2011 Cubs MLB Draft: Welcome to SS Javier Baez!
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 3:16 AM CDT
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With the ninth pick in the MLB Amateur Draft yesterday, the Cubs selected shortstop Javier Baez from Arlington County Day School in Jacksonville, Florida. The Cubs selected Baez with the hope that one day he could be the kind of middle-of-the-order hitter that the team so desperately needs.
Getting some biographical information out of the way, Baez was born in Bayamon, Puerto Rico and moved to Florida in 2005. His brother, Rolando Agosto, was a 15th round pick of the Padres in 2002. His high school coach is his legal guardian, although the word is that he is still in contact with his mother.
Baez was not on scouts' radar until last June when he showed up at a regional showcase game. He wowed the scouts there so much that he was immediately invited to a national showcase the next week, where scouts praised his skills and competitiveness. Since then he's been scouted extensively, including over a 150 scouts who were on hand to see Arlington County Day play Francisco Lindor's (who went one pick earlier to Cleveland) Monteverde Academy in February.
The scouts saw a very athletic shortstop with a crazy-good bat. Baseball America said he had the fastest bat in the draft through the hitting zone. That speed allows him to wait longer on pitches. He hits the ball hard and projects to hit for both average and power. He likes to pull the ball with authority, but Cubs Scouting Director Tim Wilken says that Baez will adjust his approach and go the other way with two strikes on him. That makes sense to me, since I've read one report that says he's a dead pull hitter and another that claimed he had gap-to-gap power.
The Cubs have been putting his high school stats out, and while I think high school stats overall are pretty meaningless, I'll repeat them and let you decide: In 115 plate appearances this season, Baez hit .771 with 20 doubles, six triples and 22 home runs and 28 steals. He walked 32 times and struck out only three times.
Clearly his best tool is his bat, and he knows it. He told his hometown paper, the Florida Times-Union, that "My bat is going to take me where I'm going. But I also need to be more consistent with the little things at the plate that really make a difference." His swing is a little long, but his bat speed has kept that from being a problem. There are a few wiggles in his stance that need to be cleaned up, but nothing major.
One criticism of his bat is that he's been accused of having a "swing hard, swing often" approach. Some scouts have questioned his plate discipline. While the scouts might be right about that, personally, I think it's hard to judge a thing like that from high school games. But Baez might need to alter his approach a bit when he starts facing better pitchers regularly. Whether he can do so will go a long way in determining whether he becomes a productive major leaguer.
Baez has a strong arm and good hands on defense. Right now he's a good defensive shortstop, although most scouts think that at 6'1" 205 lbs., he simply isn't going to have the quickness or range to stay at shortstop as he ages. The Cubs will certainly start him out in the minors at shortstop, but eventually he'll likely move to third base. Some think he could play second base, although his strong arm wouldn't be as useful there. He has caught some in high school and a few scouts were interested in making him a catcher. I haven't heard the Cubs talking about that and personally, I think it would be a dumb move because he'd have to spend a lot of time learning to catch in the minors which would likely hurt his development as a hitter.
His speed is his only tool that doesn't project to be above average. He is considered to be an intelligent baserunner, however.
The biggest knock on Baez is not his plate discipline or his foot speed, but rather his makeup. There have been a lot of reports that he's prone to emotional outbursts on the field. He's also been called cocky and a showboat. He certainly doesn't lack confidence, as he has the MLB logo tattooed onto the back of his neck.
None of this really bothers me at all. When I'm looking at makeup concerns about amateur player, I want to know two things. The first is does the kid work hard at the game? From all accounts, Baez does. Just looking at him you can tell he keeps himself in excellent shape. He seems dedicated to improving himself in the game. A few scouts say his mind drifts a little in the field and that his showboating shows a lack of seriousness, but I don't think it's anything more than being a kid.
The second thing I want to know is does the kid get in trouble with authority? Either the law, his school or his coaches? I haven't read anything saying that Baez has had any problem with anything like that. Everything else, to me, is just youth. The Cubs, for the record, say that they see his "fiery attitude" as a plus rather than a minus.
Baez is a high school hitter, so don't expect to see him in Wrigley anytime soon. He's a long-term prospect who probably won't be in The Show until 2015 if he makes it.
I have to admit that I'm very happy with this pick. I've been intrigued by Baez's bat for weeks now and while I admit I hoped that some of the bigger names would drop to us, I would have taken Baez if I were picking for the Cubs the way the draft fell. On the MLB Network broadcast, they were comparing him to Hanley Ramirez and Gary Sheffield. Don't get too carried away: the MLB Network made every player drafted yesterday sound like he was just a couple steps away from Cooperstown. But when I was researching Baez last week, I kept thinking to myself "This kid sounds a lot like Aramis Ramirez." I think he's a little more athletic than Ramirez. His swing is a bit different and he could be a better glove. But I think we'd all be pretty happy if he turned out to be a similar player to Ramirez.
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Regarding Catching
I figure that will be in the back of the team’s mind. If he hits like he should and is looking middle of the order-good, no problem. Keep him at second or third if his glove plays there. If his bat is lagging, if you have to try catcher, he can go all Robbie Chirinos in a few years if needed.
