Chicago Cubs vs. Washington Nationals Preview, Thursday 8/11, 1:20 CT: Looking To The Future
by Al Yellon on Aug 11, 2011 11:30 AM CDT
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It's three weeks until rosters can be expanded (most likely, we won't see callups until after the minor league season ends on Labor Day, Sept. 5).
A note in this Chicago Tribune article this morning gives me pause:
The Cubs aren't sure yet how many actually will make the trip from the minors, although outfielder Brett Jackson, and infielders DJ LeMahieu and Josh Vitters are possibilities. Apparently, so is Bryan LaHair, the 28-year-old who has been at Iowa for two years.
"What a year he's having. We expect to see him up here and take a look," Quade said. "He has been doing a great job at Triple-A for a number of years. …"
I've written about LaHair before. He's almost 29 years old. Yes, he's mashing Triple-A pitching. To which I say: so what? Is Quade really going to sit Carlos Pena to see LaHair play? He has played some outfield in the past, but only six games there this year. And if you call up Jackson, what's the point of LaHair? Especially since Quade specifically said:
"He has been doing a great job at Triple-A for a number of years."
That should be your first hint, Mike. If a player is at Triple-A for "a number of years", the likelihood that he's going to be a good major league player is pretty small. The organization seems to like doing this -- giving the mashing Triple-A player a "gold watch" of sorts with this "reward". He's really not part of this team's future. More likely, he's the new Brad Snyder. LaHair isn't on the 40-man roster, either. Why waste a 40-man spot with him, when you're likely going to put Jackson on the 40-man anyway?
Call up Jackson? Great. Get him playing time. Call up LeMahieu? Great, too. Let's see what he can do. Call up Vitters? Seems like it's a bit early for that, but at least that would be looking forward, not wasting time with a nearly 29-year-old player who is likely the next Micah Hoffpauir.
Cubs lineup:
Castro ss, Johnson rf, Ramirez 3b, Pena 1b, Byrd cf, Soriano lf, Barney 2b, Hill c, Dempster p
No Colvin, again. Why is he even here?
Nationals lineup:
Ankiel cf, Espinosa ss, Zimmerman 3b, Morse 1b, Werth rf, Nix lf, Desmond ss, Ramos c, Zimmermann p
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Ryan Dempster has not faced the Nats this year, but in two starts against them in 2010 he had a 1.80 ERA and 0.53 WHIP in 15 innings. Naturally, that resulted in a 1-1 W-L record. Current Nats are hitting just .188 (13-for-69) against him with no home runs.
Jordan Zimmermann faced the Cubs in DC on July 4. As has been so common this season, they hit him pretty well (eight hits and four runs in six innings) and the Cubs had the lead when he was removed from the game. Cubs bullpen failure, etc etc etc. Alfonso Soriano and Carlos Pena have homered off him in the past.
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Apparently, it's not just with players!
That should be your first hint, Mike. If a player is at Triple-A for “a number of years”, the likelihood that he’s going to be a good major league player is pretty small. The organization seems to like doing this — giving the mashing Triple-A player a “gold watch” of sorts with this “reward”.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 11, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
Maybe thats why Quade said it...reminds him of himself...
by TJ11 on Aug 11, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He got his reward last year. But Hendry decided to keep him around longer.....
Both should be gone.
I hope the park is empty in September
Has there ever been another MLB club ...
with two guys named Zimmerman?
You know what’s most frustrating about no Colvin? This is a guy who could get into the lineup at three (possibly four) positions! It’s not as if Quade has to choose between Colvin and the team’s best hitter. I understand that Reed’s being rewarded for a good night, but Byrd’s 0-for-7 this series.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Unless we're talking George Steinbrenner ...
owners rarely dictate on-field decisions.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Oh.
Well, I think that’s going to happen this offseason.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
exactly
and trust me, i’m all about the “earn your position” thing. every year at college, regardless if i started at qb the previosu year i went into camp competing. big believer. but theres a time and a place for that. 20 games out and under .500 isnt it. this is an EVALUATION period. you really need to evaluate a veteran? or maybe you should be evaluating Colvin so the front office has a better idea for direction this offseason. can they allocate their resources elsewhere or do they need to find a corner OF. but no, Quade is an idiot instead. cool.
