Cubs Minor League Wrap: July 18
My daughter turned three and a half today.
Congratulations to Robinson Chirinos, who made his major league debut tonight for the Rays. Hit a double too for his first major league hit.
Also, congratulations to Fernando Perez, who signed with the New York Mets and was assigned to their Triple-A team in Buffalo. I told you he wouldn't be unemployed for long.
Wayne Gretzky was in Spokane tonight watching the Hawks play the Indians. Don't know if that means anything, but it is interesting.
Jim Hendry and Tom Ricketts were in Des Moines.
Iowa Cubs
The Iowa Cubs were silenced by the Nashville Sounds, 5-3 in ten innings.
Starter Alberto Cabrera gave up two solo home runs tonight, but those were the only runs he allowed. Cabrera pitched six innings and surrendered five hits. He walked two and struck out six.
Chris Carpenter blew the save and took the loss in the tenth. He pitched two innings and allowed two runs, as well as allowing a runner inherited from John Gaub to score. One of the two runs of his own was unearned, however. Carpenter did not allow a hit, but he walked two and had two wild pitches. He struck out one.
Catcher Welington Castillo hit a two-run home run in the seventh inning. It was his twelfth home run this year for Iowa. Castillo was 1 for 4 with a walk.
Right fielder Tyler Colvin was 2 for 5 with a triple. He scored once and had one RBI. Third baseman Ryan Flaherty went 2 for 4 with a double.
Second baseman DJ LeMahieu was 2 for 5. First baseman Scott Moore was 2 for 3 with two walks.
Tennessee Smokies
The Tennessee Smokies split a double-header with the Mississippi Braves, winning the completion of yesterday's game 2-1 in ten innings and dropping the second game 4-1.
In the first game, Trey McNutt started yesterday and pitched the first two innings before the rains came. McNutt allowed one hit but no runs. He struck out two and walked two.
Rafael Dolis earned the win with two shutout innings of relief. Dolis walked one and struck out three.
Marcus Hatley pitched a perfect bottom of the tenth for his first save for the Smokies and eighth overall. He did not have a strikeout.
Ty Wright was 4 for 5 with a double. Steve Clevenger was 2 for 3 with two walks. He scored both runs, including the go-ahead run in the tenth on a Luis Flores pinch-hit single.
In the second game, Austin Bibens-Dirkx made his first start for the Smokies this year and got the loss. He allowed four runs over four innings, but only one of the four runs was earned, all of which scored in the second inning. Bibens-Dirkx walked one and struck out two.
Right fielder Nelson Perez went 2 for 3 with a double and an RBI.
Daytona Cubs
The Daytona Cubs were made to walk the plank by the Bradenton Marauders, 10-5.
Jeffry Antigua pitched the first five innings and the first two batters of the sixth. He allowed three runs on four hits, including two solo home runs. Antigua walked two and struck out three.
Kyle Smit relieved Antigua in the sixth and got knocked around hard. Smit gave up five runs on four hits and was only able to retire two batters as part of a seven run sixth inning for Bradenton. Smit walked three and only struck out one as he got the loss in his first game after being demoted from Tennessee.
The D-Cubs had two solo home runs of their own tonight. First baseman Justin Bour hit his 19th blast in the second inning. Bour was 2 for 4. Right fielder Michael Burgess hit his 12th in the fourth inning and was 1 for 4 on the night.
DH Greg Rohan had a great first day in the Florida State League. He was a perfect 4 for 4. He doubled, scored once and batted one in.
Left fielder Evan Crawford celebrated being named the FSL Player of the Week by going 2 for 5 with a double. He also had one RBI and scored once.
Center fielder Matt Szczur was 2 for 5 with a stolen base.
Peoria Chiefs
The Chiefs lost to the Fort Wayne Tin Caps, 5-3 in ten innings.
Matt Loosen returned from a short promotion to Tennessee and went back to dominating the Midwest League. Tonight he pitched five shutout innings to start the game, allowing but four hits, all singles. He did not walk anyone and he struck out seven.
Frank Del Valle relieved Loosen and got the loss. He pitched 4.1 innings and allowed five runs on seven hits, including a home run in the tenth inning. One of the five runs was unearned. Del Valle walked two and struck out three.
DH Richard Jones was 3 for 5 with a double and two RBI. Shortstop Arismendy Alcantara went 2 for 5 and scored one run.
Third baseman Dustin Geiger was 1 for 4 with a double in his Peoria debut.
Boise Hawks
The Hawks gave up five runs in the bottom of the ninth to lose to the Spokane Indians, 8-7.
