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Cubs Come From Behind, Defeat Brewers In 10, 5-4

Somewhere in there, you'll find Starlin Castro: members of the Chicago Cubs including Ryan Dempster, Reed Johnson and Jeff Samardzija celebrate a win over the Milwaukee Brewers at Wrigley Field on June 14, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. The Cubs defeated the Brewers 5-4 in 10 innings. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

No, I did not make that headline up. It really happened.

Remember when the Cubs used to get solid starting pitching, even overcoming some sloppy play, good relief pitching and clutch home runs? Sure you do. It was called "2008".

Last night, the Cubs reminded us how that works. They were awful in the field in the early innings, committing three essentially unnecessary errors (would someone please remind Starlin Castro that it is permissible to eat a ball when he can't possibly throw a runner out?) and falling behind the Brewers 3-0 on a day when Yovani Gallardo was dealing. Gallardo had 10 strikeouts and have up just three hits. Only one Cub reached second base in the first six innings, Reed Johnson, who had a ground ball double down the left field line.

Gallardo gave up a solo home run to Geovany Soto in the seventh, but still looked strong. Unfortunately for the Brewers, he had to be lifted after throwing 109 pitches. That seems to be about his limit; his season high is 114 and he's thrown more than 109 only four times in 15 starts.

Star-divide

That's when the 2008 vibe came back and good things started happening for the Cubs. For some inexplicable reason, Brewers manager Ron Roenicke called on Marco Estrada to protect his 4-1 lead. Estrada had two blown saves already this month, and tacked on a third when he gave up consecutive doubles to Kosuke Fukudome and Starlin Castro, and then a game-tying home run from Aramis Ramirez.

Yes, a game-tying home run from Ramirez. I told you I wasn't making this stuff up. Incidentally, the double by Fukudome did something I have never seen before at Wrigley Field. It was ruled a ground-rule double after it got stuck between the top of the ivy and the bottom of the basket on the outfield wall. I've seen balls get stuck in the ivy, and balls go into the basket -- but never one between the two, until last night.

The game continued with Cubs relievers getting outs and making good pitches (for the most part). Rookie Chris Carpenter made his major league debut; his first pitch was slammed for an RBI double by Rickie Weeks, which gave the Brewers their fourth run (this was before all the heroics in the last of the eighth). But Carlos Marmol -- entering a tie game in the ninth inning for the first time this year -- and Jeff Samardzija held the Brewers down, setting up some 10th inning heroics.

Tony Campana -- who may be the fastest player in baseball -- legged out a double down the line. Kosuke Fukudome laid down a perfect sacrifice bunt. No, I am still not making stuff up.

The Brewers brought Ryan Braun into the infield, leaving only two outfielders. At the time, with Campana's speed, I thought perhaps a squeeze attempt by Starlin Castro was in order.

Castro whacked a ball far over Corey Hart's head in right-center field to win it, bringing the team out jumping up and down like they'd just won -- well, something more important than a game bringing the team to 12 games under .500. OK, here's something: it brought the team record in one-run games back to even at 9-9.

This is the Cubs' seventh two-game winning streak of the year; the 14 wins in those streaks account for more than half of the 27 team wins. All the rest of the wins are singletons followed by defeats. You'd think that once, just once, or maybe even more than once, this team could reel off three wins in a row. With Carlos Zambrano on the mound tonight, it's certainly possible. They're playing better baseball the last two days, all the errors notwithstanding. The no-show count is down; of the 39,151 announced, again it appeared that about 30,000 were in the house Tuesday night.

It may not lead to anything, but wins are always nice. Weather permitting (yes, it's raining again in Chicago Wednesday morning), they'll go for that elusive third win in a row tonight.

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Being a Cub fan in Wisconsin...

these wins have been especially sweet!

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jun 15, 2011 7:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

For sure

I’m glad I tuned back in last night. I’d turned it off after the 3rd and went for a hike. I got back just in time for the bottom of the eighth.

by wallrock on Jun 15, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad i'm not the only one

Love rubbing it in the face of brewer fans

~Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs~ George F. Will

by unretrofied93 on Jun 15, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Amen.

There is nothing better than wearing your Cub gear knowing you’re not going to get a “Cubs Suck” comment from an arrogant Brewer Fan :)

by Andrew Carl on Jun 16, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Three?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 15, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

We've won two in a row...

win another, and that’s called a winning streak. – (paraphrased) Lou Brown

"Don't give me any of that ole' bulls#!t." - Lou Brown

by mondello58 on Jun 15, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

This feels so good...

2 More against the Brewers and then sweep the Yankees and Whit Sox…

Back to .500 and then…

By God, I love this KoolAid!
 

