Chicago Cubs vs. Atlanta Braves Preview, Saturday 8/13, 6:10 CT: Moving On
by Al Yellon on Aug 13, 2011 4:00 PM CDT
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Per Paul Sullivan, Carlos Zambrano is on the disqualified list:
Cubs place Z on disqualified list. 30 days w/o pay. Can't be w/ teamless than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® 
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There isn't a whole lot more I can say about Z that hasn't already been said by me and others, both here at BCB and elsewhere. However, 30 days gets us to within two weeks of the end of this season -- thus, I doubt that he will pitch for the Cubs again this year. As of early this afternoon the Cubs were in discussions with Z's agent:
General manager Jim Hendry was unavailable for comment. Zambrano's agent, Barry Praver, did not return phone calls. Sources said the two have been in discussions, and that Zambrano has not filed any retirement papers.
If nothing is resolved by this afternoon, the Cubs are likely to place Zambrano on the restricted list indefinitely, as they did last year when Zambrano was sent to anger management counseling following his dugout incident with Derrek Lee on June 25, 2010 at U.S. Cellular Field.
I will, however, reiterate something I wrote earlier today: that is, that the Ricketts family has to make major changes in the way the baseball operation of this team is run. Whether that's in personnel, or procedures, or both, is up to them. But it simply cannot be run in this dysfunctional manner any more. I wrote "blow it up" a couple of weeks ago; that can be interpreted in a number of ways, but change must come. It's time. This dysfunction goes far beyond Carlos Zambrano.
In the meantime, there are still 43 games remaining on the schedule. One of them is tonight.
Cubs lineup:
Castro SS, Barney 2B, Ramirez 3B, Pena 1B, Byrd CF, Soriano LF, Colvin RF, Soto C, Wells P
Braves lineup:
Bourn cf, Prado lf, Freeman 1b, Uggla 2b, Jones 3b, Gonzalez ss, Ross c, Constanza rf, Lowe p
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Randy Wells faced the Braves twice last year. He threw really well in one of the games. And not so much in the other one. Overall, current Braves are hitting .254 (15-for-59) against him with two home runs (one each from Jason Heyward and Alex Gonzalez).
Derek Lowe last pitched against the Cubs on June 3, 2009. He gave them just two runs in seven innings, but the Cubs won anyway. You remember when the Cubs used to do that, right? (Boxscore for amusement value only.)
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WTH happened last night? I just fired up yesterdays archive of the game.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
z started throwing pitches at everything that moved
got ejected, soriano apparently yelled at him in the dugout, z emptied his locker and said he wants to retire
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Soriano yelled at him in the dugout?
I never heard that…where did you see this?
clubhouse, rather
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh wow...
I didn’t know that..thank you for sharing it.
And Soriano was quoted
in one of the papers saying that Z was a big man, but had problems.
"It is history that teaches us to hope" -- R. E. Lee
But Lee wasn't a Cubs fan.
I got money on Z in a fight
Everything I own. Sori couldn’t even run – Z would catch him
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
by Hammer on Aug 13, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This actually makes me respect Soriano a bit more
Though I still hope both players are gone by next season.
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Aug 13, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
starlin would kick his ass without laying a finger on him
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you mean this?
“He’s been doing a lot of things, not once or twice. Gotta think a little bit more,” Alfonso Soriano said on Saturday. “Big man, but mentally he’s weak.”
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
This has got to be the last straw.
It is a tragedy to see such a talented young man blow things so throughly. He needs help and I hope he gets it, but his days as Cub player are surely over.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Hello eths
I certainly hope you’re right. Enough Zambrano drama. If he was a perrenial 16-18 gm winner…maybe I’d put up with more, but he’s not, and I do not.
"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011
Umpire asked Z to depart...
because they were running outta baseballs.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
Colvin!
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 13, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
Finally he gets to start and everyone is caught up in the Zambrano business.
The kid just can’t catch a break haha
Agree with Al...
something has to be done, in my opinion, a new GM, manager, and coaching staff is a start. This dog and pony show must end sooner than later or Wrigley will be empty next year and the diehard Cub’s fans will begin to leave.
they wouldn't be very die hard then would they?
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 13, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Eventually enough is enough
I have been a diehard fan for over 23 years and I have to be honest, these are trying times for the die hard fans to endure. I am not speaking for Al, but you can tell in his posts that he is fed up.
