Chicago Cubs vs. Houston Astros Preview, Friday 7/22, 1:20 CT: Losing
You will witness something at Wrigley Field today (whether you're there or watching on TV) that has not happened in 49 years.
The Cubs are 21 games under .500. The Astros are the only MLB team currently worse; they sit at 32 games under. 500. (For one thing, that means that even if the Astros sweep the series, they will still be in last place.)
Anyway, the last time a Cubs team was at least 20 games under .500 in July, and hosted a team that was also at least 20 games under .500, was on Sunday, July 29, 1962. Going into that date, the Cubs were 38-65. Guess who the visitors were? That's right -- Houston, then known as the Colt 45s, in their first season. They were 36-64. The teams had been rained out on July 28, so they played a doubleheader -- naturally, they split the two games, which were played in front of a sparse gathering of 10,334.
There will be more people at Wrigley Field this afternoon. But the teams they'll watch will be just about as bad.
Thunderstorms are passing through Chicago this morning, but they are expected to clear by game time.
Cubs lineup:
Fukudome RF, Castro SS, Ramirez 3B, Peña 1B, Byrd CF, Soto C, Soriano LF, Barney 2B, Zambrano P
Astros lineup:
Bourn CF, Altuve 2B, Pence RF, Lee LF, Wallace 1B, Johnson 3B, Barmes SS, Quintero C, Norris P
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Carlos Zambrano threw a really nice game against the Astros on May 31 at Wrigley Field. Pay no attention to the ninth inning of that game; this is about Z. Carlos Lee has hit him hard during his career -- .369 in 65 at-bats, including six doubles and five home runs. Lee isn't the player he used to be, but he's always loved hitting at Wrigley Field.
Bud Norris has started two career games against the Cubs, both in 2010. He's got a career ERA of 1.50 vs. the Cubs, and 13 strikeouts in 12 innings. Current Cubs are hitting just .176 (6-for-34) against him with no home runs. Clearly, we are doomed.
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Today's first pitch thread will be up at 1:20 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.
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Bottom Feeder Battle - Go Cubs!
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Jul 22, 2011 11:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Don't everyone jump up and down with excitement all at once.
There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?
3 IN A ROW! 3 IN A ROW!
Let’s do it boys!!!
(sigh)
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
If the Cubs don't win three in a row at some point this season...
Quade should be fired for that reason alone.
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
I was thinking Hendry...
…but I appreciate your enthusiasm.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
I'm not a Hendry hater...
…I just think that his time has come and gone. It’s really too bad, because we’re only a few seasons away from one of the best in Cubs’ history turned into this mess.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
I'm not a Hendry hater either...
Overall, I think he’s made more good moves than bad moves. But a team with the Cubs’ payroll should never be this inept. The talk just three years ago was to have the Cubs ALWAYS be in a position to challenge for postseason play. So in a way it’s “what have you done for me lately” with Hendry. Not that the players are let off the hook that easily – they have played poorly all season.
I honestly thought the Cubs could be close to .500 with any luck. But it’s been one big nosedive and it’s time to move on…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
I agree with both of you
Hendry has done some good things and some bad things, but it’s time for a change.
by Josh Timmers on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
"We're only a few seasons away from one of the best in Cubs' history"
Except that those seasons a few years ago are like the one year your wife gets implants, then a few years down the road they start sagging, leaking, and has them removed, leaving her looking worse than before the entire episode began.
by Danwood on Jul 22, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not so sure
If the Gillick rumors are true, I think that the likelihood that Hendry stays takes a tick up.
From all I’ve heard, Hendry is a well liked (and respected) guy around other MLB front offices. What if Gillick comes in and thinks the problem lies elsewhere?
by jerry morales rules on Jul 22, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Serious question, I swear
Do you think your baseball operations opinion is better than Gillick’s?
What if this (Hall of Fame inductee) baseball executive takes his good efforts, studies the situation, and comes to the conclusion that it’s not Hendry’s fault? Would you give Gillick and Hendry the benefit of the doubt?
by jerry morales rules on Jul 22, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If Gillick can look at the past 10 years objectively and arrive at the conclusion that Hendry's part in this isn't big enough to warrant him being replaced...
then GIAFI.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 22, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course I don't.
Overall, that dude is way, way, smarter than me when it comes to baseball operations. If it was me building a team vs. him, his would blow me out of the water, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean that people can’t make mistakes. If it isn’t Hendry’s fault, then whose is it? I’ve just seen enough of blaming everyone but Hendry for his own failures.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
If Gillick...
