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Chicago Cubs vs. Chicago White Sox Preview, Monday 6/20, 7:10 CT: The City Series Returns

This photo is here just because it's pretty: a general view of Wrigley Field at sunset as the Chicago Cubs take on the New York Yankees on June 19, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

For the first 12 seasons (1997-2008) of the White Sox/Cubs interleague rivalry, all of the games were played when one of the two teams, or both, had winning records and were postseason contenders. Either the Cubs, or Sox, or both, went to the postseason in 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2008 and contended in 2001 and 2004.

That changed the last two years; both teams struggled in 2009 and in 2010, they met at Wrigley Field in early June with nearly identical sub-.500 records. The Sox took two of three in that series and the only loss -- the near no-hitter by Ted Lilly on June 13 -- was followed up by a Sox 11-game winning streak and a rush into contention.

This year, not so much for either team. We don't have to rehash the Cubs mess here. The Sox look good for a few games (such as their series win this past weekend in Arizona), but then they, too, struggle. At three games under .500 they trail in a weak AL Central by 5.5 games.

So this series doesn't have the buzz that Cubs/White Sox series have had in the past, no matter how mainstream sportswriters are trying to create it. Good seats were available via the White Sox website as of this morning and many StubHub listings are near or at face value.

The Sox lead the all-time series 41 wins to 37. Time to get closer to evening up that score, at least.

Cubs lineup:

Fukudome RF, Castro SS, DeWitt LF, Ramirez 3B, Peña 1B, Soriano DH, Soto C, LeMahieu 2B, Campana CF

White Sox lineup:

Pierre lf, Vizquel 2b, Quentin rf, Konerko 1b, Dunn DH, Ramirez ss, Pierzynski c, Rios cf, Teahen 3b

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Carlos Zambrano
Carlos Zambrano
Cubs
vs. Gavin Floyd
Gavin Floyd
White Sox
5-4 W-L 6-6
4.59 ERA 3.94
67 SO 66
35 BB 22
8 HR 9
vs. Sox -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Carlos Zambrano 5-4 16 15 0 0 0 0 96.0 94 50 49 8 35 67 4.59 1.34


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Gavin Floyd 6-6 14 13 1 0 0 0 89.0 84 41 39 9 22 66 3.94 1.19

OK, if YOU want to talk about Carlos Zambrano's last start at the Cell, you go right ahead. I'm not going there. Instead, let's talk about this June 22, 2007 game where he threw eight innings there, gave up just one run, and struck out 12... OK, so you're not buying this. Big Z has a pretty poor record at the Cell, a 5.88 ERA in seven appearances. Plus, he's probably not happy that he won't be able to hit tonight or in his next start at Kansas City. And not only that, he's reunited with one of his biggest nemeses tonight, Adam Dunn; Dunn has seven HR off Z in 81 plate appearances (along with 18 walks).

Gavin Floyd was the opposition to Ted Lilly in that June 13, 2010 game where Ted nearly threw a no-hitter. Floyd threw eight strong innings in that game and has a 1.20 ERA in two lifetime starts vs. the Cubs. Current Cubs are hitting just .146 (6-for-41) against him. Clearly, we are doomed.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago (Len & Bob) and WCIU (Sox announcers). Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

Baseball-reference.com game preview

SB Nation game preview

Please visit our SB Nation White Sox site South Side Sox. Please be careful over there, though.

Today's first pitch thread will be up at 7 pm CDT and the overflow threads will post at 8 pm, 9 pm and 9:45 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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GO GO WHITE SOX!

I won’t be watching the game tonight. Have fun!

by DrCrawdad on Jun 20, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

HELL NO!!!

You See This Cup! You SEE IT?

THIS IS THE BP CROSSTOWN CUP AND YOU’RE GONNA HAVE TO PRY IT OUT OF MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!!!

WWOZ.org - New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Station

by Gibbon Jockey on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting plan

You might try this tonight, The White Sox Game Thread Drinking Game:

1. One drink for every runner left on base.
2. Two drinks for every double play the Sox hit into.

There may be other rules but when I play it I’m too drunk to follow them.

by DrCrawdad on Jun 20, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

3. one drink everytime the Cubs fail

I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?

by VegasCubFan on Jun 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

One drink for every Cubs error

And one for every Cubs batter who fails to advance a RISP.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 20, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you trying to kill us with these rules?

It never gets to be easy.
Why the fuck doesn't it ever get to be easy?

by chitownhawkeye on Jun 20, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

house rules...you decide!!!

I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?

by VegasCubFan on Jun 20, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drinking game results...

Sox: 9 drinks (a lighter than normal night for the Sox)
Cubs: 4 drinks

by DrCrawdad on Jun 21, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait.

