What to Root for Sunday: Retaliation Against Holliday

While I agree that some retaliation might be in order, please don’t start with the dirty player or he intentionally tried to put Castro on the DL as TimH above mentioned. This is aggressive baseball, it is not dirty. Just because the Cubs are a sleepwalking unit this season doesn’t mean every team is. Holliday knew he needed to break up the DP and he did. Winning teams do that. The Cubs just lose.

The key for me is how he deliberately extended his right foot out to make sure he got Castro’s shin with his spikes. He needs one in his ear. Be interesting to see if the Cubs do it today or wait for another series.

so nothing happens.

Did anyone else find it odd/interesting that Pat Listach found it necessary to go all the way to 2nd to restrain Quade. I’ve seen players restrained by managers and coaches, but not managers by coaches. Can anyone shed a little light on this for me…?

There should be some sanction for a hard play like that if only to make him think twice about doing it again in the future. But what Holliday did was not “dirty” or illegal. His left hand was plainly able to reach second base, which is all that’s required. Of course the purpose of the slide was to hit Castro – that’s what a hard slide is supposed to be. This one achieved its intended effect of preventing a double play. I wish we had more ballplayers who played that way.

But having said that, a nice 4-seamer into the rib cage is just as much a part of baseball as a hard slide. So I’d have no problem with it.

I want him dead! I want his family DEAD! I want his house burned to the ground! I want to go there in the middle of the night and piss on the ashes!

Or dan’s plan will work too, although I’m a little worried about a split-fingered fastball into the ribs? Wouldn’t that have to start like two feet above his head?

I’ve looked at a ton of video frames in my working life, still and moving, as has Al, I suspect. Understanding perspective when we know the geometry of the field is not difficult.

Holliday is past the base, and putting both his foot into Castro’s ankle and his elbow into his abdomen. No way it’s an accident, no way he makes contact with the base unless he’s Elastic Man. It’s deliberate, and an open attempt to injure Castro.

I hate to go all The Dude on this, but “This aggression will not stand, man!” (OK, I didn’t hate it that much.)

So yes, retaliate. Don’t just knock him down, drill him, hard. Don’t go behind his head, don’t go at his knee, just make sure he carries a reminder for a while. Maybe every time he comes up.

That Holliday didn’t try to touch the plate till after he was under Castro. Missed Call by the Ump. Also if Castro thinks it was dirty he has to get into Hollidays face and tell him that was BS.

But he pretty clearly extended his leg top try and trip Castro up WHILE he was in mid-air.

This deadass team will do nothing. Nothing at all.

Great word

Ok five year old rant over, the play was pretty obnoxious, but it seems to be one of those rules that isn’t enforced in the majors, along with actually touching second during double plays and the 12 second rule between pitches. I think the league could come out and say don’t do it again but nothing is going to happen at this point. Throw at him, great, but it won’t stop him in the future

A splitter??? Really?

Not all of those hits occur when you’re at-bat.