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Jun 15, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only 10 games back

And the Cards are on a 4 game skid.

by Danwood on Jun 15, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers real soon now too

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

15 Day DL for Barney with a knee strain.

UMMM… Yeah. Thank you for being a killjoy.

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by chilango2 on Jun 15, 2011 7:21 AM CDT reply actions  

do we dare hope

for DJLM starting 15 days at 2nd?

by hansman1982 on Jun 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats a dream...

Soriano’s back and Dewitt will go to second…

by epsilon on Jun 15, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

The DeWitt part isn't terrible

as he’s been playing pretty well.

(I know, I know – I’ve somehow become the resident DeWitt apologist… I’m not happy about LeMahieu riding the pine, mind you.)

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by Brett Taylor on Jun 15, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

that would be AWESOME

then we would have the power hitting 2b that we need!

by hansman1982 on Jun 15, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeWitt has been swinging a hot bat.

But his eye at the plate… not so much.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do I dare think of _______ in a row?

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by mrcubsfan on Jun 15, 2011 7:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yes

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two chances to win this series...

When is the last time the Cubs WON a series? Geez, that question makes me kinda sad. Nice comeback last night, boys…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 15, 2011 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Cubs swept a two-game series in Florida May 18-19.

Last time they won a three-game series was May 2-4 at Los Angeles.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was that May 2010?

It seems like it’s been a YEAR since the last series win! Thanks for the knowledge, Al…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 15, 2011 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

It does seem like a year. But it’s only been five weeks.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Only"

LOL back at ya…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 15, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Rocky Horror Cubs Show dancing the Timewarp?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are correct, sir...

The Cubs beat the Mets 11-1 on May 24, dropped the middle game of the series 7-4 and won the May 26 rubber game 9-3.

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 15, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

See how bad it’s been? I completely forgot about that series.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

And we blew them out too.

Amazing.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cubs WIn?

Well slap me silly and cover me in honey & feathers!

Well wait. On second thought, that’s not such a good idea.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Jun 15, 2011 7:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Sure.

But that’s a big if.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

If...

he could draw walks. We seem to have a team-wide problem of doing that.

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by mondello58 on Jun 15, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny looking at the numbers yesterday.

Cubs are last in the majors in walks, followed by the Twins and Houston. Not surprising the 3 teams with the worst records in baseball. Of the Cubs 160 walks, Pena and Dome have 74 of them.
 Cubs pitching staff is tied with Cincinnati with the most walks in the NL with 250, Toronto has 251.

by Grockcubs on Jun 15, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't really funny, unfortunately.

It has to change. The last Cubs team that had a differential like that was in 2006… and you know what happened then.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree it is not funny.

Funny how they don’t take a different approach.

by Grockcubs on Jun 15, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Starlin Castro is the one I'm most worried about not taking walks.

You know how scary good he could be if he actually drew some walks too? He could hit .320 easily and it would be nice to see an OBP around .380+

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by Unique on Jun 15, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's 21.

Perhaps he will learn plate discipline as he gets older.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I understand he's 21.

And I hope so. I just worry that sometimes what makes Castro great is his plate approach at times… I hope that trying to create more discipline will hurt him more than it will help.

Just nitpicking — other than that, I see a potential All-Star for several years.

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by Unique on Jun 15, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's something that's difficult to learn

When you can literally make contact with 90% of the pitches thrown at you. A lot of times as they mature, they stop trying to show they can put the bat on the ball and look for balls they can put the barrel on.

Not only will that increase his hitting ability, it will increase his ability to take a walk. He’ll see more line drives and less grounders and may see some power develop.

Obviously, this is what you hope to see happen, but there’s no reason to assume he can’t do it at 21.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're probably looking at the next Miguel Tejada

I doubt Castro will develop into a work-deep-counts hitter, takes walks and gets a .400 OBP. When he has a high OBP, it will because he has a high BA, very little spread.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 15, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily...

Obviously that’s a very distinct possibility, but it’s far to early to determine what kind of player he will become.

He certainly has the potential to learn that just because he CAN hit something doesn’t mean he SHOULD hit something. With that knowledge comes increase discipline, more walks, better OBP, and better contact when he does swing.