…was hired and he did keep Hendry, I have a feeling it would be more because Gillick would need a year to get his arms around everything and also to keep Ricketts from needing to eat Hendry’s salary and still pay a new GM.
Also, Gillick will know Hendry won’t be able to do anything without his approval and he may think he could handle that for a year before he brings in his own GM.
With that said, if Gillick comes on board and Hendry gets an extension, I will hit the bottle real hard.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I thought Hendry should have been relieved of his duties prior to this season
and from my perspective, it has only gotten worse since. So, from the view that you and I have, I agree with you.
Maybe, though, many of the big picture decisions were made by team owners and not him. Maybe if he was provided with consistent leadership and objectives he wouldn’t have had to take the risks he did. As you wrote, everyone can make mistakes.
by jerry morales rules on Jul 22, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It's Hendry's...
…job to define “big picture” decisions when it comes to baseball operations and I highly doubt Ricketts is a guy who took that away from him.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It is Hendry's job to do that
But it can be overruled by ownership. I don’t know to the extent that ownership overruled him. That doesn’t mean I give him the benefit of the doubt. That just means that I’m open to the possibility that it could exist.
If I have a concern in regards to this, it is the ownership prior to Ricketts. The results of that were felt on Ricketts watch though.
by jerry morales rules on Jul 23, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
everyone can make mistakes...
and Jim Hendry has proven that over and over and over again.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Jul 22, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see many risks that are currently affecting this club.
Soriano is one, obviously. But I can’t shrug off Fukudome or Bradley/Silva as being the Trib’s fault. This team is really bad, and that’s Jim Hendry’s fault.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Anyone...
…who places accountability elsewhere, has their head buried in the sand.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Yeah, but it's Lou's fault that Koyie Hill is still on the team.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Back up catcher
With a .601 OPS and a SB for under a million. Not sure who else we’d have here. Giving him the majority of at-bats when Soto is down rather than a called up Castillo is an obvious mistake, but either way he’s not bad to have on the team.
Don’t let being terrible in Spring Training sour your perspective on a guy.
Being well liked...
…and respected for how you deal with people, is a hell of a lot different than being respected for your ability to run a baseball organization.
There is no question that Hendry is well liked, in fact, he may be the most well liked GM in all of baseball with his peers, because he is easy to deal with and a nice guy. But, when it comes to someone putting his reputation on the line (as Gillick would do), being well liked is not what he will be looking for in the long run.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
We'll see
If Gillick indeed thinks Jim is the right guy, I must admit it would be fun to watch some heads explode.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It's always interesting how much you enjoy "fellow" Cubs fans' misery
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no misery about this
The season and the team are what they are.
When December comes and there’s no baseball, I’m going to miss it, regardless of its quality.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you on that last line.
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on Jul 22, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not what I said.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 22, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see much fun in setting this team back even further.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Unless, in Gillick's opinion,
that isn’t true.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And of course, since he's been right everywhere he's gone,
he’ll be wrong here. :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Welp, you're the one who says the Cubs might be forever doomed.
And if Gillick comes in and keeps Hendry, then I might have to agree with you.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
How could you not keep Hendry...
as your drinking buddy who you get baseball advice from, and know to do the exact opposite.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Well of course we would keep him on staff.
Where did Ed Lynch get re-assigned to? And what job was Dave Littlefield was hired for? He can do one of those.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
I'd say Gillick, and for that matter Hendry,
have forgotten more baseball than either of us know put together.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Jim Hendry has definitely forgotten quite a bit about baseball.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
He gently laid that on the Tee for you.
Way to knock ’er outa the park!
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Success...
…is not based on what you know, it is based on the decisions you make on that information.
Knowledge, and one’s ability to make good decisions on that knowledge are quite different.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
very interesting
People have been beside themselves begging Ricketts to bring in a Baseball Ops President and he goes out and gets one of the best in the biz…then those people immediately start throwing him under the bus at the prospect that Hendry could stay…
Has anyone ever thought that we are wrong?
I used to defend Hendry.
Clearly I’ve been wrong many times.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Has Gillick been hired?
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Yup, he is skipping his HoF induction to come save the Cubbies!
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Furthermore, while many would like a Baseball Ops President
It doesn’t mean that he will be above criticism.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
If you mean...
