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Didn't We See This Game Yesterday? No! Cubs Win 2-1

One could have been forgiven for thinking we were in "Groundhog Day" this afternoon at Wrigley Field, with the Cubs leading 2-0 going into the ninth inning and Carlos Marmol coming into the game -- this time, to a loud chorus of boos.

The Cubs beat the Marlins 2-1, so the complaint department is closed. Mostly.

Marmol was shaky again today, though he threw a few more strikes and was able to get the slider over the plate. Mostly. He was very fortunate that Hanley Ramirez decided to make a dumb baserunning play and try to take second base on what was a clean single to center field that sent Omar Infante to third. A strong throw from Marlon Byrd got Ramirez easily and the Marlins got just one run, when Logan Morrison furiously fought Marmol through an 11-pitch at-bat before singling.

That brought Sean Marshall into the game. Truth be told, Marshall should have been brought in to face the lefthanded-hitting Morrison, but Marshall struck out Mike Stanton to end it and win the game for the Cubs.

Star-divide

All of this happened after Ryan Dempster threw eight outstanding innings, giving up just four hits -- and two of the hits happened after two were out in the eighth inning and Mike Quade came out to talk to Dempster and decided to leave him in the game.

This didn't necessarily seem like the right call -- it's not as if Dempster had thrown only 83 or 87 pitches, as he had over his previous two starts. Fortunately, he got Emilio Bonifacio to ground out to end the eighth inning. Great work by Dempster, who lowered his season ERA from 5.01 to 4.68 and now has a 6-3 mark (and the Cubs are 11-3 in his 14 starts) since May 1, with an ERA of 2.95 and WHIP of 1.20 during that time.

The Cubs were pretty much stymied by Ricky Nolasco -- another "didn't we see this yesterday" moment was the two double plays hit into by the Cubs in the first two innings. After getting two runners on base in the fourth, with two out Alfonso Soriano hit a popup that neither Stanton nor Infante could handle. An error was charged to Infante and both runners scored.

Here's where I nitpick, and it's nitpicky because the Cubs won the game. Why was Alfonso Soriano only standing on first base after this play? Complete lack of hustle on his part, and putting himself in scoring position might have led to another run -- hindsight, it didn't, because Darwin Barney struck out. But I'm betting that if Soriano had done that with Jack McKeon as his manager, he'd have been benched right away. Again, there seems to be no accountability for veteran players on this team.

Like I said, it's a nitpick. The Cubs played a pretty solid game today and won, unlike last night, when they played a pretty solid game and lost. The weather was nice and the announced crowd of 38,391 appeared to have about 5,000 no-shows, and again, I failed to locate more than a handful of (about six, total) Marlins fans. Also nice to meet BCB'er Gibbon Jockey today.

There's one more thing you should know, via tweet from Carrie:

#Cubs Q says he'll use Marshall, Wood as closer and give Marmol chance to work on his mechanics for a couple days. No set timetableless than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

This is the right thing to do. Marmol doesn't look quite right; see if they can figure out what's wrong and then get him back in there. Starting pitching's been good since the break, and Carlos Zambrano returns tomorrow. A corresponding roster move, to activate Z, has not yet been announced -- I'd have to assume it'll be bye-bye to Ramon Ortiz.

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Hmmm....

Any chance Marmol goes on the DL?

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by eswan9 on Jul 15, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it is just a matter of time...

… before we find out that Marmol is somehow broken. Shoulder, elbow, something.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Jul 15, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

It would seem that way, possibly.

Or it could just be mechanics. Maybe Larry Rothschild could have helped him. Oh, well.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe his issues are located between his ears...

That’s the lump three feet above his a**.

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by Zeke on Jul 15, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny that all he throws is sliders now

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by BigJohnAZ on Jul 15, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say that the main pen options are Marshall and Russell

Mixing in Carpenter, with Shark being the middle guy, Wood has been fits and starts, and Grabow needs to hit the waiver wire,

by ClarkFan on Jul 15, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grabow

Do you mean John “We concede the game” Grabow?

by Xaqdaddy on Jul 16, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

It’s John “$4.8 million” Grabow to you.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Jul 16, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't listen to yesterdays

but did todays… Thank God the Marlins are also a bad team. Without their TOOTBLAN & error it’s a different game

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 15, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Sometimes, better to be lucky than good.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I feel that way about missing yesterdays as we rarely miss Thursday night games and catching todays LOL

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 15, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Complaint department is closed?

We scored our only runs thanks to an error and erased numerous scoring opportunities with GIDP in the first few innings.