Starter Ben Wells lasted five innings and allowed two runs on five hits. He walked one and struck out three.
Colin RIchardson and Bryce Shafer combined to give up the five runs in the ninth. Shafer got the loss after allowing two runs on two hits, a walk and a hit batter. He struck out one, which was the only out he recorded.
Catcher Rafael Lopez was 2 for 4 with a walk and an RBI.
Second baseman Zeke DeVoss was 0 for 1 with two walks, two hit by pitches and five stolen bases. That's one off the NWL record set in 1980. It's a Boise Hawks record though. He scored four times.
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Colin Richardson
Josh, what’s the story on this guy? I know he’s a HS arm we took last year, appears to have pretty nasty stuff, but wild. You think the Cubs are going to try him as a starter or..?
All I know
is that he throws low 90s (or at least he did out of HS) with a curve, changeup and a cutter he’s been working on. Wildness isn’t really a problem as far as I can tell—he only walked 11 batters in HS and only 2 in 20 innings in rookie ball last year. He’s been a little wild this year, but tiny sample size. (ten innings) I think development of pitches other than his fastball is going to be his challenge.
by Josh Timmers on Jul 19, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
DeVoss
Even if the power isn’t there (which I am not so sure it is or it isn’t). Too many great baserunners/speed guys tend to rely too much on infield hits and slapping it around rather than having great patience. Early but I know he has had solid patience in the past and would be great to see going forward even without developing much power.
by Steves Stoners on Jul 19, 2011 12:16 AM CDT reply actions
DeVoss is an on base MACHINE
He reached base all 5 ABs, and takes his walks and seems to get hit quite often. Not to even mention the stealing bases at will. Szczur another multi hit game and stolen base. Love it. Colvin, LeMahieu, Castillo, and Flaherty with good games for Iowa. Geiger and Easterling with solid games. Wells with a nice start. Anyone know what he was throwing tonight? Golden still struggling, not really worried though, and Chen a good game.
Low 90's on Wells
The Boise announcer seem a bit mystified that people would Tweet for Velo numbers. He’ll hafta get used to it.
Isn’t Gretzky in L.A. these days? I hope we don’t overslot his kid too much. He probably should go to school to develop. He’d get stuck in Zona for a couple years, at least.
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Sounds good
on the Wells part. The Gretzky signing kinda seems like something Ricketts would do. Take him early and have a sort of deal with him. Sure hope it doesn’t cost us someone important.
Wells is a GB machine
I’d like to see the K rate bump up, but I will just hope that it happens as we matures and develops.
Happy birthday to your kid.
Mcnutt and the short starts…at least this one was due to rain.
DeVoss is becoming one of my favorite players in the system. I think a player like him is a good type to have in the system. Hopefully he works out.
Ben Wells continues to be interesting once in a while.
Burgess with the HR.
Solid lines from the main guys at AAA except Jackson, who is unlisted. I always forget Colvin when I list people that might show up in the late second half.
by SenorGato on Jul 19, 2011 12:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
McNutt's last start was short due to rain as well.
And Ben Wells has always been interesting..not just once in awhile.
DeVoss
I love hitters that make pitchers work.
He has the Ron Hunt thing going on as well, no?
Sounds like Cabezas was left behind for the trip to Vancouver because, as a defector, he could have been deported. No political commentary, I’m just sayin’.
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Mike Safford explained it as such.
He catches crap here. He’s not that bad. Baliva and Gillespie spoil us.
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Are you secretly Mike Safford?
He really isn’t that good. I will admit that I was unfair in comparing him to Baliva. Safford isn’t complete trash, but I find it difficult to listen to a complete game that he is calling. I only got about 3 innings in last night. The night before, he went ON and ON about the freaking Women’s World Cup. In case he didn’t notice, this is America. We don’t like soccer here, especially the Women’s version.
Baliva can be tough when the
SP gives up eight runs, and the offense musters only three hits. Most announcers are tough to listen to when their team is getting singed.
The exception, Hawk Harrelson.
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MIke is OK
He fills the airwaves much differently than Baliva color-wise, Baliva gives more review of past game results, but I only focus on the play-by-play. Yesterday in Peoria there was a play at the plate after an errant pickoff, runner was safe, no description of the throw, no details. Turned out the throw was hosed, on time, catcher yielded the plate after I called a buddy who was there.
DeVoss speed can be exciting, but it is ONE game, and a couple HBP relate to the pitcher moreso than the hitter, and does anyone know the pitch sequences on the 2 walks? Does he crowd the plate?
First one,
four pitch. Not sure how ‘off-the-plate’ they were, but patient guys draw walks more than guess-hackers.