…this whole story is untrue. Yes, that is very possible.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I meant that
this will happen but I have nothing to base that on
I think this may be Ricketts mid-season pick-me-up/look at me I am doing something that doesnt involve throwing employees under the bus or firing everyone in sight
He went out and got him?
So far, I just checked the franchise roster and don’t see a Baseball Ops President mentioned anywhere.
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 22, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would you want a baseball guy watching your baseball guys?
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
Us? Wrong?
How dare you spread such heresy!
(Of course, this is all based on a couple of hypotheticals, but …)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say this...
…if Gillick was hired and Hendry survived for any period of time (more than his contract) and the team started to go in a positive direction, it will simply point to Gillick’s ability to get things on the right track and make sure Hendry didn’t make any goofy decisions to set them back.
If you think Gillick is going to come in here and not interject his will in regards to; scouting, player development, organizational philosphy, approve trades and roster selection, I think you would be mistaken. He isn’t going to just sit in his office and tell Jim; “hey, its your club, go do whatever you want”.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Or that ownership
didn’t make any goofy decisions, for that matter.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
They already...
…have made the goofiest decision (or lack of decision) already, by not hiring someone like Gillick 2 years ago.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
My wife is going to the game with her girlfriends for her Birthday
29 again. Best reason I know to have fun at the ballpark this year.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
I kept saying I was 39
until I heard my 88 year old mother-in-law say she was 39. Now I’m not sure I want to say that anymore.
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on Jul 22, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Say you're 29
The game keeps you young!
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Jul 22, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
And it would make more sense why they are still carding me at Wrigley.
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on Jul 22, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
you cutie!
;)
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Jul 22, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's hope the Cubs break the norm
and give her something to really celebrate.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 22, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
My wife has been to 2 games this season
The Cubs are 2-0, including the win vs. Roy Halladay this week. Let the streak continue.
"On offense, your most precious possessions are your 27 outs" - Earl Weaver
by RiskyBusiness on Jul 22, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Two things
The Astros are the only MLB team currently worse; they sit at 32 games under. 500. (For one thing, that means that even if the Astros sweep the series, they will still be in last place.)
This should be a WHEN, not an IF
Also, the good news about this awful year is that we will most likely get a top 5 pick in next year’s draft. Too early to start scouting/make predictions?
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
Also, Al
Lee isn’t the player he used to be, but he’s always loved hitting at Wrigley Field.
Lee is having a pretty solid year
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Jul 22, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
But he still isn’t the HR threat he used to be. He’s only got seven HR and a .759 OPS, way below his career norms.
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Pretty solid
Not outstanding. He’s always been a liability in the field at best, but he’s not hurting the team
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Jul 22, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Put it this way.
He’s having only a slightly better year than Alfonso Soriano. If Lee were a Cub and doing this, the torches & pitchforks mob would be out.
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If Soriano was hitting .275 and had 27 doubles
I’d be jumping for joy
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Jul 22, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Not quite twice the hitter
But even at his “worst”, Lee is way better than Soriano right now. Lee’s OPS+ this year is 112. Soriano’s is 98.
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Both of those players
could result in a nice return in a trade to build the future of the club. Given that the Cubs are hopelessly out of it, and that playing Reed makes very little difference in the future of this season, it makes sense to play your trade bait.
Looking at the weather radar right now
We may not get more than 10,334 people at the game today.
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 22, 2011 11:09 AM CDT reply actions
I am still at home.
Waiting for it to stop raining.
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I really hope they get this game in.
My husband is going. Between having no power most of last week and having no air conditioner this of all weeks, he really could use some fun time away.
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on Jul 22, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
"Fun Time" and "Chicago Cubs" don't exactly go together
Hope the A/C comes back on soon!
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Jul 22, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Someone finally came just now to put in a new unit. Yay!
Never know….who’d have thought Lopez would beat Halladay the other day?
Fasten those seat belts...
by katie casey on Jul 22, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Not this guy
Enjoy the cold air!
"Baseball is almost the only orderly thing in a very unorderly world. If you get three strikes, even the best lawyer in the world can't get you off." ~ Bill Veeck
by Musicdude10 on Jul 22, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I predict...
…the Cubs win today and Zambrano cramps up.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Good to have baseball back
Really glad I missed the angst threads…don’t need that aggravation.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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It's hardly baseball...
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 22, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
True, but it beats soccer, he he
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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Obviously you didn't see the Women's US team vs. Our Chicago Cubs...
it was a slaughter… not a game.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
Not a game, not a game, not a game.
