Cubs Lose To Phillies And Heat
by Al Yellon on Jul 20, 2011 5:25 PM CDT
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PrintNo, the Cubs didn't lose to the Miami Heat Wednesday afternoon, but the way they're playing, I have no doubt that if LeBron James & Co. had shown up, they'd have defeated the Cubs too.
The Phillies beat the Cubs 9-1 in a game that was essentially over after the first inning -- since the Cubs scored just one run and the Phillies had a 2-0 lead after one -- and fans started heading for home not long after that, on a day when the game time temperature was announced as 97 degrees, and it was probably hotter by the middle innings. The outside temperature gauge in my car said 102 when I got in to drive home.
Here's a fact from today's game that pretty much sums up where the Cubs are going this year:
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Yes, the Cubs are starting to do things that have not been done in decades. (And two errors on the same play, by a player, Pena, whose fielding is one of his strong points.) I'm going to save all the under-.500 stuff for Friday, when the only major league team with a worse record than the Cubs, the Astros, visit Wrigley Field. This team really doesn't do anything well; they can't generate much offense (ninth in the NL); the pitching staff is bad (allowed the most runs in the major leagues, 500, and 46 unearned runs), and they lead the league in errors -- by a lot; the 85 errors is 13 more than the next-worst team, the Astros. Oh, this weekend oughta be a lot of fun, right?
The Cubs offense was largely absent until they scored a consolation run in the seventh inning, and Cubs pitching was pretty bad today. Ryan Dempster labored through three innings, requiring 86 pitches to record nine outs, in the interim giving up four doubles, three singles, three walks and six runs. Ramon Ortiz was only slightly better, and the same for John Grabow; between the two of them they did provide a bit of baseball history.
Jimmy Rollins became the first National Leaguer since 2009 to homer from both sides of the plate, connecting lefthanded off Ortiz and righthanded off Grabow; it's the 254th time it's been done in major league history, making it a feat a bit rarer than a no-hitter (271 times) or a cycle (291 times).
That's about all I've got today, except for the heat; fans started streaming out of the park after the fourth inning and it became a crush to exit after many stuck around to see former Cub (and Phillie) Doug Glanville not do such a great job on the seventh-inning stretch.
Enjoy the off-day. I think we might need it more than the team does.
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starting to think that my annual vacation road trip to not see the cubs was a good idea, and it gets confirmed by the passing day.
Today was my annual game at Wrigley.
Came all the way from NC. What a joke. At least they play in the city of Chicago, so the trip isn’t a complete waste.
by Dcr18 on Jul 20, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What part of NC?
THIS IS THE YEAR!
by CubsPanthersTarHeels on Jul 20, 2011 10:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I know where Boone is. My family has some land and a cabin up there. I live about 1hr45min from there in Lexington.
THIS IS THE YEAR!
by CubsPanthersTarHeels on Jul 21, 2011 3:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I lived in Raleigh for 4 years
And my wife is from Louisburg. We still make it down 3-4 times a year.
I guess this game was just a good game between bad players and good players.
And the Cubs have the bad ones.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Pretty much.
Geez, I guess I could have written a two-sentence recap. Would have saved me some time.
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Really sad what's happened to our Cubs
Not a fun summer!
See the left sidebar
for some Loss Countdowns.
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Al, I'll ask you (b/c I expect little ridicule) :]
But can you tell me why I cannot see this “left sidebar” on either IE or Firefox? (I’ve tried both narrow and wide screens). This also goes for “losses-to-date counter” on same sidebar… baffling…Thanks to any whom respond. JS2
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I'm not sure why you don't see it.
Tell you what, take a screenshot of what you see on BCB — full screen — and send it to me. Maybe I can help.
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I am using Chrome, and I don't see a left sidebar now on this page
…although there is one on the main site.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
There isn't a left sidebar on the interior pages.
Only on the front page. The interior pages have only a right sidebar.
Hope that helps.
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OK, that's what I thought. Thanks.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Ahha! Please define "Mainpage"?
I generally only use “game-thread” and “preview” pages… maybe zeke and I have the same problem? And I do not mean too many pretty women! (Sorry Zeke, there’s Mrs. Zeke to consider). :]
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Oops. "Frontpage".
Who the heck ever uses THAT?! :)
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Well...
… you can go to the front page at any time by clicking the BCB logo in the upper left on ANY page.
Hope that helps.
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Well now...
If Mr. Yellon didn’t just reinvent sliced-white-bread"!. In over 2 years, I’ve never used that (to replace a gamethread, just to play “catch-up”, which I seldom need do). Thank You!
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Just a question, are you looking on the front page? That info is kind of middle of the page.
"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."
and i’m late to the party
"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."
They just showed...
the “highlight” of Glanville’s first “pitch.” He mentioned it in the booth after he sang, but it was far worse than I imagined. Not a banner day for him by any measure.
Same for the team, but I think we’ve all gotten to the point where we expect that at this point.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 20, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions
I saw that.
I think Glanville should stick to writing.
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Well he was throwing to Campana.
Maybe Marshall could have got up and saved the wild pitch if he was catching.
I've never been a big fan of this phrase...
…but I think it’s safe to say the 2011 Chicago Cubs have been, were today and shall continue to be a hot mess.
Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.
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by Chris Dobbertean on Jul 20, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Al, just wondering, do you stay for the bitter end on a day like this (especially with the heat)?
Or do you leave early to avoid the rush?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
Stayed till the end.
Heat doesn’t bother me.
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That's why you're
Our Hero! (NO snark intended). Bless you for your stick-to-it-tiveness!
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Wow.
Thanks.
Only 28 more home games remaining.
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I'll pray for you.
(Currently, you can plan on attending about 9 wins…TJ11 approves of this message!!!) :)
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LOL
Hey, a win like Monday’s = lots of fun.
Games like today’s = not so much.