There still isn't an MLB club with two guys named "Zimmerman"
Ryan spells it “Zimmerman”, Jordan spells it “Zimmermann”.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh!
Thanks, JJD.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
No problem
And to actually answer your question, here are all of the “Zimmerman(n)s” who have ever played in the major leagues. None of them have been teammates, except for Ryan and Jordan.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl/player_search.cgi?search=zimmerman
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Little-known fact.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Lou didn't play Colvin either.
He taught Quade everything he knows!
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Trust me...
…Piniella has forgotten more about how to manage a baseball team than Quade will ever know.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Reed got 4 hits last night and should play.....But it should be for Byrd who didnt do anything yesterday.
Colvin should be in RF….
if Quade says its to reward a bench guy who had a good night by giving him another start, why does that no extend to Campana and Colvin….
I recall the game Campana and Colvin BOTH hit HRs they were both out the next day vs a RHP….
Bunch of crap……Worst coaching staff in the ML……
by TJ11 on Aug 11, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
a million rec's
It’s a complete joke, and everyone seems to know it except the Cubs management.
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow
RT @ESPNChiCubs Quade when asked if he could see just putting Colvin in the lineup & keeping him there, “No, he’s going to have to earn it.”
(@ESPNChiCubs) Quade said not going to sit a veteran like Reed for week, especially coming off game like yesterday & his season as a whole
I'd really like to go to the Cubs convention this offseason
and if hendry and Quade are both back, ask good ‘ol Jimbo "remember when you said ’we are in the production business’….how do you justify bringing back a manager who failed to produce?" this is ridiculous.
Remember how last year was the first year in ages that they didn't sell out right away?
They were still showing commercials for it up until the weekend before on television because they still had tickets.
All they’ll do is sit there and spin how they had a lot of injuries and have “nothing but confidence” in their GM and manager. And then next year will be worse.
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
WHAT ABOUT MARLON BYRD??!?!?!?!?!?!??
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 11, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
FUN FACT!!!!
Tyler Colvin has a .450 OPS
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
He had a .267 On Base in Des Moines for Chrissakes
Only reason he’s here is because Hendry/Wilken reached 4 rounds to draft him. He’d be nowhere near the Bigs in any other competent organization.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Well, now.
There was the matter of hitting 20 HRs as a rookie. The Cubs want to see if that was a fluke/if Colvin should factor into 2012 plans.
But if he doesn’t play …
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
And Soriano, apparently.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I mean, Soriano's hitting well right now.
So I get keeping him in the lineup today. But not generally.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Oh, I know.
I agree with you.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
It was a fluke
Take away 6 hot weeks to start last year and he was a below average hitter.
His numbers in college were weak. His numbers all though the system were weak.
The outlier was his hot start last year.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I'm sorry, but I question whether you're in a position to know that with the certainty you attached to your comment.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
They have websites with stats to track such things
It’s really neat!!!
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Ha.
It seemed like you were predicting future performance.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Seems really unlikely at 26
Tyler Colvin will suddenly understand and control the strikezone? We’ve seen tons of other guys who are along the same lines. Wily Mo Pena and Corey Patterson are 2 MUCH more talented examples of guys who never developed into what they could have. Because they had horrendous strike zone judgement.
Every non Cubs organization realizes this. We collect athletes who have to hit .280 to get on base 30% of the time.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I share your frustration about the Cubs and their player development track record.
I’m just saying that, well, the door’s not 100 percent closed on Colvin yet. More like 98 percent.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I just don't think he was ever much of a prospect
I’m just really sick and tired of this regime reaching on marginal guys. Then doing everything they can to try and justify doing it.
-Colvin being in the majors
-Vitters getting pushed through the system with bad production
-Making Samjay and Cashner be starters to justify their Draft/Bonuses
-The general Szczur hype train
This whole house needs a thorough cleaning.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Calm down.
Vitters has had a very solid season and he wasn’t a reach either. And Szczur was a 5th round pick and his hype is legit. You obviously don’t pay too much attention.
I pay plenty of attention Scooter
Szczur was a 5th round pick with a contract that puts him on the 40 man roster after 2011.