Think how frustrated we are watching this team.
Now imagine having to write about them every night. Exhausting. I’ll bet Al won’t leave them though. Being frustrated is one thing but die hard fans won’t leave. They can complain their faces off but not leave.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on Aug 13, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I agree...
it has to be exhausting for Al, day in and day out to write about it. I wouldn’t be so sure about that with the die hard fans not leaving, case in point, look at the Oakland Raiders with the owner Al Davis. That organization as a whole lost numerous diehard fans because of him.
Personally, I could never pull for another team but I could see a large mass leaving if nothing changes in the next year or two.
I am not really fed up
but I hope a lot of changes are made this off season. But I will still watch all the games and follow as much Cubs news as possible.
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"Are you out of your fucking mind? You think I'm just going to rape you on the off chance that hopefully you're into that shit?" - Louis CK
Nucks Misconduct's Prodigal Son, Chief Curmudgeon, and Chief Hunk.
by Section 312 on Aug 13, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm on the "TOTALLY fed up" side :(
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately...same here
I have been saying for the past 3 years that we are going to make the yearly Wrigley trip only if the Cubs are doing well…needless to say I haven’t been to Chicago in 3 years.
Hi Coolio!
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
hey eths! I think I just heard the Gatorade cooler breathe a sigh of relief!
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I heard it is considering a come back.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
for 30 days?
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This is all quite silly
On MOST teams Zambrano would be admired for having fire and the fact that he is willing to take responsibility for a bad game. But with the Cubs he’s viewed as a “problem” because he hurts their image as “lovable” even if they are losers. The team doesn’t need to suspend Zambrano, they need to go out and try to get other players as passionate as Zambrano. And they need to get rid of the General Manager.
This Cubs Management team couldn’t empty water out of a boot with instructions written on the boot.
by frustratedfan on Aug 13, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He headhunted one of the most respected players in the game because his feelings were hurt...
No one would ever admire that. Even his own teammates were not willing to fight for him.
Not trying to start an argument with you in any way,
but in all earnestness, when did Chipper Jones become one of the most respected players in the game? I’ve seen a lot of posts stating that since last night; do they mean he’s respected by the players, the fans, or both? Cause I know of entire segments of MLB fans who do not like him at all last I checked.
by owllover711 on Aug 13, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
There are segments of MLB fans that don’t like (insert any player’s name.) He is talking about the players.
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 14, 2011 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions
It would sure be nice to have an organization like
The Braves. Refreshing to see how a good organization is run. Everyone seems to know their roles. Here’s hoping Rickett’s finds the golden path!
They should see
If Bobby Cox wants a position in the cubs organization. Maybe the guy between Hendry and Ricketts.
by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 13, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey I know this isn't a popular opinion in these parts..
but get Lopez out of the rotation and call up McNutt and Coleman. You absolutely have nothing to lose.
'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'
For sure!
What do we have to lose? Let’s find out what some of our minor leaguers can do.
Unfortunately, it will not happen...
Quade is too busy playing the veterans hoping to win a few more games so he can keep his job..
Sadly Quade will go to them
further proof he has no business managing
even more depressing...
NO ONE ELSE TO GO TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No need
or real benefit in calling up McNutt. And I’m a fan of his.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Sure there is.
Any experience is a good experience. He doesn’t have that many innings on his arm this year. This team does not need to trout out guys like Lopez, Ortiz or Bush anymore.
'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'
Uh oh..
did he tell you he was going to retire from BCB?
'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'
Hurry!!!
Just Googled “loose cannon”…took me straight to troutfishings profile!!!
"So sad, This Cubbie Thing" Courtesy of E-Man, 6/25/2011
I don't know how to break this to you
but Bush is history. No, not that one. The guy in Iowa, not Texas
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
This needs to be ordered on October 10th
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
moving them out of Chicago
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Image fail
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_3zKhX2-w1M/0.jpg
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
going going
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Randy Quade from Major League 2
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
The only good parts of that movie.
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
It's time for everybody in this organization
to MAN UP. Anyone who starts making excuses, goodbye. I’m tired of all this. Get somebody with some leadership values and let them weed these guys out who are not committed to winning baseball.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 13, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
You are absolutely right.