Like the pick.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Power
I have never seen a MLB baseball team so devoid of power. Kelleher and Rosello put this club to shame. Hate to be negative but Hendry and his multiple managerial choices and free agent signings make me sick
And this has what to do with the draft choice?
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Nothing but
isn’t the new rule that every posting must have negative comments.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
Remember back when...
…every thread had to mention Sam Fuld? Good times, good times.
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by daver on Jun 7, 2011 12:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And those times are back again, apparently...
Thanks, Daver!
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Keeping the dream alive!
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by daver on Jun 7, 2011 12:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hit tool?
Josh or anyone else- have you seen a report on Baez’s hit tool on the 20-80 scale? I haven’t been able to find anything and am curious.
Thanks again Josh for all your work on the site- much appreciated!
by cubfan1982 on Jun 7, 2011 6:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Future hit tool is probably about 55-60, IMO
He’ll hit for a decent average, probably around .275 – .290. His real strength is going to be how his bat plays at a premium position (SS or 2B) or how his glove plays at 3B.
He should either be an okay defender at SS/2B with a great bat or a good bat at 3B with above average defense.
Hit tool?
Inquisitive Germans would like to know.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Abilities are scored on a 20-80 scale
with 20 low and 80 high.
Various skills are scored. Power (hitting ability), baserunning, throwing arm, defense (except for arm), and hit(ting ability) are the 5 tools.
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TY
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
You're profanity welcome
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
On top of that, I believe that 40-45 is an average major leaguer
While 80 is hall of fame player, 70 is perennial all star, 60 is above average/all star 50 is above average player, 40 is helpful major league player, typically not starter quality, and down from there.
What's slot for nine?
Working down from my 6 million permitted bonus dollars.
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I'm more comfortable with this pick
now that I’ve read about the older brother. He went to college, was drafted after his junior year, and played a year and a half in the Padres’ system. Good glove, excellent eye, couldn’t hit. My guess is with the money Javier will be getting, his older brother will come along and live with him in Arizona and early stops. Rolando even played in the Pioneer League. The news reports in Florida say that although the coach is Javier’s legal guardian, and he stays connected to his mom, he seems to idolize or at least tolerate his older brother. His MLB tattoo matches Rolando’s. Now there can be problems if the stage mom batting coach dad mentor brother interferes with coaching, but if he just provides some stability, it will probably be a very good thing.
No one should be untouchable on this roster unless his name is Eliot Ness...or Starlin Castro.
Prediction
The Cubs will take Charlie Tilson (from New Trier HS) with their 2nd round pick if he is still on the board then.
Just a hunch.
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That's my gut feeling as well
And the gut was right on the money with Baez. He’s a Wilken pick as well. I would prefer quite a few guys before Tilson, though, as he is supposed to be a pretty hard sign. He doesn’t have a ton of power potential either.
I want something more
but agree he could be Wilken pick. However, if they go overslot in Round 2 then go for more upside (Norris or Fisher?).
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
Personally I’m happy with our pick. I wanted Bubba but knew we wouldn’t get him,and I don’t think KC will be able to sign em as he is going to be starting qb for Nebraska. My second choice was Javier Baez and I think he’s a 30 hour potential future 3b for us. Also as stated 285-295 avg with solid defense. That to me sounds great!
by bleedinblue76 on Jun 7, 2011 8:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
With how the top 8 shook out
Baez was my #1 pick available. That bat is something we desperately needed in this system.
Who I would love to see taken at 68
(Josh Bell and Matt Purke not included, as both appear unsignable)
1. Daniel Norris, LHP – The prep arm has a big bonus demand, but with Baez reportedly willing to take around slot, we need to pony up if he’s there. Norris has 3 potential plus pitches and already throws mid-90’s with his heater. As we all know, a TOR potential lefty would benefit the system immensely.
2. Derek Fisher, OF – Another prep player that wants a bigger bonus ($2 million+), who has potential through the roof. We just need to continue stockpiling impact talent.
3. Josh Osich, LHP – The lefty out of Oregon State missed time with TJS, I believe, but came back really strong. He outdueled #3 pick Trevor Bauer by throwing a no-no with 11 Ks. He has good stuff for a lefty and could be a fast riser through the system.
4. Anthony Meo, RHP – Too lazy to write anything about him. He’s a college righty with two potential plus pitches. Good #2 potential if he keeps developing a change.
5. Dillon Howard, RHP – Another prep arm with good stuff and projectability
I hope all (or at least one) of those names is on the board when we pick.
On Bell’s and Purke’s (who I hope is our pick) demands, how much of this is posturing?? With the threat of a hard slotting system looming, I would think their leverage is rather mitigated. Surely they’ll need first round money, but can they really risk passing up a $3-4M bonus that could easily get halved by the slotting system the next time they are picked?
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I don't think there is much posturing at all
Purke already turned down $4 million from the Rangers, so he feels like he needs to get at least that. Bell sounds like he legitimately wants to go to school. Can’t fault a guy for that.
Thanks Ryno.
FWIW, I don’t ‘fault’ Bell at all. More power to anyone who genuinely wants to go to school.
