Chicago Cubs vs. Milwaukee Brewers Preview, Sunday 8/28, 1:10 CT: On The Brink
The Cubs have effectively been out of any playoff races this season for several months. We all know that.
But now, they stand on the brink of mathematical elimination: The Cubs' elimination number from the NL Central race is seven, and from the wild card race, it's eight. That means it's theoretically possible for the Cubs to be mathematically eliminated before August is over.
To be mathematically eliminated this early requires two things: your team being bad, and the teams leading the race(s) to be very good. Both conditions exist this year; the Brewers, leading the NL Central, have a shot at the best record in franchise history. The Braves, leading the wild card, could have their best mark since 2004.
The last time a Cubs team was mathematically eliminated before September was in 1966. On August 31, 1966, the Cubs lost to the Reds and the Giants and Pirates, tied for first place, both won, mathematically eliminating the Cubs. Of course, that was a single 10-team league with one winner -- and it wasn't either San Francisco or Pittsburgh. The Dodgers won the NL pennant before being swept by the Orioles in the '66 World Series.
At least we know changes are coming.
Cubs lineup:
Castro SS, Barney 2B, Ramirez 3B, Pena 1B, Colvin RF, Byrd CF, Soriano LF, Hill C, Coleman P
Not surprised to see Koyie Hill in the lineup today -- Geovany Soto is 0-for-his-last-18 with nine strikeouts.
Brewers lineup:
Hart rf, Morgan cf, Braun lf, Fielder 1b, McGehee 3b, Betancourt ss, Hairston 2b, Lucroy c, Greinke p
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Casey Coleman started against the Brewers at Miller Park on September 12, 2010 and threw quite well. But his next start there, on April 10, was pretty mediocre. In short, who knows? Both Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder homered off Coleman in the April game.
Zack Greinke got hit pretty hard by the Cubs on June 16 at Wrigley Field, including a homer by Carlos Pena, though he struck out 10. On July 27 at Miller Park, though, he threw 6.2 shutout innings against the Cubs. Altogether, in 12 innings vs. the Cubs this year, he has struck out 19. More strikeouts seem a more likely outcome today.
Today's game is on CSN Chicago and FSN Wisconsin. Outside Chicago and Milwaukee, you can see this game on TBS. The national announcers will be Ernie Johnson and John Smoltz. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Brewers site Brew Crew Ball. (But be careful over there.)
Today's first pitch thread will be up at 1:10 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings, post them in the fanshot section.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Tony Campana in August
.308/.333/.462/.795
Just sayin’
by John916 on Aug 28, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Any BCBers going to see any games against the Giants?
I am going Tuesday and Wednesday
"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05
by shifafaontheside on Aug 28, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
I'll be visiting SF...
… but instead of watching these sad sacks, I am going to be watching a band called Carbon Leaf play for the third night in a row. The tickets and beer are cheaper… well, at least the tickets, and it is less likely that they will do something that will infuriate me to the point of ruining my vacation.
If you are in town, they are playing at the Independent and I highly recommend them. www.carbonleaf.com
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
I will be there
tuesday and Wednesday. 3rd row bleachers on Tuesday, upper deck for the day game
by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 28, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Soto is really a mystery..
It’ll be interesting to see what management might do with him.
'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'
by Unique on Aug 28, 2011 11:46 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
This series has been so ho-hum.
Could we please go in another mini streak just to keep things watchable?
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mike Quade is thinking "Why did I take this job?"
Or “Time to start filling out resumes.”
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see
Do I want steak or chicken tonight?
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
though soto would be missed...
it might be the best time in the offseason to trade him for some pitching help . he has spent the year healthy and it appears the cubs have seen the best of him .
I would keep Soto. Who are you going to replace him with?
If/when Quade is fired, I doubt that Koyie Hill comes back next year. That leaves Wellington Castillo as a back-up.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate to say it, but I think Coleman is going to get crushed today...
The Brewers are on a roll right now and the whole Cubs team just looks beaten down. I can’t imagine the morale is very good. And Coleman just isn’t very good. I’m sorry, but he’s not. Still, I think I’d rather have him out there than RoLo.
My birthday is in a couple of weeks (September 8th). All I want is a new Cubs manager.
Let's just try to salvage one here in Milwaukee.
The storm has lifted in Boston but the wind just sounded like a train whistle outside. This is the worst rain yet today, and strongest winds I have seen in Vermont in a long time.
Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions
...and my parents just lost power.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you guys are riding out the storm OK
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I'm doing fine.
I still have power here. Looks like the worst will be this afternoon, in the next few hours.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Irene.
According to the radar, the worst of the storm hasn’t even reached my area yet.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We still have a chance, a tiny chance, a very tiny chance, an extremely tiny chance, but it's still a chance...
GO CUBS !!!
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
How did you do this?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Like this (only works in the lower box):
<h2 style=“color: blue; font-size: 96px;”>GO CUBS !!!</h2>
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I knew the h2 coding creates huge letters,
But I’ve never seen that before. I’ll have to remember that one.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You can also do stuff like
W
L
<h2 style=“text-align: center; color: blue; font-size: 700px;”>W</h2>
<h2 style=“background-color: blue; text-align: center; color: white; font-size: 700px;”>L</h2>
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
I'd say "That's too big",
But I know someone would pull a TWSS.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Size matters?
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
it's entirely too big
Especially on iPhone app
by mic on Aug 28, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
700px might be a bit extreme...
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Just looked at it with the app and the mobile site
iCab Browser app with mobile BCB: OK
iPhone SB-Nation: Has problems rendering “Go Cubs” as well as “W” and “L”
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Like this?
<h2 style="color: pink; font-size: 4px;"> squeak
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess I did it wrong
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
you have to close the tag
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
4px is very, very small -> <h2 style="color: pink; font-size: 4px;"> squeak </h2>
squeak
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
Yea I was trying to get it small.
neither the size or color is taking. I even tried using a hex code from Kuler. 4px is probably way too small though.
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Try this again
squeak
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Of all the players on Milwaukee...
…I’m not too sure I wouldn’t take Corey Hart first. You look at him and then compare his contract to Jason Werth’s of the Nationals and all you can say is…“WTF were the Nationals thinking?”
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
JUMP
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

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