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Broken Record Continues; Cubs Lose Fourth Straight

Starter Matt Garza of the Chicago Cubs reacts after giving up a three-run home run to David Freese of the St. Louis Cardinals at Busch Stadium on July 29, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

I was thinking about doing one of those do-it-yourself drop-down recaps for Friday night's 9-2 Cubs loss to the Cardinals, but it's Saturday morning and those things actually take somewhat longer to put together than a standard recap like this one.

But one of those is coming. Soon. I feel it. Stay tuned.

Here's another doesn't-make-sense statistic regarding the 2011 Chicago Cubs. Remember when the Cubs traded for Matt Garza and some here wondered whether he'd suffer coming from a decent pitcher's park in Tampa to a better hitter's park, Wrigley Field?

Garza at home in July: four starts, 30 innings, four ER, 1.00 WHIP, 1.20 ERA
Garza on road in July: two starts, 7.2 innings, 12 ER, 2.48 WHIP, 14.09 ERA

Wait, it gets more bizarre:

Garza at home, 2011 season: 11 starts, 73.1 IP, 22 ER, 1.13 WHIP, 2.70 ERA
Garza on road, 2011 season: 9 starts, 48.1 IP, 32 ER, 1.61 WHIP, 5.96 ERA

Now how many of you would have predicted, before the season started, that Garza would be far more effective at Wrigley than on the road this year? No one, I think. Just another bizarre thing about this woeful season.

Star-divide

For the 32nd time this year, the Cubs lost a game in which they had the lead. That includes three of the four losses on this road trip, in two of which they had a lead in the first inning.

That, my friends, is pathetic. You give your starting pitcher a lead on the road before he even throws a pitch and he can't hold it? In two of the three such games, the Cubs starting pitcher coughed up the lead before the first inning was over. I guess we should give Garza some credit, then; the Cubs didn't take the lead until the second inning and he managed to hold on to it until David Freese slammed a long three-run homer in the fourth.

The Cubs also got a couple of runners thrown out on the bases -- Geovany Soto trying to advance to third after that first run scored on a Tyler Colvin sac fly, and then Colvin himself thrown out at the plate in the seventh inning. But Colvin had a hit! His BA is up to .111! Maybe... well, seriously, this is the time to find out whether Colvin has a future with this team. Play him every single day the rest of the year. It's the only way to find out.

Carlos Marmol put the game out of reach in the eighth inning by giving up three runs and getting hit really hard. I'd definitely consider trading him, if not before Sunday, then perhaps in the offseason. There are other pitchers (Andrew Cashner, who might be back in the major leagues by September or Chris Carpenter, to name two) who could take over that role.

I can't wait to hear what Joe Buck and Tim McCarver have to say about the Cubs on the Fox telecast this afternoon. (Please read that sentence with an air of total sarcasm.)

I think I'm going to adopt the Twins as my underdog team of the year. They still have an outside shot at the postseason, six games out of first place, they have fun players to watch, and they always seem prepared and well-organized, even in a year that started as badly as this one did for them. Go Twins!

Finally, I offer congratulations to Albert Pujols on his 2,000th career hit, a double that drove in a run off Marmol. Even in a down year, Pujols, at his current rate, stands only a little more than five seasons away from 3,000 career hits. Wouldn't it be nice to see that milestone achieved in a Cubs uniform? (I can dream, can't I?)

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Bobble Tyler Colvin also says...

I hope I start hitting, but that might make my manager bench me more…..

Two Words: Salty Saltwell

by Unclemike on Jul 30, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had trouble falling asleep yesterday... During the fourth, I thought, here we go again, and finally reached unconsciousness.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 7:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Good? Good!! Good?!? They should be keeping me up...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You said you had trouble falling aslee.

The Cubs helped.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two things I really miss about the Cubs this year: Ron Santo and winning.

They really shouldn’t have a soporific effect on me.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see your argument

about holding a lead of say 3 to 5 runs. Garza had a two run lead, not a huge lead to give up. I was hoping he would have held it a 3-2. Upset he didn’t throw better, but not to upset he gave up a 2 run lead after the Cubs scored there 2 runs in the second.
 Did Colvin run through DeJesus stop sign at third or did he go on his own? I did not see that angle. Either way it was horrible baseball.
I know this team has looked dead for about 2/3rd’s of this season ( if not more) however last night they truly looked like a 100 loss team. They look miserable, and just think two months to go.

by Grockcubs on Jul 30, 2011 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

this team

needs major revamping and this weekend is the time to do it. this offense has been atrocius the last 2 years.bringing the same players back next year wont help.i still love my cubs but how bad is it when you watch everybody loves raymond instead of a cubs cardinals game.and though it wont happen the mgr and coaches need to go this offseason.

by NOMAR on Jul 30, 2011 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Can someone remind me why anyone wanted Ricketts to be the owner of this team?

Sorry, I haven’t seen any value added yet from his ownership.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jul 30, 2011 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Interesting.

Maybe there’s a reason to be optimistic. Then again, being a Cubs fan my whole life, maybe not. :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jul 30, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel its going to get better

not immediately like our 21st century world DEMANDS it but if this years amatuer spending is any clue I think there are better days ahead

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also believe, we have to hope..

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wander...

 If maybe just maybe after Hendry gets all the draft picks signed, Ricketts will relieve him of his duties and give the new gm some time to prepare for the offseason? When’s the deadline for signing picks?

by cubsluver22 on Jul 30, 2011 8:18 AM CDT reply actions  

August 16.

If there are going to be any changes in the executive suite, I doubt we see them until the season is over.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

almost certain he will....

The level of loyalty Tom has for Jim is astounding…..

I bet Omar Minaya is somewhere wondering how Hendry is still employed…

Two Words: Salty Saltwell

by Unclemike on Jul 30, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess when Minaya was fired?

At the end of the season. That’s generally when changes like this are made.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Jim might stay but somebody needs to be held accountable.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

My hero.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jul 30, 2011 8:21 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what he looks like after a Cubs loss.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially after "Marmsy" blows a save by walking three straight batters and giving up a walk-off HR.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jul 30, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone from my bus group got on the bus last night after the game and said this:

“Hey I got an idea. Lets have Carlos Marmol be the bus driver. That way we’ll never find home!”

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO! Good one.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Jul 30, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

lol

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

The top pitcher looks like he's totally lost andwondering what he did to deserve what's happening to him...

…the bottom one looks like someone just told him as of October 1, 2011, he’ll be unemployed.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least Lou was good for a funny quote once in awhile;

“If somebody has a little bit of a tired arm, just let somebody know and we’ll make arrangements and use somebody else,” Piniella said. “I have to know. I can’t just read somebody’s mind. I can look at the stuff, but by the time I look at the stuff, it’s a little late. The ball’s out of the ballpark and the mojito doesn’t taste as good.”

I enjoy this website because it's so interesting to see folks pole vaulting over mouse turds.

by BAMACOLONEL on Jul 30, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

your underdog team is the Twins, Al?

Why not the Bucs? I’m rooting for them to win the division at the very least….

Two Words: Salty Saltwell

by Unclemike on Jul 30, 2011 8:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, them too.

But I’ve always kind of liked the Twins. Besides, they’re in the AL, so I can root for them unfettered.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too. Anybody that beats the White Sox (or Cardinals) is who I'm rooting for.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Besides...

Won’t it be interesting having a chance of playoff games getting snowed out? (Presuming they get past the first round.)

by MN exile on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

True!

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Twins cannot get past the first round...

Heck, they can’t even win a game in the first round.

Kind of like the NL Central.

by cubfanwill on Jul 30, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather be in the first round six of nine years, like the Twins..

… than not make it at all.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with that...

But as you know, it’s pretty upsetting to watch your favorite team consistently lay an egg in the postseason.

by cubfanwill on Jul 30, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

True that.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing I can say about the Cubs in '07 and '08

is that I’m glad that they just got swept out of the playoffs instead of losing in the 5th games. It’s so much harder to swallow those one run (one win) defeats.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh

I think Hendry would have been much less inclined to blow up the ’08 team had we got beaten in the 7th game of the WS

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

We needed to get more left-handed!

