the system. LeMahieu may eventually become a good major league player, but we're not going to find out when he pinch-hits every other day. The rest of the decent prospects are at the lower levels; you wouldn't want them to be in the major leagues now.

Injuries aren't an excuse, but at least when this team was healthy, they were hovering closer to .500. Pat Hughes remarked today that the 3-4-5 hitters in this afternoon's lineup -- the guys who are supposed to be the "meat of the order" -- had combined for four home runs.

Maybe when all the disabled Cubs come back, they can at least win a few games and not look quite so pathetic. It won't make any difference in the result of this season, but it will at least make Cubs baseball more fun to watch as this summer goes on. We do, at least, have the possibility of being able to see Derek Jeter get his 3000th hit at Wrigley Field next weekend. Jeter is nine hits short of 3000 and the Yankees have five more games left on their homestand before they arrive on Friday. The last (and only) player to get his 3000th hit at Wrigley was Stan Musial, who did it in 1958. Of course, we hope the Cubs can beat the Yankees, but seeing a milestone like that would be pretty cool.

In the meantime, Doug Davis faces Roy Oswalt in the roadtrip finale Sunday. Doesn't leave much room for hope, does it?

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Man O Man!

Let’s give DJ LaMahieu a start please. Put DeWitt at 3rd and have someone who can hit RH play at 1B when we face a lefty. I know that’s not much of an upgrade, if any, but at least try something different o shake things up.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jun 11, 2011 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Might as well start LeMahieu tomorrow.

He’s going back to the minors when Jeff Baker is activated Monday.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 11, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd go with this lineup tmrrw:

Castro SS
Lemahieu 2B
Dewitt LF
Ramirez 3B
Pena 1B
Soto C
Colvin CF
Pitcher
Fukudome

Try it out and see what happens.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 7:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

They ought to let the beat writers pick the lineup.

How much worse could it be?

Or draw it out of a hat.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 11, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Quade had Z leading off one game

I would not even register a surprised gasp.

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by VegasCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

scene:

Z rumbles into Quade’s office. Quade looks up from his coloring book and claps hands, " Hey Zyzzee!"
“I’m playing Right field today and batting lead off, " the big Venezuelan states.
“Okey dokey, Carlosey, be sure you tell Fukey!”
“You do it.”
“That doesn’t concern me but I will do as you order.” Quade quails quickly.
Quade thinks to himself, “Who will bat third today…I know…Hilly can.”

and scene

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by VegasCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here... you'll need a movie poster

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jun 11, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just not Sully, Gordy, Brucy, et. al.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 11, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't trust the beat writers.

I suspect we’d see more of the aaaa guys.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 8:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Due up 8-9-1

Go gettum DOME – 2 down

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who is the mystery RH hitting 1B?

It’s easy to make up players Quade should be putting in the lineup…

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have been screaming

to give DJ a start. Goodness this team is going no where and Q still runs out the same.

by Grockcubs on Jun 11, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team is going no where

and Ricketts still runs out Kenny
and Kenny still runs out Hendry
and Hendry still runs out Quade
and Quade still runs out a roster full of scrubs

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"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry

by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

First, and second BTW!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jun 11, 2011 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

What's amazing is that they scratched a run and a walk off Lee.

I thought he was going to break the no-hit-less streak. Otherwise, I’m not the least bit surprised.

I missed the pre- and in-game festivities here, but I imagine there was a good amount of angst over having Lu Montañez batting 3rd. I know Quady has a shortage of RH batters, but for funk’s sake…

I’ve officially joined the mob that’s running Quady, Jaramilly, Riggy, Listy, Derny and DeJessy out of town.

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by chilango2 on Jun 11, 2011 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

"DeJessy" LOL

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by Al Yellon on Jun 11, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Phillies are better than the Cubs.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

A Stunning and Beautiful Summation.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 11, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And the truth.

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by eswan9 on Jun 11, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Captain Obvious.

Simple formula, draft well, Don’t pay Aaron Rowand a ton of cash and play Werth, sign a guy like Victorino for pennies and is a star, and get the stud pitcher for Kyle Drabek.

by Grockcubs on Jun 11, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pitchers

I’ll bet no pitchers on your church softball threw 12 consecutive balls. A Cubs pitcher did that this year. Mr. Clean could have pulled a guy out of the stands that couldn’t have done any worse.

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"Sometimes they boo loud enough to wake up the air traffic controllers." — Me.

by The Underground Conservative on Jun 11, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

God is on your side

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 11, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cripes.

I could have written those seven words and been done with it.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 11, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brevity is the soul of wit.

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by eswan9 on Jun 11, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

and per Dorothy Parker...