We talkin’ bout… Slaughter.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry...
I think soccer is an abomination and should be abolished…he he just kidding.
Seriously, I do not like soccer at all…
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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Meh, diff'rent strokes.
I enjoy watching a good match every now and again.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 22, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't apologize for your opinion, this is Amurrricah!
But I shall continue to look down my nose at you. You give Swans a bad name… classless. :)
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
ugh....
Two of the absolute worst teams in all of baseball..I wouldn’t want to go to any of these 3 games…..I hope to see some brown paper bags….
Two Words: Salty Saltwell
by Unclemike on Jul 22, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
The frightening thing is
this is listed as a “platinum” game on the Cubs website. The pillow fight of the weekend in baseball is a “platinum” series. Yikes.
..more like pewter.
I'm not sure
that isn’t an insult to pewter.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Jul 22, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Try aluminum.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jul 22, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I predict a 27 game winning streak starting today...
…They’ll best the 1916 New York Giants for the MLB record.
First place by September 21st after they sweep the Brewers at home.
I’m surprisingly not that drunk either.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
Don't put that kind of pressure on this Cubs team!
I’ll settle for 26 out of 27…
Get 'em on, Get 'em over, Get 'em in!
by DKT on Jul 22, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With talk of the Cubs being willing to eat a big chunk of Soriano's contract
they have to be playing him with shopping him in mind. Reed Johnson was on a hot streak hitting and has now been benched for Soriano. I’d say that we would all pitch in to help pay off Sori’s contract, but we already are.
Saw a Soriano "trade idea"....
to SF for Zito and Rowand. Money works out about the same, and it might keep Dave Bush from making some starts in August for the Cubs. And I would love to see Soriano cover LF in SF.
F*ck those f*ckin' fans who come out here and say they're Cub fans that are supposed to be behind you, rippin' every f*ckin' thing you do.
I think that idea has become an annual thing.
GM's are in charge of Managers, not the other way around.
What do SF people say about this?
Rowands got 2 rings, he must be doing something right. Plus he’d run through a wall as we saw back in his Philly days. Zito has a nice curveball…
In my lifetime please!
What Rowand did right to get those 2 rings:
He knew how to end up on teams that have dominant starting pitching.
by Jody Jody Davis on Jul 22, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
This series is best summed up by
Warren Brown’s famous assessment of the 1945 Cubs/Tigers WS matchup when most of baseball’s best players were serving in the military.
“They’re so bad neither team can win.”
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either
by Doggie Stalker on Jul 22, 2011 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
There's two ways to look at the rain...
Old Testament: This game promises to be such a disgrace that it’s bringing God himself to vengeful tears intent on making everyone involved completely miserable…
New Testament: God loves you all and is saving yourself from watching such a terrible game that he’s washing it out.
WWOZ.org - New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Station
Caption
“Carlos Pena attempts without success to brighten the spirits of dejected fans and give them at least some entertainment value for their money by performing Houdini’s famous levitating bat trick during Wednesday’s blowout loss at the hands of the Phillies.”
Yeah, I know there should be an apostrophe in "Vails," but punctuation wasn't an option when I signed up.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Jul 22, 2011 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
U2 show tomorrow night @ TCF Stadium in Minnesota!
Sah-weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Weather? Rain delay? How do things look in Chicago.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Jul 22, 2011 12:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
From everything I can tell
on the radio and WGN Radio’s website, game’s going to be on time. I haven’t seen or heard anything to the contrary, anyhow.
It stopped raining in Iowa City around 8:30 a.m. and is a bright sunny day.
It should clear up for the game.
"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva
It's cloudy in Clear Lake.
Looks like rain again. :(
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
Over/Under on combined errors for the 2 teams this weekend...12.5
With the 1st pick in the 2012 Baseball Amateur Draft, the Chicago Cubs select...
For the weekend?!
Psh. Two games, tops.
Weekend contributor at Windy City Gridiron
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 22, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Bob Brenly just say it's time for the Cubs to make their move?
Bob got ahold of the good stuff, it seems.
With the 1st pick in the 2012 Baseball Amateur Draft, the Chicago Cubs select...
Maybe he meant move to the cellar?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Jul 22, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Big voice
for such a tiny little dude
Soriano's Contract: Approximately one dollar for every pitch in the dirt that he swings at.

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