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Chicago Cubs vs. Pittsburgh Pirates Preview, Thursday 8/4, 6:05 CT: This Should Have Been A Day Game

Starlin Castro of the Chicago Cubs rounds second base after hitting a solo home run against the Pittsburgh Pirates during the game on August 3, 2011 at PNC Park in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

Why is this game being played at night? The Cubs have a day game in Chicago Friday, and generally, when a team has that situation -- getaway day with a day game the next day -- the hosting team has an afternoon contest.

I know that if the flight between the cities is short -- less than two hours, IIRC -- the hosting team can do this. But I'm surprised the Cubs didn't ask for this game to be played during the day. The Reds, who have today off, are likely already in Chicago enjoying the nice day here. On the other hand, maybe they'll stay out too late tonight and not be ready for tomorrow.

The Cubs should be allowed, two or three times a year if needed, to play home games on Friday nights. This is one of two such situations in 2011 (the other: a Sept. 15 night game in Cincinnati, a Sept. 16 day game at home vs. the Astros). There generally aren't more than two or three occasions per year when this situation comes up. There's no reason the neighborhood, the city and the Cubs shouldn't be able to make that agreement.

In the meantime, the Cubs go for their first four-game sweep in Pittsburgh since June 5-7, 1959; on June 7 the Cubs took both ends of a doubleheader to complete the sweep. The 1959 Cubs, led by MVP Ernie Banks, were a decent team that stayed over .500, and within five games of first place, until late July, then collapsed. If that team had had better pitching, it might have actually won the NL pennant -- the Dodgers won (after a three-game playoff with the Braves) with only 86 regular season wins, the fewest in the pre-divisional play era. The Cubs finished only 12 games behind (before that three-game playoff).

Speaking of Banks, Starlin Castro last night joined Ernie as one of only three Cubs shortstops to hit a home run for the only run in a 1-0 win. (Andre Rodgers was the third.) Nice company, Starlin.

Cubs lineup:

Castro SS, Barney 2B, Ramirez 3B, Pena 1B, Byrd CF, DeWitt LF, Soto C, Colvin RF, Lopez P

Will someone please stop Mike Quade from playing DeWitt in left field again? I'd rather see Tony Campana; at least he's fun to watch.

Pirates lineup:

McCutchen CF, Jones RF, Walker 2B, Lee 1B, Alvarez 3B, Ludwick LF, Doumit C, Wood SS, McDonald P

Star-divide

Today's Starting Pitchers
Rodrigo Lopez
Rodrigo Lopez
Cubs
vs. James McDonald
James McDonald
Pirates
2-3 W-L 7-5
4.40 ERA 4.17
22 SO 99
11 BB 54
6 HR 15
vs. Pit -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - Rodrigo Lopez 2-3 16 6 0 0 0 0 43.0 50 24 21 6 11 22 4.40 1.42


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2011 - James McDonald 7-5 20 21 0 0 0 0 114.1 126 56 53 15 54 99 4.17 1.57

These two pitchers matched up on July 8 at PNC. As has been typical for so many Cubs games this year, Rodrigo Lopez threw decently -- six innings, three earned runs -- and left the game in a 3-3 tie. The Cubs took a 4-3 lead after Lopez was removed, but both Sean Marshall and Carlos Marmol had bad games that day, and the Cubs lost 7-4. Aramis Ramirez homered off James McDonald that day; Andrew McCutchen homered off Lopez.

Today's game is on CSN Chicago and ROOT Sports Pittsburgh. Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.

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Today's first pitch thread will be up at 6:05 p.m. CDT and the overflow threads will post at 7 pm, 8 pm and 8:45 pm CDT. If you need more overflows due to extra innings or rain delays, post them in the fanshot section.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Well, Blakey is playing.

But so’s Colvin. I’ll take it.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

DeWitt playing LF...again...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Franchise is playing LF tonight to get more practice for when he takes over LF for 2012.

Soriano will not be moved off the team nor will he be benched. He’ll be playing 1B. BOOK IT!!!!!