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I feel the same way
I just try to keep a “real perspective” on our 2011 Cubs. So much has gone wrong (after so much went right just a few short years ago), that it’s sometimes hard to see the light at the end of a 53 yr old tunnel! Gotta run. Hope to talk more later! A day off cannot possibly hurt this team!
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Good luck, Al
We’re all counting on you.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You have my deepest thanks
If you can somehow continue writing about this team.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I will.
There are 63 games left. I know I’ll think of something.
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You could do various countdowns, e.g. 13 more losses and a 90 win season no longer possible.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…
by LT on Jul 20, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
When were the best of times?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
3 years ago
Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land
by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to say,
2008 really does seem like a long, long time ago.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Just goes to show how young you are... ;-)
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Al,I wonder if u were on TV
if u were wearing a white shirt, grey hat and talking next to somebody in the 9th inning.
Nope.
Blue cap, blue shirt and I had a towel under the cap, too.
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Al I believe I saw you out there today.
Wearing the bright blue shirt with the old logo on the front?
you're not human....
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 9:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sure, I am.
Just a human who doesn’t mind hot weather.
I’ll take days like this every single time over that 45-degree drizzly crap we suffered through in April & May.
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I was there.
I stayed until the end. It was pretty horrible. The only highlight was having Tom Ricketts be within 3 rows of me for about 3 innings. At one point he was sitting right in front of me and I really wanted to ask him some not-so-nice questions about the team, but I abstained.
Al SBNation must pay you a lot of money to do this every day
Because this team is so bad that I can’t even read about them every day let alone read about them
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
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Crap I meant write
don’t judge me
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 20, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not judging you.
Hey, there are days this isn’t easy, to watch baseball this bad. But I persevere.
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I guess a life of watching bad baseball is better than many other jobs I can think of
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 20, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, Al has such a bad job,
he gets to see 80+ major league baseball games and write about them. I think that is what most of us would call a dream job.
by jpeters407 on Jul 20, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
An off day is a great day
to make change in team management. any change would be a good start
by wolfcub on Jul 20, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
11 days until the "non-waiver" trade deadline expires...
everyday I log onto the internet, I’m expecting news on so and so getting dealt to where ever, but, I’m always disappointed. Maybe after the Astros win/sweep this weekend series someone will wake up. I know there really isn’t very many on this team that are worth anything to a contender, but, I keep hoping. If I was on this team, I’d be on the phone with my agent telling him to “get me the hell outta Dodge”…NTC or not.
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I agree,
I mean, I hate to see A-Ram or Z go, really, I do. I like them, but if I were a player on this team, I would seriously be asking my agent traded to a team in the playoff hunt.
I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?
^this^
(hard as it might be emotionally…and we’re Cubs Fans…we’re emotional)
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is it wrong when i want
This team to lose 100 games? Another no pressure run to play better baseball will only make Hendry look better…
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 5:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
what pressure could these guys be under at this point?
I mean, aside from:
Just winning a fricking game more than every 3rd day.
having to walk to the plate to swing pitifully
and having to jog the bases if they actually strike the ball with the bat
or catch a ball with that thing on the end of their arm.
I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?
CLAP CLAP CLAP
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 20, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
They have medicine for that
Last December when I was with New Orleans, our fat punk kicker, Garrett Hartley, missed a game-winner and we lost for the second week in a row – that was one of the times you want to grab a guy and tell him to [bug ] off," Fujita said. "But Hartley was young, and I didn’t want to mess him up for good, so I just bit my lip and said, ‘Hey, man, don’t worry about it — it was a team loss,’ which of course was a total lie."
by Fat Punk Kicker on Jul 20, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not on me, dude.
We’ve been broken up for at least 2 months.
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I heard you two were still together.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I've not heard this?
Hello V C F. Sounds like I picked a good game to miss. Gonna be BUSY here next several days…
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What does everyone think about the rumors surrounding Gillick?
Like here.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
It is interesting,
he would be good as an assistant or a consultant of some kind but he does not want a full time job.
They are less interesting than those of SWL and Dan
(just sayin’) :)
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I don't know if I even can get upset when they lose anymore.
Haven’t felt this bad about a Cub team since 2006.
R.I.P. to my grandfather, Andrew Wiley
The reason I am a Cub fan forever
Yeah I might hate this team as much as that one
But for different reasons.
If the cubs lose the first game to the Astros this weekend I’m pulling for a sweep and I’m not ashamed to admit it. Of course a loss on Sunday is guaranteed these days.
by Mapmaker on Jul 20, 2011 6:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Even if the Cubs get swept, they will not fall into last place.
So there’s that.
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after this Astro's series...
we have a nice 10 game road trip – 3 @ Brewers , 3 @ Cards, 4 @ Pittsburgh
I’m predicting we’ll be in last place at the conclusion of it. Not only in our own division…we’ll have the worst record in baseball.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 20, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be.
Cubs could go 3-7 on that trip.
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...in a row?
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Jul 20, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Al:
How many times has a 1st year manager been fired mid-season?
"Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs."
Someone asked this question a while ago.
And I think the answer is — never. There have been some managers fired midseason in their first year with a team, but most of those had managed other teams before (i.e. Preston Gomez with the Cubs in 1980).
If anyone knows, let us know.
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didn't think so.
You think there is any chance of this occurring with the Cubs?
"Ronald Reagan has held the two most demeaning jobs in the country; President of the United States and radio broadcaster for the Chicago Cubs."
Probably not.
I see this season playing out, and then changes being made. A managerial firing now would probably result in Pat Listach being named interim manager, and he would likely not be back next year.
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I was thinking about that last night.
The Cubs really can’t fire Quade until the end of the season, they literally don’t have anyone in the org who can take over as interim mgr.
Every day is a beautiful day for baseball!!
by cowsarecool220 on Jul 21, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Right.
Fire him now and you’ll see two months of Pat Listach. Anyone want that?
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An excellent opportunity to end a debate
The Cubs should fire Quade and just not have a manager the rest of the way, so that once and for all we could determine whether or not managers really make a difference.