I will have much more to say about this in tomorrow morning’s recap.
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funny you mentioned this
More snipping between the booth and players Ramirez and Hollandsworth
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
"I wouldn't trade my career for his"
At Hollandsworth has a world series ring, you ass-bag.
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
at least
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
Tom Ricketts should go pay a visit to Rocky Wirtz
Because that is EXACTLY what happened starting almost 4 years ago.
Anyone else here who is a Blackhawks fan too knows exactly what and who I’m talking about formerly of their organization.
There are some strikingly similar (and scary) similarities between the 2005-07 Blackhawks and 2009-11 Cubs.
Just win the next game...!
Yes I do
The job that Rocky did to quickly right a ship that was, in its own way, almost as dysfunctional as the Cubs, should be an example to ANY new owner-not just Ricketts.
First thing he did: hire a new president and give him “God-like powers” to remove the bad elements in the front office. How’d that finally work out? Anybody remember?!!
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
First step was realized June 9, 2010 a night I'll never forget
Then with solid scouting (the Cubs do have that going for them), a hockey-god advisor in Scotty and a great coaching staff, they’re poised to be a threat for years to come.
Tom Ricketts: I BEG YOU TO GO SEE ROCKY WIRTZ !!! PLEASE, FOR THE SANITY OF 20,000,000 CUBS FANS….!!
Just win the next game...!
But Mr. Ricketts already confirmed
his philosophy isn’t to have a baseball guy looking over his baseball guy. Assistants cost money and cause disharmony.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Except the Hawks had finally made some good picks in the draft and had several young
players producing and ready to produce before Rocky took over.
But without the right guys to NURTURE that talent...
…it wasn’t going to happen. Don’t underestimate the job that Q (and Bowman, etc.) did in moulding the young guys. Patrick Kane, in particular, picked up his game several notches under their guidance.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
several decisions came after Rocky took over too
Too numerous to mention here.
But your point is made. The problem with the Cubs is they have no system. No system for the players. If what Sam Feld a few months ago is true its an indictment on the entire organization.
Just win the next game...!
I have thought
of this so many times. The Cubs need to follow the what the Blackhawks did. Clean house from the top down.
I want the Cubs to be contenders every friggin year!
I don't see it happening though
…too stubborn…clueless…cheap, etc.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting that injuries
aren’t the reason for this team’s poor performance? I do believe Mr. Ricketts would like a word with you. And he wants you to bring your checkbook.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Finally Colvin!
Be the kind of woman that when your feet hit the ground each morning the devil says, "OH CRAP, SHE'S UP"!
dlee out with fractured wrist
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
Maybe they'll trade
for LeHair
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
The Pirates are cursed
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He actually broke it on the HBP from Marmol.
'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'
Score predictions anyone?
Bad guys win 6-2 is my prediction..
5-3 Cubs
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I am putting it down, right into my stomach.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Goosh too eye shupose
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Didsh u shay booby?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
A metaphor for 2011?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Sorry, kind of off color
But, I thought a little humor might help on a day like this.
In other news..
once Zambrano left the clubhouse, Tony Campana comes out of hiding after being missing for over a week.
Is there anyone out there who thinks Wood
could ever start again? We’re in the market for quality people to start.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 13, 2011 4:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Could he start...yes
Should he, no way. There is no way he would last a full season as a starter. He is best suited as a 1 inning reliever, setup man.
It went through my mind too.
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 13, 2011 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
start what?
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Nope...not me
Give me 1-2 innings every 2 of 3 games Woody and no blisters, I’m fine.
Just win the next game...!
cleaning crew cometh
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
no he makes $18M over the regular season, 6 mos, paid twice monthly
and that also is computed by each game played in various taxing districts
but the short answer is $3M per mo, or that is 30 days…
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
A nice savings for Tommy Boy.
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
some will go to the lawyers...it has tort written all over it
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Yep...and the union won't allow anything beyond the 30 days so...
…it may actually wind up costing them in the end. Good point.
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
18M divided by 6
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Hair under $3M
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/chicago-cubs_112114177768677294.html
Z=$17.875M
I take it 30 days is 1/6th the season.
Just win the next game...!
