Pirates inquire on Pena, but sense Cubs not interested

Really? Are you serious Hendry? Pena is a FA at the end of the year... so there's a very good chance he's not part of the team's future anyway... an we're 22 FRIGGIN GAMES UNDER .500.

Make the damn deal and move on.

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I see Pena at 1B in 2012 for the Cubs

Unless we get value in return, I have no problem with it.

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by timh815 on Jul 30, 2011 4:19 PM CDT reply actions

Do you see Pena in 2012 because...

… you think we’ll try and fail to get Fielder or Pujols? Or because you would rather pay Pena and use the money differential between Pena and Pujols/Fielder at other positions?

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by Phubbies on Jul 30, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I think some of that money could be used to acquire starting pitching.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 30, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

This team needs a middle of a order guy.

Period. Ramirez & Friends will not get it done.

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by Unique on Jul 30, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I think Pena

because Fielder and Pujols will go to better teams.

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by timh815 on Jul 30, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't want to say it's a foregone conclusion that

one of those two will be a Cub, but it’s pretty damn close.

Unless someone pimpsmacks us like the Yankees did with Tex to the Red Sox…that’d be awkward.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 6:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I agreed with this until today

If Pena doesn’t go, which is likely, I think that means that the Cubs want to keep him into the future. Sure, they could trade him and re-sign him next year, but that doesn’t work out often.

Perhaps the deal just wasn’t there for him. If Pittsburgh was only offering what they did for Lee, maybe the Cubs would be better off with a second round draft pick.

by jerry morales rules on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Failure = Cubs.....

by ClarkFan on Aug 1, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions

What were the Pirates offering...

I would hate to give Pena away for nothing.

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by brook on Jul 30, 2011 4:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Well then you're some kind of unambitious

fool. The Cubs are going nowhere this year, and should be happy to take anything they can get for their players.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 6:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

no kiddin, some fans people just dont get it.

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by DC Cubbie on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions

That's the thing

Pitt won’t trade any top prospects and its starting to sound like the cubs want something better than a draft pick that they may get if he leaves

by nkniacc13 on Jul 30, 2011 4:46 PM CDT reply actions

They might not even get a draft pick for Pena

He’s supposedly on the cusp of being a Type B, but it’s really close.

by Outshined_One on Jul 30, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions

They are not going to offer arb. They want fielder.

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by D98 on Jul 31, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions

They could do the handshake deal, and agree for him to decline beforehand

Although I think I heard he wasn’t willing to do that with the Rays last year.

by Dcr18 on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

They could have done that 10 times in the last few years. They refuse to do it.

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by D98 on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Your not likely to get a top prospect for Pena anyway.

And you can always resign the guy after the season anyway, if the Cubs want him this badly. It simply doesn’t make any sense to hold onto him at this point.

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by Unique on Jul 30, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions

You can resign him even if you trade him

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by DC Cubbie on Jul 30, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Hardly ever happens, but I guess it's not impossible.

by Dcr18 on Jul 30, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions

That's what I said.

My second sentence.

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by Unique on Jul 30, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Unless the Pirates offered Locke

or some pitching of similar talent then meh.

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 7:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

if they offer any warm body then do it

he can not be part of the future.

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by DC Cubbie on Jul 30, 2011 7:32 PM CDT reply actions

Just trade him for anything .... he's a damn free agent after this year

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by lexmarklover on Jul 30, 2011 8:12 PM CDT reply actions

A curious book to read (if accurate)

would be on what Jim Hendry has done all month.

“Mike Minor for Marlon Byrd?”
“Not interested”

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by timh815 on Jul 30, 2011 8:20 PM CDT reply actions

Oh that's what happened?

They offered Minor for Byrd and he said no? They wouldn’t offer Minor for Beltran, but they’d offer him for Byrd?

by SenorGato on Jul 30, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions

nah

represnting having fun with the mess.

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by timh815 on Jul 30, 2011 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Just noticed this

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/orioles-looking-to-move-derrek-lee.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+%28MLB+Trade+Rumors%29

Lee to Pirates? A bunch of twitter stuff so who knows.

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by truelinkfence on Jul 30, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions

.. if the Pirates signed Ronnie Woo-Woo, then offered him to the Cubs for Pena and told the Cubs that Chicago still had to pay all of Pena’s salary, I can see why Hendry would say no. Because that’s likely very similar to what happened here.

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by BeerCub on Jul 30, 2011 10:46 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah well Ted Frump from the Daily Rag TWEETED that

Hendry turned down McCutchen and Taillon for him. Wouldn’t even hear of it he said. HA!

by SenorGato on Jul 31, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions

HEARSAY!!!!!

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 1, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions

this

might mean they intend to bring pena back.

by NOMAR on Jul 31, 2011 7:32 AM CDT reply actions

That might mean

That Ricketts us seriously ok with writing off 3 seasons in a row (10-12) waiting for bad contracts to expire, all the while keeping the guy who inked those contracts in charge.

There is absolutely no chance of this team competing with Pena at first. There just isnt enough opportunity for the dramatic improvement necessary at other positions.

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by tomas21 on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I'm thinking it means that no one's offering anything worth talking about.

by SenorGato on Jul 31, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions

You, apparently, do not think ANY prospect is worth talking about.

You’ve talked down every single trade for prospects made today. All of them.

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by Al Yellon on Jul 31, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Phil Rogers just said

That the Cubs felt they weren’t offered anything for Pena that would be better than the draft pick they’d get for him leaving as a FA. The Cubs wanted pitching and all they were offered was outfielders, which they felt they had enough of in the system.

If true, then the decision not to move Pena makes a little more sense.

by Josh Timmers on Jul 31, 2011 11:19 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah, I can't imagine they would have gotten too much more than the Orioles got for Lee.

This choice doesn’t get me that mad. Byrd, on the other hand, infuriates me.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 31, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

they expect to contend next year

keeping Byrd is probably the smart choice if they’re going down that road.

by Bad Midget on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Why?

Byrd can still be traded before next season. This wasn’t the only chance with him.

by jerry morales rules on Jul 31, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

The fact that he is controllable beyond this year raised his value this year and...

I want to see BJax as the starting CF next year. That doesn’t happen as long as Byrd is around.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 31, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions

And that can still happen

if Byrd is traded before next year. While he may have some marginal value by being able to play these two months, he also would have less teams interested in him. There will be a larger market for him in the off season.

I’d like to see Jackson be the CF next year too, but I don’t think that not trading Byrd now has any bearing on that. I could also see an outfield with Byrd and Jackson next year with Soriano out or no replacement for Fukudome.

by jerry morales rules on Aug 1, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions