Gordon Beckham of the Chicago White Sox tags Aramis Ramirez of the Chicago Cubs on July 2, 2011 at Wrigley Field in Chicago, Illinois. The White Sox defeated the Cubs 1-0. (Photo by David Banks/Getty Images)
The Cubs are far out of contention. There's no way these two pitchers, who had about one good season each, can help them get back there. Essentially, you are simply throwing away games by starting pitchers like this.
Casey Coleman is 24 years old (today, in fact, is his 24th birthday). Admittedly, in the starts he's made for the Cubs this year, he's been pretty bad. But at 24, it is possible he could help the team in the future. With them going nowhere this season, isn't it time to try to get young players into the mix to see what they can do? Maybe Coleman won't be any good in a three-month trial and then the Cubs can make other plans for 2012. But maybe he'd get into some kind of rhythm and pitch well for three months -- well then, you might have something for next year and beyond.
The start today by Lopez and Tuesday by Ortiz are wastes of time. Even if somehow the Cubs manage to eke out a win, or either of those men throws well once, what difference does it make? Neither will be part of this team next year.
I just don't get it.
Fukudome RF, Barney 2B, Castro SS, Ramirez 3B, Peña 1B, Byrd CF, Soriano LF, Soto C, Lopez P
Again, with Castro batting third, where he's most likely to fail.
White Sox lineup:
Pierre lf, Ramirez ss, Dunn 1b, Quentin rf, Pierzynski c, Rios cf, Teahen 3b, Beckham 2b, Floyd p
|Today's Starting Pitchers|
|2011 - Rodrigo Lopez||0-2||11||2||0||0||0||0||18.1||27||14||11||3||7||10||5.40||1.85|
|2011 - Gavin Floyd||6-7||16||15||1||0||0||0||101.0||95||49||47||11||27||69||4.19||1.21|
Rodrigo Lopez faced three White Sox hitters in relief on June 21 at the Cell. He got Omar Vizquel to pop up, gave up a double to Carlos Quentin and then intentionally walked Paul Konerko before he was taken out. Before that he had not faced the Sox since 2006; in five career starts against the Sox he has a 10.57 ERA and 2.09 WHIP. Remind me again why this guy is starting, or even on the team?
The Cubs hit Gavin Floyd pretty good on June 20 at the Cell, including home runs from Starlin Castro and Carlos Pena. His last start at Wrigley Field was a lot better than that; on June 13, 2010 he gave up just one run in eight innings, but got outpitched by Ted Lilly in a 1-0 Cubs win. I'll take the 2011 version, please.
Today's game is on CSN Chicago (with Len & Bob) and WGN (with the Sox announcers). Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
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