Mike Quade Ejected For Sixth Time In 2011; Cubs Lose 3-2 To Brewers
by Al Yellon on Aug 28, 2011 4:25 PM CDT
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It appears likely that Mike Quade is going to join Jim Hendry as a former member of Cubs management when this dreary season is over, 29 games from now.
So it seems somehow fitting that Quade is on the way to being remembered as the Cubs manager who was ejected from the most games in a single season. Quade was tossed in the first inning on Sunday after Aramis Ramirez was called out on strikes by home plate umpire Bill Miller. Replays indicated the pitch was pretty far out of the strike zone, but you can't argue balls and strikes like that without being tossed. Give Quade credit for protecting A-Ram from being tossed, too, although that didn't stop Ramirez's 16-game hitting streak from ending when he went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts.
Maybe Quade is trying to get himself ejected from the entire season. Can he take us with him and we can start over fresh with 2012?
Quade is one ejection short of the team record, seven, set by Johnny Evers in 1913 (in a year where the Cubs went 88-65 but finished a distant third). Despite Evers' status as a Cubs hero, he was fired at the end of the year. The mark was tied by Frank Frisch in 1951 -- in only 80 games, because Frisch was fired midyear in that dismal 62-92 season. He never managed again.
Frisch and Evers are both in the Hall of Fame, mostly for their playing careers, although Frisch won over 1100 games in a 16-year managing career. It's pretty safe to say Quade isn't going to Cooperstown, except by buying a ticket. Oh, and there's this:
Q's 6 ejections ties him with Gardenhire for ML lead. Also ties Lou's 4-yr total as Cub mgr.less than a minute ago via txt 
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For the record, the Cubs are 3-3 in games Quade has been excused from by umpires: wins on April 30 vs. the Diamondbacks, June 14 vs. the Brewers and Aug. 3 vs. the Pirates, and losses on July 2 vs. the White Sox, July 30 vs. the Cardinals and Sunday's 3-2 loss to the Brewers.
What can you do? Casey Coleman threw his best game of the season, though that bar wasn't set too high. Seven innings, allowing three runs, is actually decent. If I thought he could keep doing that, maybe he'd be an effective fifth starter next year. His only real mistake was a two-run homer allowed to Corey Hart, who has absolutely crushed Cubs pitching this season: .333/.476/.667 in ten games (33 AB), with three doubles, two home runs, six RBI and nine walks. And that's with a series left at Wrigley Field in September.
In the ninth inning, the Cubs made a run at Brewers closer John Axford, who was facing the Cubs for the third straight day. Tyler Colvin hit a one-out home run -- after Carlos Pena had hit a ball to the warning track. After Marlon Byrd walked on four pitches, Alfonso Soriano hit another ball to the track that was caught at the RF wall by Hart. Reed Johnson, batting for Koyie Hill, hit a sharp grounder that Casey McGehee couldn't handle.
So the Cubs had the tying and lead runs on base; Axford, who had thrown a bucketload of pitches on Saturday night, did not look sharp. Geovany Soto, in a horrendous slump, had the day off but was sent up to bat for Carlos Marmol.
Naturally, he hacked at the first pitch and grounded to McGehee to end the game.
That's the kind of season it's been. No wonder Quade doesn't want to watch.
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A dreary loss, in dreary season... Why couldn't Soriano hit the ball a couple feet higher....
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
There's another cartoon in that sequence.
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The LLWS Championship Game
was so much more exciting then whatever the Cubs have been doing this year. Great finish.
by braziliancubsfan on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions
That poor Japanese kid
He Alex Gonzalez’ed that ball. I feel so bad for him!
my thought exactly
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Did Dusty sit on the top step chewing his toothpick?
I'm going to the 2012 Randy Hundley Fantasy Camp!!! Who's with me?
I noticed
that ESPN even had to point out the error in the crawl. That was uncool – these kids aren’t pros, give them a break.
by sanshokubento on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm already depressed for 2012.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
So how does Instructs work?
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Soto and Byrd do not belong in a 25-man roster. Discuss.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
They're still among the Cubs better players
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
The argument could be made that
Soto=Hill.
Byrd=Johnson.
Ergo, I hate them all.
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
I just can't see a case that has Hill equal to Soto.
Except when Soto is slumping badly like he is right now.
"The cheaper the hood, the gaudier the talk" - Philip Marlowe
by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Aug 28, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Soto = Hill?
That makes no sense whatsoever.
I mean… come on. Really?
I'm beginning to doubt that.
People were saying the same things about Fukudome, but look at this production (other than walks). It was pathetic.
Soto (12 hrs.) and Byrd’s (.295 BA) production is as hollow as Fukudome’s was.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 28, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Soto is having a 2.0 WAR year
for next to nothing. He’s third on the team in WAR. Byrd is 4th on the team in WAR. That argument holds no weight whatsoever.
being 3rd and 4th in almost anything on a shitty team doesn't make you good.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
But if you're 3rd and 4th on the team
you probably deserve a spot on the 25 man roster. Also, Soto is having a pretty awful year and he’s still been worth 2.0 WAR. That’s saying something.
Show me the RBIs
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
...actually I'd love to know if we lead the whole damn League in runners left on base :)
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 29, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
As we're towards the bottom in OBP and middle of the road in the NL for runs scored...