Can Purke really think he’ll get 4? If the slotting system gets put in place, he won’t get that the next time, right?
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I don't know
I haven’t heard what the proposed hard slotting numbers would be. But if Purke gets everything back and dominates next year at TCU, he could legitimately be the #1 pick. I find it hard to believe that the hard slot for a #1 pick would be less than $4 million.
Still a big gamble on his part, but his pride might be on the line a bit here.
That's fair.
Still seems like quite a gamble. It would seem wiser to jump at a $2.5-3M offer this year. But I guess we’ll see soon enough.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Hypothetical question...
for Josh or anyone else draft-savvy.
Let’s assume that this draft was scouted as being very poor in top-tier talent while next year’s draft is looking really good. Let’s also assume that Bubba Starling has a huge asking price and scouts are mixed on his upside. Is it strategically coherent for a team like the Nationals or Pirates (a few years away from contention) to draft Starling with the intention of NOT signing him and getting two high draft picks in a more loaded class the following year?
It could be.
Though there was an injury to the player they picked, there were some rumblings that Arizona had that thought was in play when they didn’t sign their 2010 first round pick (which netted them the 7th pick this year).
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
And turned into a jackpot for them.
They turned Barret Loux into Archie Bradley. I rate Bradley just a shade behind Jameson Taillon, the #2 pick in last year’s draft.
prospect guys like Keith Law
have suggested the lost year of development from a top prospect, ultimately outweighs the difference in talent between the two picks. There was some speculation that the DBacks may have done this intentionally last year with Barret Loux’s shaky medicals
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
There's too much risk in doing something like that
Last year, people were predicting that this year’s draft was going to be one of the best ever. It’s still considered a strong draft, but no one thinks it’s one of the all time greats. Second, your pick the next year is unprotected, meaning that you have to sign the guy you take or you lose the pick. Finally, you never know when MLB is going to change the rules on you.
Yeah, there were some rumors that the D-Backs did that with Loux last season.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Having seen video of his glove work
I can see why moving him to 3B would be ideal. Not only will his solid frame limit his range, but he’s not as fluid as you’d like to see from a SS. Superb arm though, that should play very well at 3B. He’ll most likely be a better 3B than A.Ramirez is now with the same type of hitting ability. Let’s keep him out of trouble and see what he can do.
Also, if you want to see a good comparison on how SS should be played, go watch some footage of Lindor. Down right amazing with the glove. You’ll see the difference between him and Baez. Baez’s glove work is fine, he just lacks the fluidity and explosiveness that Lindor does.
Not fair to compare him to Lindor
Lindor has been called the best defensive prep SS ever.
I'm simply showing the difference between
an elite SS glove vs. an iffy SS glove for the people who wouldn’t know the difference at first glance. It’s obvious that Lindor is the superior glove, and I made it clear that Baez will be moving to 3B. So in that regard, it’s completely fair to compare the two so that some may better understand what it takes to stick at SS in the big leagues.
And just to clarify
You don’t have to be as good as Lindor to play SS in the Major Leagues. That’s just what elite SS’s look like. But Baez lacks the fluidity and range to be an average SS in the bigs. That’s all.
Anybody know how Baez earned the impatient tag
Considering he walked 32 times in 115 PA? Were many of those walks IBB?? Also, very jealous of these teams with a jillion picks before we select our second player!!!!!!
by daily2b on Jun 7, 2011 10:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mostly because he is an aggressive hitter
He “grips it and rips it”. Fits right in with this organization. He seems to have a good grasp of the strike zone, however.
The teams with "a jillion picks"
…. lost several type A or type B free agents this past offseason. The Cubs didn’t have players like that. The only one they could have had, arguably, was Ted Lilly, instead of trading him.
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Would gladly sacrifice anyone with free agent status for multiple 1st rounders...
not likely to happen anytime soon, but that does NOTHING to soothe the green beast that lives inside me.
The Rays only had Brad Hawpe for like 15 games in Sept.
…and turned him into an extra sandwich pick.
The Cubs just don’t like getting extra picks through the arb/decline process, even when the opportunity is there.
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by D98 on Jun 7, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
A bunch of idiot teams...
offered their relievers stupid amounts of money… and they’re reaping the benefits today, while still putting together a winning ballclub.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
And Meo goes at 63 to AZ.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
And Dillon Howard to Cleveland.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Haha
First thought that came to my mind as well.
Scouting video.
Here
Consider me un-inspired.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Not a bad pick at all
It’s just that I have been on the Norris bandwagon for a longgg time now. Ugh.
Vogelbach
A very non-Wilken pick. Surprising. The bat is definately legit, however. I don’t love it, with Norris sitting there, but much better than a low-ceilinged player
Sounds like
The Cubs are drafting power this year.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Fine by me
A white guy that is Prince Fielder-esque is alright by me.
He sent a letter to everyone
saying he wants $1.65 million to sign.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
That's fine
Get it done quickly and get him in the system.
Exactly
Get him in the system and start working on getting in shape.
May need to keep him away from Reggie Golden.
He's got a great workout regimen.
He used to be 288 pounds and got down to 245 or so this year. Has easy power and hits everything hard. Good scouting report here:
Scouting Report
That is an encouraging scouting report.