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

With you Al

My good friend has been a Twin fan for as long as I have been a Cub fan (41 years) The Twins have grown on me for years. The organization is run extremely well and as Quade would say “Gardy can sure manage”

by Grockcubs on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm officially rooting for a Twins and Bucs Ws.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

and this is a bad thing how?

Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...

by Endrick on Jul 30, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, exactly.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Morneau and Mauer have always been 2 of my favorite non-Cubs players...

I’m officially going for the Twins, Pirates, and Rangers.

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't help myself, I'm officially rooting for the Cubs

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling that the Cubs are going to go 0-10 on this road trip.

And 0-9 in St. Louis this year. Only in bizzarro world do they win today with retread pitcher Rodrigo Lopez on the hill. Sad thing is, I am in St. Louis right now on a 3-day bus trip to see all three Cubs games. I told my friend before I left for the trip the other day: “I gotta go to St. Louis to watch the Cubs get swept”. He said: “That’s always fun.”
Another sad note, yesterday was my fourth Cubs game this year… and I’m 0-4. I have at least three scheduled games left to attend this year. I’ll probably go 0-7 this year.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

0-10

If that happens…100% Ricketts won’t do anything….

Two Words: Salty Saltwell

by Unclemike on Jul 30, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ricketts will say after the 0-10 road trip:

“I’m tired of hearing Cubs fans say they don’t want to come to the ballpark.”

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

so what do you want him to do?

what would do the most good on August 5th that would spark the season?

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

its always followed by either
Ricketts won’t do anything….

or

Ricketts Approves!

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm predicting RoLo surprises us again.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he does...

… trade him. Right away.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd take 25K for him. Too low/high?

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we please get the minor league guys up here soon?

Looks like all the “star” players have quit making genuine efforts.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

The Cubs should trade any player that starts to get good.

Any time a Cubs player gets good and the Cubs decide to keep him for the long run, they go back to mediocre and the Cubs are stuck with them. I say any time a Cubs player gets good (e.g. Geo Soto after 2008, Carlos Marmol after 2010, Marlon Byrd after his All-Star game in 2010) trade them immediately for top prospects while they still can. Just do it like the Pirates did. Load up on prospects and build from there.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

But with that logic

you also trade the prospects when they start getting good. An endless circle of mediocrity.

I’ll settle for a competent GM. As Al mentions, how can the Twins almost always have a competing team and the Cubs with more resources don’t. I don’t understand how anyone other than relatives thinks Jim Hendry deserves any more chances.

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Jul 30, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like whenever the prospects start to get good, they turn out to be not as good as we thought they were going to be.

We’re still pending on Starlin Castro. Also, I bet the Indians make a slight tweak to Kosuke Fukudome’s batting approach. Now Kosuke is going to be the next Hideki Matsui… just kidding.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still on the fence with Starlin Castro becoming a Star.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is nothing wrong with that.

I’m kinda there with you. But he has alot of time to turn into the star we hope he will.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm in favor of selling high on Castro

He’s a bad fielder and impatient at the plate. So he can hit .300? Ryan Theriot used to do that too.

RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010) and Ron Santo (February 25, 1940-December 2, 2010).
If you disagree with me in any way, you are wrong.

by Ace Venom on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...

…the truer answer is:

The Twins Organization. Granted, the manager is a part of that, but he can’t perform miracles if the organization wasn’t drafting well, developing players, putting decent rosters together and the organization having a solid baseball philosophy.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 30, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Even without Morneau, they might pull it off.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

They do have a better organization, true.

Still, if the two teams traded managers, I suspect you’d see at least a significant differential.

by MN exile on Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Twins

Funny you should mention the Twins Al. People here are livid with the way their season has gone. Questioning the heart of their best players and already regretting the 184 mil shelled out to Mauer last year. I agree with you that I want to see them do well, mainly because their division is awful and they seem like the nice guys.

Other side thought. Quade seems a lot like Ron Gardenhire, personality wise. Not saying they are anywhere close to each other managing wise. Gardenhire has silly nicknames for every player. And up until this year (when they were winning) fans and the media found it entertaining. It’s amazing how quickly silly names get annoying when your team is losing.

by TwinCitiesCubsFan on Jul 30, 2011 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Winning

cures all ills.