Obviously that’s far from a guarantee, but I wouldn’t say anything is “probable” just yet, the kid is the age of most A+ or good AA players.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow that is sad.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, considering most of the team doesn't draw walks

I don’t see why he should. I’m kidding, of course.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

In defense of Castro

I thought the play in the hole and the throw that sailed was not ill advised. Brenly said the same. Catcher running, and a good throw I believe he gets him. The other error could of gone either way. Bakers throw was low and across Castro’s body, to me that was a toss up on who got the error.
 Funny watching the game and they mentioned that Ramy faced Estrada once before and homered. I said prior to the pitch, “Well may as well hit another one” Nice rope. You wait, he will get hot and the Cubs will have one helluva decision to make.
 Not holding my breath on this one. Since DeWitt has gone 4 for his last 26, maybe DJ can get a start at second since Soriano is back.
 Shark is 5-2, crazy game.

by Grockcubs on Jun 15, 2011 7:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Shark

has come up big this year. Funny how the Brewers are having the bullpen problems in this series.

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by mondello58 on Jun 15, 2011 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

the thing that scares me

is his BABIP is lower than his career average…it could be that the last 2 years skewed it high due to him getting jerked around but we will see…

by hansman1982 on Jun 15, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Baker's throw should have stayed an error with Baker

It was a bad throw from the start, right in the dirt. If that was Castro throwing low in the dirt to 1B, it’s E6 not E3.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 15, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad I didn't turn the game off

it was very tempting after they gave up that 4th run…. a nice comeback win against the Brewers always feels good, lets (finally) get 3 in a row tonight!

by cubman987 on Jun 15, 2011 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Seconded.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Jun 15, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thirded.

Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Jun 15, 2011 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Felt good watching the Cubbies win again

also caught Quade’s postgame…He really likes to use the word “damn.”

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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 15, 2011 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

What? He didn't say Damny?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that bothers me a lot

Maybe he could clean it up some for the kids who might be watching.

and also for professionalism of representing the team in a public forum.

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by CubFanSince1970 on Jun 15, 2011 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is not my issue

and your response seems overblown.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 15, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think kids see so much awful violent and raunchy stuff via the commercials during a game

that the word damn doesn’t even show up on my radar.

And no kid should watch the Cubs’ fielding without a parent nearby to explain that it’s just a game and can’t really hurt them.

by the nth on Jun 15, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps we need to petition the FCC

To get a TV14 rating assigned to all 2011 Cubs related broadcasts

by Danwood on Jun 15, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most comedies aren't TV14 though.

I guess this one fits the bill. The program is so inappropriate they should only be aired after 10pm or on premium channels.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kids need to know that they can just say NO.
no kid should watch the Cubs’ fielding without a parent nearby to explain

My life could have been so different if back in 1968 I knew that I allowed to say NO to an adult asking me if I wanted to go to a ballgame.
 
;-)
 

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh profanity, he we profanity go again...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey,

profanity Al will not tolerate all this profanity-ing profanity curse words…

by hansman1982 on Jun 15, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Profanity!

There. Happy now?

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh Al... Oh Al... How could you?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 15, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was 3 out of 4

But considering I thought they’d be 2-5 possibly on this home stand I thought he was nuts. Now it’s looking like they could win 3. With this team 3-4 would be a nice surprise

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 15, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

3-4 would save them

saves them from the worst record in MLB, keeps them @ 2nd or 3rd worse

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

The following week is Sox & Royals. It’s there any break in the schedule. Maybe bottom 5 then.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 15, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

the past 2 years

the Cubs have shown the ability to start winning once the pressure of actually contending for a playoff spot has evaporated. Maybe that will be the case this year and we will see a decent record rest of way.

No matter what the team’s record, a walk-off is always great.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Jun 15, 2011 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Good win

I tuned-out after the fielding errors then tuned back in in time for the bottom of the 8th. Somehow I missed Quade’s ejection. A double by a scrappy outfielder, a good sac bunt and a simple fly ball broke the tie. The power hitting kept the team in it as, I suppose, did the pitching.

Giving-up 4 runs is tempting fate with this team. Too bad Barney is on the DL, but Quade will be forced to play somebody who probably has more clout potential.

by AboutTheCubs on Jun 15, 2011 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm gonna throw something crazy out here.

Last week, Buster Olney was on Baseball Tonight saying that if the Ryas get the right offer for BJ Upton they would be willing to trade him. Assuming the Rays are still in contention, and the Cubs still aren’t, would you guys trade Fukudome for Upton in an attempt to get a future center fielder who’s a lot younger and faster? He’s still only 26, and can run, plays good defense, has some pop, and he even walks a decent amount of times.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Why would the Rays do that?

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fukudome is performing at a much higher rate than Upton this year,

And both of the contractsa are off the books at the end of the season anyway.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're missing the value in these players though...

The team trading for Upton has a chance to offer him a contract before anyone else. The team who gets Fukudome gets to watch him walk away, because no one is offering him arb or fighting to negotiate with him.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

BJ Upton?