“brevity is the soul of lingerie”

by John916 on Jun 11, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just might.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 11, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would rec that!

and it would go down in history as Al’s greatest game recap

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by VegasCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be hilarious

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 11, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be hilarious

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 11, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's up with Soto?

I know he had a good game on Thursday, but lately and generally, he has been stinking bad at the plate.

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jun 11, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

It's an odd numbered year.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 11, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The anti-Prince

Prince loves odd years. They could pick up each other’s slack. Although Prince’s bad years are still better than most’s good years.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's just not as good as his 2008 season would suggest.

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by tripdenten on Jun 12, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I missed this game completely, a rarity for me. Nice to know I have not missed much. Same ols story indeed. The sooner Quade loses his job the happier I will be. Probably have to wait until the end of the season though.

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by eswan9 on Jun 11, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

You'll have to wait until after 2012.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 11, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have waited a long time for a WS for these Cubs.

Guess I can wait that long.

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by eswan9 on Jun 11, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad team = Bad results

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Well the Cardinals do have Pujols, Rasmus, and Carpenter.

We don’t have anyone on Rasmus’ level, let alone Pujols or Carpenter.

Lemahieu needs more ABs. I expect this to all be much easier after the trade deadline but yeah I could see this being frustrating to watch on an everyday basis.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 7:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Getting LeMahieu at bats will be easier after the deadline?

How do you figure?

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The trade deadline, I believe, should clear up a spot

somewhere. Maybe not Lenahieu (maybe), but Brett Jackson or someone.

I don’t believe the Cubs will sit still at the deadline. It’d suck to be wrong unless some of these vets end up getting us draft picks.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 7:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I could see an outfield spot opening up.

I don’t see Aramis being traded though, and Starlin and Darwin aren’t going anywhere.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Garza and Zambrano

Than Carpenter. He’s just not the same dude he used to be.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jun 11, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I DVR'd the Greink/Carp and Pujols/Fielder match tonight.

Im in the second. So far greinke is nasty as usual. Fielder rocked a hr off of Carpenter in the 1st. Pujols hit a double in the first.

One of these guys must end up a Cub.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 7:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe. His next start would be Thursday unless

it’s an off day. So yeah, they probably miss him.

The slider is sick nasty awesome. He’s a 1013 FA too I believe.

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 7:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

1013?!

We have to go back in time?!

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paging William the Conqueror,

Your presence is needed in England. Please invade in 50-60 years.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 12, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

4 game series

We should see him Thursday. The pitcher we’ll miss is Marcum.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry TJ!

Didn’t mean to offend you by stating a probable pitcher in a discussion about probable pitchers!

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. I understood.

You’re saying it doesn’t matter who starts against us, because the Cubs will lose. But you were also saying it wasn’t a conversation worth having because of the aforementioned reason. Sorry I disagree, and don’t mind talking about it.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jun 11, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably Grienke for his home run power

then his arm will fall off

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by VegasCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ted Lilly just stole second

beast

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I just saw the box score

How did it look?

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Jun 11, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

All on the pitcher

 - add to that he slid in head first.

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bright side of moving to the LA area as a Cub fan

Scully

Never has such old air been so fresh.

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

When Lilly stole second

total surprise play obviously by Lilly

“….and Ted Lilly just stole his wallet”

You cannot teach that stuff.

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. I lived in LA for a long time. Didn't like the Dodgers but loved Vin Scully.

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by zevkalman on Jun 11, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Listened to Vin on MLB network's recap show tonight

Marcus Thames was up in a 6-1 game, so instead of trying to pretend that Thames is a good player or something and getting into a stream of platitudes, Scully riffed for a solid minute on the meaning of Marcus’ last night.

Classic and beautiful. Then Thames ripped an RBI single to short left, and Scully eased right back into game action.

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Jun 11, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops - last name, not last night!

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Jun 11, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it considered cowardly as

my plans ran longer than expected today and I missed the game? I’m certain you can imagine my surprize when I discovered we had lost…again

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by jeffstorm2 on Jun 11, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you Shoe

…I think… :)

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by jeffstorm2 on Jun 11, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bad old days...
Pat Hughes remarked today that the 3-4-5 hitters in this afternoon’s lineup — the guys who are supposed to be the “meat of the order” — had combined for four home runs.

Not unlike the era when Jose Cardenal was the team’s “power hitter” – BLARGH!

by MN exile on Jun 11, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Even Cardenal hit more home runs than that.

In six years as a Cub he averaged 10 HR a year. And that includes a couple years when he was a part-time player.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 12, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw on MLB network that

Quade is unconcerned about Z’s long start.