Yes. Get Quade the eff out of here, I literally don't care who replaces him, just get him out
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
After the way he trashed Castro and Barney today and absolved the vets of blame for this horrible effort: no more. Inexcusable and unacceptable any longer.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
um YES
can’t be worse
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
20-24 isn't that bad of a record.
I wonder why he was let go.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why,
Everyone knows you Marge smokes Camels.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 20, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
The resemblence
Is striking…
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Caution, we have an Al Davis sighting, probably NSFW
Or anywhere for that matter…
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
Also Cookie Rojas with the Angels in 1988
I’m sure there are others. At the time, it was said that Tony Perez was the fifth fastest firing of a rookie manager.
Thanks for posting this info.
I didn’t have the time to look it up. So, there appear to be at least five who have been fired faster than Quade (since Quade has made it to 99 games).
Still, that’s not many.
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Les Moss is an interesting case
he served as interim manager for the White Sox for 36 games while Al Lopez recovered from an emergency appendectomy.
But, his first real managerial job was with the Detroit Tigers in 1979. He was relieved after only 53 games. His record was 27-26. He actually was not fired for cause or because he was ineffective, but rather because Sparky Anderson had suddenly become available, having been fired unexpectedly by the Reds.
You may recall that Moss later served as pitching coach for the Cubs in 1981.
Are we taking nominations?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 20, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
WINTER IS COMING, MIKE QUADE, WINTER IS COMING
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Hmmm...I doubt the Cubs version of Joffrey
has the stones to go Ned Stark on Quadesie…
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by Gibbon Jockey on Jul 20, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad somebody caught this.
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Backman
Got hired and fired by the dbacks before ever getting to sit in the dugout
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by TheRiot Police on Jul 20, 2011 8:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Boy I am tired of this team
Yes I am sure the line is around the block, but this uninspired team is just tough to watch.\
Give you credit Al to hang in there and watch every game.
If there are not serious changes at the end of this year, boy it will be ugly on this board.
Yes, it will.
Especially if the team loss record is broken.
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Cubs vs. Astros
Cellar, here we come.
RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.
The cub suck at everything
They can’t even be the best at sucking.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 20, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody hear Q's postgame?
Holly kinda ripped into him.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
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hollysie
Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land
by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there a link for this anywhere?
I didn’t get a chance to watch it.
Holly kind of went off
on CTL about Aramis saying he wouldn’t wave his NTC. He and Kaplan think he should be called into Hendry’s office and tell him they would like to trade him and if he still says no tell him that he is not the future of this team and that they will be bringing up some young guys to see how they do and Aramis will be sitting on the bench. We all know that won’t happen.
They were also pissed that Quade called out Castro in his postgame presser but says nothing when the vets lollygag around the bases.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
They were also pissed that Quade called out Castro in his postgame presser but says nothing when the vets lollygag around the bases.
⬆THIS ⬆
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by Al Yellon on Jul 20, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+2
"Stuff like this is why they should shut off the internet."
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+3
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
+4
Every day is a beautiful day for baseball!!
by cowsarecool220 on Jul 21, 2011 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
+5
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
+6
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
+7
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wha? What'd I do?
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Was simply making a progression back to 0
Had nothing to do with your post. I was making pretty designs. FOILED!
That's it for me with Quade
I simply could not believe Quade throwing Castro and Barney under the bus in his post-game interview. Certainly Castro should have caught that pop up. And maybe Barney should have covered for him when it became apparent that Castro had lost the ball in the sun.
But, news flash, the Cubs lost 9-1! It was not a close game. Never was. Check the scorecard, Mike. The Cubs pitchers did not pitch. The hitters did not hit.
Castro and Barney are the only things approaching a bright spot for this awful team.
If you want to mention Castro’s screw up in a LIST of bad plays, fine. But not as the only bad spot in a very bad game.
See ya, Mike.
That is what I also
thought . No need to bring it up in the postgame . Maybe in Q’s office then it’s over with . Both Barney and Castro hustle that is more than alot of the roster does .
I guess...
…he has to take his frustrations out on somebody, and it’s usually the young guys, while you have some vets who were sleep walking for weeks at a time.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I was amazed when I heard it, exactly due the one-sidedness.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
OTOH, maybe he has just given up on the so called vets.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
With game time temperatures in the high 90s (and a heat index of 110), the home team was put in a hole
when their starting pitcher struggled to get outs and as a result was hit hard, allowing the opposition to take a first inning lead.
The start of the Cubs/Phillies game recap today?
Well, yes, but no.
This recap is from a different game today that saw the home team shrug off the heat, refuse to quit (unlike some other team we know) and slowly come back to offset back-to-back first inning home runs by the visitors and an early 4-0 deficit.
The Lansing Lugnuts tied the game in the 7th and eventually won it in the bottom of the 12th inning. The Lugs sit a half-game out of first place in the Midwest League’s Eastern Division and have already clinched a playoff berth by virtue of their second place finish in the first half of the MWL.
I’ll say this again. The Lugnuts have already secured a playoff spot at the end of the season- they could just coast. Yet they continue to battle, recently finishing up a 7-2 road trip that vaulted them temporarily into first place.
Just because the Cubs are playing like minor leaguers, they don’t have to suck. There are good minor league teams. There are good major league teams. The Cubs are neither.
You have to want it more than the other guys and the Cubs quit weeks ago.
Too bad. Comeback baseball and a ‘pennant race’ are fun. The question now is, how long do the Ricketts wait to do what needs to be done? Tommy, we aren’t getting any younger.
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100 losses is getting closer and closer
only 40 more to go, 22-40 seems like it’s very possible.
Some more numbers for you Al: still haven’t won three in a row, haven’t won a series since mid June, have only won two series since May 19th, have won two in a row only twice since May 19th. This has to be the worst team in most of our lifetime. Stunningly pathetic considering the resources this franchise has. It’s hard to be this awful, there’s no way anybody should have a job the second the season ends in San Diego.