Wow, Howard Sudberry had a rough face lift
The front of his face looks ok, but the radial wrinkles coming out of his eyelids are frightening.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
He works for Arlington Park now
He is their Sr. Director of Marketing and Communications – e.g. their main public relations person.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I fear that the Cubs might have handled this improperly, from a legal point of view
I am not a lawyer, or familiar with labor laws, so please dont beat me up if you disagree with this. Obviously the Cubs dont want to pay Z $3 million during his time on the restricted list, and ideally would like to get out of the contract completely. However, I’m not sure that his actions on Friday night were outrageous enough to justify that. Yes, he acted like a buffoon once again. But I think that the Cubs should have waited to see if Z showed up at the park today. If he didn’t, and was AWOL, then they would have a much stronger case for suspending him without pay and trying to terminate the contract. As is, I don’t think Friday’s actions warrant not paying Z.
Theres prolly stuff in his contract that says what he cant do.
Besides, im sure the Cubs have a small army of lawyers who sign off on stuff like this and they prolly talked with mlb first too and they prolly said ok. Im not a lawyer either so im sure a certain poster here who loves telling us hes a lawyer will correct mr in no time. lol
Not only that but they've probably planned ahead
I’d be flabbergasted if the team’s lawyers had not already planned what to do with Z in case of a meltdown after last year’s anger management “process.”
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
good point. Cubs mgmnt is clearly messed up, but legal had to be prepared for this.
and maybe they saw that Zambrano was intending to go to the park today, and perhaps that is what triggered the action that they took
by holy mackeral on Aug 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they did wait...didn't the 30 day thing come out some time today?
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
GOT IT!
:)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If Z had shown up today
the Cubs would have had a real legal battle. Unless formally insisted he was retiring, he could have said it was just a bad moment and please forgive me.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
3 straight years...
Of sending guys home, suspending or putting on DQ list: Bradley, Z, Z….has this ever happened before?? I highly doubt it. Some team will buy low on Z in off-season with Cubs picking up most of tab.I don’t think they’ll eat Sori contract too as he’s supposedly good "team’’ guy.
The hilarious and sad part...
…is that Ricketts sees all of this and still just sits on his hands.
I mean, has there ever been an owner of a major market franchise who seemed MORE in over his head?
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What exactly did you want him to do today
The team suspended Z with all due speed given that they probably had to notify the players union via the team’s player rep. Ricketts isn’t going to say anything publicly to jeopardize the 30-day suspension or make it look like some sort of planned exit strategy, and he’s not going to rip Hendry publicly for giving Z that stupid contract.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about today
I’m talking about a pattern of clueless behavior pretty much since he took over.
No owner in his right mind would have retained a GM like Hendry in the first place. The minute I heard that I had a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Rickettses arent stupid (I think). They know that they need to take action
and they know that people arent going to buy tickets at these prices unless there is a major overhaul. But they arent going to do it in August.
by holy mackeral on Aug 13, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Logic would seem to be in your corner
…but, unfortunately, I haven’t seen a lot of logical behavior from this regime.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
well, the bathrooms are nicer. and $3 beer on Tuesday was a good move
drats, couldnt think of anything else
by holy mackeral on Aug 13, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Rickettsia's?
Sounds like someone is Ticked!
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 14, 2011 3:36 AM CDT up reply actions
one word
ham and cheese on rye with mustard lettuce and tomato, pickle and chips on the side
:)
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like my rye toasted please...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
yum
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I would suspect that major league contracts have some clauses about conduct detrimental to the
Team! With the kind of money these guys make the owners have to protect themselves in some fashion.
Blackhawk 24 Q??
Are you talking about players or management? Pulford and then Tallon were pushed aside….can’t think what players you might be talkin about why not say?
I happen to think they were ready to win even if Bill Wirtz hadn’t died. Only difference would be no home TV cov’g.
No way were they going to win with the old regime in place
Pulford was literally a cancer in the front office…constantly interfering with and overruling coaches and GM’s. He was the first one McD sent to pasture.
Also, I don’t believe we get Q OR Scotty Bowman under the regime-two HUGE pieces of the puzzle.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Leadoff man coming up
I’m looking forward to seeing how they handle this fiasco.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
on now
Len – “probably the last time” Z will pitch for the Cubs. “But it seems like the writing is on the wall…”
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't miss much
Just Len saying Z’s Cubs career is probably over. Let’s hope he’s right.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Now they are showing the video of the Santo statue unveiling
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
God, every time I see Ricketts posing for the tv cameras...