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I only listened to his last walk
but he was down 1-2 and worked a walk out of it. Kid seemingly has a very good eye. He was took 11 HBP this year in college and he was plunked at least once in his short stint in Mesa. I think he might be one of those kids that has the “talent” to get hit quite often.
Jackson was 0-4 with a BB and 2Ks...
you can assume that if Josh doesn’t include the stats of our top prospect in the summary, said prospect had a quiet game.
Great games indeed for Flaherty, Colvin, DeVoss and more.
Jackson, Flaherty, Colvin
i believe we’ll be seeing all 3 within a few weeks time. and all 3 have a good shot at being opening day starters next season.
They're very likely to be up soon - I don't know about all three having a good shot at starting...
I’d expect all three (plus LeMahieu) to be up in September at the latest.
As for next year, I’d expect Jackson to get a shot at starting in CF. Colvin is a bit dicier given his MLB struggles this year. Flaherty’s starting situation depends entirely on whether or not we retain Ramirez on a smaller deal for the next year or two.
Hopefully not.
I still don’t see Colvin as a regular outfielder. He has learned nothing in the minors. 4 walks and 46 strikeouts. That is horrible.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
i don't think there is a chance in hell Rammy takes a cheaper deal.
his agent doesn’t want the option to kick in, because he wants to get him one more big deal according to levine. doesnt sound to me like he’s going to take a discount.
I think they would need a RH OF as well.
then again, if rammydoesnt come back, you go with Flaherty at 3B, that leaves a lot of $ for a 1B, SP, and maybe a corner OF. we’ll see.
A RH platoon would help but
I’m not even convinced that Colvin can make it as platoon right now. He needs to rework his plate approach.
He doesn’t make enough contact to swing at all the pitches he does. His contact skills are not like a Vlad Guerrero or even to a lesser extent like Starlin Castro.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
Colvin has never seemed like a platoon guy...
he has been roughly the same vs LHP and RHP. When he was hitting last year, he was solid against both RHP and LHP. This year, he’s been terrible against both (though really terrible against LHP in limited opportunity this year).
If he can figure out how to adjust and hit like he did last year, he won’t need a platoon partner. If he can’t adjust, he won’t be suitable even as a platoon player.
by SouthernCub on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
No disagreement and
the adjustment has to be to improve the BB/K ratio. That is why his AAA numbers are so disappointing. Rather than go down to AAA to work on his weakness, it appears he went down there and is swinging at everything.
The major league pitchers adjusted to him mid-season last year and he has yet to adjust in response.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
Glad
I’m happy to see that F Perez found another gig. I’m even happier to see its not with our organization.
Great speed, still working on other facets of the game… not what we need. Why bother? Reminds me of Willie Gault (85 Bears), but that scenario is very different obviously.
I was also pleasantly surprised to see both Fuld and Chirinos in the big market game tonight. Makes me wonder what if. They’re not awesome, but what if we went “young” earlier?
I like both Castillo and Clevenger
more than Chirinos. And Sam Fuld while a great guy, and fun to watch…isn’t a starting caliber OF.
Chirinos is already 27 and Fuld will be 30 in November
I guess they would be “younger” than the guys they would have replaced in Koyie Hill and Reed Johnson, but these two are hardly young.
That's not youth?
They could join the Bryan LaHair’s if we got lucky.
So it's 4:30 AM and I just fuond out the Cubs beat Halladay;;;
1 – That means tmrrws game recap will have fewer comments than if they lost.
2 – Most of those comments will be complaints anyway.
These are my two predictions.
Anyone know who the youngest pitchers in the organization are? I know there’s a couple of 17 years old but I don’t know names or anything.
He throws too many strikes
We swing at anything, might as well pitch out of the strike zone. I’d be really surprised if we score more than 1 or 2 against Lee
by Mulhollandmania on Jul 19, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Youngest would be the guys down in the DSL
Gilberto Abreu, Alexander Santana and Angel Mejias received decent sized bonuses last year and are all 17, I believe.
Just for fun..My current top 10
Vastly different than it will be after signings, hopefully. I Baez would be 3rd, Vogelbach 7th, and Maples 11th, but it’ll probably change before then.
1. Brett Jackson OF AA/AAA
Love the intangibles he bring besides just playing baseball. He’s a winner and hustles every play. Not as good in center as some may think, but he should be fine until Szczur arrives. Everyone already knows about him, no need to rehash.
2. Matt Szczur OF A/A+
My love for him is well announced here and I think he’s Trout Jr. Especially if he continues learning to hit for power.