Cubs 2011 59-103

by wild bill on Jul 30, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't think it could cure the cute little nicknames Q gives everybody.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Personality-wise, maybe.

The difference is, Gardenhire actually appears to know what he’s doing.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the play at home last night where Colvin was called out...

Was he really safe on the replay? Anyone, anyone. I haven’t seen the replay yet. I guess I’ll look it up on mlb.com.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Confusing

Looked like the catcher missed the tag. But then Colvin missed the plate, too. The ump should not have made a call at that point, because nothing had yet happened. But he did make the call—Out. Even if he had not made the call, and Colvin had tried to get back to touch the plate, the catcher would have tagged him.

But back up a moment. Down by 5. In the eighth, I think. Colvin should not have been sent home. Less than two outs. It could have been first and third with one out. Or were there none out? I forget. In any case, the result was just a man on first. VERY bad call on the part of the third base coach. Just no sense of in-game strategy out there.

by andrerogers on Jul 30, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeJesus has been, IMO, a poor 3B coach.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

DeJesus should have sent Byrd in the first inning. Lucky for him he got sacrificed in anyway.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes it was so obvious

Bryd was at third by the time Holliday had the ball, how long can you continue with DeJesus?

by MikeJW on Jul 30, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

End of season.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Hendry can trade him for a bat boy to be named later?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

A top prospect bat boy? A future hall of famer bat boy? If there is such a thing as a bat boy hall of fame.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very poor. AAA material, like most seem to be on the Cubs.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

DeJesus is not good.

Neither are the rest of the staff…

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jul 30, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

..
I can’t wait to hear what Joe Buck and Tim McCarver have to say about the Cubs on the Fox telecast this afternoon.

It’ll be like Statler and Waldorf sitting in the balcony.

by EalyEagle on Jul 30, 2011 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

very proper with the red back ground with the Cardinals and all.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

On Pujols' 2,000th hit...

With all the flash bulbs going off around the ballpark, I could have been mistaken that Mark McGwire was about to hit #62 again.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Brenly's comment

Anybody catch Brenly’s quiet, but disgusted comment last night after Ramirez failed to knock down that drive by Theriot (then at 2 for 42)? The one that put the game away? He said something like “Don’t lose your bat”, which I took to be a pretty strong criticism of Ramirez for failing to keep that ball in the infield. I took that to mean that Ramirez should be sure to get his hits, because we was not going to do much productive with the glove.

It was a tough chance. No doubt about that. But, still. A fielder really must knock that ball down.

by andrerogers on Jul 30, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Ramirez says he wants to stay a Chicago Cub. You know why? I'll tell you why...

because Ramirez knows he can make BS plays like that and not be held accountable by his manager. Ramirez knows if he goes to another team and makes BS plays like that, the manager would bench him immediately.

Make bad plays like that, nobody says a thing, you’re playing in America’s best ballpark 81 times a year… I’d say it’s a win-win.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Iowa is on target here

I also worry how much of a negative influence the Cubs’ lazy regulars with big contracts are on Castro. Starlin can really look and play ‘disinterested’ sometimes.

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by BAMACOLONEL on Jul 30, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Losing is contagious, as is winning of course,

let’s hope he’s not having all this negative or lazy mentality that I assume most have rubbing off on him.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry...in 5 or 6 years...

Castro will be one of those lazy regulars with a big contract, too.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with Iowa and Bama...

Not only that, Rambo didn’t start hitting until the Cubs were basically out of it. Why should he want to go elsewhere when he can give only the effort he wants here and there is no repercussions. By the way, why is Hendry keeping the guys he knows won’t be here next year. What did LeM, Carp etc. do to warrant replacing them with geezers and balsa bats? Opps, I said Hendry so I answered my own question.

by skeezer on Jul 30, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your correct.