Vitters bat would carry him at maybe Shortstop and Catcher. He’s still a mid 700 ops hitter with a glove that probably can’t stick at 3rd. His push through the organization has been completely on the back of his draft status.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
How's he going to earn it if he doesn't play?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
FUN FACT
Players, especially young ones, tend to struggle a little bit WHEN THEY NEVER PLAY!!!!!
What if the Blue Jays only allowed Lowrie to pinch hit against the other team’s closers each day? But they would never do that because they are smart! Look at the Astros—do you see what they did? Their call-ups are playing every day so that they can see what they have for next season while giving them valuable experience.
It is absolutely ridiculous!
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You have to remember the Cubs from the owner on down have no idea what they are doing.......
Worst organization in baseball…..
by TJ11 on Aug 11, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that's the case, why is Colvin even on the major league roster?
Did he “earn” his call-up from Iowa, where he had a .270 OPB?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
This is absolutely ridiculous.
We aren’t in goddamn pennant race. The point of the season at this point is to see what we have in the kids. It’s not to “earn” playing time.
QIAFI but he’s more than that, he’s a stubborn jackass.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 11, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
How is he going to earn it if he never gets the chance to play?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 11, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see them give LaHair a shot
I’d be nice to see the Cubs evaluate someone on actual production as opposed to Salary, Signing Bonus, or draft position for ONCE.
Carlos Pena has no future in Chicago. Maybe we see him dealt during August and LaHair will get a 30 day trial?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Not nec. true.
Pena very well could be the 1B here for the next couple of years. Depending on the Albert and Prince situations, he’s plan C.
Why on earth would we even bother?
If the plan is Carlos Pena then we need to tear down and rebuild. It is typical Cubs to overpay for Pena-esque crap though.
I’M SO READY FOR A COMPETENT FRONT OFFICE.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
We haven't tried Blake DeWitt there yet!
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
this is not a joke
Jake Fox could handle 1st base as plan D,,,,
by cozmotaylor123 on Aug 11, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If LaHair is our starting first baseman in April.
The Cubs will lose 100 games.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
They won their game for Ronnie....Now they can lose every game the rest of the year.
MAYBE that would get Ricketts attention, but I doubt it…
Like most Cubs fans, I unfortunately don't see any changes coming soon.
Ricketts seems satisfied with this garbage every single day. He left Hendry around to sit and do practically nothing at the trade deadline. He talks about putting money into player development, and then he allows us to keep a manager who will not let Colvin or guys like Castillo (when Soto was hurt last year) play. If Jackson even comes up, it will just be more of the same.
This team is absolutely ridiculous. Any other team in MLB would have cleaned house, traded away guys like Byrd and Pena, and started fresh by showing confidence in their young guys. But not the Cubs!
Everyone in MLB has got to be laughing at the Cubs right now! What a joke!!!!
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
agree completely
For of those thinking Fielder and Pujols are coming…..
They will laugh at the Cubs….They know with this bunch there is no chance to win.
I don't think they'll laugh at a Big Jim Chicken Fried NTC Contract and its $300M sweetness!
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Remember the Bulls after the end of the Michael Jordan era?
When they tried to lure the big-time FAs like Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, and Tim Duncan, but came up completely empty because the team was so terrible? I feel like we should be preparing for a repeat of this scenario during the off-season.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Why?
MLB players haven’t shown an aversion to the Cubs in the past, at least not like you are portraying. Hendry is still popular around other team’s player’s. Krause wasn’t.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Of course they like him and the Cubs....
They overpay, offer NTC, and they get to play with no accountability with a minor league manager they can control…
But the REAL stars who want to win now are not going to come.
There's no evidence of that
Emote all you want, but there’s no basis for what you feel.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No
I’ve written that often. I thought Hendry should have been relieved of his duties prior to this season, but once that decision was made, there was nothing to do but support a successful outcome even though cognitively, I didn’t think it could happen.
That didn’t happen – again – and the pressure to fire Hendry should be even stronger.
Quade can’t manage at the MLB level.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Other than Soriano, Andre Dawson, and maybe Moises Alou
How many big-time free agents from other teams have the Cubs ever signed?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not really a fair question
As that belies the continual signing and re-signing of the superstars they have had over the years. Ramirez, Sosa, Lee, Wood, Zambrano.