We sound like, well, we're 21 games under .500 and don't care about baseball anymore.
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$15?!
Why, with $15, I could buy , uhm…I could buy $15.00! (What’d you say about "not smart?)
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Quade rips Castro...again.
In the post game, Quade pretty much blamed the whole game on Castro losing that ball in the sun. He said something to the effect that “the sun has been in the same spot at Wrigley for that time of day every day, and that ball has to be caught. Dempster never recovered after that”.
Quade, stop ripping the one guy that carries some long-term interest for fans, that is all of 21 years old.
Quade, I’m really starting to hate you.
Quade, if you’re back to manage this team next year, I’ll…oh crap, I don’t know!
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He really irks the shit out of me.
And I really mean that.
He can critique Castro to death, but when it comes to the vets? Not a chance in hell. He made some dumb comment the other day about the younger players not being able to do things but the vets can… It’s an dumb way of going about things. Every player should be held accountable for there dumbass mistakes, not Starlin Castro.
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Perhaps he critiques Castro
because he figures Castro is young enough to actually learn something from it. He probably figures you can bitch at Soriano from now until the end of time and it’s not going to change him. But Castro is fix-able.
I have no problem with it.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Then you critique him by talking to him after the game
Not by ranting about it in the press conference. Use your bully pulpit to call out the vets, if anything.
Angel Guzman is the man.
by cubzfan on Jul 20, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. I said he
could have called him into his office and disgussed it. I’m so tired of Quade.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
Maybe he has done that and it hasn't worked
Neither of us knows that.
The double standard here is hilarious.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The double standard from Quade is hilarious.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
by sue369 on Jul 20, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
The reality of the situation is
Castro has a high ceiling and can learn a lot from such a critique.
A lot of veterans already are set in their ways and aren’t likely to respond well to such treatment, as much as some people would like to see it done.
It might not seem fair, but that’s the truth.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It could also have the exact opposite effect.
Depends really on what kind of psyche Castro has.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If he's that fragile,
then he won’t last in MLB very long, anyway.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't really critique, however.
It was casting blame and a public de-pantsing.
Fragile or not, a guy who’s playing hard and trying to get better doesnt deserve that.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot of veterans already are set in their ways and aren’t likely to respond well to such treatment
A fair point, I suppose, but these same veterans don’t seem to ever try to improve their game.
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They might be incapable
of improvement.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Incapable of improvement?
Maybe. But not incapable of giving 100% effort, which occasionally seems lacking.
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When Al and NBF start agreeing this is what I picture:
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
More like this, if you ask me
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Doesn't mean...
…Quade shouldn’t send an occasional message to them, so the team sees no one is exempt.
When a manager appears to be semi intimidated by vets, it’s only a matter of time before the young guys just tune him out.
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by MPH73 on Jul 20, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does not matter if they are set in their ways or not. If they aren't getting it done call them out too.
You know nothing about Castro and whether he will learn from such a critique. There is nothing fair about it.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
And you know nothing about how the vets will react, either
Only the guys in the clubhouse know the truth.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Never said I did.
You were the one who said Castro could learn a lot from the critique when you don’t know that either.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
He could, and he should
He’s 21. If he can’t learn, then he should go back to Triple-A.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed,
But I still think he has tremendous upside given his youth at this point. I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm not giving up on him at all
I think he could be a superstar someday.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Me either.
I have high hopes for Castro.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if Castro improves 0% over the rest of his career
he will still be an above average MLB SS.
Yes, however: we all hope he improves (like he has from last year to this year).
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Then do it in private and don't throw him under the bus
in your postgame presser.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
If he threw, say, Soriano under the bus in a postgame presser,
would you think it was OK? (It wouldn’t bother me.)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't bother me either.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
But he doesn't.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
And that returns to my original point
That calling out Soriano might not do any good, but calling out Castro might.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If it is a double-double standard does that
negate it and make it just a standard or multiply it and make it a quadruple standard?
He should do it at the time of the infraction....
SOMEONE with some balls on this team should let him know that loafing shouldnt happen.
I think everytime Soriano loafs, which is almost everytime, its a slap in the face of those who do hustle….
Other players should be pissed at him for this and at the manager for not caring.
it's time
for a death threat toward Sue.
Business as usual by Not Nice Bruce
by WhistlerWilliams on Jul 20, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Calling anyone out in public is completely unprofessional in any profession
Only bullies and short sighted assholes do shit like that.
Does it fell good to do? Yes. Is completely counter productive? Damn right it is.
Quade should be fired simply because he doesnt know how to manage human beings, not because of the boneheaded baseball moves.
Also NBF I really hope you aren’t in management because you are not a person who should have power over anyone.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Jul 20, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes..because then he would actually be showing some consistency
The problem for me isn’t that he called Castro out once. It’s that he ONLY calls Castro or Barney out. In fact, he’s called Castro out several times the last few years. I’ve never heard him say a remotely disparaging word about ANY other player. This is the first time I’ve even heard him say something about Barney.
That lack of consistency is noticed by everyone on the team.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I should say about any other player SPECIFICALLY
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Just because you say something doesn't make it the "truth."
I guarantee you a good manager has no problem ripping into his vets in private.
A good manager also doesn’t rip into any player in front of the media.
Yes, a good manager never has ripped a player in front of the media
These multimillionaires have such fragile psyches that it just might crush them.
Earl Weaver never criticized any of his players in public. Not one word from Billy Martin. Ozzie Guillen never does it.
Christ, just because you don’t like me doesn’t mean you have to make stupid statements.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
All three of those guys would have taken Sorinano out by now at some point during a game for loafing.
by TJ11 on Jul 20, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get it, TJ, you hate Soriano
If Soriano ends up dead in an alley someplace, I’m sure you’ll be the first suspect.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
As usual, skipping the point,
How long do you think those three would put up with the constant loafing?