Did something happen at Z’s last start at the Cell?

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Jun 20, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I know.....

WWOZ.org - New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Station

by Gibbon Jockey on Jun 20, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not offensive if

some people are willing to laugh and pretend it’s true!

by SenorGato on Jun 20, 2011 5:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

THIS!!!!!

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.

by eswan9 on Jun 20, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This DeWitt business is starting to remind me of the end of Neifi's days.

Where everyone was so confused as to why he was playing. At least they ended up dumping him on Detroit.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

...

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's like I've seen this before

I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?

by VegasCubFan on Jun 20, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quick everyone ignore that neifi was a

historically bad hitter!!! Dewitt is one of The Reasons!!!!

by SenorGato on Jun 20, 2011 5:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

DeWitt's career OPS+ is 90.

Which is, you know, bad.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Manager Quade

do you actually look at Mr. DeWitt’s stats? They’re horrible vs. RHP His OPS is .620 against them. He’s also reputed to not being a good fielding LF. Under those circumstances, perhaps you can enlighten those Cub fans who like to feel you are trying to level the playing field for our team.

PS. I already have a nickname so I won’t be needing one from you. Finally, your efforts have forced me to give you a one. Fortunately, Al’s code of conduct prevent me from using it on his blog.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it...

…poopyface?

With the 1st pick in the 2012 Baseball Amateur Draft, the Chicago Cubs select...

by Easy Ed on Jun 20, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

If these games are the ONLY games we win the rest of the year...

…I’m good with it. I despise that team. I want their asses KICKED. 5 outta 6 would be superb. Nothing less than 4 outta 6 tho.

With the 1st pick in the 2012 Baseball Amateur Draft, the Chicago Cubs select...

by Easy Ed on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 20, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

So far this season my range of fandom has gone back and forth through excitement to sadness to apathetic

Please don’t make me move to the next step which is openly rooting against this team.

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 20, 2011 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

When the hell were you excited?

And why?

blah blah TWSS blah blah.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh you

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will stare at this forever.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because I am a typical Cubs fan

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops that should say typical neurotic cubs fan

Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."

by Fat Punk Kicker on Jun 20, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Ms. Muskie

told him Soriano was reactivated and making a push to be on the All Star team.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exciting times indeed.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually felt flush

when I read her column.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I peed a little

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jun 20, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

For DeWitt to start

over Reed Johnson is just plain stupid. I am tired of bringing up DeWitts numbers for the last 2-3 weeks cause it just gets old. He is an infielder, he has dropped 40 points off of his batting average and Reed Johnson is Reed Johnson.
 I try to give Quade a chance but this is plain dumb.
 Despite this, please beat the Sox

by Grockcubs on Jun 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

How bad is Blake DeWitt?

He’s hitting .205 when ahead in the count.
He has 3 BB in 118 ABs.
He has 1 RBI in 64 ABs in June.
He has started 15/18 games in June.

All the above qualifies him for a 3 year NC contract with a sizable increase from JH.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

*swoons.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Avatar provided courtesy of AndrewJStone.

by eswan9 on Jun 20, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a fair point.

GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.

by shoemile on Jun 20, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we were assurred

that our GM and manager were doing a splendid job because they were working very hard.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

so Attendance>winning?

I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?

by VegasCubFan on Jun 20, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

/Tom Ricketts

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Jun 20, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tom

May you have continued success in your next endeavor that daddy buys for you.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pathetic

It is bad enough when the team isn’t very good. But when you consistently run line-ups out there that aren’t even close to your best…you are asking to lose. I feel like, somewhere, Jim Frey is giving me the finger again. And you can take that shit right downtown and PRINT IT!

The sun is up. They sky is blue. It's beautiful, and so are you. Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play? ~Lennon & McCartney

by SouthWabashSoul on Jun 20, 2011 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

For once, I'm glad I'm out of town and can't watch the games.

I hate this series. Hate it hate it hate it.

Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.

by drewishdrewid on Jun 20, 2011 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I had to come into Chicago for a family funeral this weekend

and tonight I’ll be watching the game with the family, mostly all Sox fans on the South Side. Can it get any better than that? Fortunately they’ll all be drunk by the 2nd inning and I plan on emptying their wallets.

If a quality pitching start is 3 runs and 6 innings, then a quality hitting day is 1 for 4.

by tharr on Jun 20, 2011 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Jokes on you.

Sox fans don’t have money!

"That might be how you roll at Camp Anawanna, Budnick. But where I come from, we only salute Old Glory." -moroots on May 23rd

by South Side Expat on Jun 20, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's one to make us feel better:

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Jun 20, 2011 6:41 PM CDT reply actions  

To which I respond

"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

by U-God on Jun 20, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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