RICKETTS APPROVED!!!!

by ubercubsfan on Aug 4, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

You're not going far enough Al
Will someone please stop Mike Quade from playing DeWitt in left field again?

The actual request should be: Will someone please stop Mike Quade from continuing to manage this team?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, that too.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simply put,

Will someone please stop Mike Quade?

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

That ump from last night tried to.

But we whined anyway.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are both wrong

It’s when we traded Sam Fuld that everything fell apart.

by Fresca on Aug 4, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Freel and Miles

or Castro and Barney

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 4, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly you do not remember

Ryan Freel’s imaginary friend.

I vote Freel & Farney

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 4, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And don't forget Neifi!

And Jose Macias!

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glendon Rusch!

I could go on, but I might start crying after realization that the Cubs have lost so many good players over the years.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our good general manager

is the poop and mud holding this popsicle birdhouse of a team together

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 4, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I could trade

for the guy that has an imaginary friend, the guy that many have deemed “The Worst Everyday Player Ever”, and the guy that is best known for jumping cars for three players on this current roster, I would do it in a heartbeat.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Aug 4, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

#GetStarlined

Keep that Q Train rollin' in '11. Let's win it for Ronnie.

by mikegncb34 on Aug 4, 2011 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

honestly, he's not worse IN THE FIELD than soriano...

his offense, depending on Soriano’s current streak, isnt as good…

by epsilon on Aug 4, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

His offense isn’t expected to be as good, which is why he’s a sub. He’s only in the lineup to give Sori rest (unless there is a particular matchup that DeWitt has the upper hand).

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeWitt is now too.

Your worst fear is realized.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. No he's not.

Unless you also consider Sean Marshall an outfielder and Aaron Miles a pitcher.

Just because some idiot puts a guy in a position he shouldn’t be playing, doesn’t MAKE him suddenly fit that position

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
Blake Robert DeWitt

Positions: Second Baseman, Third Baseman and Leftfielder

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm aware it was a baseball reference.

Blake DeWitt doesn’t play football

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm...

joking… or just really dim…

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

just effing with ya

Baseball reference clearly changed his position notes BECAUSE of Mike Quade

It doesn’t actually make him a left fielder.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

What makes somebody a left fielder is

if they play in left field or not… DeWitt does… he is a left fielder. This isn’t that hard.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought so.

I mean, if that’s the only criteria you’re using – that at some point they’ve played a position – then Carlos Marmol is a catcher.

It’s not that simple.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard to pin-point exactly all the things that go into someone being an outfielder...

but they’re usually things that get sorted out before the player makes a ML roster.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

I said it’s not that simple.

I can say that Blake DeWitt doesn’t fit the mold of a major league left fielder because he simply doesn’t have the bat for it. While he’s PROBABLY better than Soriano defensively (in his limited exposure) he also doesn’t have the range or arm of a left fielder.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

here children:

Nunya: arguing if Dewitt is a quality outfielder

Alkappy:Arguing if by definition Dewitt has or can play the outfield.

by epsilon on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theriot didn't have the range or arm of a SS....

Hendry doesn’t have the intelligence or foresight of a GM…

Quade doesn’t have the grasp of baseball at the ML lvl of a MLB Manager…

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Dewitt has surpass infield replacement

i believe if he’s not “super sub” then “all around general mediocre sub”

by epsilon on Aug 4, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because DeRosa was better?

Just a guess

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel Derosa is grossly overvalued on this site.

I don’t remember him doing anything except sucking at fielding and hitting. in fact I’d say the only reason the giants won the world series last year was because Derosa was injured…..

by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, wha....

FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.

by shoemile on Aug 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He sucked for the Giants.

He was pretty good for us. Your memory is faulty if all you remember is the fail

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he was a better hitter for us than I remember

I do feel like every time I saw him in the. field though he screwed it up somehow…..

by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 4, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hit .285 with 21 homers and 85 RBI in his final season here

He also made a grand total of 10 errors.

Your memory is faulty

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough

must be the sucking he’s done with the giants that’s clouded my judgment of him…. I stand corrected

by NorCalCubsFan on Aug 4, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was that...

but how much better? enough to warrant the absolute LOVE we gave him? or were they just better times?

by epsilon on Aug 4, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

b-r.com can answer your question thoroughly.