What kind of monster is this man?

by SenorGato on Jun 11, 2011 8:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the Cubs

are getting some kind of government subsidy for Quade – that’s the only reason I can see that they still employ the man.

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jun 11, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think much concerns him.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's very kind of him.

Thanks, Mike.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a very positive working environment.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

All 20 of them.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jun 11, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

they're the ones not wearing Cubbie blue

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by cooliogirl47 on Jun 11, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me TJ11...

How is it you know what it is Tom does or does not approve of? Hmmm? :)

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by jeffstorm2 on Jun 11, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah then...I see...

Telling the truth can’t get you far here! :)

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by jeffstorm2 on Jun 11, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honest answer

Quade played Soto in both games of a doubleheader this year. 20 innings total. Granted, not in heat like today in Philly.

As for Zambrano, you shouldn’t be concerned about the pitch count total. But the concern should be with the bad innings (lots of pitches in 1 inning) and the mix of pitches (pitches that put more strain on the elbow or shoulder vs. other pitches).

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 11, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get the Sac bunt play in the bottom of the 8th

Martinez pops up his sacrifice bunt with Ruiz on 1st base. It looked like Soto could have caught that ball. I’m not sure. I hope he wasn’t trying to catch the runner in no-man’s land and get the double play. That would be stupid. If Soto could catch the ball, the best play is to catch it and keep the runner at first base.

"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver

by RiskyBusiness on Jun 11, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Fox gave me Reds/Giants, so I didn't see the Cubs game - just as well...

Remember when the Cards lost Adam Wainwright and we thought maybe, just maybe that would even out the competitive balance in the NL Central, maybe the Cubs could hang around and challenge for a playoff spot?? Now, not so much…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 11, 2011 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

They were hovering closer to .500 because they were playing bad teams

which is something I and others were pointing out when people were claiming "hey we’re still in contention.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Jun 11, 2011 9:48 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Shhhh

Next you’ll have to point out that it’s not Quade’s fault these guys hack at everything within a mile of the plate. It’s like Soriano is the hitting coach right now.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jun 11, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doug Davis faces Roy Oswalt

Sounds like a Spring Training matchup.

Ah, Mesa Arizona, how I miss thee!

by JFCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

How many times are you going to blame it on the AAA players?
This is not an excuse, but that is what happens when you put what is essentially a Triple-A team on the field.

Quade is, has, and, I suspect, will be playing the under performing veterans while the AAA players are riding the bench. Obviously MQ feels our major league team is the best bet to win games and isn’t that pathetic.

I’ll bet the home office is preparing the next stalling campaign announcing that we’ll have our team back with the addition of Soriano and the boys from intensive care. Of course, we’ll still stink but the excuse then will be the fans have to be patient while they get back in playing shape. And the beat will go on and we’ll be assurred that the real team will show up after the All Star break. But we’ll still watch Pena start against LH and Soriano will still dive after breaking balls in the dirt. Fortunately we’ll watch Hendry work his magic and trade away some decent prospects for veterans who work cheaply.

“He was red hot in Double A,” Quade told MLB.com. “I got a look at him in spring training – nice looking player. He gives us a righthanded bat and some pretty good defensive versatility with he and Blake Dewitt now. We were looking for a guy that can fill in at second, third and even short if need be.”

One start in 14 days.

Free LeMahieu.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 11, 2011 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

QIAFI BHWH BAFI

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

LeMahieu was...

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by VegasCubFan on Jun 11, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Al...

Do you need this again?

You're not deep, You're not an intellectual,
You're not an artist, You're not a critic,
You're not a poet... You just have internet access.
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I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat lettuce...

by Endrick on Jun 11, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Ill be on Webster Lake in Indiana

from July 17-23…….musky style.

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team will play hell...

to win 3 or 4 more games this month. The 2011 Chicago Cubs may go down as the worst Cubs team I’ve seen…and I’ve seen an ass-load of BAD Cubs teams. This baseball season is already TOO long.

With the 1st pick in the 2012 Baseball Amateur Draft, the Chicago Cubs select...

by Easy Ed on Jun 11, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

That is what my wife said

earlier today !!! Just after she found out they lost again . Really there is no end in sight to this mess . Ricketts has to be wondering how to get out of it.

by cubs north on Jun 11, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

134 million down the drain.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 11, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean down the trough

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by Hammer on Jun 11, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I thought the ball that got passed him made him a shoe in for tonights postgame.

by SenorGato on Jun 12, 2011 1:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

he did take a rather circuitous route on that ball didn't he...