I think Ramirez has gotten to comfortable in Chicago.

by Grockcubs on Jul 30, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is such a ridiculous conspiracy theory

Not to mention, rarely will a manager “hold a player accountable” for physical mistakes, otherwise Castro would be benched after every one of his routine throws in the dirt, and you wouldn’t be too happy about that would you? He didn’t make the play, it sucks, but s**t happens sometimes.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is true.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you bench him once, maybe he'll get the message.

sometimes yes crap happens sometimes. But some of these plays are inexcusable and I’m pretty sure we can all think of a handful of inexcusable mistakes from this season and nobody says a thing. I know LaRussa or Ozzie Guillen wouldn’t tolerate the inexcusable plays.

I’m just thinking the line needs to be drawn somewhere. And it seems like there is no line drawn ANYWHERE.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, I heard it, too.

Brenly was biting his tongue trying NOT to say something negative about Rami!

IMO, it looked like Aramis had already mentally checked-out before the game even started!

His at-bat in the 1st inning was absolutely horrible (swinging at balls near his ankles) and then he let’s 3 different shots get by him during the game (which most 3bmen would have at least knocked down, if not fielded)!

If you think you've seen it all...just wait!

by CubFanSince1970 on Jul 30, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 more months....

John Grabow: $4.8 million in 2011.

by rlpete on Jul 30, 2011 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

With Soriano: 3 more years.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unless we get a miracle, highly unlikely, but can still hope.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope Cashner isn't the closer next year.

Because he should be back in the rotation.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe.

Or maybe he’s just better suited to relief. He could be a shutdown closer.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't you give him a shot as a starter first?

Who knows, he may be better suited as a reliever, but why not give him a chance to start before we determine that?

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 10:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think you use Marmol as a trade chip regardless

Marshall could step in until one of the 800,000 relievers or sub-par starters we have in the minor leagues is ready

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

We have tons of BP arms coming up but no true impact SP that are ready.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 1:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Marmol must be traded

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure.

But there are other options to close, you suggested Carpenter yourself. It would be one thing if we had pitching depth, but we lack good starting pitching at both the ML level and the entire upper minors. Maybe if McNutt was having a good season and Whitenack didn’t get hurt you could justify letting Cashner in the pen, but with a terrible lack of SP it would be ridiculous not to give him an opportunity to start. We have no real SP prospects ready and two gaping holes in the rotation, maybe three if Z or Demp is traded.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 11:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd like to have Cashner be a Sp too

but if his arm isn’t up to that many innings like it used, which will be found out, then I say we don’t break him and use his arm for quality relief.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

The only way to know if he can handle starting is if you give him an opportunity.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 12:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, he was a closer in college

no doubt that’s what he’s best suited for.

"Go Cubs!"

by Itchy on Jul 30, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say his role as a Cubs pitcher...

is still up in the air.

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but Andrew Cashner as closer

is at the very bottom of my list of worries at this point.

by Fresca on Jul 30, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's at the top of your list?

Jack Brickhouse: "Hey! Hey!" Harry Caray: "Holy Cow!"
Vince Lloyd: "The Chicago Cubs are on the Air!" Len Kasper: "Oh Baby!!!!"
Ron Santo: "YES!" "All Right! Let's do it!" "Ohhh Nooooo!" "Gee Whiz! Come on!" AND... "This Is The Year!"

by #1 iowan cubs fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

This team...

 I…man, there are no words. I can’t even rant about how bad they are.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 30, 2011 9:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't envy you at all

 On better years, sure, awesome career to have. This year though, you’ve had all the rain, now the extreme heat, and some awful baseball to endure. We’ll give you a free pass on one of these if you’d rather talk about favorite restaurants or movies or anything else really.

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by Craig in South Bend on Jul 30, 2011 9:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously Al

take a night off…

Cubs Lose, We Stinks, Fire Hendry, Fire Quade, Tom Ricketts is Cheap, Discuss…

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard to find anything worth mentioning that's not monotnous and depressing.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about...

a guest “recapper” once a week. They email you the recap for you to proof-read, BUT, not to edit. If it passes, then you post it. I’d like to hear a couple guys/gals here do a recap…not that yours are bad, Al…quite the contrary…just, it’s gotta be hard to do everyday.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I initially read that as

guest “rapper” someone comes in to rap the Cubs wrap-up

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both of these are interesting ideas.

I’ll think about it.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

We should do community recaps.