But a rather unflattering photo.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Was he playing football?
Just wondering. It could explain his weight if he were a lineman.
by jerry morales rules on Jun 7, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Since people love making excuses...
wouldn’t that have been in there somewhere?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw that report
It is great that he took it on himself to get in better shape. He should be a great candidate for Camp Colvin this year.
He's also more like 6'1 6'2 than 6'
If he can get to 230-240 he’ll be just fine as a 1B.
C'mon, make a draft pick...STRETCH!
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by daver on Jun 7, 2011 12:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Worthless garbage organization
Will suck forever with picks like this. Simpson is a complete zero and now we pass on Norris.
"Go Cubs!"
Easy there, killer
Norris could easily drop to round 3 or farther with his bonus demands. He wants $4 million and most won’t pay that. I’m sure Wilken will find a few good arms later on today. He’s pretty damn good at finding pitching late. I’m actually stoked we got 2 potential impact bats early on. We needed this power.
McNutt in the 32nd?
Whitenack in the 8th?
ummm...
wouldn’t the same apply to being so negative on the picks now?
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I agree, let's wait and see about people before saying things like...
this stiff will never eat his way to Wrigley
We'll all miss you Ron.
Ah, good ol' Itchy.
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It's not hard to weather a storm...
…from the engine room of a submerged ship.
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by daver on Jun 7, 2011 12:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
5' 10" 270
No more needs to be said, but this stiff will never eat his way to Wrigley. Another wasted garbage pick, just like last year.
"Go Cubs!"
He's supposedly already lost some of that weight
Like 25-30 lbs worth. But his bat potential is terrific. I said it up above, but think of a white, young Prince Fielder.
Yessirree
Wants an above-slot bonus. Last I heard was around $1.5 million or so.
whats tge report on the kid?
What type of production potential are we talking?
Send him to Camp Colvin
big kid. We don’t have the DH in the NL just yet…
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=18674140&content_id=15218331
Tough signs
All of the players they are drafting are tough signs. They don’t seem to want their draft picks this year.
Go become a Jays fan then
You’re just looking to troll here, and it’s not wanted. Go write in a diary, the only person who cares to hear what you’re saying here seems to be you.
Itchy has always been thus
He just seems to show up here because he needs to be scratched
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow
invited all Cub fans to become Giants fans last night. They said we could go back to being Cub fans when the Cubs got good again.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Those two are great in the booth.
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I enjoy those guys
However, once you win your first championship in 60 years, you can no longer be considered a kindred franchise
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
Just pointing out the truth
I am tried of hearing how great our minor league organization is, yet we can’t produce a single viable starting pitcher to fill in when someone goes down and resort to sacks of shit like Davis and Lopez. Tried of people pumping sunshine when there ain’t anything there but busts.
"Go Cubs!"
Try and follow the system.
It’s very clear to anyone who has any knowledge of our farm system that you’re glancing over the top and skimming AAA and not seeing anything so you proclaim it all “crap” and “busts.”
It simply makes you look uninformed – it’s as if you’re throwing a tantrum. Also, if you can avoid calling players “sacks of shit” in the future, it’d be appreciated.
by bdlugz on Jun 7, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cards take Tilson
He’s a tough sign. They are just zeroing in on the complimentary types this draft, apparently.
They shouldn't be
There is no upside at all with either of those guys.
wait a minute
other organizations have crappy draft picks? I thought that was only allowed with the Cubs Brain Trust
The Pirates aren't getting Bell...
no way he passes on Texas for whatever the Pirates offer him. He’ll take a mulligan.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
what I dont get
(and I know the two drafts are different) is why MLB can get through 70 picks in about 3 hours when it takes the NFL about 5 to get through the first 30.
There are a lot more ads to fit in for the NFL draft
and the teams have 15 minutes to pick players, rather than the MLB’s five minutes.
Baseball America on Vogelbach
Vogelbach is not a good runner, but he helped Bishop Verot win the Florida 3-A championship for the first time since 1994 when he scampered home from second base with the winning run on a deflected single by Hudson Boyd—a likely top-two-rounds pick as a pitcher. Vogelbach hit 17 homers in 32 games and has some of the best lefthanded power in the draft due to excellent strength and a sound, loose swing. He put it on display last December at the annual Power Showcase—the event made famous by Bryce Harper’s 502-foot homer—by launching one 508 feet with a metal bat and won the event. He is more than a masher, with solid hitting ability and a fairly polished approach. But at 6 feet, 240 pounds, Vogelbach has work to do physically and will never be thought of as athletic. He has trimmed up in the last year, particularly since last summer’s East Coast Pro Showcase, when he weighed more than 280 pounds. Vogelbach is limited to first base and may be limited to the American League, but he may hit his way into the firs three rounds. He’s committed to Florida.
I dunno about this one...
but I guess it will be fine, as long as we keep Prince Fielder and him from getting in the same elevator.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Reinforce the elevators in the new Triangle Building!!!!!!!!!!
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
by fsuapollo on Jun 7, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i dont know
maybe the stairs should be required for him and prince
flippity floppity floop
by jesus christos on Jun 7, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
FYI everyone... Cubs up again in just a couple picks. A couple of guys still on Ryno's list still available.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I would poo myself
if we snagged Fisher or Osich
Hope that's the way it goes... without you needing to soil yourself!