…I want to throw up.
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Did he wear a wooden leg the same way he wore the Harry Carray glasses at that dedication?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I can see Tommy reading this thread and thinking “Damn…that would’ve been great. They all would’ve LOVED me if I’d done something like that.”
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
A month from now, Z will apologize....
…..stating “he let his teammates down” and it won’t happen again. He’ll make a couple more starts before the end of the season.
Because that’s what the Cubs do. Or should I say that’s what they allow Z to do. Every time. Why should this time be any different?
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
Can't argue with your take...unfortunately
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd think 99% of us would like a different outcome at this point of the Z drama...
..and if management does release/trade him I’ll be shocked, but I’m not confident enough in ownership at this point that they’ll do “the right thing”.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Aug 13, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to go to Windy Cs today
but didnt have cash on me. Got steak, potatoes and broccoli at the store instead
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
niceeeeeee....
Im just cooking for one tonight
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Where do you live?
I can be there shortly.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 13, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs To Retain GM Jim Hendry
From mlbtraderumors:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
For what it’s worth.
How would Nightengale know this?
Does he have a relationship with Ricketts? Nothing is written as to why he thinks that. I even went out to his Twitter feed but there was nothing else there either.
I don’t know if this is his speculation or if he has actual info.
by jerry morales rules on Aug 13, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He has the info from Als source who must remain nameless.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
i...i...
i dont.. i…
I personally believe that damaged ligaments and tendons (among other abrasions) aren't the reason for the team playing so poorly relative the rest of Major League Baseball, so accordingly, James Hendry should be relieved of his highly important duties as General Manager of the Chicago Cubs franchise.
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone wake me once this nightmare is over...
Why in the hell would they retain that mouth breathing moron is beyond me…
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
it just gets worse and worse :(
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Now we just need the announcement
that they are bringing back Miles and Theriot and the Trifecta of stupid is in full swing
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
I would rather have Miles, Theriot and Z than Hendry and Quade
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
....at this point
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a toss up for me...
as in toss up my cookies with either idea… lol
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
you're right
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Not remotely surprsing to me
Has Tommy ever given ANY indication that he’d do anything but stay the course.
Plus he’s too cheap to pay two GM salaries at once.
why did Quade say Rodre
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
omg....I misunderstood something on the radio and hit reply instead of cancel....I made a boo boo. please dont green this
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
by cooliogirl47 on Aug 13, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
And this, my friends, is just the beginning
Get ready for year 2 of Mike Quade…and for those of you who actually believe they’re going after Pujols or Fielder, let me introduce you to Brian LeHair.
2012
The year of no accountability
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Is it just me or...
Does it seem like they are re-running the statue thing just so they don’t have to talk about last night?
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
Typical...maybe we can distract them with puppies and rainbows
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
yesterday al tweeted that they were replaying it today
I'm a sad panda.
by jesus christos on Aug 13, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok... was that tweet before or after...
Z when China Syndrome all over the mound?
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
So basically they got lucky something was planned
and it makes WGN look clueless… Nice…
Fire Jim Hendry... out of a cannon...
This game will prolly go 18 innings
and we will be down a player
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Here come some more tweets
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
BCB is part of a larger corporation
I doubt Al has authorization to do so.
It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??
by Invalid User on Aug 13, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
aka Red tape..lol
theyd rather have nasty comments all over than lose head and soulders money.
I love the head but not into shoulders
Just saw the ad for the new show "Ringer" and I have to say that...
…Sarah Michelle Gellar makes me think about things that are in no way related to the Cubs. I should send her a Thank You or something.
Man...now I'm going to picture little C's every time I see her
Thanks for spoiling THAT fantasy!
by bluekoolaide on Aug 13, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
we've been bad....we don't get a game thread tonight?
"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
In about a minute or so
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
If Big Z had a real manager.. this crap wouldn't be happening.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
we
all know big z wont retire so now what?we all know that the cubs will most likely not take him back. so now what? it’does’nt seem right that we should have to pay him 23 mill to go away. dont pay him. put him in the stands selling popcorn or cotton candy. make him work on the ground crew. but dont pay him 23 mill for being an asshole.and he will find a team next year most likely the white sox. who else would take a chance on z besides ozzie.
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