No, that would suck for us.

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like how Garza wears his uniform. He looks nice.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

See?

Not so hard to say good things.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

It took me about 11 minutes to come up with something.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bellieve he's been one of the lone all-around bright spots for the Cubs.

He’s pitched well for the majority despite his record. He always seems to find a way to stay upbeat. He’s always at the top of the dugout cheering on his teammates. I think this was definately a good pick up by a certain I don’t want to mention because he’s made so many terrible deals and will hopefully be fired after this season..

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

He wears his pants too long.

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on Jul 30, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at Negative Nancy over here, everybody--

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like an evil vampire...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 12:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

... With legs.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Jul 30, 2011 12:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Jul 30, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worst Cubs team I've ever seen.

There is absolutely nobody on this team worth tuning in to watch bat. All that payroll and not one superstar. Damn you Hendry.

by Mapmaker on Jul 30, 2011 9:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Castro is worth watching, most of the time.

That’s about it.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there's that.

Wish he could get on base more.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

For me it's going to be watching whether or not Colvin can turn it around..

along with Campana flying everywhere if he can get on base and seeing if Garza can actually get a W for a good start anytime soon.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking, of running..

I’m watching Hunter Pence trade highlights… does anybody else think he runs really weird?

by Fresca on Jul 30, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have always thought Pence wasn't very athletic

But he made up for it with hard work and enthusiasm.

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by BAMACOLONEL on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

For sure

I watched him a lot when I lived in Houston. Never seen a guy hustle so much.

by Fresca on Jul 30, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

His girlfriend isn't what I'd call, ahem, classy.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those are the fun ones tho

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

but I’d take a whole team of Pence-like players.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

So do I.

Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!

by sue369 on Jul 30, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

20-37 to 100 losses

what’s that saying from 2007 and ’08…

it’s gonna happen

by MikeJW on Jul 30, 2011 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope it does. I'd be upset with a finish similar to last year

which would pretty much say we weren’t THAT bad. Yes we are 100+ losses bad and I want the record to reflect that.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hendry continues to put words together that form the dumbest ideas:

Many of which are found here.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Hendry reads BCB

“When somebody says, ‘Blow the place up and start over and do it right,’ well, OK, does that mean we should get rid of the people who are very young and very good?’’

I enjoy this website because it's so interesting to see folks pole vaulting over mouse turds.

by BAMACOLONEL on Jul 30, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder who those players are.

And what team they play for.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Jul 30, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

other than Castro and Garza

every else should be tradeable. Is it more and more obvious Hendry is coming back? Levine on his radio show said he has seen nothing to indicate Hendry won’t be back and Bruce Miles said this week there is no evidence at all that Hendry won’t back.Miles said no rumors and or sources, nothing to indicate Hendry is even in trouble. That means Quade returns. They are all coming back no matter how many losses.

 Next to the Clippers and Bengals, Ricketts in two years has this looking like the worst franchise in sports.

by MikeJW on Jul 30, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

What did you disagree with in that piece?

I thought Jim was rather on point in that interview.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

the problem this year

is the precipitous drop in dSCRAPPINESS and wGUTS – no franchise can survive major losses in both those departments

by hansman1982 on Jul 30, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

We are sorely lacking in Heart+ as well

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The losing, impatience, laziness, and not caring became contagious IMO.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 2012 roster remains to be seen

But I 100% agreed that you cannot rebuild in Chicago. You’ve gotta “reload” as some might say.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree*

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is ridiculous

this organization desperately needs a rebuild

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it fair to say a little of both??

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

It really doesn't

Instead of arguing this I’ll just refer you to Wreckard’s “Anatomy of a Rebound” piece:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/7/21/2287508/anatomy-of-a-rebound-2006-2007-vs-2011

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get it

Thr Cubs over pay for a couple free agents on the wrong side of their career which will give them one or two winning season where they can get bounced from the playoffs in the first round. it’s a plan tge Cubs front office swears by.

When the foundation of a building is flawed you don’t keep building on top of it hoping it be enough to get you by. No, you tear it down and rebuild. This organization is fundamentally flawed and needs to be rebuilt.