I sincerely doubt it.
also good at
clapping his hands
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Not things that are high on the list of being a good manager.
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okay,
folksy nicknames, then?
Overmanaging a bench.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Yeah, those things are pretty low on the list, too.
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Leaving a pitcher in 3 hitters too long?
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
He's not the only recent Cubs manager to do that.
Carrying on a tradition, I guess.
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its a way of [L]ife
I'm a happy panda.
by jesus christos on Aug 28, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll give Quade credit for at least arguing calls & backing up his players...
But the list of negatives on him far outweigh the positives. I’m sorry, but he has to go.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Sigh.
No.
Once again, confusing the ability to talk glibly about baseball on TV, with being the right guy in the dugout.
I realize Brenly has managed before and has won a World Series (with a lot of help from guys named Johnson and Schilling), but I think this ship has sailed.
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I get a kick outta people who say stuff like...
(with a lot of help from guys named Johnson and Schilling)
So, Sparky Anderson’s Big Red Machine wins are tainted because he had a lot of help from guys named Bench, Perez, Rose, Morgan, etc…?
Or Phil Jackson’s because of guys named Jordan and Pippen…or Shaq and Kobe?
How about John Wooden with Alcindor or Walton?
Of course there’s going to be “stars” on winning teams. They wouldn’t be winning teams if not.
So, Brenly had Johnson and Schilling? He still had to manage. Still had to fill out the line-up. Still has that ring…which speaks volumes and looks good on a resume.
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
by Easy Ed on Aug 28, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And like I've heard Brenly say it before...
He had to make the call to let Schilling and Johnson pitch every fifth day. /brenlysarcasm
All I can say if you want Brenly
is go back and look at Game 6 of the 2001 World Series.
The Diamondbacks hammered Andy Pettite and Jay Witasick. The score was 15-0 after the fourth inning with a decisive game 7 the next day. Randy Johnson is on the mound for the Diamondbacks. So what does Brenly do?
HE LEAVES JOHNSON ON THE MOUND FOR SEVEN INNINGS AND 104 PITCHES!
Yes, Randy Johnson was able to come in to the game in game seven and pitch one inning and a third and get the win. 17 pitches. But if that game had to go into extra innings, Johnson wouldn’t have been available, because Brenly stupidly had him throw 104 pitches the day before. He could have pulled him out after the fourth inning (or even the third inning when it was 12-0) and The Big Unit might have been able to throw three or four innings the next day if necessary.
It was one of the greatest managerial blunders in a World Series game ever, but no one remembers it because the DBacks won anyway. But it tells me all I need to know about Brenly as a manager.
by Josh Timmers on Aug 28, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right.
I suspect if Brenly were hired, many here who want him would be bitching and complaining about his managing within two weeks of Opening Day.
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I found more stuff on that team
Brenly’s primary leadoff hitter that season, and in the World Series, was Tony Womack, a fast little guy with a .307 OBP. The D-Backs were 4th in the league in bunting (Don Baylor’s Cubs were #1.)
by Josh Timmers on Aug 28, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you Al
IF there was a time for BB to manage the Cubs, that ship has (loooong ago) sailed. BB would be the next “BIAFI” in about 6 weeks max.
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How often would someone pull the starter after 3?
Had he done that, and the Yanks battered Schilling the next day, there would have been an uproar about the bullpen having been used unnecessarily the day before.
I’m not saying 7 IP / 104 pitches isn’t debatable, but not pulling him after 3 or 4 is hardly a hugely egregious decision.
Step Two: Develop an organizational plan
by Shanghai Badger on Aug 28, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
AND IT"S THE WORLD SERIES
You may never reach game 6 of the WS again, so you do whatever it takes to win
"Whenever one finds himself in the majority, it is time to step back and reflect," Mark Twain.
by WindisBlowingOut! on Aug 29, 2011 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s a rather unfair comparison, Wooden won a lot of championships with people NOT named alcinder or Walton, Anderson won a championship in Detroit without the Big Red Machine, and although Phil Jackson has always had multiple Hall of Famers he won eleven titles, compared to one for Brenly.
by Aaron Go Bragh on Aug 28, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, having great players doesn't give you an automatic ticket to a championship....especially in baseball.
Brenly definitely had an advantage with Schilling and Johnson in his starting rotation in the playoffs…but in the regular season they only got to start 69 of the 162 games.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
"Only".
We’d take two pitchers who could “only” do that.
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The Reds had more than just the Big Red Machine...
People forget that Cincinnati’s pitching was very good in 1975 and 1976. Gullett, Billingham, Nolan, Eastwick, McElhenny, Darby, etc. They weren’t “great”, but they tend to get overlooked when people discuss those great Reds teams. And, don’t forget, Sparky led the Reds to a World Series in ‘70 and ’72 and lost. I don’t know if an owner would be that patient with a manager today. And, leading up to Game 7 of the ’75 Series, there was a possibility that the Red Sox would beat the Reds. Boston had the lead early in that game, but Cincinnati came back to win it.