Empirically, I can tell you DeRo was exponentially better than DeWitt. And I have no beef whatsomundo with DeWitt.

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

His last season in Chicago was really, really good offensively

It was in fact the best of his career across the board.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was a top 5 second baseman in baseball that year.

1. Utley
2. Pedroia
3. DeRo
4. Kinsler
5. BRIAN ROBERTS!
6. Orlando Hudson

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's a fact!

"Well-behaved women seldom make History"---Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

by cooliogirl47 on Aug 4, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because we're racists, apparently.

‘Black’ DeWitt?

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Black JeWitt.

Racist and Prejudice.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I lol'd @ both.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Black and JeWitt?

Weird?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Effective though.

Ultimate Redemption!

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine's name is Harold.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potter

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh cool

My left foot’s name is Doug Funny.

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

THAT'S MY TAINT'S NAME!

How ironic!

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESKIMO BROTHERS!

FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.

by shoemile on Aug 4, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahaha

Can’t wait for season 3

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 4, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's Funnie, dude.

FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.

by shoemile on Aug 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's actually not that funnie.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY!

Quade is an idiot

"Go Cubs!"

by Itchy on Aug 4, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mike Quade doesn't know what an "outfielder" is.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd still rather Campana start

but i’m okay with him playing left and giving soriano a break as long as Colvin’s in the line up.

by epsilon on Aug 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me, too.

I just don’t give a flying f*** about DeWitt in left, at this point.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like we've been having this discussion for months.

DeWitt’s not blocking Carlos Beltran and his defense in left won’t cost us the pennant. I don’t like seeing him in left, but I just think we ought to chill about it.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Koyie HIll's defense in left won't cost us the penant either.

In fact, not fielding a left fielder wouldn’t cost us the penant at this point. I would imagine both of those decisions would still be reason to point out Quade’s stupidity

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeWitt's also not blocking anyone who really needs a tryout.

Say, Jackson or Colvin. You’re entitled to your opinion — all I’m saying is that I just don’t care at this point about this decision.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess.

I’m also trying to explain my point.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think playing DeWitt in left is really stupid.

But playing him period is also really stupid, and at least Quade hasn’t done that much as of late.

FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.

by shoemile on Aug 4, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do, simply because it's further evidence of a failed line of reasoning.

I’m actually resigned to the fact that both Hendry and Quade will be back next year.

I’d sure like to see some indicator that as the season goes on, Quade is learning how to be a major league manager

This kind of crap shows the opposite

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by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got that feeling too

and that’s sad.

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by Craig in South Bend on Aug 4, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I’d rather him sub for Sori than Aramis or Darwin.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

alkappy has spoken...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Isis was way cooler.

“Oh Zephyr Winds which blow on high, lift me now so I can fly.”

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on Aug 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

FIRE JIM HENDRY. Injuries aren't the problem.

by shoemile on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've said it before, Quade and Dewitt have their

brokeback relationship and nothings going to change. I would much rather see Campana in LF also. He ismore useful offensively and probably better defensively.

by alabamacubbie on Aug 4, 2011 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Castro batting 1st and Colvin in RF

over-shadows the DeWitt debacle in LF for me.

by bazfan1234 on Aug 4, 2011 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

If Castro doesn't bat first, who should?

There’s nothing resembling a legitimate leadoff hitter on the roster right now.

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I should have clarified that statement...

that I really like Castro in the lead-off spot and Colvin finally getting consistent starts. My bad…

by bazfan1234 on Aug 4, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah that is what I meant..

sorry, had someone interupt me at work.

by bazfan1234 on Aug 4, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mea Culpa

And I also hate it when work interrupts what’s really important.

by Jody Jody Davis on Aug 4, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding...

can’t they see I am trying to read up on my baseball??

by bazfan1234 on Aug 4, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Complaining about Blake DeWitt in left field is the MOST important thing I've ever done in my life.