And no, I’m not of the fire everyone, Ricketts sucks camp, it starts with getting a new architect and that is Jim Hendry.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why am I not surprised you support signing Beltran

A soon to be 35-year-old outfielder with multiple knee surgeries. A player who is having a resurgent year that will more likely than not prove to be an outlier rather than a norm considering he wasn’t play even half a season besides this year since 2008.

Yeah, sounds exactly like something you’d support. And I’ll make a bet we don’t sign either of the other two players you mentioned.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beltran 2011 OPS: .890

Beltran career OPS: .855

I’ll make a bet that we sign at least one.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and he had half a season's worth of ABs/PAs in '09...

When he put up a .915 OPS along with a .325/.415/.500.

No worries though…I realize that talent evaluation isn’t a strong point for you.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coming from someone who still thinks Soriano is a power hitter

I take that as a compliment. Again, only you would think a 35-year-old outfielder with an arms length list of major injuries will continue to be productive. And just like your idol Jim Hendry, you like to look at career stats rather than projected value. Great way to evaluate talent when signing players btw, real smart.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Arm length being one...

The knee, which doesn’t seem to be holding him back too much at all.

What’s his projected value, sir, in your opinion?

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The value of a 35-year-old outfielder

with no cartilage in his knee? Not very high.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW: 162 game average for Soriano...

34 HRs.

An ISOslg of .240 as recently as last year, a career SLG of .505, and a ISOslg of .200 this year.

But yes, once again I realize that talent evaluation is not a strong point for you.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano had one good month, the first one

since April he’s hit a grand total of 5 homeruns. Only you would consider that to be a power hitter. I know thus really is all an act btw, no one can really be this stupid.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

beltran wants a 5 year deal

I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.

by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's it going Mr. Boras?

What are you going to be asking for Fielder?

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's been awhile since i facepalmed two people in one day

I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.

by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

…with the right changes, it is not impossible to compete for the division in the next year or two, but they will have to be very smart changes.

With that said, this organization has to stop thinking short term (knee jerk decisions), which is why they have had competing years and absolutely terrible years right next to each other. The organization in general has not had a strong foundation and when a few things don’t go well, they can’t stay competitive like many other strong organizations do, year in and year out. That is a direct result of poor baseball leadership from the top of the baseball food chain (IMO).

The organization needs a breath of fresh air from the top. A sound philosophy that will pass the test of time and a new culture instilled that is much more accountability driven towards one thing; Winning!

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Jul 30, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, great minds

i was in the process of writing something very similar when you posted this.

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well for some reason NYC is getting Tampa Bay Vs Seattle today

I am almost relieved. I do love watching the Rays, though no idea if Fuld will start but unlikely with Jennings up. Really fun team and Maddon is my favorite manager.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Jul 30, 2011 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm getting Cubs-Cardinals.

Lopez vs Loshe…what a treat.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

My problem with Jim Hendry is that

he is too attached to his own players, and never sells high on his own players.

"Marlon (Byrd) has been a fine player here. He’s got another year of his contract. You have basically a bullpen of a lot of guys coming back who are very good. Everybody should certainly be encouraged by the year (reliever) Jeff Samardzija’s had and where he’s going and the year (James) Russell has put together since he went back into the bullpen only.

"Sean Marshall is going to be here. (Carlos) Marmol is going to be here. You always need some kind of rebuilding when you’re in fifth place. You certainly don’t look at it like, ‘Oh, we’re not going to put a (competitive) team out for a few years.

Read more: http://dailyherald.com/article/20110729/sports/707299728/#ixzz1TbUwBrdA


Of course, he points to teams like Cleveland and Pittsburgh as examples of dramatic turnarounds.

Of course, Cleveland and Pittsburgh’s situations are apples to oranges to ours.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Jul 30, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

The concept of buying low and selling high

is completely lost on Hendry

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

While I do agree

I have to point out how he sold high on DeRosa. But absolutely, not even considering trading guys like Marlon Byrd and Jeff Baker is ridiculously stupid.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 11:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chris Archer was one of the players

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Throw....