Nah, I’d really rather not. First off, there’s no way that the Rays want Fukudome. They would want some prospects and I’m just not willing to give up prospects for a guy like BJ Upton who certainly hasn’t lived up to the hype.

Should he be an FA, perhaps, but I’m not interested if I’d have to give up Sczcur or Jackson, which I suspect is what the Rays would want in return. There are teams who would want a guy like Upton for this year’s playoff run and, as such, will be more desperate to acquire him.

At this point, if the Cubs are trading away top prospects, it should be for difference making guys and, unfortunately, BJ Upton isn’t that. Now his brother OTOH ….

by jerry morales rules on Jun 15, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

My line of thinking is

If the Rays are in contention, they get Fukudome, or maybe even Byrd, who will produce more for them in center than Upton currently is, and we get Upton as our future center fielder and a speedy guy that we lack.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If wishes were fishes...

Then everyone would eat. Major League baseball is not some video game where you can do asinine trades like this. There are evaluators which determine the value (real and perceived) for trades.

by tootle on Jun 15, 2011 12:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This trade isn't asinine.

Fukudome and Byrd are better than Upton in just about every category but homeruns. I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If the Rays are still in contention and want a more productive center fielder, why not give it a whirl?

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Rays would never do this.

They can’t afford to throw away young guys who have a future with the team for old, expensive ones like Fukudome.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Olney said that they don't really want to resign Upton.

And that old and expensive guy is an upgrade over Upton, thus increasing the Rays chances in a pennant race.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, who else are you going to trade them other than Fukudome?

Because that certainly be enough. The Rays will offer him arb, watch him walk away, and happily collect their draft picks.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any prospect(s) not named Jackson, McNutt, Simpson, or Baez.

I don’t really know enough about any of the other ones, I just read about them, so I couldn’t tell you exactly what.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that would get it done.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said, just throwing it out there. Why not give it a try?

He’s better than any other of our current outfielders for the future.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I understand why the Cubs would do it.

But the Rays like getting those picks by offering arb to their free agents and watching them decline, so we’d have to decimate the system to get it done.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

This...

There is a reason the Rays set a record for the most picks in the top 80 some draft picks this year, and it isn’t because they trade young talent for aging veterans.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Campana's quote today
“I’d like to challenge anyone in the league to a race,” he said.

I love it. It’s like he’s the 10 year old kid on my block – “I’ll race ya!”

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Michael Bourn

is the only one who’d have a chance.

by Josh Timmers on Jun 15, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

or maybe Barry Allen.

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by Blue W on Jun 15, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

The brewers have Nyjer Morgan and Carlos Gomez

I don’t know if either is faster, but they are both good base stealers.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 15, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Dee Morgan

I would take him over Campana

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by Hammer on Jun 15, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

errr Dee Gordan

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by Hammer on Jun 15, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

err DEE GORDON

sorry – I am tired.

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by Hammer on Jun 15, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon can fly.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I'd love to see those two leg it out.

Throw Bourn and Rajai Davis in there just in case

by CubFan90 on Jun 15, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barry Allen, I'm telling you.

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by Blue W on Jun 15, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan is *right* there

Just walk over and ask…

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by Clutch16 on Jun 15, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't walk, RUN!

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by Blue W on Jun 15, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's fun to watch Brett Gardner run, too...

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by IowaCubs- on Jun 15, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

And guess which player now leads MLB in errors

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 15, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

YES

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

If next year he is still leading the league in errors I'm going to be worried

But a 21 year old player who had 2 years in minors (I’m multi tasking so don’t have time to look it up) and not quite a full season in the majors in the position of SS I can forgive.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 15, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am afraid that 6 years form now we will be saying

If next year he is still leading the league in errors I’m going to be worried

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 15, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't see that

Cubs has had a few ss with few errors, they also couldn’t get to a variety of the balls he is.

He has to learn that sometimes holding onto the ball is better than trying to get it to first and airmailing it. I’d rather take my chances with him.

by Madison Cub Fan on Jun 15, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same

And who knows, kid is really young. I can think of a lot of players where at some point, everything just kind of clicked for them.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jun 15, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

His defensive WAR is awful though.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

dWar... what is it good for? absolutely nothin!

But really, it’s very difficult to gauge defense through stats. I know it’s come a long way since RF, but UZR and UZR/150 are only scraping the service of what makes a good defender.

by bdlugz on Jun 15, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point.

It’s really judged on only a few (or a lot, in Starlin’s case) errors.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jun 15, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Castro didn't deserve that second error

Bad throw by Baker. Bad change by the scorer, who originally had it on Baker.