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Damn, there goes Brickhouse...
Royals are making me a sad panda this draft.
And Purke to Washington.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Atta boy, KC!
Hoooooo-eeeee!
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by daver on Jun 7, 2011 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As someone said on Twitter
Purke+Rendon+Strasburg+Harper is simply unreal. Part of me would kind of like to see them sign Purke…
by Dayton Cubbie on Jun 7, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
everyone salivating over Purke
need to realize he very well might be broken, like forever…
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I completely understand this
and yet its still exciting to see a team (even if its not my time) accumulate that kinf of talent (when its healthy).
by Dayton Cubbie on Jun 7, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
So what...
They got him with a 3rd rounder! Don’t forget they had a second 1st rounder and a sandwich pick too, to make up for whatever Rendon and Purke don’t turn into.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
the point being
its a high risk/reward pick. As much upside as there is, there’s ample downside and wasted money.
1 Pitch can change a pitchers value forever and that may have already happened with Purke even though its tantalizing to remember what he was
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The MLB draft...
is a bunch of “wasted money” for every team, every year… I’d rather waste money on guys like Purke than the other 99% of the guys drafted. Again, he’s just their 3rd rounder. Since we’re just talking about money, he’s a no-risk/high-reward pick.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
opportunity cost as well
but yeah i understand where you’re coming from.
for me i’d rather have the upside from a younger or rawer prospect than a potentially broken one
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
And I'm not indifferent to that...
but having Rendon, Meyer and Goodwin before that makes this a much easier “gamble”, no matter what the cost.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
But didn't he already turn down the Ranger's offer of $4 million
He’ll likely command more than that, even injured as he is
by Dayton Cubbie on Jun 7, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not
But he thinks he is, and that’s all that matters
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll have to go overslot for him...
and they should. But with his injury, there’s going to be a # less than $4m that will convince him to sign. If he doesn’t sign, then he doesn’t.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
And the Nationals screw us again!
Purke would have been amazing 3rd round value… wow are the Nats setting themselves up well. Thank god they’re the Nats.
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Osich is my guy! let s get it done wilken!
Or Fischer.
Wow. Nats are making me hate them...for drafting well..
We still may be able to take Purke with our first rounder next season.
Well, there's the Wilken pick
Was waiting for that one. Hate it
Blech. Will root for him obviously, but... meh at best.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Former Red Sox pick in the 38th, can't find much on him...
Haven’t followed him at all.
It was 2 years ago (I believe) that I played against him so my memory is a tad fuzzy
But if memory serves me correct he was pretty fast and had some pop too.
We'll all miss you Ron.
I actually like DeVoss
Leadoff hitter type. Lefty. Quick. Takes a walk. Steals bases.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Takes a what???
We’re talking about baseball here… there’s no walks in baseball!
With 2 huge upside picks in the first 2 rounds
It’s tough to get too upset with Wilken.
That's a bit harsh... he's got the ability to be good, just not huge upside
And there is still a TON of pitching left that is extremely impressive.
So start picking it.
The analysis of the pick on MLB started with “well, nothing stands out, but he plays defense well”.
That’s not a third round pick kind of description (while acknowledging that those guys hardly no everything).
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
*know, of course.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
John Manuel
said DeVoss boosted his stock with a huge ACC tourney and that he D has improved enough that he could stick at 2B.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I heard as well
He takes tons of walks, so at least he will add something the system is lacking.
The question is
Did we have any scouts outside of the state of Florida?
Admittedly, if you’re going to pick one state, that’s a good one to pick. But . . .
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Was thinking the same thing.
Still, I can’t complain about the draft so far.
at 2B?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He's listed as a CF
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Alright all, need to run for a bit again...
I expect about the 10th round I’ll be back to see what we’ve come up with. Good luck all.
Checked out his stats
This guy walked 57 times and had 11 HBP in in 61 games. Seems like we always complain about guys getting on base. Lets give him a chance.
by Shakedown Street on Jun 7, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
Damn
A’s take Vollmuth. I was hoping he would fall to the 4th.
Is there anywhere on mlb.com
That has an ongoing “Best Available” list. I can’t seem to find it…
Not sure they keep it updated
But they had a link on the front page going into today
For those wondering, this was that list:
Rank Player School Pos.
15 Daniel Norris Science Hill HS LHP
18 Dillon Howard Searcy HS RHP
23 Josh Bell Jesuit College Prep OF
26 Anthony Meo Coastal Carolina RHP
27 Matthew Purke TCU LHP
31 Austin Hedges Juniper Serra HS C
35 Andrew Susac Oregon St. C
37 Alex Dickerson Indiana OF
39 Peter O’Brien Bethune-Cookman C
40 Jason Esposito Vanderbilt 3B/SS
41 Derek Fisher Cedar Crest HS OF
42 Nick Delmonico Farragut HS C/1B
44 Charlie Tilson New Trier HS (Ill) OF
46 Ricky Oropesa USC 3B/1B
50 Josh Osich Oregon St. LHP
Let me know if anyone sees one that is being updated throughout the draft. Thanks!
by Dayton Cubbie on Jun 7, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Players left as of pick 114.