This team is just really bad. Good on Dempster and Garza and Marshall for the last few days, but this offense is pretty abysmal

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Jul 15, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

that and I turned on the Florida announcers during 5th and 6th

the Cubs have 10 more errors than any other National league team

by Madison Cub Fan on Jul 15, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only 10?

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by Zeke on Jul 15, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

only 5 according to espn.com

in front of them is texas, which i didnt expect

Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land

by jesus christos on Jul 15, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

… like I said, since they got excellent starting pitching, I don’t have too many complaints. I mentioned the two GIDP’s. I’ll save the complaints for tomorrow.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was nice to see Demp have a good game.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Jul 15, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

OK...I gotta ask...Why did the Cubs sign Dave Bush? For the stretch run?

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by Easy Ed on Jul 15, 2011 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah...didn't notice the fanshot...my bad

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by Easy Ed on Jul 15, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good grief

Why would you do this?!?!? What good is this going to do, take away AAA starts from somebody who might have potential to help the Cubs some day?

In my lifetime please!

by Kennabelle on Jul 15, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

the AAA rotations sucks

Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land

by jesus christos on Jul 15, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see Jay Jackson, Nick Struck and even McNutt before Bush.

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by Unique on Jul 15, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nick Struck is intriguing.

He’s not quite 22 and has been promoted two levels this year. He gives up a fair number of hits, but appears to have reduced his walk levels.

I’d definitely like to see him in spring training next year.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 16, 2011 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

so that Quade can call him..

“Bushy”

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by Unclemike on Jul 15, 2011 5:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

TWHS

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by Unique on Jul 15, 2011 5:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Soriano

has always been lazy and has never really hustled. Whether it’s on the base paths or in the field. I thought the same thing when I saw him on first base after that play.

by jsartoris on Jul 15, 2011 5:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I am so sick of Soriano

dogging it in LF and on the bases. I don’t know how he was prior to the Cubs but I guess that’s what happens when you sign him to a contract like that. All that for about 2 weeks’ worth of offense per season. Hendry rolled the dice and lost.

I know that he was one of the reasons that the Cubs made the playoffs in 07 and 08 but with his diminishing skills and injuries, it wasn’t worth it. He’s another guy that’s a no-show once he gets to the playoffs.

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by BigJohnAZ on Jul 15, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey boss, can we have BLou back?

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jul 15, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He quit.

After the sixth ban, he said he wasn’t coming back. And hasn’t.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jul 15, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a shame

I miss his unbridled negativity. Really spiced up the joint.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Jul 15, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could have taken it if not for the personal attacks.

Which he couldn’t stop himself from doing.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

^ THIS ^

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

So being overly enthusiastic and nice gets you yelled at on here? Really?

Do you prefer…..

This team Sucks
The owner is weak
The manager is overmatched
The GM should go
The Cubs hire cronies
Soriano is Lazy
ARam is Lazy
We have aminor league coaching staff
The organization is terrible top to bottom
There is no accountability on this team
We would have lost today if the Marlins didnt drop a fly ball when Soriano popped it up and didnt run and Byrd made a great throw.
The manager and GM will probably be back next year…

The last one is an open question….The others are all true and I think Al agrees with them. But many on here can’t handle this information.
So I thought i would be more like them and see the Cubs through their eyes….
But thats not good either I guess…..

I do know that If I or many others on here acted like Clutch last night, we would be gone.

by TJ11 on Jul 15, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

95% of us know all that about this team, TJ...

seriously…we really do.

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by Easy Ed on Jul 15, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

TJ, the problem is...

… you’ve been Johnny One-Note for a long time. Just drop the act and join the conversation. Others here do. You can do it, I know you can. Just give it a shot.

And you’re wrong about “being gone”. He went off, yes, and in an unacceptable way. It’s a first offense. I have asked him to apologize here. We’ll see what happens.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 16, 2011 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

TJ, I sort of think you egged him on with your foolish posts, he had enough of it.

I like you TJ, (also tired of your sarcastic posts)….but Clutch16 had one bad night and in my humble opinion should not justify a ban. Unfortunately, for this site, he probably will choose to not come back, and while I hope that doesn’t happen, I don’t blame him. I have noticed a lot of pretty neutral and friendly posters seem to have gone astray over the last months, and while I know the tone of BCB has to do with the crappy season, these missing posters were some of the ones who lightened up the place in our gloomiest moments. Just a suggestion, but please stop mentioning what happened last night….you are no innocent.

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by cooliogirl47 on Jul 16, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably the same way

But it’s a lot more tolerable or less noticable when your a perennial 30/30 guy. Different story when your a 20/5 guy making 18 mil a year.

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by DTJchris on Jul 15, 2011 6:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Quade didn't leave Marm out there....

What gives? Must’ve been his body double….

If Marmol goes to the DL…..it wouldn’t be a better time to try out Carpenter for the closer role.

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by Unclemike on Jul 15, 2011 5:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Carpenter definitely has "future closer" written all over him.

Wouldn’t mind that.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Break him in at set-up

If that works, he can move to closing, but start him in the lower stress role first.

by ClarkFan on Jul 15, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perfect time to give it a try.

The Cubs are certainly in “nothing to lose” territory.

Still, they need to get Marmol well, whether that is mechanics, mental or physical health. If Carpenter works out and looks good, then you could deal Marmol.

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by fsuapollo on Jul 15, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does it drive anybody else crazy

…when the Cubs score their only runs of the game because of the other teams mistakes? I know a run is a run, but being “given” runs is not how I prefer to score runs.

In my lifetime please!

by Kennabelle on Jul 15, 2011 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

You

Obviously don’t have the necessary killer instinct to compete in the big leagues.

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 15, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does killer instinct have to do with anything?

All I’m saying is that I would want to EARN my runs, and it annoys me when they don’t earn them.

In my lifetime please!

by Kennabelle on Jul 15, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this point,

I’d gladly take any runs the Cubs can score, even if they don’t really deserve them.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree -- I'll take them

I just prefer earned runs. I guess I’m alone on thinking that way…

In my lifetime please!

by Kennabelle on Jul 15, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that.

Just … a run is a run is a run, regardless of how it’s scored and whether it’s earned or not.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

This is just my opinion, but…baseball is pretty unique in that the best teams are .600, the worst teams are .400, and you would not do well to dismiss luck or whatever the hell works. I think that this is part of the reason that superstition is so much more part of baseball than other sports. JMHO. Seriously, forget style points. I guarantee that the 2011 Giants did.

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by vonde6 on Jul 15, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to have Nolasco back.

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by Unique on Jul 15, 2011 5:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

What a great game today!!!!!

Cubs played good solid baseball!

Soriano with a clutch hustling single that confused the fielders
Great work by the pen
And as always excellent managing!!!

Ryan Dempster was awesome!

Amazing day!

by TJ11 on Jul 15, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

.....

……. yeah.

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by Unique on Jul 15, 2011 6:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lmao!! this

by bleedinblue76 on Jul 16, 2011 9:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Never said it did.

Wins, however, are nice.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well this threads not over yet but no

doubt tmrrw.

Might as well call post-game threads the “what did Quade ruin today?” threads.

by SenorGato on Jul 15, 2011 7:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Page up.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 15, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoilman homered in the eighth (I think)

in an extra inning game. I’m not sure it has landed yet.

I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.

by timh815 on Jul 15, 2011 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

CUBS WIN

I was pleasantly surprised when I received my post game text…btw if anyone wants to quickly check the score of the game its easy – text Cubs (or the nickname of any team) to 44636 – free texts (provided you have unlimited text plan) – just an fyi in case anyone cares, but it is a winning game thread so there will be 150 comments tops

by hansman1982 on Jul 15, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Winning game threads are amazing

ly quiet

"Wait, are you saying I'm a sunshine-pumping, koolaid-drinking, Soriano-loving, rainbow-rising, unicorn-riding, double-clutching, Sweet Lou-backing, Hendry-supporting, hey hey whaddya saying, Cubs are going all the waying, glass is overflowing, Rothschild is all-knowing, Cubs fan? - ballhawk

by vonde6 on Jul 15, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't they, though?

It is Friday night, after all.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 15, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's just that when you can't even get 3 wins in a row by ASB, the wins here and there, lose the

excitement/meaning/hope for anything good to come out of this team. For me at least, the intensity of a “win-high” just isn’t there anymore.

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by cooliogirl47 on Jul 15, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, I hate to be the one to "defend" Soriano

But I don’t think his lack of hustle is because he’s lazy. I really think he’s saving his legs as much as possible by minimizing their use when he can. He’s not going to voluntarily ask to be removed from the lineup, Quade has do his job and start resting Soriano more and more.

by Danwood on Jul 15, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

He can't run out 500 at-bats a season spread over 6 months?

Of which about 100 are strikeouts, others are pop ups with less than 2 out and a man at first, etc?