Soriano would’ve gotten a better read on it but probably still wouldn’t have caught it – he would’ve pulled up short to play it off the wall. Only SuperFuld would have made that catch.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 12, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i had

hopes after thursdays comeback but this lineup cant handle the likes of halliday or lee.same deal every day crappy fielding and cant drive in the runners.i cant imagine how the cubs will fix this next year.anyone up for moving castro to 3rd next year?at least we would still have a good hitting 3rd baseman. many holes to fill next year.

by NOMAR on Jun 12, 2011 6:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I am

we will need a SS then, hmmm, REYES. Go get him. Sign him going forward. We need to show that we want to be competitive going forward or no free agent will want to sign here. Reyes can lead off, and help castro with his defense. Albert might be inticed with a lineup in front of him of Reyes, Barney, Castro.

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by imacubman on Jun 12, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

After reading

the DH story a couple quotes jumped out at me.

Quade ""You’ve got to come with your ‘A’ game when you face them. You’ve got to do everything right."

Quade, this team does not have an “A” game. And the issue is compounded with your bad managing.

And this one from Garza

"All we can do is keep battling, and we will. Everybody’s lacing them up and going out there to play hard. Everybody’s pulling for each other. We’ll get it turned around."

This got me to thinking. Does he really believe what he is saying?

And finally the dager in the heart from Lee

"They keep swinging and missing,"

I think this comment pretty much sums up 2011

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by wild bill on Jun 12, 2011 7:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I was looking

at the FA list for next year, and other than AP and PF, there really wasn’t anyone exciting to go after. Who will be our RF? It also seems to me that we will need an experienced manager. What quality and proven manager can we get? Please don’t say “anyone”.

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

also, who mans 3B?

I wouldn’t mind ARam at 3B if we can get a Kerry Wood discount.

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um, no.

The way he’s playing? Bye-bye, A-Ram.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 12, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying...

but he is hitting .283 with 24 RBIs. If we get a hometown discount, he would be a GREAT #7 hitter. That frees up money for the marque name next year. ARam is only having a bad year for a #4 hitter. Am I right?

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ramirez is on pace for about six HR and 70 RBI

… with a .733 OPS. That’s approximately as good as Ryan Theriot is doing this year. Care to reconsider?

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by Al Yellon on Jun 12, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

as a discounted #7 hitter?

All the pressure would be off of him to be “The Man”, and what is our alternative? I would rather have ARam than a platoon of Baker and Dewitt. Don’t compare ARam to Pujols on the Cards, but rather compare him to Theriot on the Cards. If you’re going player by player, we would have the advantage.

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forget it, Ramirez will never take a discount.

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by tripdenten on Jun 12, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not?

There are only 3 teams that have their 3B as a free agent next year. He might not have options and he’s certainly not getting 10 million from anyone.

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

3B FA next year...

Casey Blake LAD
Mark DeRosa SF
Greg Dobbs PHI

or keep ARam?

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Championship Caliber vs. The Cubs

It is interesting to look at the differences between Championship caliber teams like the Phillies, and our own team of largely hacks and inexperienced players with potential.

The Cubs, for example, do not have a MLB “Ace” on the staff – haven’t for some time.

The Phillies have two.

That’s just for starters. Oh well. I doubt in my lifetime that the Cubs will ever build a perennial winning candidate like the Cards or now – the Phillies.

One always has to have a smidgen of hope as a Cub fan.

Perhaps if there was a third baseball team in town, I might consider rooting for them. But there isn’t, and the Sox…well…

by The E-Man on Jun 12, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I disagree

Our team is spending money. We aren’t the Royals or A’s. We just haven’t spent it in the right places. Eventually we will get it right. We have a much better chance of winning a WS than the Royals ever will.

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by MBlum876 on Jun 12, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

The number isn't nearly sufficient...

when you take off the money Soriano and Zambrano makes. Neither produce to the level at which they’re paid. You can live with that when the rest of the team has a lot of money dumped into it and/or overproduces. When you make those kind of mistakes, you have to either spend your way out of it or go into rebuilding mode. The Cubs are floundering because they choose to do neither.

Don’t kid yourself, we have a much lower chance of winning than the Royals ever will… again! They have prepared themselves to take advantage of their losing ways. They made mistakes with the free agents they signed. They couldn’t spend their way out of it, so they rebuilt. They don’t need many of their bounteous pitching prospects to come through before they’ll be back in the playoffs again, and their offensive stars are already falling into place.

It’s really funny how you compared us to two franchises that have won World Series in the last quarter century.

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by jameslcrockett on Jun 12, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the lack of a true ace has been a problem for awhile.

Dempser fooled everyone in 2008 and Z is a #2 at best.

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