Chicago Cubs vs. Milwaukee Brewers Preview, Tuesday 6/14, 7:05 CT: A Carpenter By Any Other Name
In 1962, the Mets, on their way to a 40-120 season, had a pitcher on their roster named Bob Miller, who played for 10 teams in all in his career, including the Cubs in 1970 and 1971.
For some reason, that wasn't enough for them. On May 7, 1962, they traded for another pitcher named Bob Miller. Just to keep a Cubs connection to this, they traded Don Zimmer for him.
It sent a bad team's pitching staff into chaos. The players got each other's mail. They got confused as to who was supposed to warm up in the bullpen, even though the first one (we'll call him "L" after his middle initial) was righthanded and the other (middle initial "G") was lefthanded. Just to continue the Chicago connection, "G" was born and raised in the Chicago area.
"L" was on his way to a completely winless year -- hey, maybe that initial meant something -- until one day before the end of the 1962 season, September 29, 1962, he threw a complete-game 2-1 victory. Over the Cubs, of course, at Wrigley Field. It was the Mets' 40th and final win of the 1962 season.
I mention all of this because the Cubs are recalling Chris Carpenter to be in their bullpen, starting tonight. Chris Carpenter is no relation to Chris Carpenter, the Cardinals pitcher (or Cris Carpenter, who pitched for the Cardinals in the late 1980s and early 1990s). Chris the Cardinal is from New Hampshire. Chris the Cub is from Ohio. Let's hope Chris the Cub is half as successful as Chris the Cardinal.
And (h/t to Harry Pavlidis), if you need to tell them apart, you can't use their middle names. It's "John". For both of them.
Cubs lineup:
Fukufome rf, Castro ss, Ramirez 3b, Pena 1b, DeWitt lf, Soto c, Baker 2b, TBD cf, Wells p
Reed Johnson will be activated and play CF if MLB clears paperwork in time. Otherwise it will be ether Tyler Colvin or Tony Campana. Darwin Barney is getting the day off.
Brewers lineup:
Weeks 2b, Morgan cf, Braun lf, Fielder 1b, McGehee 3b, Hart rf, Betancourt ss, Lucroy c, Gallardo p
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Randy Wells made three starts against the Brewers in 2010; one was good, one mediocre and one pretty bad. Overall he had a win, a loss, a no-decision and a 6.23 ERA. Ryan Braun is hitting .353 (6-for-17) against him and Prince Fielder .400 (6-for-15, a HR). Clearly, we are doomed.
The Cubs were actually doing OK against Yovani Gallardo on April 10 in Milwaukee and had the lead until Kerry Wood coughed it up in the eighth inning. Gallardo has been up and down this year -- has had many good starts, and then mixed it up with bad ones like his last outing vs. the Mets (10 hits and four runs in four innings). Current Cubs are hitting .269 (25-for-93) against him; Geovany Soto has homered off him in the past.
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Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Any bets on Carpenter's Quadename?
Carpy?
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 14, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
I think that's same to assume.
Wonder what he’ll call Brett Jackson? Bretty? Jacksy?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
It doesn't matter
even if Brett Jackson was called up, DeWitt would play the OF before him. I want to say I am kidding around, but after thinking about it, it could possibly happen.
Does "jacksie" mean the same over there as it does here?
It had better not, if Quadey’s going to be using it as a nickname
by Limey Cub Fan Jay on Jun 14, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Woody... Errrr... Never mind.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Jun 14, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
still a bit strange.
why not just let RJ get the extra day, plug Colvin in, and worry about it tomorrow.
TBDy on Quad talk
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Jun 14, 2011 5:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Quade is intend on making DeWitt an OF
So let me get this straight with Baker and DeWitt in the line up, DeWitt plays LF and Baker plays 2nd. Yep makes perfect sense to me. It is an accident waiting to happen.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
at this point
there HAS to be some showcasing going on…either for DeWitt as super-sub for the Cubs next year or a piece of a trade this year.
Or Quade is clueless?
I also love how players seem to be on the bench after a really good game ( Barney, Campana)
yet the guys who have terrible games always start the next day.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jun 14, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
They're due!!!!!!!
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I can see the logic behind the terrible game
get you back out there focusing on the game rather than spending all those hours mulling over the bad game.
I would like to see more of Campy and I have no clue how many games Barney has started in a row.
On a normal team
Ramirez “Ramsey” would be hitting 6th or 7th…
during April May - yes
June on 3-4 hole is a good spot…historically he does better once school lets out
Is he working on his GED?
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Do we know who is headed to Iowa
if Reed’s paperwork does go through? I would assume Colvin or ‘Campy’.
Colvin so he can get regular ABs???
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
In other news...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 14, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions
Photo of Bud Selig at the bottom of the urinal??
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
If I had 235465 billion dollars,
I’d never put on pants.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
would you wear a strap around your ankle for your wallet??
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
He has people for that
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 14, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
They do.
I have rich friends. Not like North Shore doctor-rich, but like Caribbean island owner-rich. And these people don’t touch bills or credit cards. It’s creepy. I’m jealous.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Cuban is the most bada$$ professional sports owner out there.
Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!"
Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"
by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Define "badass"...
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Cuban is no Samuel L. Jackson
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That reminds me....
This bedtime story read by Samuel L. Jackson is still a free download.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 14, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope the Cubs have enough money in their budget
to keep shipping these guys back and forth between CHI and Iowa.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
They know this long haul trucker....