You don’t have to sprint to get to second, just run fast enough so you’ve rounded first in case the ball drops – then you should have the momentum and time to get to 2nd before the ball is recovered.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Jul 15, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, he in a bad situation

He has a choice: run hard on a routine fly ball in the outfield or save it and run hard on a gapper that will be at least a double. His legs are only good for one. What is the choice?

I do not personally have arthritis or any sort of joint injuries/diseases, but I know plenty of people who do and simple, every day tasks are difficult for them, things that seem trivial to you and me.

by Danwood on Jul 16, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

YMMV, fair enough..

But you’re making it sound like Soriano uses a handicap spot when he drives to the game.

He’s getting $17 million a year, he ought to at the least play like a professional. I don’t think running fairly hard 3 or 4 times a game is beyond his physical ability at this stage.

by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Jul 16, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really do believe that...

Alfonso Soriano’s knees will keep him from fulfilling his contract. What appears to be loafing to us, is probably about all he has. It’s sad. You’d think that there would be some way for the Cubs to force him to see some sort of knee/hip/leg specialist that could tell them “he’s through”. I know…U.N.I.O.N.

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by Easy Ed on Jul 15, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one could make him see a doctor

But if the team had genuine health concerns, they could DL him.

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by BeerCub on Jul 16, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

At this point...

a beautiful day at the yard and a victory is sweet.

I don’t care that the cubs picked up their runs on a hubby-wife, they did and Q didn’t ride Marmol into another loss.

I might disagree slightly with one notion in that hanley ramirez’s TOOTBLAN may not have meant anything as had he stopped at first, the ensuing base hit was pretty sharp and more than likely he would have been held at 3rd. Still, in that situation it’s first and 3rd with one out but I still think Marshall gets the call at that point and closes it out.

No matter, it’s all hypothetical. I’ll take the sunshine when it happens to break and will refrain from shaking my fists at the clouds.

Win this series tomorrow.

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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 16, 2011 12:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm really happy Marmol didn't blow the lead

Not for the Cubs sake but for you guys who were at the game and stayed on all afternoon watching and chatting. It’s just would have been the ultimate turnoff in my opinion for 2 days in a row.

by ak123 on Jul 16, 2011 12:33 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't get why we can't make Marshall the Closer

He strikes out a decent amount of batters and he actually knows how to find the strike the zone.

Just because he doesn’t fit the standard hard throwing closer doesn’t mean anything.

I’d be fine if Marmol could dominate like last year but he is way more hittable now and still walks a ton of guys.

Also I know Carpenter has 100 mph fastball but I really don’t like the idea of another wild throwing closer.

by Mitchener on Jul 16, 2011 2:23 AM CDT reply actions  

no not Marshall....

He’s never been a full time closer….nor does he have the goods to be one…

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by Unclemike on Jul 16, 2011 7:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, I think he does.

But this is likely only a temporary move.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 16, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who else does?

Marmol is broken (mechanics or injury), Carpenter is so new the plastic wrapping is still on him, and Wood is a shadow of himself. Who’s left? Russell? Grabow?

by ClarkFan on Jul 16, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does Marmol go to the DL since he won't be pitching for a while?

Who would take his place?

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by ronsanto10 on Jul 16, 2011 5:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounded like it will only be a few days, not 15, so I wouldn't think so.

Sounded to me like it would be in the area of 5 days.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 16, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Cubs won, so I'll just ignore the bad bits and be happy

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 16, 2011 6:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Marmol was...

nowhere to be found after the final out. I know he’s upset about being taken out (btw, did they show Pena sprinting to the mound to talk to him before Quade got there?) but have some class and congratulate your team on the win.

I sense problems on the horizon between marmol and Quade

by kanderber on Jul 16, 2011 7:27 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

does

quade deserve credit for taking marmol out of the closer role or is it another nail in his coffin? pinella would never have done that.these players have huge egos and this will not play well with marmol.and in the good news dept sandberg has said he would be willing to come back to chicago if the job ever opens up.glad to see there is no bitterness on his part.maybe some day.

by NOMAR on Jul 16, 2011 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Ego <<<<< performance

If you want to be the closer, you have to get outs. If Marmol doesn’t like it, he needs to throw strikes – if he can.

by ClarkFan on Jul 16, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

and

does anyone else miss larry rothschild????

by NOMAR on Jul 16, 2011 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I think before this year is

over we may all miss Larry . Marmol has been like a pot waiting to boil over . They really have to figure out his problems .

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