Is it constant loafing?
Is it an inabillity to “hustle” up to your standard?
This actually was a pretty good conversation until the Bozo Brigade showed up.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we go with the Soriano defender....
So he does not loaf and only Castro should be held accountable because he is younger….
Amazing and Hilarious!!!!
Oh gosh.
This will end well.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
want some popcorn?
Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land
by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
I’m going to go get some now.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
His defense of loafing really isnt worth it...
Sorry guys….
Some fans, the Sheep, dont care if the Cubs try or not.
Save some for me
This idiot doesn’t deserve the time of day.
Later, folks.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on, Bruce.
I’ve actually enjoyed our little chat tonight. Don’t let these guys get to you, all right? :)
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
At least you didn't
resort to name calling like he did.
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by sue369 on Jul 20, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd! NBF appears to believe that calling people names
such as “Bozo Brigade” and “idiot” serves to reinforce the point he is trying to make and also makes him look smarter.
Whats to talk about, I think Sori is a loaf and should not be starting....
If playing time were based on results and not a paycheck, Johnson would be starting.
NBF defends the loafing because he is older and it would be a waste of time….Which is a bunch of crap.
I will answer the above question I asked him, since he could not, as usual handle a direct question…..
Martin
Weaver
and Guillen
Would not allow themselves and their team to be shown up by Soriano like he does the Cubs….He would have been benched LONG ago.
Go Ahead NOT Bruce…tell me they would have let it go…since he was “older and set in his ways”
Hey, TJ...
… while what a lot of what you say is true, I don’t think repeating it over and over and over is really accomplishing anything here.
We know you think Soriano is lazy and should be benched. There really isn’t any point to keep saying this again and again and again. All it does is start arguments that don’t end well.
Let’s move on.
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by Al Yellon on Jul 20, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Soriano is not lazy...he has no legs left...
what looks like lazy to some is Soriano giving pretty much all he has…which ain’t much. And no, Reed Johnson was brought in to be a 4th or 5th OFer…not an everyday starter.
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by Easy Ed on Jul 21, 2011 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
And the further point is, to TJ: we know how you feel. You don’t have to repeat it over and over and over and over.
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NIce, resorting to name calling is your greatest forte.
Calling people “Bozo Brigade” for not sharing your delusional perspective on a Cubs related situation once again. Sir, you are the Bozo Brigade. Reading your passive-aggressive justification of what effect calling out Castro and/or Soriano would do is pure drivel and you have no clue what would happen if Quade called out Soriano, it’s just the latest example of pure conjecture on your part.
There are countless, COUNTLESS, examples of managers calling out veterans for loafing or just being bad (or at the very least moving them down in the lineup). If a player (any player young or old) loafs, that reflects poorly on the manager. Castro does not loaf, nor does Barney. These 2 play hard and play well 98% of the time, yet other veterans get a free pass.
I applauded Ozzie Guillen when he yanked Alex Rios and then called him out for loafing on the basepaths a few weeks ago. Joe Torre moved ARod down in the lineup a few years ago for sucking. It happens all the time and it’s a problem that Quade calls out the kids when it’s really Dempster’s fault for sucking so bad! That’s what set the tone for the game, not Castro losing a ball in the sun on the hottest day of the year.
Quade must have forgotten about the stud play Castro made to keep the game tied last night with his quick catch and throw home to get Utley at the plate in the 8th yesterday.
by magicblue on Jul 20, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Give Not Nice Bruce credit
No death threats to TJ or Sue so far tonight. Usually gives a death threat or three to TJ so props to Not Nice.
by WhistlerWilliams on Jul 20, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Where has he done that before?
Or are you just making things up to make people look bad.
We'll all miss you Ron.
No
You are the death threat guy Not Nice Bruce
by WhistlerWilliams on Jul 20, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
OK, I've had enough of this.
He has not made death threats. Only you have mentioned this. Stop it.
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Had enough?
Only three death threats in this thread http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/7/3/2255437/chicago-cubs-chicago-white-sox-preview-sunday#71144811
I understand some people are immune from scrutiny or sanctions from you, and so be it, but don’t pretend he did not do it.
by WhistlerWilliams on Jul 21, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, let's see.
That was 18 days ago. I can’t read every single comment here. Not one person flagged that or emailed me to complain. I’d have done something about it then.
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by Al Yellon on Jul 21, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
Fair enough regarding not reading every post and not being alerted.
I also wanted to address your statement that it did not happen.
by WhistlerWilliams on Jul 21, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
As noted...
… I did not know it happened. Wish someone had told me.
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Weaver
got on Don Stanhouse all the time. He called him " 3 pack" among other things. I grew up around Baltimore in those days. Weaver did not take BS from players and he sat them for lack of effort.
I'm assuming you only mean he sat rookies, because clearly
disciplining veterans doesn’t serve a purpose
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you just call Ozzie Guillen a good manager?
And lump him in with Earl Weaver?
REALLY???
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by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
That is why Quade needs to be removed
whether it is tomorrow or at the end of the year. Hurdle sat McCutchen early in the year for not hustling. He is a 3rd year player and 26 years old, not a kid like Castro.
Enough of this " well the vets are set in there ways" Yeah if your winning. This team needs a strong voice, and Quade is not it and is afraid to sit a Soriano or a Ramirez for there lack of effort. Ramy’s effort in the first two months of this year.
You defend Quade like he is your brother.
by Grockcubs on Jul 20, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly...no wonder the vets all want to stay....They are not held to any standards...
I bet they laugh whe n castro gets yelled at for stuff Soriano does everyday.
Regardless
you STILL do it to set the PROPER EXAMPLE. Quade is a joke. This team is a joke. technically, you are correct NBF, but a mature and successful manager is fair in his criticism. This rule applies to all sports, regardless of veteran status.
This sounds horrible, but I have officially hopped on the “lets have the #1 draft pick next year” bandwagon. I think my wish may come true!!!