If anyone interrupts me while doing so, terror ensues.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they go through all of those pretty quick

I’m sure it’s different for each, but I doubt many of those last more than a week.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano wasn't exactly tearing it up last night.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I would do.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I accept!

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should run it as a democracy.

Put up polls and such…
Who should pitch tonight?
Who should I bring in right NOW?

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The other voters must outweigh them!

Think: if this were a democracy, we could have traded Bradley for ADAM LIND! OR AT LEAST TRIED OR SOMETHING! GAHHHH!

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

nobody but Castro did....

But he does have 4 HR in the last week…So……

I guess its more important to get DeWitt some time in LF

by TJ11 on Aug 4, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

MAYBE SORIANO HAS BEEN TRADED!!!!!!!!

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah! Totally!

"I'm not a broadcaster! I'm me!"--Ron Santo

by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome.....

But probably not….

It would get Quade going on his plan to play DeWitt in LF as much as possible.

by TJ11 on Aug 4, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loved this quote from Q, TJ you'll probably like it too.
“There’s going to be some people in the next few days that are going to get days off, no matter what.”

He is adamant to get DeWitt in there and for some reason I feel that quote is aimed at how much he hates playing Colvin.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I really think he cant stand him the way he hates Castillo....

Most Cub fans cant stand that he is managing the Cubs….

by TJ11 on Aug 4, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAY! More sarcasm while also missing the point and completely misconstruing what others are saying!

You and your buddy are completely interchangeable.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not missing the point at all.

The quote says he will be giving people days off, somehow, his words are being twisted into “I MUST PLAY BLAKE DEWITT!!!”

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

His words are being twisted into that because.....

DUNNNN DUNNNN DUNNNNN!

He’s playing Blake DeWitt when he has other outfielders on the roster. Two of them in fact.

You are LITERALLY the only person I’ve ever seen who didn’t think playing DeWitt in left wasn’t a REALLY dumb idea.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think DeWitt

is the worst idea he has had as a manager…

what is the status of Johnson’s back?

Is Campana really more than a pinch runner?

by hansman1982 on Aug 4, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's LITERALLY only one way to answer that question....
Is Campana really more than a pinch runner?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is DeWitt really more than a beard? My beard looks better than his,

yet I’m getting starts designing HVAC not LF.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reed played half the game in RF yesterday after Colvin was ejected.

So he should be fine.

Campana — maybe not, but he can at least generate some interest in watching, with his speed.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

I really didnt know about Reed…at this point in the season I am more interested in…well…draft signings?

by hansman1982 on Aug 4, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

.
You are LITERALLY the only person I’ve ever seen who didn’t think playing DeWitt in left wasn’t a REALLY dumb idea.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...you're telling me what I've seen?

What am I doing right……NOW?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen fire

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO YOU HAVEN'T!

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen sunny days that I thought would never end.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've already forgotten

that you’ve seen lonely times when I could not find a friend?

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by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the "no matter what" that gets me.

I understand players need a day off, I have been watching baseball since 2007 alkappy. This seems to stem from yesterday when he wanted to slip DeWitt in there even after Sori and Colvin had great games, and thought better of it, whether it was his own thought (questionable) or some one elses. He’s saying no matter what you all say I’m sitting who I want!

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you don't understand that

And I don’t mean this whole thing to be an attack on you, I just disagreed with the way you put it.

by alkappy on Aug 4, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't feel attacked, and we can and will disagree.

Because I feel this is about getting DeWitt in there, and I believe less emphatically and conspiracy-like than TJ, that Quade has some mentor/mentee like relationship with DeWitt.

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was the whole team

taking the month off…need to stay rested for the playoff run

by hansman1982 on Aug 4, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

a hiatus?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just for other stalker people like me...

I ran across the Eric Hanna post today, and found out that he has emerged from his cave, and is posting over at Stampede Blue, the Colts website.

never forget...
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Please invite him over.

I’d love to introduce myself to him.

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by chilango2 on Aug 4, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I refuse to make any kind of comment there....

Until BigBlueShoe is no longer running Stampede Blue.

Don’t bother negotiating with me to go over there, either … it won’t happen.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go forth, wrigleyrocker12, and bring him to us.