Fisher
Delmonico
Oropeca
Osich
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Oropesa off the board
Wilken wouldn’t draft him anyway
Jays take a gamble on Stilson
Good for him. I hope he gets his money.
Haha
Cards take another low ceiling player in C.J. McElroy. He’s a speedy, no-power CFer.
I Don't know
He’s doing enough this year to not write him off but he’s not doing enough to get excited about him.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not an expert
But I feel the same as Josh. He’s hanging in there, but you’d like to see more from him.
Second half
will be huge for Vitters, IMO. He has a little over 400 AA at-bats now, and needs to show a little more.
by Shakedown Street on Jun 7, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The star is 'fading', but his issue is he hasn't been amazing.
There are things to like (low K, unlucky with BABIP) and dislike (disappointing power and low walk).
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Well, they did pick a pitcher.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Though a reliever, apparently.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Color me apathetic
So we are collectively suffering through potentially the worst Cub season in years and I’m supposed to give a whoop about the Cubs drafting a high school SS who has perhaps a 30-40% chance of turning into a productive major leaguer by 2015??? Sorry if I don’t pop open the bubbly—-
Then kindly leave
Nobody asked you to be here.
What's the alternative?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously a guy ready by 2012 with a 100% chance of turning into a productive major leaguer?
Is that too much to ask for Ricketts?!?!
There's nothing the Cubs could've done yesterday
to fix this season or even next.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
ya
if you are following a draft to see difference makers for next season you are watching the WRONG draft
That's fine.
Just leave the bottle on your way out.
Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.
by daver on Jun 7, 2011 1:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Tony Zych
Not crazy about adding a reliever, but he’s definately a great one
Tony Zych
Anyone know anything about him?
Throws 99 mph
Reliever. Was talked about as a sandwich round pick so that’s good.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
mlb.com guys described him as a live arm with upper 90s heat.
But had an up and down year. Control is an issue, apparently.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
I hope Wilken has some big time upside pitchers
for later on. Like big time upside, because he’s been passing on the obvious ones.
A name to remember is Ian Gardeck
He’s a big time JuCo prospect. Monster fastball.
This could mean
That they really love all those young guys they brought in from the Dominican. Thought I remembered reading about 12 pitchers or so being brought in. Josh or anyone know what I am talking about?
by Shakedown Street on Jun 7, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got here
So to recap, we picked up a…
white Prince Fielder, a 2nd baseman, and a reliever?
So he's a 2B...
and not a CF?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He's both
some argument as to which he’ll play in the pros.
by Josh Timmers on Jun 7, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring on the power
Not loving the 2nd baseman pick at all..
You got the power in the first 2 picks
Can’t expect Wilken to completely change his draft philosophy for every pick.
And Zych is a power arm
Albeit, out of the bullpen
I like this pick
We need to stock up on Starters. Like right now.
No, but it's Wilken
He tends to waste a 3rd or 4th rounder on a speedster, so it should have been expected.
This Vogelbach guys seems to have a slow bat
Very un-Prince Fielder like. Great fastballs are going to challenge him. Maybe it’s just some bad video. I hope.
I think it's bad video
The reports say he has a very quick bat.
He has a very fast bat and loose, easy swing.
What video you watching??
Great news
Let’s hope it’s true. Dude looks to have goliath power. Sweet.
I'll take me a fat 1st baseman!
Fielder I & II… Kruk…. Ruth… ok with me!
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Well... the fat f'er should've played 1st. LOL.
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
One thing I forgot to mention about Baez
If you want confirmation that it was a good pick. Go over to the “evil” BCB and see what Brewers fans were saying when the Cubs took Baez. They were pissed.
I don't think I've heard of anything...
I care about less this side of NBF or SG than what Brewers fans think.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
There were a lot of rumors that the Brewers were working on a predraft agreement with Baez. A Brewer fan I talk to said he really wanted Baez because he would essentially replace Brett Lawrie in their system as the high-upside bat without a defined position.
The profile on Baez is interesting
If the kid can improve his plate discipline, his hitting approach sounds an awful lot like Jose Bautista.
by TakeoutArtist on Jun 7, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Still plenty of guys left I like
Burdi, O’Brien(he might have been taken, I haven’t heard) Slater, Dunston Jr, Kukuk, Maples, Ogando, Cave, Mooneyham, Dial, McCann, Osich, Delmonico
I'm gonna keep touting Ian Gardeck as well
Hit 98 with his fastball this past fall. That alone is worth a 5th rounder for me.
Peter O'Brien?
Pick 107 to Colorado
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Delmonico was talked about...
as a 1st rounder or sandwich pick to Tampa Bay, specifically. Maybe he might not be signable, but we could use a catcher that wouldn’t be a reach.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's more of a 3B or COF
The reports made it sound like he won’t stay behind the plate.
Looks like we're up soon.
Starting pitcher? Please?