The only FA they wanted to keep that they ever lost was Maddux and that was early 90’s. I don’t recall many top players that they pursued that they didn’t sign.
Over the course of the last decade, they haven’t been in the position to offer those deals for a variety of reasons, usually because they haven’t had openings for those positions.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair point on re-signing our own players
But Hendry has let potential FAs like Jim Thome, Carlos Beltran, and Rafael Furcal, get away when there were positions available for them.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you hit the nail on the head with the phrase
“No accountability.”
by Mulhollandmania on Aug 11, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
The only guy that the Cubs missed out on trading was Pena
I thought that was a mistake, but all the other guys can still be moved in the off-season when, quite likely, there will be more of a market for them. Perhaps Ricketts told Hendry not to trade anyone because he was going to let the next GM decide on whom to keep.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh
Bringing someone in new mid-season wouldn’t change much. Either Hendry would have his hands tied or the interim guy would.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
So what?
Seriously, what does it matter if these changes are made July 15 or Sept 15? It would have no effect on what we’re seeing on the field this year or next.
It would make you feel better, I’ll give you that, but it has no practical benefits outside benefiting the feelings of portion of the fanbase, a portion that can just as easily be assuaged with changes in September.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It does make a difference with how they are managed.....
Quade is going to waste the rest of the season trying to save his job playing the same people who got him into this situation int he first place.
A new GM may not have helped that. I understand….But maybe a few moves would have forced Quade to play some kids like the Dome SHOULD have…
Do they have to trade Reed for Colvin to play? The jerk would just play DeWitt anyways…
I don't buy that explanation
Much of the time, the things you learn at this time of the season are fool’s gold. Did we learn that Quade could manage after Piniella left?
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
No...I thought they won in spite of him last year and wanted him gone...
I was correct. Hendry was not.
Huh?
That makes zero sense. Who is “they”. Cub mgmt or the players?
by jerry morales rules on Aug 11, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm getting
so, so tired of Quade AND Hendry. Throw in Kenney too. This team and organization is a train wreck.
LaHair is Hoffpauir part Deux. Let LaHair go to Japan and mash the ball there…..I’m sure he’d be a big hit. Bring up Jackson…..he’s the future!
It would be nice to have that live interview with Ricketts on BCB today!!!!!
That guy will never do it anyways….
So, did the Cubs trade Kosuke for a couple marginals minor leaguers, $775K ...
and the opportunity to let Colvin get the fluctuating playing time that served him so well this spring?
I mean, it’s possible that Colvin was going to suck regardless. But why repeat the same thing that they tried (without success) in April-May?
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
We have the same idiotic manager
That’s the constant.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem
by Nunyabidness on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Colvin is here because someone need to loan The Shark a bat and batting gloves.
It is just a screen name.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 11, 2011 12:09 PM CDT reply actions
as much as colvin has sucked this year
not playing him is still stupid
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
Does ANYONE on this board besides myself note that....
Quade doesn’t say a single thing about playing time?
So noted, he he
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Not in that one, but in the Muskat article the implication is pretty clear
unles, you know, you willfully ignore the obvious implications because you like to be overly contrarian in favor of Quade.
by SouthernCub on Aug 11, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Other teams must be thinking....
The Cubs have a great and giant fanbase, a nice ballpark, and plenty of money. If they would just put some good baseball people in charge, from top to bottom, who would make appropriate changes and appropriate line-ups then they could do well in the weak NL Central and maybe even win their first championship in one of these coming years. They’ve got to see the decisions that are being made right now by the Cubs and just sit back and shake their heads (or laugh).
Al, you're on a mission to discount Bryan LaHair...I'm not sure why...I have two words for you...
Casey McGehee.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 11, 2011 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Better name might be Luke Scott
He didn’t really get his shot till 29. While he’s not an all star he’s was a good role player for 3 years. And yes LaHair could me the Hoff part two but it seems like a better bet than pulling random players off the trash bin gving them a shot.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Except Scott only spent 3 years in the minors before his call-up
He just got a late start in pro baseball (age 24). Scott’s progression was actually pretty much standard once he arrived from college.