Choi
Hill
Lilly
Fuld/Chirinos/Archer
Fukudome – Ish.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sold high on DeRosa... got rid of Clement at his peak

Passed on Zito when everybody wanted him and instead bought low on Jason Marquis and Ted Lilly (got rid of Lilly at the right time). Same with Rich Harden when he got the better of the trade with the great Billy Beane, and then again, got rid of Rich Harden at the right time. It’s a victory that he even got anything for DLee last year (as much as I loved him). Got rid of Archer at his peak as the centerpiece of the deal to get Garza. I think he understands buy low, sell high.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

As much as I hate to agree with this..

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait why are Cleveland and Pittsburgh

apples to oranges? Hell, if anything we shouldn’t take as long as they did because the Cubs are the one with money to burn.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Was gonna catch up on some yard work today...

…since it’s somewhat breathable outside for a change, but, I see we (the Cubs) have our best pitcher going today, so, I may watch a bit of it even tho we got the combo of Ren & Stimpy on Fox to listen to.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Someone do a Photoshop of Buck & McCarver as Ren & Stimpy.

I would, but I suck at Photoshop.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Challenge accepted

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Jul 30, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The guys on the MLB Network

said Hendry’s had offers for Byrd, Baker, & Aramis and turned all of them down. Guess thye’ll all too valuable when trying to have a somewhat viable roster on hand when we try and get Pujols or Fielder. Ha! We’ll get neither.

"Go Cubs!"

by Itchy on Jul 30, 2011 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I understand wanting to keep Aramis, there is an argument for keeping Byrd

Not sure why Baker is untouchable though. Depends on the offers for the guys too though.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to say this again, we should keep Ramirez.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

He may be a dog at times, but he’s the best dog we got at the moment.

"Go Cubs!"

by Itchy on Jul 30, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah there's nothing that said he got GOOD offers.

Getting offered a bag of chips for his players is an offer. Doesn’t mean he has to take it…

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really understand Byrd at all.

IMO Jackson will be ready next year, and if Byrd is holding him back from playing everyday, I’ll be mad.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the argument for Byrd

 is the very fact that he could help Jackson’s career so much.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess so.

And the way I look at it, Jackson will end up a LF anyway.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they would do it for Byrd if the Cubs ate his whole contract?
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
NL source says the Braves would have included Mike Minor as part of a deal for Hunter Pence. #trades

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

No way.

That’s really overvaluing Byrd.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can Pence really play center though?

The only thing he does better than Byrd is hit homruns, which he has 6 more of, with like 35% more at bats…

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better arm though correct??

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be very surprised

I love Marlon Byrd… but he’s no Hunter Pence

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I totally forgot that Pence is contrallable for another 2 years, and younger than Byrd...

HOWEVER, even though Pence is a better homerun hitter, I’m not sure how well he can play center, which is what the Braves need.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way they trade one of the best pitching prospects

for an average 33-year-old centerfielder

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by DTJchris on Jul 30, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody catch this white flag from Garza?

“If we can’t get to October, we might as well be spoilers,” Garza said. “Ruin it for some people.”

Mission accomplished Matty. The Cubs pretty much ruined my season with their play this year.

Oh, and to actually be a ‘spoiler’, you have to BEAT the good teams.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Jul 30, 2011 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

So he gets hell when he says they're still in it a few weeks ago

and he gets hell when he says they’re not in it anymore.

We'll all miss you Ron.

by alkappy on Jul 30, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lose Lose Situations all around the Cubs I guess.

"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." — Tommy Lasorda
Fire Q & J

by KS_Cub4Life on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't calling him out per se. I was calling out the entire team for this stinkeroo of a season.

Garza at least get points for recognizing a dead horse when he sees it.

There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. Who says baseball isn't a religion?

by Zeke on Jul 30, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

10 out of 12 streak begins today

with byrd and baker leading the charge

I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.

by jesus christos on Jul 30, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd hope they'd do better than 2 - 10...

but this is the 2011 Cubs…

Oh wait… you meant 10 – 2… My bad

Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...

by Endrick on Jul 30, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we fire the whole team?

No? Then fire this shitty GM and this shitty manager.

by salparadise23 on Jul 30, 2011 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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