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
that is why I enjoy
my draft ignorance…I know maybe 3-4 guys at the top of the draft and am clueless beyond that…
hey a RHP from Notre Dame!
high school that is…
Tayler Scott
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions
Makes you wonder whether Hendry got confused...
could be a happy accident.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
The MLB.COM guys...
had to search extra hard to find info on this guy. lol
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Committed to University of Arizona...
I’m not holding out much hope that they’ll sign him.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly had a good bat at SS as well
Can’t find a scouting report on him, though. He’s a complete unknown to me.
Taylor Scott
Hated her last video
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165? boy needs to find the weight room
And eat a couple steaks while hes at it.
I'll go on record thinking he won't
…but he probably should.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Realistically,
we shouldn’t let him get away. If we’re playing on the cheap (it looks like we are), Wrigley may have more empty seats soon.
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I have no opinion...
on whether they should overpay to keep him. I meant he should take the opportunity to get into pro ball as a 5th round pick, seeing as he has very little experience at this point. It could go good for him, could go bad. He should come be a Cub instead of a Wildcat.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe a little...
but that’s pretty big for a guy who played soccer.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully the Cubs will grab a photo of this kid next to their second rounder.
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Helps keep the avg. weight down for the class.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Keith Law said a scouting director told him
Vogelbach has lost 30 pounds and he’s still fat.
But the kid can hit. Beat Bryan Harper in a HR contest once.
I've watched a couple videos...
looks like he needs the DH. Not happy with him in the 2nd round at all, but who knows.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott moved to this country from South Africa
three years ago. He’s raw and a good soccer player but has a real projectable frame and throw in the low 90s.
I like DeVoss
and think that it’s surprising Dugas is still on the board.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Still a lot of good players out there
If only Cubs would take one of them instead of the guys no one has heard of…
We should gamble very soon
We don’t have too many guys that should take too much to sign yet.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
I'll tell you if I trust Ricketts
when I see how much we spent on draft bonuses. If we’re 4.5 million or so, I’m all for a new regime change.
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is it a matter
of the Cubs spending 4.5 for guys who are similar overall to guys who would take 6.5 to sign? No need to spend money just to prove you can spend money on draft bonuses.
forgot half of my question there
or is it that the guys who would take 6.5 to sign are leaps and bounds better?
Shows your willing to spend money...
to get the best talent available, when other teams are being cheap and passing on them.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
ok but again
is it a matter that the guys you are passing on are head and shoulders better or just more expensive?
I could buy a pure silver butter so that I could say that this knife cost $1000 as I spread butter on my bread or I could by a $.50 steel butter knife and get the same job done…
I am not a fan of the last couple of picks but if the first three or so picks were like taking a steel butter knife over a pure silver butter knife then I am glad they didnt splurge.
Yeah...
that’s not even close to the point. These guys are supposed to get paid to figure out the ones who are worth the money and get them… not let them all slide to other teams because a few million dollars are out of their budget. We’re just trying to say that money shouldn’t be the object when it comes to getting the best players. Just pick the best players and figure out how to pay them later.
You have to spend money to make money… that’s true of any business on the planet.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Ricketts won't spend on this draft
we’re screwed.
If we only spend 4.5, we should have taken more higher-upside guys. And we’re screwed.
If we spend money on restocking, my pessimism will be delayed.
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I WANT DELMONICO!!!
Just sayin’.
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Keeps other teams from getting the option to do so too.
I don’t even care whether he stays at catcher or not.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Goes to Baltimore...
who lists him as a 3B… interesting.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
LIGHTNING ROUND!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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DelMonico gone
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Saw this on another website
Top PG draft projections still not taken
Josh Osich, lhp (No. 43)
Dillon Maples, rhp (No. 48)
Kyle Winkler, rhp (No. 50)
Navery Moore, rhp (No. 56)
Matt Dean, ss (No. 60)
Maples (North Carolina), Dean (Texas) obvious signability issues; concern apparently on Osich/Moore (both TJ surgery in their past), arm injury over weekend sustained by Winkler
Neftali Rosario
a catcher
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Neftali Rosario, C, Puerto Rico BB Academy
I like the name.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Sox guy really needs a new phone.
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If they can sign him
it will give an otherwise horrible draft class a big boost.
Derek Fisher
On talent alone, probably a late first rounder. Has fairly big bonus demands.
Osich to SF
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Baseball America on Rosario
Neftali Rosario has a good throwing arm, showing 1.9-second pop times, a solid body at 5-foot-11, 195 pounds, and surprising power, as he hit eight home runs this spring.
trevor gretzky
in the 7th for us
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Maybe the budget is under 4 million
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OMG
We seriously took Gretzky’s son? What a waste of a pick
Really unimpressed with our draft so far
I wouldn’t be sad at all if Wilken left when Hendry gets canned
Isn't that what started this mess?
I’d rather see more money invested in the draft than increasing spending in FA.
Well, if we gotta wait 10 years to be good
Forget it. There’s nothing ready in the high end of the system, nothing.
"Go Cubs!"
What choice do you you have...
if you’re not going to spend money in the draft or internationally?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I'm proposing we do.
Sure, if there is a guy who is worth it in free agency, take the plunge, but too often we over pay for guys who aren’t worth it and go nowhere. A strong farm system can also be used to trade for premier players without necessarily having to pay market rates for equivalent talent.
Propose it all you want...
but that’s not what this organization is doing or has done, and certainly didn’t do with this draft. As Cubs fans, we only have to hope they sign a bunch of FAs and make some trades and hope they get it right. That’s all we can do until things change.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that this draft isn't earth shattering
and maybe that forebodes bad things as far as the Cubs’ budget. If that’s the case, there’s not going to be much spending in FA either. For what its worth, I trust Wilkins ability to find talent in the draft more than I trust Hendry’s ability to sign the right free agents at the right price.
Hopefully....
It won’t be Hendry spending it.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
...would be hard not to be.
I’m really hoping the Cubs sign FAs that maybe will be good value for the money rather than just hoping on the big guys, who they’ll be signing too.
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
the issue was/is that they spent the money on the wrong free agents
flippity floppity floop
by jesus christos on Jun 7, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So, you're unimpressed with our selections because
Some scouting report told you to be unimpressed? Nevermind that the success ratio of all MLB draftees, especially the 1st round, is absolutely horrendous.
Wilken had a run in Toronto where he selected 11 straight first-round draft picks to the major leagues. And right now, his draftees and overseas talent are already landing in Wrigley.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Which draftees?
Colvin and Cashner, right?
MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown
by D98 on Jun 7, 2011 2:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Just watched a couple Vogelbach videos.
LOL. I can’t stop laughing watching him run to first.
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Fielding at first base is pretty funny too
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey Josh
who can we realistically expect to sign from the first 7 rounds?
by AkronCubs...Why? on Jun 7, 2011 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
We'd better sign all of them
None look like they should command huge bonuses.
What if I had chosen to follow a team that had a clue?
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
this is all Ryne Sandberg’s fault. I might have grown up a White Sox fan if it weren’t for him… oh wait. THANK YOU RYNO! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
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by jameslcrockett on Jun 7, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
where is he committed to play next year
by AkronCubs...Why? on Jun 7, 2011 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
Baseball America on Gretzky
Trevor Gretzky, son of Wayne, the greatest hockey player in history. Long-levered and projectable at 6-foot-4, 190 pounds, Gretzky has plenty of holes in his swing, and his feel for hitting needs to improve. But he does have power projection and natural hand-eye coordination. He’s a poor runner who has a long way to go defensively at first base, and he’s likely to wind up at San Diego State.
I don't get it
A player of questionable talent AND he’s probably not going to sign? Why would we select him and waste a pick?
Because we're building an ice-skating rink in the Triangle Building. Duh!!!!!
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
dugas
fina profanity ly
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We love CFers....
I guess we’re hard on the path to end the drought at that position.
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Taylor Dugas is a poor man's Johnny Damon
Heckuva pick. Him and de Voss
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If only we had picked any legit pitching
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Starting pitching, anyway
Zych is about as legit as a reliever as there is in this draft.
If we're poor, then fold the damn team!
Because we have no chance with idiot Hendry and his cronies building from within, zero, none.
"Go Cubs!"
I'm starting the conspiracy theory
that they’re doing this on purpose to torture Cubs fans, and never have them win.
Alright, I'm gonna keep it going until he's picked.
Ian Gardeck in the 9th!
And what happened to Bryce Dial? I thought he was a possible 2nd rounder.
Kevin Quackenbush
fantastic name
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
followed by a Dartmouth guy
that was an irrationally fun 2 picks
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jun 7, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that a duck's va-jay-jay?
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Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
by SackMan on Jun 7, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Baseball America
Outfielder Taylor Dugas was a first-team All-American in 2010, and at 5-foot-7, 165 pounds, he’s a better college player than pro prospect. Hitting is his best skill. He has an excellent approach, having drawn 100 walks the last two seasons,. . . He’s a tough profile whose arm is just fair, and his lack of power and game-changing speed limits him long-term.
we're going to feed him to Vogelbach
"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk
we already have Campana
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Here's what I like about DeVoss and Dugas
If you’re down two heading into the ninth, and you’re sending up either one, they will take a strike. Probably two of them.
Either can steal a base, though DeVoss is quicker.
They should bat one-two for Peoria in August.
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Schlecht sounds good for 9th round
Outfielder Garrett Schlecht has the best combination of talent and signability among Illinois high school players. More physical than Charlie Tilson at 6-foot-2 and 198 pounds, Schlecht has a quick lefthanded bat and consistently barrels balls. A Middle Tennessee State recruit, he’s a decent athlete whose fringy speed and arm probably will relegate him to left field.
Kyle Winkler to AZ
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Interesting
If they sign him, that is an absolutely ridiculous pitching haul.
If his arm isn't Post Toasties
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Josh, I asked this before
May have gotten lost, do you think the way the draft has gone shows that they love the group of young pitchers in XST they have, or just BPA?
by Shakedown Street on Jun 7, 2011 2:33 PM CDT reply actions
Daniel Lockhart
Now we’re starting to get into a good run on Wilken picks.
Son of a Cubs scout
and former Atlanta Brave Keith Lockhart. He’d better sign.
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Since there is a break...
time for a new thread? Or is it unnecessary?
Dunston's kid now too...
wow.
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