"A lot of veterans already are set in their ways and aren’t likely to respond well to such treatment, "
What are they going to do? Play worse? Sulk? Who cares? You still call them out for crappy play.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
So, by your standard,
Quade can’t call out his veterans, many of whom have been around for years, for loafing and lollygagging, but it IS okay for him to call out a young player who is likely going to be around for about ten more years?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like him to call out both,
but calling out a kid who can learn from his mistake is better than calling out a vet who isn’t likely to learn from it.
Your hardest teachers often are the ones who aren’t tolerant, who hold you to a standard. And they’ll do that more with kids who at least have the potential to be great.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It just doesn't seem like Quade is that kind of "hard teacher"
… who holds ANYONE to a standard. Until today, maybe.
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Why call him out in the media?
Why not just bench him one game to get his attention. For that matter he should be doing that with the vets. It appears that he is more concerned with being buds with the vets. Now I think I know why he was the players choice for manager.
by LT on Jul 20, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand and agree with what you're saying here,
But I think there is also some onus on the veterans who clearly need to find ways to improve their game and play better. Two errors on one play from Pena??? Come on, that needs to be addressed.
Now I can’t answer for what is said behind closed doors, but for Quade to not call out Pena for that while calling out Castro does seem to send the wrong kind of message IMO.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
How many errors does Pena have
and how many does Castro have?
How many potential errors by Castro has Pena saved?
I guess behavior patterns and history also have to be considered.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken.
Quade shouldn’t focus all his postgame anger on a player who is learning the intricacies of the game. At some point, the veterans need to be called out too, whether it’s for committing errors or loafing around the bases and turning what should be a standup double into a long single.
At times like this, I’m reminded of a quote from Michael Jordan:
“I can accept failure. Everyone fails at something. But I can’t accept not trying.”
The Cubs need a manager who has taken that quote to heart.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Quade has done some of this
I think fans sometimes can be a little sadistic about getting what they see as an adequate pound of flesh, particularly with the way this team is going.
Bottom line: If Castro is going to live up to his potential, he has to stop making so many errors and bonehead plays like today.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree about Castro,
But I also wouldn’t mind seeing other players improve, or at the least, put forth more effort than it seems they are at this point.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed and this is part of the problem with calling him up so early.
He is still a raw player in many ways. Talented but raw. For many players you never see these years since they are in AA/AAA. It is a concern with Castro. He needs to improve. Hopefully he will.
I didn’t see Quade’s comments but I’m not sure they were appropriate. I wonder if frustration is starting to get to Quade.
John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.
I think you might be on to something
with your last sentence.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I figure everyone's probably frustrated at this point.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
He lost it in the sun!
Jesus. This was not a lack of hustle play, or throwing to the wrong base, or forgetting how many outs there were. He lost a ball in the sun. Should he have conceded the play to Barney who might have seen it? Sure. But he wasn’t loafing.
Scott Bora$ is satan.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Jul 21, 2011 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions
This is were I disagree
The kid gets called out, while the vets do the same. So he is thinking " What the hell is the double standard" I guess Castro will expect the same treatment when he has 10 years in.
Or he'll say "eff it, I'm not playing for this douche anymore"
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Your "greatest" teachers
called out anyone who didn’t meet standards. High potential or not.
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by Unique on Jul 21, 2011 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The worst teachers are the ones who don't attempt any consistency
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
What was Castro's mistake? Losing the ball in the sun?
How does one teach around that?
It’s not a loafing or effort issue. Maybe not losing the ball in the sun can be taught, but The Alopecian didn’t say anything that would do that.
"The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the talk" - Philip Marlowe
by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Here I thought Cubs fans wanted to see "fire" from their manager
Maybe he has been saying it privately and he hasn’t gotten the message. That wouldn’t be surprising.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, this,
Agree w/ NotB. With his minor league experience, he may be the only player he can save and might listen to him.
But it might be better behind closed doors, as discussed here already/
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jul 20, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe so
I’m sure Quade is plenty frustrated with the general direction of things as it is. Maybe this just set him off. Maybe he’s lectured Castro about this sort of thing privately and he still keeps doing it. Who knows.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 20, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He keeps letting infield pops drop?
Wouldn’t we have seen that?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He keeps losing the ball in the sun on the sunniest, hottest day of the year.
Won’t that kid ever learn?!?!
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
DFA!!!!
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by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont mind quade criticizing castro when its warranted
but thats dumb. the cubs would have just found a new way to lose
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by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup, I posted above
that Holly and Kaplan (mostly Kaplan) were pissed that Quade threw Castro under the bus.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
Memo to Quade,
If you’re going to rip a young, up-and-coming player for making a bonehead error, also rip the veterans for loafing around the bases!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
But he won't.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
Quade will be back....
Someone on WSCR said that no GM has ever hired their 4th manager in their tenure…..they could be wrong but it makes sense
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 9:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
When was Soriano's last homer?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
2006
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny... dosen't seem all that long ago
Sori was having a resurgance year…or does it? How many in a short time??? A dozen or so? Then…pssffft…Typical Alfie. Tho he may have fooled some BCBers… I was not one of them. (Nice to be right…once in a while!). :)
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Since you asked
June 19.
He hit 10 HR in April. Since then, he has homered on: May 2, May 27, June 16 and June 19.
That really is pathetic.
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And to think I saw that in person.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're saying
… that if you kept coming to games, Soriano would have kept hitting HR?
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We, he DID hit the one on June 16 right at Shanghai Badger and myself.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
Guess you’ll have to go to games to get Soriano to hit more HR this year. Otherwise, he’s done.
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The sad thing is,
I have no plans to go to any more games this year. Sorry Al.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't apologize to me, apologize to Soriano.
:-)
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I will if I get the chance.
Unfortunately, seeing as I won’t be at any more games this year, I may not get that chance.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously
not hard enough!!! You’re still a Cubs Fan, aintcha?! :)
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That's
Three homers in the last 70 games, for a guy who was supposed to be one of our main power guys.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
Yeah.