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Jun 14, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Michael Anthony Smith(s)
In 1989, there was a pitcher named “Mississippi” Mike Smith (Michael Anthony Smith) with the Pirates. That same season, there was a pitcher named “Texas” Mike Smith (also Michael Anthony Smith) with Baltimore. They had to go by their home states because they had the same exact name.
There was another pitcher named Michael Anthony Smith who was with the Blue Jays in 2002 and the Twins in 2006.
2011 - The 103rd time is the charm.
He was awesome in "16 Candles" and "Breakfast Club"
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I rest my case.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Phillip Seymore Hoffman
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 14, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
What was the point...
…of calling Coleman back up to pitch in one game? Why didn’t they just call up Carpenter last week instead?
Yeah, a few weeks ago
He got in some type of verbal fight with one of the other commentators (forgot who it was) but it was very uncomfortable.
I hadn't seen him on before today, but right away he was giving HR some very weird looks...
think he’s still juicin?
Possibly but with his behavior
you would think he was on some type of prescription meds or something…
Win it again Cubs, for old times sake
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Jun 14, 2011 5:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Man, after reading all the local beat writers...
it seems as if Jimbo is already fired…
I just don't get it
Why is Carpy moved to Wrigley when he was recently demoted to AA because his BB rate was terrible? Next thing you know we’ll be playing IF in the OF. Let me take that back. We’d never do that if we were serious about winning.
If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.
Don't you get it...
he was demoted again to the single A Cubs team in Chicago..
Just kidding of course...
but it seems most of us here are expressing the same type of confusion
Long story but...
when I played in the Colt World Series, they were handing out shirts to all the teams that had bazball on it, some type of political correct shirt for the Asia teams and Latin American teams that were in the tournament. So long story short, bazball=bazfan (baseball fan).
To shut up all those people...
…that believe Lopez and Davis are “wastes of time” and we should be at least be putting out a 5th starter that “has a future in the organization”.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I really wish I had HBO for this show
This is one of my favorite series of books.
Do You Seriously want to know....
because I can spoil it if you want…
or better yet, spoil it yourself by watching THIS
Warning: NSFW language
WWOZ.org - New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Station
by Gibbon Jockey on Jun 14, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw the last episode...
I just couldn’t believe the ending!!! What’s the link? Would it spoil future episodes?
Nope..it's a reaction to the ending to which you refer.
Pretty funny
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jun 14, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Hilarious!!
I was pretty pissed myself! Showed the vid to my wife, who wasn’t in the best of moods… She laughed her ass off!!!
Oh yeah..
I love that series, I didn’t think I would at first, but the family plots are awesome. I can’t believe they executed him…kind of sad.
Welcome back Reed Johnson.
Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!"
Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"
by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:22 PM CDT reply actions
Quade walked Fielder? I'm shocked.
Still, enjoying reading about wins for a change
We stinks. -- CZambrano
I really don't get Quade.
Baker at second, DeWitt in left. DJ LeMahieu still not getting fair playing time.. I could only imagine how messed up his time is.
R.I.P. to my grandfather, Andrew Wiley
The reason I am a Cub fan forever
blakey poo needs ABs
flippity floppity floop
by jesus christos on Jun 14, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
How dare you put DeRo in anything but 1st place.
I’m shocked and offended.
DeRo forever.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
So...
it’s awesome locking yourself out of your car. I suggest everyone try it at some point.
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 14, 2011 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
Mine was at a greyhound station and it had snowed about a foot
while I was gone. Spare keys were about 45 minutes away. Not cool
by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's any consolatiion, it only happens once in a lifetime...
…unless, you’re a complete doofus.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Then I'm a complete doofus
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 14, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
You should take up cycling...
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Those bike lock combos can be a bear to remember
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
One digit locks....Phillipines....Ebay
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Try it with your car still running sometime.
That is fun. Not too embarrassing.
Fasten those seat belts...
Did it all the time last winter
Of course, I had a second key on my ring…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
You haven't lived until you've done it late at night as a thunderstorm is approaching. Also you might want to be really high and 17 years old...that helps.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 14, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I just want to share with the two of you I found a couple pics of a girl I was gonna marry.
At first I wanted to cry. Then I wanted to punch something. Now I’m mostly OK.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Lets talk about it
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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 14, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
OK.
It was tough. But then it was easy. Then I forgot about her. After seeing her for the first time in 8 years, I almost poo’d my pants.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
I'm still trying to figure out what movie you're quoting from....
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Where did you share?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Just fine
Took a break from Bitch Complain Blue for a while.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I f'ing sucked so bad around here without you...
I HATED it…it was truly awful. There hasn’t been a worse time to be on BCB since the 2nd time BlueMike got banned. I’m not one to complain, but don’t ever do that again. I almost couldn’t stand this place. You wanna know how bad it was? I’ll tell you. I logged on and went to the first fanpost everyday…and there you weren’t. I’m breaking out in a cold sweat right now just thinking about how ridiculously bad this was. Don’t get me started.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 14, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I will take that in the spirit in which it was offered
Shoulda Facebook msg’d me, bro.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
have a sucker
it will make you feel better
flippity floppity floop
by jesus christos on Jun 14, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm predicting a great game
like a no hitter or something. My knee just went out on me and my husband wanted me to rest it rather than try crutches on the ramps to the upper deck. I just know it’s going to be awesome since I didn’t go.
Fasten those seat belts...
At least you'll be recovered in time for Jeter's 3000th hit later this week...
…oh wait….
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
They're probably on the same bus, Sue. lol.
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by carmen_fanzone on Jun 14, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions

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