3. DJ LeMahieu 2B AA/AAA
Despite SG going on and on about him, I still like the kid. All he does is hit, and you can’t discredit that even if they are majority singles and doesn’t get on base any other way. If he improves the power, he could be very above average at second.
4. Trey McNutt RHP AA
Still gotta love the upside even if most have begun to discredit him as just having a good year last year. Everyone knows the injuries, so forth. Strong finish and he’ll probably pass LeMahieu in my rankings, but below Baez, which would be the 4 spot—still.
5. Josh Vitters 3B AA
A little aggressive here, but no other guys I’m in love with to go here, and once Baez signs, 6 is a very reasonable slot for Vitters. I still believe, but I’d like to see more power. I wasn’t really impressed with his build when I saw him live though. Needs to pack on muscle bad. Camp Colvin anyone?
6. Jae Hoon Ha OF A+/AA
Moves up 2 spots here due to Baez and Vogelbach not being signed yet. I’m not as big on him as some around here, but there’s no denying the potential. He’s only 20 already in AA and the power is coming around along with great defense.
7. Ryan Flaherty U AA/AAA
Potential to be Lefty Mark DeRosa, yada yada. I like him. Hope he can live up to it and be a solid piece for the Cubs in the future. Will be up in September if not before and could be starting on opening day 2012 depending on what the Cubs do.
8. Reggie Golden OF A-
Love the potential. Not showing the power early, but showing an excellent eye. Not worried about him this year, just stay healthy and keep taking the walks. Keep the average over .260. Next year will be a telling year, and I think it’ll be a big year.
9. Ben Wells RHP A-
Wells jumps up 3 spots here, but it’s not as if he’s not worthy of a top 10 spot. He’s talented and got stuff to jump up the rankings. Hopefully he keeps pitching well, but he’s learning a new pitch this year, so it’s not really about the stats.
10. Willengton Cruz LHP A-
One of my favorite arms right now, supposedly with nasty stuff and it’s definitely showed in his stats so far with Boise. Probably one of the biggest risers for me over the last month. McNutt/Maples/Wells/Cruz/Simpson are a nice upside top 5 pitching prospects and hopefully they turn out.
Baez/Vogelbach/Maples/Dunston are actually the only unsigned guys in my top 30 right now, they’re actually top 20. Jacquez, Scott, and Urban were borderline for me, but I couldn’t put them in yet.
If DeVoss keeps doing what he's doing..
It’s gonna be hard not to put him near the top ten.
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by Unique on Jul 19, 2011 7:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a little early to say that...
I still have to find a spot for him in my top 30…I haven’t decided who to knock out yet..probably Jay Jackson, but still have to finalize all the signings first. DeVoss will probably end up in Peoria before too long.
Wow, Jay Jackson with a long fall.
I think he’ll still be in mine in the mid 20s, but yikes, what a rough year. If DeVoss tears it up for the second half, he may be around 20-25 for me on my list.
Jackson has pitched better lately..
But yeah, rough year for him overall, following a pretty mediocre year last year.
Jackson has fallen hard but...
no way he’s not in the top 30 prospects.
hanging a Trout Jr.
comp on Szczur seems ridiculous
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 19, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...
Szczur is a very nice prospect. But the Trout comparisons seem a bit much.
They do get compared a lot
but only because they grew up about an hour from each other in South Jersey. Szczur is three years older than Trout, so they didn’t play against each other much. From what I understand they played against each other once.
But I don’t think Szczur will be anywhere near as good as Trout. Szczur could be a solid regular. Trout could be a HOFer.
by Josh Timmers on Jul 19, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Trout is two years younger and has put up MUCH better numbers...
Trout has been consistently better (or MUCH better) at every level above rookie ball (where Szczur played only one game) despite being 2-3 years younger at each level. Szczur appears to be a good prospect, but a very poor man’s Trout.
Szczur's skills
always seemed like poor man’s Craig Biggio to me.
by Shakedown Street on Jul 19, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Quicker than Biggio, though
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Really?
Biggio was pretty quick. He stole 38+ bases four different times (leading the league once) during an era when people didn’t steal bases (better to wait for the long ball). At 32, Biggio stole 50 bases. I’m not sure that I’m on board with the argument that Szczur is quicker than Biggio was. If he is, that’s great.
Did Biggio have a .791 OPS as a 22 year old in Low A ball?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
He did say "poor man's"
which implies “similar type of skills, but not as good.”
For reference, at 22 Biggio had an OPS of .863 in AAA.