It does seem as if his power is gone. His SLG in those 70 games (he’s played 55 of them) is .339.
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The rash of errors
is a sign of a really bad team. It actually seems longer than a nine-game streak!
I think many of the players just go thru the motions now, knowing that they aren’t that good, and that they will still get paid no matter what happens this year.
Amazing the lack of real Major league talent on this Cub team. And that goes for many other teams as well. Seems like the talent pool for baseball keeps shrinking every year. Pro Football and Basketball are stealing many of the best athletes from Baseball.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Jul 20, 2011 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
True perhaps
If NFL woulda taken Shark, we coulda been saved years of pain and avoided the great big “?” that now rests on him in the off-season…
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What's the question?
Offering Shark a contract would be idiotic. The labor agreement limits how much you could cut a player’s salary… and that is even if he would accept.
Anyone want to take a chance on Shark next year for $3M+? Eh… no.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
No, I do not. But our options may be limited
And, in all fairness, he’s been anything but horrid for last several weeks, thusly, the “?”
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You can probably pick up quite a few better pitchers
for $3M+
by LT on Jul 20, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hello LT
We’ll havta discuss this again at seasons end. And no, I’m not a Shark Fan.
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He hasn't been bad. He's been fine.
But you can’t spend that kind of money on a middle reliever (see Grabow, John)… they are too inconsistent. It just isn’t a good use of resources.
If he was a lock-down set-up guy… maybe you consider it. But you just can’t sign him again and hope he finds that next gear.
So while he hasn’t been bad, the Cubs really, really need to spend their money elsewhere.
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by Orval Overall on Dec 17, 2010 1:19 PM CST
Seems like the talent pool for baseball keeps shrinking every year. Pro Football and Basketball are stealing many of the best athletes from Baseball.
Not at all. Remember, the NFL takes very few athletes from outside the USA. Baseball’s talent pool has been expanding around the world.
And, this has not stopped other teams from having exceptionally good athletes.
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Very true...
10 or 20 years ago, I highly doubt you would have found even one European professional baseball player, and now there are several playing successfully in the USA (http://www.mister-baseball.com/category/europeans-in-the-usa/).
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
DeVoss a leadoff single
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Advances on a grounder
Steals third without a throw.
Scores on a SF
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
At this point, I'd just like to begin winning series again.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 8:42 PM CDT reply actions
Fixed.
At this point, I’d just like to begin winning
seriesagain.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 21, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Quade!
Here is another play that “set the tone for the whole game.”
Why didn’t you throw Ramirez or DeWitt under the bus?
Sunday 7/17 Bottom 1st 1 Out, Aramis Ramirez on second
Marlon Byrd flies out to right fielder Mike Stanton
[Aramis Ramirez should have tagged up from second, but did not]
Blake DeWitt singles on a line drive to right fielder Mike Stanton. Aramis Ramirez scores. Blake DeWitt out at 2nd on the throw, right fielder Mike Stanton to first baseman Gaby Sanchez to shortstop Hanley Ramirez.
[If Ramirez is on third, DeWitt doesn’t get caught off first when the throw is cut off]
Nice to see ya, Al
Nice to spend time with my dad, and I bought Glanville’s book, which he signed and took a picture with me.
Other than that . . . Dad and I left after the 5th! Something we never would have done 20 years ago, even if it was that hot. I think.
by Shanghai Badger on Jul 20, 2011 8:53 PM CDT reply actions
Hope you enjoy Glanville's book.
I liked it.
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I left after 7 today
and last week I left in the 5th.
This is the first year I’ve ever done that. I always stayed until the end. I just don’t care anymore. This team may have finally broken me.
"They sell every ticket to every game, win or lose!" - Tom Ricketts
You're not alone.
I always stay till the end. But that’s just me. I think this team is close to “breaking” a lot of fans.
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For some silly reason
I left with one out in the 9th. Wanted to catch a bus to just get out of there.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
The "nine straight games with an error" factoid surprised me.
I assumed they’d already done that at least twice this year.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
At least they've been able to do SOMETHING for more than two straight games.
Man, is this season dismal.
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See, that's where you are likely wrong.
What is it you want Tom Ricketts to do? Stand up and yell and scream at a news conference every day? Fire everyone in sight?
If this keeps up, I am 100% sure that changes will be made at the end of the season.
But just because he doesn’t satisfy you by making daily statements, does not mean changes are not being considered. Frankly, I’d rather they be well-thought-out than knee-jerk.
Wouldn’t you?
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by Al Yellon on Jul 20, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Al you better have one of your finest tirades in BCB history
If nothing is done….
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 9:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed....I think Al is being positive....That's cool....
But the Cubs have given me little reason for optimism…..
Watch next weekend when they sit tight at the trade deadline….
Until the end of the season.
Then we’ll see.
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I'm beginning to be impressed by how bad they are.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
by shoemile on Jul 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nessecity is the mother of invention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL....I'm going to start saying that to the people that love to ask me about the Cubs when they're losing
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by cooliogirl47 on Jul 20, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
Shoe spews an “Instant Classic”??? :)
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Getting a base hit would also fit into that category.
But that’s small consolation to us Cubs fans, cheering base hits at this point.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I have seen a lot of bad Cubs teams.
But this is approaching the worst of the worst, which would be the 1980 and 1981 squads.
The 1966 team lost 103 games, but you knew they had good, fairly young players and would get better. There’s none of that (save Castro) on this team.
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It's possible that our views (and expectations)
are overly distorted by our payroll:Wins ratio and post 07/08 expectations…maybe?
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...Gasp!...
That would mean…SUCKING ALL THE TIME WAS BETTER?! :) Nite Shoe, etc.
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Just about.
The Cubs are so bad, they couldn’t even beat the Cubs right now.
"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"
Wonder what an intrasquad game would look like.
It would either be 28-27 or 0-0.