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by RiskyBusiness on Jun 15, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT

Got the McCartney tickets on behalf of anohter BCB person. Did not take too long but had to try twice. I swear there is nothing in the system stopping me from getting more, but I never wanted them in the first place.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

How did you get them?

They don’t go on sale to the regular public until Monday, correct?

by jerry morales rules on Jun 15, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Season ticket holder presale

There was a post on it and I offered "my " tickets as in the chance to buy them early and the first person that answered "won " them.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 15, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are a season ticket holder the sale is on through the weekend

and as someone posted in the other thread , they are almost sure to add another show.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 15, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um if you mean my offer to buy them perhaps you can ask around

I am guessing there are other season ticket holders who don’t want them for themselves.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 15, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

The BCB person wanted one of the cheaper groups so the tickets are the back of the upper deck and were $50 each before the crazy fees. The best seats were $250 and nearly all the on field and best views in the park were I think $170. Will be curious to see how it goes. I would not really have minded scalping them given how much I have lost on the season tickets, but too lazy to bother and nice to do a good deed.

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by Doggie Stalker on Jun 15, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

not really fanshot worthy so i'll go here...

From Espn.com:

There is no indication from the Cubs that they will pursue either free-agent slugger in the offseason, but the Milwaukee Brewers first baseman hasn’t crossed the division rival Cubs off his list.

There literally cant be any indication right now, right?

by epsilon on Jun 15, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Right.

And neither would ever cross the Cubs off their list. Even if they don’t want to call Wrigley home, they need the perception of the Cubs in the bidding to drive the price up. Neither the Yankees or Red Sox have a need at 1B or DH (still could wade in though) and the Mets and Dodgers are financial disasters. Not many big $ teams left after that. I guess the Angels could get involved, but they also have Kendry Morales likely back next year, and he’s a stud. Maybe the Orioles?

I can’t see Pujols accepting a DH role at this point, and maybe not Fielder either. However, money talks…

Scott Bora$ is satan.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jun 15, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with that however my point

was more to the fact that if the cubs were to indicate they were interested in the two wouldnt that be tampering?

by epsilon on Jun 15, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep...

and with the Astros having new ownership, I believe they’ll be players, too. Could you imagine Pujols hitting at the “Juice Box” 81 games a year?

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by Easy Ed on Jun 15, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quade seems to be rubbing off on some in the clubhouse...
“Cazzy doesn’t have that ego where he says, ’I’m the shortstop. I’m going to do things a certain way,”’ Barney said

Good, or bad?

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by Subterfuge on Jun 15, 2011 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Dumb, more like it.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 15, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

God GAWD.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 15, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

EZPN?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Jun 15, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Ocho.

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by Subterfuge on Jun 15, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was "Cassie".

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mind you, it was an ESPN reporter quoting Barney...

So it probably was said Cassie.

I knew a girl when I was young named Cassie… not very good plate discipline but man could she rake a double to Right Center.

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by Subterfuge on Jun 15, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about we implement a new rule...

No player earns a nickname until he’s made at least one All-Star appearance or already has a World Series ring! Enough already…

Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!

by DKT on Jun 15, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

And no more "Go Cubs Go"...

until the .500 mark and above.

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by Easy Ed on Jun 15, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And nobody gets to use the label "pesky" or "gamer" again...

I’m looking at YOU Bob Brenley!

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by IowaCubs- on Jun 15, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cubs win 13 in a row, I will shave my eyebrows.

This was the crazies thing I could think of. I need lunch.

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by IowaCubs- on Jun 15, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

We'll hold you to this.

Photographic proof needed.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh, weather not looking too hot tonight.

Thoughts on it getting called?

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by Schwa on Jun 15, 2011 3:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

They'll play.

Rain looks like it’s heading out of the area in the next couple hours.

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by Al Yellon on Jun 15, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unicorns and glitter!!! :D

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Jun 15, 2011 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Like this?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jun 15, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

kinda :)

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by sue369 on Jun 15, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you consider the

Cubs have lost so many close games it is a big W . Get ready for the next two games with the Brew Crew . Darn errors continue haunt them .

by cubs north on Jun 15, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

They mentioned last night Cubs are above .500 when the Starts pitch 6 or more innings.

The Starters look like they are figuring it out. Demp has about 3 ERa in his last 7-9 starts, Z has been decent, and Garza and Wells have worked out the kinks since coming off the DL. So you will have at least a shot to win 4 out of 5 games.

I think the Cubs will end up with about 75-77 wins, instead of 60 something wins as long as the starters stay healthy from now on.

by Mitchener on Jun 15, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Narveson tonight..

We have NEVER beat this damn pitcher I’m pretty sure! I’d rather face Marcum.

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