Telling signs from Cubs' historical All-Star selections
I was thinking about the lack of position player depth in the Hendry years and something hit me. Other than Geovany Soto in 2008 and Starlin Castro this year, I couldn't think of a homegrown position player who made the All-Star team since Hendry became GM. Sure enough, I was right.
I did a little bit more digging, and, sure enough, the Cubs' last homegrown position player to make the All-Star before Soto in 2008 was the injury-replacement choice of Joe Girardi in 2000 (Girardi was on his second tour with the Cubs at that point). The link is from a Tribune story three years ago showing the Cubs All-Stars through the years.
Prior to that, it was Mark Grace in 1997. Grace made the team three times ('93, '95, '97). Oh, and Shawon Dunston made it in 1990. This is, again, among homegrown position players.
In other words, the Cubs have had five homegrown position players make the All-Star team in the past 21 seasons, and one of them was essentially a meaningless pick in Girardi! To be sure, the Cubs have had homegrown pitchers make the team. Oh, and I know that All-Star selections aren't exactly the best measures for success.
The point is, I doubt there is a single team in baseball with this lousy mark against it over the past 20 years. This problem existed well before Jim Hendry took over. But it's a problem that the Cubs really need to fix. When you look at the homegrown position player core of the Yankees (Jeter, Posada, Cano), the Phillies (Rollins, Utley, Howard) or even a team like Milwaukee (Braun, Fielder, Hart) ... well, it's kind of troubling.
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The point is, I doubt there is a single team in baseball with this lousy mark against it over the past 20 years.
Too bad you didn’t bother to find out, or this would’ve been an interesting post!
Feel free to look through the All-Star rosters for all 29 teams for the past 20 years if you want.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I'm not the one claiming they're comparatively bad at it
You’re basically asking me to refute a claim that you haven’t bothered to support at all.
I think the concept is a good one.
Wreckard makes a good point, however, that it is a fairly large assumption that other teams have not experienced this sort of drought without further inquiry.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Ok, I did your homework for you.
Here are teams that have developed 4 or fewer position all-stars in the last 20 years:
Diamondbacks
Orioles
White Sox
Mets
Giants
Padres
So – the Cubs are in the bottom 20%. The Padres were the worst, with 1. Of course the problem with this metric is that it’s heavily skewed – bad teams have something of an advantage here due to the 1 All-Star per team requirement. Some pretty bad all-stars have been trotted out there some years.
This data took a lot of massaging so there may be some innaccuraries (I had the Angels in there at one point due to their changing team name), but it’s the best I can do with how little I really wanted to do your homework for you.
Another problem is that it only accounts for quantity, not quality
For example, 2 of the 4 all-stars Mets’ farm system has produced are David Wright and Jose Reyes, who are much better players than anyone produced by the Cubs’ system over the last 20 years.
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 15, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions




