There were scouting reports back in the World Series of 2001 which claimed that the Yankees hitters couldn’t hit heat. The Diamondbacks had two guys who could throw heat, Johnson and Schilling. Yes, the Diamondbacks deserve credit for winning the World Series and Brenly also should get credit. But without Johnson and Schilling, Arizona doesn’t win the 2001 World Series. In fact, if Mo Rivera nails down the save in the 9th inning as he did all year, the Diamondbacks don’t win that World Series.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Again?
without Johnson and Schilling, Arizona doesn’t win the 2001 World Series
That line of thought is preposterous.
Without Halladay and Lee, the Phillies don’t win the East this year. Without Lincecum and Cain, the Giants don’t win last year’s World Series. Without Pippen and Jordan…without Ruth and Gehrig…without whoever. Take the 2 biggest stars away from any championship team and it’s a pretty safe bet they aren’t champions.
I’m not saying Brenly is the second coming of Billy Martin, but, Cubs need a PROVEN winner. Baker got the Cubs to within 5 outs (and they choked away the NLCS)…Lou had the Cubs with the best record (then Hendry tried to fix something that wasn’t broken). They need to again, go with a proven major league manager…if they choose to change managers at all.
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
You have an ax to grind with Brenly?
He has a lot of the prerequisite qualities that makes for a decent major league manager. When I saw him manage those years with the d-backs I thought he did a good job and btw, It don’t matter who’s in that starting rotation, they still won a world series.
Guys, hitting is not about muscle. It's simple physics. Calculate the velocity, v, in relation to the trajectory, t, in which g, gravity, of course remains a constant.... It's not complicated. - George Costanza
No thanks to Brenly
See my comment above/
by Josh Timmers on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
But Brenly played the game the right way!
He’s critical of our veterans, and won’t abide players who don’t give 100%! And he’s a proven winner!
If only he was a former Cub then we could endorse him.
GM will choose someone reasonably good.
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
No to Brenley, yes he had that one magical season but even then his managing decisions were questioned. Also, it’s safe to say that 2001 Diamondbacks team is the very definition of a one year wonder. I like him as a commentator so leave him in the booth.
by Aaron Go Bragh on Aug 28, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF....
They won the division the very next year 2002 (98-64) and in 2003 Johnson was hurt almost the whole year and wasn’t very good when he did come back and they were trying to win the West against Superman and the Giants…and they still won 84 games.
By 2004 Schilling was gone, Johnson was still effective…but he was 40 years old…Webb had emerged as a real #2 and their bullpen SUCKED and they had poured so much $ into the pitching contracts that they didn’t have anything in the way of a great position player. But believe what you want to believe.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Brenly the broadcaster
Leave Brenly in the broadcast booth. He may have a World Series ring (I think Quade has a Cracker Jack ring) but Len & Bob are the best (tv) broadcast team for the Cubs since Harry Carey. Broadcasters can greatly enhance or take away from the game, which is why most people lament the postseason games having lame-o Fox broadcasters instead of picking the best broadcasters from the 30 teams or mix & matching commentators from the 2 teams contesting those games.
Carey > Brickhouse … … > Len & Bob, but the duo is better than the Southside duo (Hawk > Len or Bob individually, but Len & Bob as a team > Hawk). Maybe they need to demo Frank Thomas more as the broadcast partner. Stone’s ok, but quite bland.
by ddoubleheader on Aug 28, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I watched a majority of those games those seasons and along with what you said, you couldn’t say that Brenly didn’t try to do the best with what he had, unlike this idiot Quade. You can blame the team for losing because they weren’t that good in ‘04, but not because of Brenly’s managing.
Brenly is a solid manager. People that say that he won because he had so and so are just trying to stir the pot.
Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.
Al, that was the funniest comment you ever made in a game wrap-up.
It’s pretty safe to say Quade isn’t going to Cooperstown, except by buying a ticket.
I must have laughed for half a minute. That’s the laughter of a sad season….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Glad there's some laughter around here.
We could use it.
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Field of Nightmares... or Gremlins in the Outfield
It’s the kind of season where they need to splice “Go Cubs Go!” with that “you’re going the wrong way!” clip from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Hope Quade knows baseball isn’t golf. A lower score/winning percentage isn’t a good thing…
Maybe the Cubs can grow some horizontal ivy patches in the outfield, wherever their players hit the most to in order to get more ground rule doubles from lost balls to give them a greater chance of getting some runs in.
by ddoubleheader on Aug 28, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic
1) Why bring Marmol in for the 8th in a 3-1 game? He needed the work, I guess.
2) Why not pinch run Campana for Byrd in the 9th with in a 1 run game with 1 out?
3) How many times has Q been ejected while walking away from an umpire? He sure must know the magic word or the umps just have no respect for him because he’s not getting his money’s worth. Ramirez the rest of the game wasn’t getting anything close, so all Q managed to do was piss off homeplate blue the rest of the way.
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Responses to the deck chairs.
1) Needed the work.
2) Agreed.
3) You raise an interesting point. There must not be much respect for Quade. He does seem way over his head. At least his managing career has less than 30 games to go.
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Hypothetical question:
What would your lede be if Quade were to return?
"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo
Channeling a famed skater
“Why me?”
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Hypothetical answer:
That’s too awful to contemplate.
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Global Pandemic Results in Death of Everyone but Mike Quade
Manager Expected to Return for Second Year of Contract – Attendance Expected to be Down Again.
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, "Wait, what the hell are you talking about?"
by Ross on Aug 28, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
But then, I wouldn’t be here to write that.
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The magic word
The magic word? Didn’t Quade serve in the minor league system under Bobby Cox once? With as many ejections as he has, he certainly knows the magic word. Maybe he shared it with Quade.
by ddoubleheader on Aug 28, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't that depend
on Hendry’s next job
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
IMO...
…I’m thinking umpires don’t have a lot of respect for Quade and that is why he gets tossed so easily.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Unlike the widespread support
that MQ has received by opposing managers
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Managers...
…are a tight group, they stick together and give “blind” support.
When was the last time you heard a manger say another manager wasn’t doing a good job?
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Not PR Campana annoyed me to no end
I spent the rest of the game stunned from my seat in the 300s. The one reason you have Campana on the roster is to disrupt things with his baserunning. Would the inning have turned out differently if Campana had been on 1st? Maybe not. But perhaps McGehee makes a mess of that last ground ball and they get one last gasp with Castro?
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by Invalid User on Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a silver lining, however bleak.
It is that any semblance of a late season run similar to last year has come and gone, meaning that the new GM will not be tempted to think “Oh, Quade held the team together in tough times. Let’s keep him!”
I’ve got to find consolation where I can get it.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 28, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Good point.
They could still have a good run over the last 28 games. Know what the Cubs’ record was after this many games last year?
That’s right — exactly what it is now, 57-77. They went 18-10.
I don’t see this group doing that.
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Which would result in a 95-loss season.
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90+ losses is a foregone conclusion at this point.
Hopefully we will get to see some of the future in September.
If our new GM
even considers Quade I insist on a sanity exam
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
What happens to our $900K/year batting coach next year?
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
Hopefully, he's joined the long line heading OUT of Wrigley.
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
by Easy Ed on Aug 28, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
no question Rudy will be gone
my gawd if your Ricketts you have to be thinking Hendry has cost me millions and millions of dollars of horrible players (still paying Silva, Zambrano), bad managers and coaches. Ricketts has to pay all of this for 2012 including Hendry himself. So much wasted money it’s just incredible.
...and then he has to pay another GM and manager and coaches....how can he afford players?
I just don’t see how it can be done
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 28, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
that's why this is a long rebuild
and it’s so unlike 2006, this does not get turned in one year. In fact, I wouldn’t mind the nucleur option, Astros model, where you just suck it up for one year, get rid of every bad contract and start with a lot of money for 2013.
I'm in a minority
I don’t think you can blame him for the lack of thought from our hitters. Where the hell have the take signs gone and how many hit and runs have we seen this year. This whole team is out of control and it’s been allowed. That isn’t on the hitting instructor.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
They should fire the whole coaching staff and start from scratch in 2012.
The “hack and attack” approach doesn’t work, hasn’t worked and won’t work.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say give Quade another year, but replace his coaching staff with more experienced veterans and see what he can do.
"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse
by ronsanto10 on Aug 28, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Why would a new GM
want to do that?
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Would Rudy buy in to taking walks or
would he continue to preach see it hit hit….earlier rather than late in the count?
We'll miss you Big Boy. #10 for Hall of Fame.
by mrcubsfan on Aug 28, 2011 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
they'll be able to teach him how to clap more efficiently
I'm a happy panda.
by jesus christos on Aug 28, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Unpossible.
Mikey Qs clapping is top-notch!
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I don't think anyone worth a flip
is going to want to be associated with Quade.
by LT on Aug 28, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Flip Murray
Flip Saunders
Flip Wilson
Your 2012 Cubs coaching staff
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
Flip Wilson ejected from 10th game this season
says “Devil made me do it”
Flip phone
It’s so yesterday.
I don’t want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it.
by cub in louies nest on Aug 28, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
No
on Quade…..do not want him back. Yes on replacing the coaches.
But that’s not all it’s going to take. The Cubs need pitchers BAD and definitely a bat or two. Who they are I have no idea so don’t ask. Haven’t done any research and I don’t get paid to do it. I shall leave that up to the new GM who I hope brings a good manager with him.
That’s all I got for now anyway.
need pitchers BAD?
if it was
need BAD pitchers
in spades
I'm a Cubs fan. The Jaded Bitterness comes as a Standard Feature.
That's ridiculous.
Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Quade could have Earl Weaver as his bench coach and he'd still stink...
With all due respect, Q has to go.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds familiar
How about a “college of coaches”? They could really pass along ages of wisdom to the players. What could possibly go wrong?
by ddoubleheader on Aug 28, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That's like saying you'll keep the Yugo as long as it gets new seat covers.
For those of you who don’t remember the Yugo, it was a piece of crap cheap car that was destined for the junk heap from the moment people drove them off the lost.
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Aug 28, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 29, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions
During the broadcast...Len or Bob were talking about grand slams...
…and that there’s just 2 teams that don’t have one…Cubs and White Sox. Only one team now, so, we still got that going for us yet.
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
I wasn't aware
that the Giants had a home run with even one guy on base. Wow.
by Josh Timmers on Aug 28, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know the Giants had that long streak of solo homers.
But here’s their breakdown:
59 solo HR. 18 with one man on base. Eight with two men on base. Three grand slams.
By comparison, the Cubs have:
70 solo HR. 40 with one man on base. 14 with two men on base. No grand slams.
All numbers through Saturday’s games.
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Dusty's teaching holds!
No clogging those basepaths!
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Aug 28, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Dusty?
Is he managing the Giants again?
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Tyler Colvin is now hitting 217/274/493 since August 2nd...
This gives him a 767 OPS, ranking better than Soto, Castro, Barney, Soriano, and Byrd. He misses Pena by about 15 points. Just saying.
feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 28, 2011 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
So pretty much, every starter minus Ramirez.
feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 28, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
What stands out most to me?
The improvement in on base skill. Not a terribly scientific sample size, but I can dream.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Aug 28, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
His walk percentage is worse than last years
I’m still not sure where this “Colvin can’t take a walk for his life” thing is coming from.
feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 28, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Color me corrected.
I see that you’re right.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Aug 28, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He couldn't take a walk in the minors this year, so I'll give you that.
feet firmly nailed to the floor of the Tyler Colvin bandwagon...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 28, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Colvin's walk rate
As poor as Colvin’s walk rate (6.5%) is, he has the fourth best walk rate (behind Pena, Hill, and Soto) among players currently on the roster.
In case you needed yet another way to show just how terrible this team is.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 29, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're saying our right fielder has a better OPS than our SS, 2B, CF and C??
Unbelievable… that must be the only time this has happened in baseball this year!!
You do realize that a corner outfielder should be one of the top 3 OPSers on a team, correct? Colvin is doing a little bit better as time goes on, and I’m not going to totally give up on him, but he needs to do a lot more than he currently is to make me feel comfortable giving him the starting RF job out of the gate next year.
Of Course, I have no confidence that Coleman can, but...
Quoting Al re: Coleman’s start: (I’m not up to speed on the boxed quoting): “Seven innings, allowing three runs, is actually decent. If I thought he could keep doing that, maybe he’d be an effective fifth starter next year.”
Not to pick nits, but that would definately make Coleman useful next year. Not as a 5th, but as a 3rd or maybe 4th.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Aug 28, 2011 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
I wouldn't mind if he took Wells spot.
I mean, he can’t be much worse than Wells was this year.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 28, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
But he has to do that more than once to show me he can do it consistently.
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Right, which neither of us think he can do.
Coleman just doesn’t have what it takes, I’m afraid. He can do what any almost-but-not-quite good enough talent can and throw the occasional nice game or short stretch of starts, but counting on that sort of player as a long-term solution usually isn’t a good sign.
But hey: I don’t hate Casey. If he figured it all out against the odds, I’d welcome him in the rotation.
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by ForTheLoveOfBiitner on Aug 29, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Colvin is over .150!!!!!!!!!!
Say what you want but he has raised his BA 30 points since coming back.
Of course it could not get much lower….But its still something.
august splits show improvement
.212/.257/.455 .712-OPS
66-AB 9-R 14-H 3-HR 2-3B 3-2B 7-RBI 4-BB 15-K
appears his slugging has provided him more oppty to play in Sept and see if he can recover from the current coaching staff screwing him up so much
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that I am not sure about, I think he needs much better coaching but
IF Beane is here, Colvin will not be…at least for long,
When he does, he hits the ball very hard, very very hard…the question is improving his quantity of hitting the ball at all…then continuing hitting the ball hard.
The splits above show that out of the 14 hits, 8 were extra bases….57% that is enormous,
but it could be fools gold as well,
12% of AB’s resulting in extra base hits is very low….
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I'd dispute that
IF Beane is here, Colvin will not be…at least for long,
Isn’t Beane the guy who signed Jack Cust?
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by NobodySpecial on Aug 28, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Cust, at least, drew a ton of walks.
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he's obviously done things right in the past...
i just dont think this current crop of players is good enough to first pitch swing…
What's up with Quade ?
You have to be an idiot for a manager to get thrown out in the first
inning . Nothing is that important to get yourself tossed that early .
Yes, he has to be.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
well the term QIAFI has been used a lot here this year
so there’s that
by LT on Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
In every internet meme there is a kernel of truth...
and in this case, it’s the entire cob.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If you fire him...
they will win.
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by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Win what?
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
The village idiot of Wrigleyville
I don’t think Quade being an idiot is in doubt.
by ddoubleheader on Aug 28, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
a google search reveals a Webster nomination
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$#&^*NG
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What?
That makes no sense. There is a strategy to timing an ejection?
I agree that Quade should be replaced, but this is silly.
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by Shanghai Badger on Aug 28, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
HIre Bobby Valentine for manager.
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by Nunyabidness on Aug 28, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if the Cubs win probability went up after he was ejected
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Cubs win....what a lucky break!!" ---Harry
Well, ejected = 3-3; not ejected = 54-74
So the available data says, “Yes.”
And if he had been ejected every game, perhaps the Cubs would be a .500 team…..
Even the gods are laughing at that
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
Hate to say it
But Cubs fans, I am guessing that you will have to look at pretty much the same team next year. Despite firing Hendry, and the probability that a new GM will dismiss Quade and the rest of our coaching staff, it doesn’t look like there will be much change this offseason.
Pena and Byrd (hey, the Indians are looking for more outfielders!) should have been traded in July, or placed on waivers and given away in August. The goal should have been to get rid of as much of this team as possible so that the kids could get a chance to play (look at what the Astros are doing). Brett Jackson should have been up for most of this month playing CF every day. But for some reason, we are holding onto almost every portion of this horrendous team.
It looks like the Cubs want Pena next year instead of going after Fielder or Pujols, and they aren’t giving LaHair a chance to show what he can do (remember, none of these games matter!). Barney and Castro will be back, Ramirez will probably be back since we have no alternative for 3B and the free agent crop is thin there, Soriano be here forever, and our management seems to love Byrd. Hopefully Colvin will get another shot to prove that his rookie season wasn’t a fluke as well. Soto probably will be here as well, unless we find someone to take him in a trade or non-tender him. Hopefully Clevenger or Castillo will win the back-up (or starting) job in spring training.
Other than that, Dempster would be hard-pressed to find someone else to pay him more than $14 million so he’s back, Wells will be back, Garza will be back, and then the fourth and fifth spots will be probably filled by Cashner (when he’s healthy) and Coleman. I don’t want this to happen, but I don’t believe that they will go after guys like CJ Wilson (like they should).
So get used to it, Cubs fans. The only thing we can hope for is that one wrong is righted and Sandberg comes back to where he belongs. Then maybe things won’t be as bad next year but I doubt that we will contend.
by TheGrinch13 on Aug 28, 2011 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
WE'RE A MAJOR MARKET TEAM...
WE’RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WHAT YOU’VE PROPOSED.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
What is wrong with what he said?
Unless the new GM really changes things and the Cubs swallow some contracts, we will look almost the same next year.
Hopefully with better coaches
I agree with this, I said we need to go nuclear like the Astros
get rid of just about everybody, two years of losing with these veterans is enough. Byrd, Pena , Johnson, Lopez, Ortiz and Baker needed to go for sure. Any GM could have done that. Just move them, they are not part of the future. By the way, the Astros the last two weeks have actually played pretty good baseball by playing the kids.
I agree with this as well..Yet the same players who got us to this point are going to be starting in Sept.
Bryd and Soriano should not start more than once a week for the rest of the season.
That may even help Soriano
His play the last two years has made it pretty clear his cap is about 120 games/year – he is getting old and his legs are bad. But the managers keep writing his name in the lineup every day…..
Hopefully after we get swept in SF
Quade will have given up hope of keeping making the playoffs, keeping his job, and endearing himself to the vets.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
That's a pessimistic view of looking at it. I think and hope 2012 will be better.
It all starts at the top, though. New GM. New manager. New team. New attitude. I’m thinking that Ricketts is saying to himself, if he hasn’t said it to other people, “This is never going to happen again under my watch.”
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cubs who thought those were good ideas going forward
are not the Cubs who will be making those decisions. I can’t imagine a smart GM making those same ill informed choices without Hendry’s input. That also leaves me with some hope moving forward. That’s why the next GM can’t have any association with the Cubs. We need a clean sweep.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
I was just about to rec'd this...
…then you had to ruin it with the Sandberg thing.
Good job, Tom...now on to the manager problem.
IF Sandberg would have managed this team to this record +/- a few wins...
i’d probably still be asking for a new manager. and i dont want to do that to Sandberg.
REALLY? How many games over .500 do you honestly think this roster should be in 2011?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
are you asking me?
I dont think Sandberg could have done any better than Quade with these guys. maybe a few wins. i think at best this team, same situations and injured players with Sandberg at the helm would be 19 games under.
by epsilon on Aug 29, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK...then on what grounds would you be asking for a new manager?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Quade led these guys to 23.5 games under .500 and i want him gone.
if Sandberg led these guys to a 23.5 games under i would want him gone.
Quade hasn't "led" anything....
and most of the arguments people have made pro-Sandberg aren’t made from the position that he would have gotten this 2011 team to do a whole lot better in the Win column either but he would have probably done infinitely better at quelling the comedic tragedy of their losses. I’m not sure who you would want at the helm of this clusterf*ck if you agree that they’re not much better than 19 games under all things being equal. No manager is going to automatically make a 5-10 game difference in wins.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 29, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent post summarizing the current thinking of the GM we haven't hired yet
I have to say, I’m sick and tired of this GM we haven’t hired yet. What is he thinking, keeping those our kids in the minors not letting them play in the majors!?
And how is it that he STILL hasn’t reached out to Sandberg to manage the team? As far as we know, the GM we haven’t hired yet still hasn’t even called Sandberg to gauge his interest of even ask him for his advice on playing the game the right way.
Most damning of all – is the failure of our future GM to trade off Pena, who almost certainly would have fetched at least a marginal single-A pitcher, and Marlon Byrd, who we really don’t need next year! I mean, yes, Byrd will have almost the same trade value in the off season he does now, but the GM we haven’t hired yet really should have tried to make a splash by dealing him at the deadline and letting Jackson come up and man center field even though he’d only been in AAA for 2 weeks at that point.
I’m going to be the first one to say it: we really need to FIRE this GM we haven’t hired yet. It’s ridiculous that he isn’t doing anything to help the team, and we really need to bring in fresh blood.
by Wreckard on Aug 29, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
I agree with Wreckard!!!!
Playing the vets is the best thing we can do in Sept! They have earned their starts!!!
TJ11 is like an STD
He “subsides” but doesn’t actually leave us… :]
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Haha! But
NO. Cubs have very, very few pleasant 2011 memories…
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Comparing the Cubs to a STD is a pretty good anology
Must of the time it is bad. Occasionally and rarely it moves on only to return with a vengence.
I dunno
comment is a bit puzzling… did you leave???
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Heehee
Gotta run buddy…duty calls. No Cubs for me till (at least) next weekend. The 915 starts are KILLER. Seeya!
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no, the Hendry firing brought out this logical-rational TJ...
and then poor playing continued and somehow you’ve forgotten that they havent hired a GM yet, and suddenly all things are downward spiraling again…that guy is back. i miss logical/rational TJ.
Ahhh...
the post is now “de-puzzled”. Later all. (TJ11 “logical/rational”? Jeffstorm protests on grounds of the improbability of that statement!) :]
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The fact that Quade and the coaches are still here makes me nervous....
I know they are likely gone but this is the Cubs and they have done some really stupid things.
I have some hope that Ricketts is sick of being laughed at and will finally make the moves that need to be made to compete again.
The new GM will make the decision about Quade.
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All of you....
How much does Pena, Byrd, Soriano, Soto play in the last month?
Do they get most of the starts or would you rather see some kids play?
Remember these games have been meaningless since about May 1st…
I really liked Wreckards take on
the non-existant GMs moves!!!
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If only we had someplace where these kids could play.
If I was in charge, I’d set up a second team that the kids could play on where we could see if they were any good or not. Then we wouldn’t have to play them in the majors to find out if they were worth our time.
I mean, this other team doesn’t even have to be in Chicago – maybe just someplace near by. Like Iowa or something.
What should we call this? I guess MLB stands for “Major League”… so why don’t we call my Iowa team… Hell, I don’t know. Insignificant league baseabll? Secondary League?
Someone smarter than me should find a name for it.
by Wreckard on Aug 29, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So your answer is MORE Byrd and Soriano....figured!!!!
You will be sad to see quade go since you think the same.
Just quit now. You're not ahead, but at least you're still visible somewhere in Wreckard's rearview mirror.
by Orval Overall on Aug 29, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think...
Lahair needs a shot. Beef, meh, ok. I want to see Bjax up, but if it screws with his 40 man roster/minor league status, not really worth it. I cant think of anyone else who is having so phenomenal a year that he deserves to play in the Major leagues.
Three starts a week each
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by Invalid User on Aug 29, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
A telling quote on benching veterans by Neil Huntington
Huntington said Ludwick and Derrek Lee (fractured wrist) will get ample playing time when they return from the DL, even though the Pirates have fallen out of the NL Central race. Showing the two veterans respect down the stretch could have implications when the Pirates shop the free-agent market in the future. “How you treat players is a recruiting piece,” Huntington said.
From: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/pirates/s_753997.html#ixzz1WSO3quRD
Or yeah, we could bench all of our veterans to play a bunch of marginal prospects because for some reason we can’t evaluate them in the minors.
You didn't read this part, then.
"How you treat players is a recruiting piece," Huntington said.
Exactly.
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Open Question for anyone to answer
Anyone that you’re looking forward to seeing get some work when the rosters expand to 40 this week?
Mike Quade....
I’d like to see him get some work, with another baseball team.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see him coaching with another team.
I’m surprised that a guy with as much experience as Quade has failed at the big-league level. I think part of this is the fact that he never played at that level. Now, some managers have been great who never played in the majors. But it is a different time now and I think that guys now have more respect for a manager who’s been through the mill as it were. Guys who have played at the big-league level and especially those who have succeeded.
by jeffmills1972 on Aug 28, 2011 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I think...
…its because some guys just weren’t cut out to be managers and Quade is the poster boy for this.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Dolis, Flaherty, Carpenter, and Beliveau maybe?
And of course BJax but for some reason I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
Of those you mentioned
… you might see Carpenter.
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Our 40 man roster is loaded
with non prospects. Will Bush make changes to bring guys not on the list but are actually prospects. Then, if they are brought up, will we see them play or sit like Quade did to Castillo and others last year.
Al, it might be interesting to clarify what Sept callups does to their arbitration time.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
I'd think that 40-man roster will have a big cleanout after the new GM is hired.
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You don't need Ortiz or Hill after the Iowa season ends
That’s two 40-man spots right there.
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by Invalid User on Aug 29, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
There are 37 players currently on the 40-man roster.
When Cashner is activated — since he is currently on the 60-day DL — that will be 38.
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What is causing me so much angst lately...
is the bad situational hitting by many of the players.
These guys have to stop swinging at the first pitch! There is no strategy at all to swinging at that first pitch (other than it might be the best pitch you see). A far better strategy is to take a couple of pitches to see what the pitcher has got that day, and work the count to get a good pitch to hit and to eventually wear down the opposing pitcher. Plus, I think walks help to demoralize the other team a bit—which could be the edge you need to win a close game sometimes.
Byrd is the main culprit and it seems to be rubbing off on the other players.
The Cubs have so much work to do this off-season, it’s really sad.
If you think you've seen it all...just wait!
by CubFanSince1970 on Aug 28, 2011 7:25 PM CDT reply actions
The players aren't getting paid by the hour.
They have better things to do, especially on getaway day.
If it wasn't for the injuries, we'd be printing WS tickets right now.
BTW the above caption for the picture was the ump yelling at Ramirez
“WHEN YOUR TEAM GETS A MAJOR LEAGUE MANAGER HAVE HIM COME OUT AND QUESTION BALLS AND STRIKES!”
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A friend once told me: "I don't buy the idea that a team learns anything from a loss, the only thing they learn is how to lose games."---Knight
Six too many.
Especially in a lost season.
P.S.: Comment titles, please.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 28, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Exercise in futility
"We played some good teams. Atlanta’s pretty good. We all know about Milwaukee, especially here, they play extremely well. There’s nothing we can do about it." says Ramirez.
The problem is every team but one they play are ‘good teams’ and they can’t play the Astros every game for the rest of the season.
Sometimes I wonder if Quade just gets ejected to make it look like he cares. Lose 2 games to the Brewers, get tossed in the 1st inning of the 3rd game to disavow a 3rd loss and avoid getting blame for the full sweep, just 2/3rds of the sweep.
Considering that the Cubs are only 6-6 against Houston this year
It might not make too much of a difference even if we did play them every game for the rest of the season.
by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 29, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
...
The Chicago Cubs: “There’s nothing we can do about it.”
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 28, 2011 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
But there is something that the fans can do
Not going to the games and not watching them on TV. We won’t be missing much.
Well
I’ve actually done that and quit actively watching this group of clowns around mid-May. I catch and inning here or there by accident but otherwise, there has been nothing to see here. And while being somewhat sarcastic since the possibility of this team turning things around mid-season was virtually impossible….I’m pretty sure my absence hasn’t helped nor hindered the organization one iota. Way more than apathy is needed to make this organization anything but futile…and the answers currently do not lie in the farm system.
Just curious...I know booing is seen as counter-productive
but Al would you ever consider wearing a paper bag over your head like the old Cleveland Browns fans?
ZOMBIES ARE COMING!
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by dtpollitt n SWL on Aug 29, 2011 12:17 AM CDT reply actions
Two Ejections to go for Quade to set the club record
Go for it. Personal goals are important in life.
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50 years from now...
… it’ll be about the only reason to remember his managerial tenure.
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50 years from now...
…people will look back and wonder how a spunky, ranging lunatic, who holds the all time ejection within a season record, could have been so uninspiring for his players.
If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.
50 years from now
Baseball will be played with jetpacks and robot umpires.
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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 29, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
OT...I just got Moneyball to read over the off season....(I think you were the one who recommended it)
well I opened it up late last night to take a peek and I couldn’t put it down. This is really going to be the first behind the scenes book of baseball management I have ever read.
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh. I see.
You’re not waiting for Mikey Qs memoirs then? (“How I Screwed da Pooch and Saved Rynos Career at the Same Time…by Mikey Q”)
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Sweet
Lewis is great at describing interesting business problems and the personal motivations behind his characters.
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by RiskyBusiness on Aug 29, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
does Lewis take dramatic liberties with this book....can I "hang on every word" he says?
…cause I know I will :)
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 29, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
he tells good stories
So there could be some dramatic liberty. But it’s the big points that he drives homes that are the key.
"Just shut up and play" - Matt Garza
by RiskyBusiness on Aug 29, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
ok, cool. and thanks again
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by cooliogirl47 on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
The movie should be really good too.
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by jameslcrockett on Aug 29, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm very surprised the Cubs' single-season manager ejection record ISN'T held by
Leo “The Lip” Durocher.
Leo’s the one on the right.
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As this long, sad season wears on
I’m taking some hope that the off-season will return some hope to Cubs Fans. I (sadly) don’t expect a great deal of improvement in 2012, but I look forward to that most elusive of feelings in 2011…hope. With Hendry gone (and hopefully Mikey and Rudy to follow), I think we’ve taken a step in the right direction.
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You would think it would be hopefull
BUT they may have to eat some contracts to bring real change to this team.
If we do not
we’re likely lookin at same-old-same-old, till at least 2013… I think the brass must take extraordinary steps to solve an extraordinary problem.
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:: Can't help it...::
//Pictures Tommy R. in Harry-oversized-glasses//
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thats a lot of cash to chew on.
maybe the new Gm is a miracle worker. I hope he/she is. however, i think before kool-aid or ledge jumping commences we need to be logical as fans. Next year i’m going to be quietly optimistic and not expect to much. I’ll accept effort from the new GM to move some of the culprits of 2011. I wont fault him if he can’t actually move those albatrosses.
And I'll be
quietly realistic (holding cautiously optimistic in reserve). :] Until later. Seeya Eps
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the new GM
will have a hard time working 2012 miracles, too much dead weight. If he can at least start adding some good pieces for 2013 and shedding in the right places I’ll be happy.
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- Eric Hosmer redefines the Baltimore chop with infield double (Video)
- College player makes impossible over the fence catch to save tournament game (Video)
- Security!: Camden Yards guard collides with Royals’ Mike Moustakas
- The Juice: Nelson Cruz matches career high eight RBIs, Pujols stays hot in Seattle
- Benches clear at Fenway as Red Sox-Rays rivalry heats up
