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Chicago Cubs vs. Milwaukee Brewers Preview, Sunday 8/28, 1:10 CT: On The Brink

What is this man thinking? Mike Quade of the Chicago Cubs reacts after the Brewers score a run during a game against the Milwaukee Brewers at Miller Park in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. (Photo by Scott Boehm/Getty Images)

The Cubs have effectively been out of any playoff races this season for several months. We all know that.

But now, they stand on the brink of mathematical elimination: The Cubs' elimination number from the NL Central race is seven, and from the wild card race, it's eight. That means it's theoretically possible for the Cubs to be mathematically eliminated before August is over.

To be mathematically eliminated this early requires two things: your team being bad, and the teams leading the race(s) to be very good. Both conditions exist this year; the Brewers, leading the NL Central, have a shot at the best record in franchise history. The Braves, leading the wild card, could have their best mark since 2004.

The last time a Cubs team was mathematically eliminated before September was in 1966. On August 31, 1966, the Cubs lost to the Reds and the Giants and Pirates, tied for first place, both won, mathematically eliminating the Cubs. Of course, that was a single 10-team league with one winner -- and it wasn't either San Francisco or Pittsburgh. The Dodgers won the NL pennant before being swept by the Orioles in the '66 World Series.

At least we know changes are coming.

Cubs lineup:

Castro SS, Barney 2B, Ramirez 3B, Pena 1B, Colvin RF, Byrd CF, Soriano LF, Hill C, Coleman P

Not surprised to see Koyie Hill in the lineup today -- Geovany Soto is 0-for-his-last-18 with nine strikeouts.

Brewers lineup:

Hart rf, Morgan cf, Braun lf, Fielder 1b, McGehee 3b, Betancourt ss, Hairston 2b, Lucroy c, Greinke p

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Casey Coleman
Casey Coleman
Cubs
vs. Zack Greinke
Zack Greinke
Brewers
2-6 W-L 12-5
7.59 ERA 4.22
39 SO 155
32 BB 30
6 HR 16
vs. Mil -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Casey Coleman 2-6 14 11 0 0 0 0 51.0 69 44 43 6 32 39 7.59 1.98


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Zack Greinke 12-5 22 21 0 0 0 0 128.0 119 69 60 16 30 155 4.22 1.16

Casey Coleman started against the Brewers at Miller Park on September 12, 2010 and threw quite well. But his next start there, on April 10, was pretty mediocre. In short, who knows? Both Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder homered off Coleman in the April game.

Zack Greinke got hit pretty hard by the Cubs on June 16 at Wrigley Field, including a homer by Carlos Pena, though he struck out 10. On July 27 at Miller Park, though, he threw 6.2 shutout innings against the Cubs. Altogether, in 12 innings vs. the Cubs this year, he has struck out 19. More strikeouts seem a more likely outcome today.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago and FSN Wisconsin. Outside Chicago and Milwaukee, you can see this game on TBS. The national announcers will be Ernie Johnson and John Smoltz. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

MLB.com Gameday

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Please visit our SB Nation Brewers site Brew Crew Ball. (But be careful over there.)

Today's first pitch thread will be up at 1:10 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 2:15 pm, 3:15 pm and 4 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings, post them in the fanshot section.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Tony Campana in August

.308/.333/.462/.795
Just sayin’

by John916 on Aug 28, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh...

And 5 for 5 in stolen base attempts

by John916 on Aug 28, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Any BCBers going to see any games against the Giants?

I am going Tuesday and Wednesday

"...the name on the front is a lot more important than the name on the back." Ryne Sandberg 7/31/05

by shifafaontheside on Aug 28, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

yup

we will be there all three days.

wccubfan

by wccubfan on Aug 28, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be visiting SF...

… but instead of watching these sad sacks, I am going to be watching a band called Carbon Leaf play for the third night in a row. The tickets and beer are cheaper… well, at least the tickets, and it is less likely that they will do something that will infuriate me to the point of ruining my vacation.

 If you are in town, they are playing at the Independent and I highly recommend them. www.carbonleaf.com

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Aug 28, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will be there

tuesday and Wednesday. 3rd row bleachers on Tuesday, upper deck for the day game

by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 28, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soto is really a mystery..

It’ll be interesting to see what management might do with him.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Aug 28, 2011 11:46 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

This series has been so ho-hum.

Could we please go in another mini streak just to keep things watchable?

We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.

by mrcubsfan on Aug 28, 2011 11:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Or

“It seemed like such a good idea at the time”

by Stan Cox on Aug 28, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quade?Thinking?

in an alternate universe maybe

by wolfcub on Aug 28, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or

“much of this is my fault.”

I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"

by Ross on Aug 28, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's see

Do I want steak or chicken tonight?

I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.

by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

though soto would be missed...

it might be the best time in the offseason to trade him for some pitching help . he has spent the year healthy and it appears the cubs have seen the best of him .

by walterj on Aug 28, 2011 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I would keep Soto. Who are you going to replace him with?

If/when Quade is fired, I doubt that Koyie Hill comes back next year. That leaves Wellington Castillo as a back-up.

by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it, but I think Coleman is going to get crushed today...

The Brewers are on a roll right now and the whole Cubs team just looks beaten down. I can’t imagine the morale is very good. And Coleman just isn’t very good. I’m sorry, but he’s not. Still, I think I’d rather have him out there than RoLo.

My birthday is in a couple of weeks (September 8th). All I want is a new Cubs manager.

by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's just try to salvage one here in Milwaukee.

The storm has lifted in Boston but the wind just sounded like a train whistle outside. This is the worst rain yet today, and strongest winds I have seen in Vermont in a long time.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

...and my parents just lost power.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you guys are riding out the storm OK

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm doing fine.

I still have power here. Looks like the worst will be this afternoon, in the next few hours.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Irene.

According to the radar, the worst of the storm hasn’t even reached my area yet.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We still have a chance, a tiny chance, a very tiny chance, an extremely tiny chance, but it's still a chance...

GO CUBS !!!

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

How did you do this?

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like this (only works in the lower box):

<h2 style=“color: blue; font-size: 96px;”>GO&nbsp;CUBS&nbsp;!!!</h2>

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew the h2 coding creates huge letters,

But I’ve never seen that before. I’ll have to remember that one.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can also do stuff like

W

 
 

L


 
 
<h2 style=“text-align: center; color: blue; font-size: 700px;”>W</h2>
<h2 style=“background-color: blue; text-align: center; color: white; font-size: 700px;”>L</h2>

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say "That's too big",

But I know someone would pull a TWSS.

Minor League Contributing Writer, Athletics Nation.

State high point count: 4/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Size matters?

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's entirely too big

Especially on iPhone app

by mic on Aug 28, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

700px might be a bit extreme...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just looked at it with the app and the mobile site

iCab Browser app with mobile BCB: OK
iPhone SB-Nation: Has problems rendering “Go Cubs” as well as “W” and “L”

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like this?

<h2 style="color: pink; font-size: 4px;"> squeak 

I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.

by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess I did it wrong

I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.

by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have to close the tag

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

4px is very, very small -> <h2 style="color: pink; font-size: 4px;"> squeak </h2>

squeak

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea I was trying to get it small.

neither the size or color is taking. I even tried using a hex code from Kuler. 4px is probably way too small though.

I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.

by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try this again

squeak

I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.

by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of all the players on Milwaukee...

…I’m not too sure I wouldn’t take Corey Hart first. You look at him and then compare his contract to Jason Werth’s of the Nationals and all you can say is…“WTF were the Nationals thinking?”

Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.

by Easy Ed on Aug 28, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

JUMP

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 28, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

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