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Box Score (?)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
3 4 3 6 4 6 1 0 3 24 0 28
3 4 4 8 3 4 0 1 4 25 0 27
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Huge for the home team
to have that shutdown inning in the top of the 8th.
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
With no hits and tons of errors - yes, I suppose so
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I'm guessing there would be at least
51 strikeouts in this game as well, correct? Or would there be zero? I forget, does bad hitting beat bad pitching?
They have two liter bottles now? To think I spent all that time demanding a liter!
I forget, does bad hitting beat bad pitching?
judging by the pirates cubs series, yes
Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land
by jesus christos on Jul 21, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Pssst, alkappy
’re late to the party! Theres a source that pays you to go to that series! Just call: ♣/☼-♀↨↓-8♫☺☻ and tell them…uh? Dang! My numeric pad is screwed up again!
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Just how the heck do I enter that on my phone????
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohhh... I see...
You’re dead-set on Soriano bouncing one off your bean, eh? :)
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No, just want to know what numbers to press.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
So was I!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jul 20, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
My sarcasm radar
just plain SUCKS!!! :) Nite V C F
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is that some sort of code?
The Matrix? Neo?
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 9:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No, just ALT+NUMERICS
You can do all sortsa junk! ♪♫☼↓♫◄↕↑A◙, etc. Thanks, xoxo, Neo
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ALT+NUMERICS for long distance numbers to an alternative universe?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
i still wouldn't go
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by Unclemike on Jul 20, 2011 9:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
they'd have to pay me
Blake "The Franchise" DeWitt will lead us to the promised land
by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
this trade deadline is going to be boring
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Quade is simply not a Major League manager...
I was afraid of this season playing out like it has to present. Now the Cubs are screwed. Calling out anyone for a ball lost in the sun on the hottest damn day of the year is ludicrous. Saying that it set the tone? BS. It was the first inning! It’s embarrassing to be a Cubs fan this year. Quade is inept. I usually check the score to see what stupid shit he has done or said that day. Please go away Mike Quade.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Jul 20, 2011 10:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Well baking at 95 degrees watching the Cubs lose
in bad, sloppy game is not going to be my summer vacation highlight. It was so bad that Al was rooting for the Cubs to be no hit so he could see something historic.
Friday will be the first game I can remember that I am in Chicago to see that I am not going to. I don’t have a ticket ( sold my season seats) and I would rather go to the beach.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 20, 2011 10:19 PM CDT reply actions
Being a Daytona resident
I always find it humorous when I hear Chicagoans talk about their “beach”. lol
We'll all miss you Ron.
Not much beach, but a GREAT lake to swim in.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 20, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize you were in Daytona.
I’m gonna be back down there end of next week. Going to the game on Sunday night.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
so...
who the hell is michael martinez?
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by jesus christos on Jul 20, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
A guy replacing an imported injured regular ( Polanco)
who is doing a great job. Imaging that.
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Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 21, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about "great job"
He was hitting .228 coming into yesterday.
He made us look bad. He’s been pretty ineffective himself before this series
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Completely Underachieving Bad Saps
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Floccinaucinihilipilification
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Wtaching the game yesterday
I thought I couldn’t get any worse, but Quades psotgame remarks proved me wrong.
Suddenly the idea of having an interim manager finish the season is looking pretty appealing.
by DamageControlFreak on Jul 21, 2011 5:38 AM CDT reply actions
Man there's no game today.
This place is gonna get mean.
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We need another Cleveland Spiders game thread.
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The scary thing is, the Spiders would probably win.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Chicago
I’m from KY and go to Chicago every other month or so for two or three days to visit friends. This is the first time I’ve ever considered not going to a Cubs game while they were at home during my visit. I’m sure I’ll probably go but the point I’m trying to make is, if someone who has never ever in his life considered not going to a home game when given the opprutunity is considering not going how many other people out there aren’t going to make the trip?
:-/ just a thought
Quade needs to pick his moments better
The Chicago Sun-Times article about how he ‘called out’ Castro and Barney for indecision on what Quade called a game changing pop up drop is kind of ridiculous. This wasn’t a lack of hustle play. Castro lost the ball in the sun. Terrible plaly, yes? But hardly a play to make a media example out of.
Yep.
The clueless manager can’t even figure out the right time to call out players. Pathetic.
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I wonder if he has a personal problem with Castro
Because honestly, he seems to single him out A LOT.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
You know, that is probably the most logical explanation I've heard about this
Maybe, since he’s a career Minor League coach, he doesn’t like seeing guys come straight up from AA ball and prefers to see them “develop” in AAA?
Well one theory that occurred to me is that Quade is a lot like a 20 year teacher
who has had to deal with a lot of “bad” kids.
He just has no patience for developing players anymore. He wants to deal only with veterans because they are what they are. It would also explain why he’d rather have DeWitt in left than Campana or Montanez or Colvin and why Koyie Hill gets 80% of the starts when Soto goes down.
Of course, if that is the case, he has no business being a manager of any team and should go back to being a 3rd base coach.
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by Nunyabidness on Jul 21, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Game changer
Quade’s statement was absurd. The game changing tone started about 100 games ago.
by andrerogers on Jul 21, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
What would be great is if a Team Leader like Dempster
would step up and publicly state that the game isn’t on Castro or Barney, but rather his crappy pitching yesterday. Or even just say that it was a team effort being so bad. Anything but sit back and let others take the fall for his sub-standard effort.
Harry Carey impersonations and all that are great, but we need a leader, not a slightly amusing Canadian.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Jul 21, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
I really think that if the Cubs put an end to this day game crap, they would begin to compete every single year. They have one of the most loyal fan bases, so you cannot say they don’t have the money to spend. They do a great job of developing their minor league talent. A goat has nothing to do with this team’s lack of success.
this
team is so much like last years team its scary.same old shit.they just cant seem to score more than 3 runs a game.i really had high hopes when rudy came aboard but no difference.
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