Kinda my point
As much as we like to hype some of these kids. There really ISN’T a top end prospect anywhere in this system.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Biggio
also had 3,000 hits and is future HOFer, obviously I am not predicting that for Szczur. Just seems like the skill-set: right handed, lead-off hitter with good speed and some decent power matches well.
by Shakedown Street on Jul 19, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Saying that Szczur isn't as good as Biggio doesn't mean there isn't top-end talent...
Biggio was a HoF player. You can fall well short of that and still be a top end prospect.
In full disclosure, I make no claims that Szczur is a top-end prospect. It’s too early to tell with him. But he does have intriguing skills and could very well become a major leaguer. There are some farm system experts who do see him very positively.
I can agree with that
I like Szczur as a player. He seems like a wonderful person to go along with that.
It just seems like some people, on some blogs have really heaped on the hype on this kid. I’d like him a little more if he
1. drew a few more walks
2. Hit for a touch more power
3. Didn’t seem to always have a nagging injury
22 is still pretty young. All accounts are that the kid has a really solid work ethic. Who knows how far he can develop at this point?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
The other plus is this is the first year he's focused only on baseball, which is why a lot of people are buying into him.
He’s crazy athletic and has been this good while devoting himself to two sports. I think he’ll learn the game very well and one thing is for certain, as you said, he’s willing to work hard for it.
What dude?
He hasn’t been injured all year. He brought an injury from football with him early in the year, but that was it. He’s also not 22 yet. It’s his first year focusing soley on baseball. He’s actually hit for more power than people thought and it could keep coming. He doesn’t walk but he doesn’t K either. That was your only actual valid point, but it wasn’t a big one.
He's missed time twice this year
Played 72 out of 94 possible games. Also had some lingering injury problems while playing at Villanova.
Nothing overly serious. Ankle injury was the most serious of all. Mainly just something to watch. Especially from a kid who’s one plus tool is speed.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
He missed for his graduation and the Futures game.
I’m not worried about his injuries back then seeing as they were caused by FOOTBALL…usually a pretty brutal sport. And I’m well aware of when his birthday is. Just saying he hasn’t been playing all these low levels as a 22 year old.
He turns 22 tomorrow
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I don't mean he is going to become the number 1 prospect in baseball
Or that he will be as good. Same skillsets, just not as plus.
You might want to be a little more careful in how you say it then...
because I think everyone read it as though you were saying he’s the next Mike Trout.
Poor man’s Mike Trout maybe?
by SouthernCub on Jul 19, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Josh and some others knew what I meant
I’ve went on a tangent or two about it before. Some others probably took it that way, however.
Just saying that that's the way it reads...
If you don’t really think Szczur will be as good as Trout, then we don’t have any disagreements. They have similar types of skills (Trout just appears to have more of them).
by SouthernCub on Jul 19, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the inclusion of Ben Wells.
He would have made my list if I was more careful. Guy has alot of potential, and at this point he’s passed Austin Reed as my favorite sub-20 year old arm.
Thanks for not underrating Vitters like I did.
by SenorGato on Jul 19, 2011 3:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I still like Reed
but at this point he’s dropped a ton. I also liked him more than Wells last season. Kid has struggled so far though. He’s had stretchs of dominance though (3 or so innings) then falls apart. We’ll see what he does next season with a full offseason of work.
DeVoss Pt II
I was listening to the first two innings. His first two times up were against different pitchers. On SB 1, he stole second, and it wasn’t close. SB 2 was of third a couple pitches later. There was no need for a throw. SB 3 drew an air-mail throw into CF.
I don’t expect this very often, but basestealing should be a case of ‘going when you’ll make it’ mostly. The threat of a runner on first should increase fastballs to the hitter. If DeVoss can get a jump on a catcher he can outrun, that’s when you go. If the pitcher is denying you a lead, and cutting his velo with a slidestep, let Castro rip fastballs all day long.
I remember when the Bears traded for Cutler, I had to explain to lifelong Bears fans that a screen pass could be a secondary option. If Favre faded and nothing was going on, Dorsey Levens would wait, then release. Seventeen yards later, Wha’happened?
That is what base stealing should be.
All minor league teams are worth listening to now. Everyone has a few worth following again.
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It's just through 5 games...
but….
Ryan Flaherty has an OPS of .947
Brett Jackson has an OPS of .875
So far in Iowa.
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What's league average OPS in PCL?
It’s gotta be pretty high this year.
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it seems like devoss actually has plate discipline
which is weird for cubs prospects (or players in general)
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Devo ss
Improved his BB/K in college from 2010 to 2011 seasons. His future success is directly tied to OBP, and when he faces better pitchers(control/movement) that pound the zone and pitch to contact, the walks will decrease and it will all come down to hitting…or bunting?

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