LaHair’s career trends look more similar to Hoffpauir’s than Scott’s. That doesn’t mean he can’t become like Scott though.
by SouthernCub on Aug 11, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The same Casey McGehee who has a .628 OPS this year?
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If LaHair can fill a roster spot for 400K
And keep Jim Hendry from spending 3/15 to fill that same spot. I’d consider it a success.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I agree with you on that
Better to give that spot to LaHair than, say, Xavier Nady. But it’s even better to give that spot to someone who can actually hit major league pitching.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 11, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
but what about the veteran leadership of the X-Man?
That’s worth 5 mill a year right?
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
for every casey mcgehee
there’s 10 jake foxes
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 11, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
There are 10 Jake Foxes?
People need to start coming up with more creative names for their kids.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Regardless of whether...
you think Colvin will be a successful MLB player in the future (I’m uncertain, but leaning towards the camp of him not), there really isn’t any good reason why he shouldn’t be playing everyday.
I really, really dislike Jim Hendry for giving Quade this job.
It's a happy day when the two radical wings of this site come together!
We can all hate Quade and be united! God Bless America!
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Praise Jehova!!
It is just a screen name.
by Fat Punk Kicker on Aug 11, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW for all those "Play LaHair" folks
This will not happen. Pena is in a contract year and his agent is Scott Boras. Boras would go F-ing nuts if the Cubs robbed Pena of a month worth of playing time where he could pad his stats in order to see if a 29 year old AAAA player can make it in the pros.
Boras is also Prince Fielder’s agent and Hendry has convinced Ricketts that they are only on big bat away from being a contender which means he needs fielder to keep his job which means he needs Boras happy.
Expect Pena to play everyday from here till the season mercifully comes to an end.
by BrewCrew'sPrinceofDarkness on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions
The Cubs need to deal Pena this month
Maybe you can snatch a bullpen arm in the process of doing it? Pena serves NO PURPOSE on this club.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I'm not a "Play LaHair" guy...but I'm also not a "completely ignore and discount any player over 28 at AAA regardless of his performance"...
LaHair might…might be a useful piece for this team for the next 2 years or so…but there is no way to even begin to know if he will be if you keep up the constant drumbeat of “he’s just ‘fill in the blank’ part 2”.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 11, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
LaHair MIGHT be something useful going forward
Carlos Pena however has NO FUTURE with the Cubs. Should be a total no brainer?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Oh...
for the want of a nail…
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 11, 2011 1:03 PM CDT reply actions
Time for terriffic two - Go Cubs
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Time for terriffic two - Go Cubs
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
and that goes double for you.
I spent 90% of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted - George Best
You mean someone actually wants to talk about baseball
instead of bitch? God bless you, eths.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Aug 11, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, Bruce.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
NBF knows more about bitching about us bitching than anyone else here elgato...don't question him.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 11, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got no problem with NBF.
He’s always been pretty decent to me. Anyway, there’s somebody else who bitches FAR more about bitching.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
I'm sitting outside a Portuguese restaurant in Munich, with my GF,
after a good meal, Vino Verde and a nice a summer evening… Why would I want bitch?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Aug 11, 2011 1:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That sounds pretty awesome.
I’m jealous, eths.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
by eths on Aug 11, 2011 1:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
How is talking about certain players not being played
and why that is or how that is dumb not talking about baseball?
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 11, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
And furthermore
in addition to the moratorium on namecalling, I’d love for there to be a moratorium for the nonsensical bitching accusations.
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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 11, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
what happened to bring Campana up?
and not that i’m upset he’s still up but did the cubs drop a pitcher from the 25 man?
Bring your bitching here -
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2011/8/11/2357028/overflow-thread-1-cubs-vs-nationals-thursday
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Wrong thread...sorry.
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
I'd rather see LaHair than Jackson at the end of this year
See if LaHair can handle a pinch hitting role. If not, outright him after the season, and the 40 man spot comes back for someone else. With Jackson, once he’s up, we aren’t gonna take him off the 40 man, and we have a good amount of guys who are going to need protection from rule V next year. Jackson is not one of them. I am definitely excited to see Jackson on the Cubs NEXT year.
by Mulhollandmania on Aug 11, 2011 8:17 PM CDT reply actions
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