We will adorn him in our finest silks and velvets, ply him with ale and sweetmeats, and proclaim him the God that he is.

Baseball is pitching, hitting, baserunning and defense.

by daver on Aug 4, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just for other stalker people like me...

I ran across the Eric Hanna post today, and found out that he has emerged from his cave, and is posting over at Stampede Blue, the Colts website.

never forget...
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anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Aug 4, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

You liked this news so much that you chose to post it twice!

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand Colvin has had a bad year.

But I just don’t understand the upside of him hitting 8th, especially with DeWitt in the lineup.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Aug 4, 2011 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay

we have The Franchise playing LF and Reed & Campana sit, who are actual OFers……mmmmmmm. Well that’s perfectly sensible for Quade. Surprised he isn’t playing him at SS and putting Castro in LF!

by Swoosie on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Time for five - Go Cubs!

Will be at work the entire night – I’ll try to check onto the game thread.

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Complaining about DeWitt in left is SO May 2011.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Not really.

It’s May, June, July, August, and probably September 2011.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

April 2012 here we come!

"Beisbol been berry berry good to me." -Tony Oliva

by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I was joking.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

I wasn’t.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're entitled to your opinion, Al.

But if DeWitt is blocking Reed Johnson and Tony Campana … well, I just don’t care. And the “he’s not an outfielder” reasoning doesn’t do much for me, considering that DeWitt hasn’t been that bad in left.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

While that's true.

The fact that Quade is so adament on DeWitt being in the outfield is strange. He’s not very good in left, and you might as well give Johnson/Campana/Baker a chance in left if you need someone to fill in. DeWitt seems like a last resort option.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Aug 4, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's called 'he's actually BETTER in the OF than the IF this year'

if fielding percentage is any guide…

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're paying him more than league minimum, you play him.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fielding percentage is absurdly misleading to compare IF to OF

You can find utterly mediocre if not bad reserve OF that have a perfect fielding percentage because they don’t play much and get few chances.
Right now DeWitt has a better fielding percentage in he OF than everyone from Fuld to Crawford so is he a better fielder?

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly? I doubt it.

If Soriano were gone, Jackson would likely be up and playing, IMO.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Based on ... ?

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because it rained on Oct. 1, 2010 ...

doesn’t mean it’ll rain on Oct. 1, 2011. That’s essentially your reasoning.

Where have you gone, Kiko Calero. A nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

by elgato on Aug 4, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its what we have to go on.....

Quade is in CYA save your job mode…..Like last year

by TJ11 on Aug 4, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if it rained every October 1st for a decade, you could make the prediction that it might again this year

While Quade doesn’t have THAT kind of history, there are some behaviors he’s engaged in that could lead someone to get nervous about his handling of Colvin. There are also some comments he’s made that seem to say Colvin has to EARN playing time, as opposed to getting playing time because we want to see what he actually brings to the table.

His handling of Castillo THIS year when Soto went down as well as other Quade comments regarding rookies and veterans all paint him as someone who favors veterans. This is ALSO his first season as a manager, and we don’t know how he plans on managing down the stretch. Will he see the importance of just letting the kids play, or will he go after every win as if it was a precious diamond?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

DeWitty jokes...

If the Cubs still have a chance, no matter how small, it’s still Go Cubs, damn the math and pass the KoolAid.

by eths on Aug 4, 2011 5:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

A new Ex Cub Hero for the Rays

First there was that guy who dived for balls and crashed into walls and should have hit for the cycle ( can’t remember his name) , then Brandon Guyer gets a home run in his first MLB at bat and now SUPER CHIRINOS. Robinson Chirinos came in to pinch hit today in the bottom of the 11th with two out and a runner on 2nd. Down to his last pitch he hit a game tying double. He came up again with score tied in the bottom of the 12th, bases loaded and two out and hit a game winning single. He also had a 3 run homer last night.

Rays making good use of the 3 not very important players in the deal. Wait till they get to Lee & Archer

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Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

meh if they were still Cubs

then would do that and then hit .240 for the rest of their careers

by hansman1982 on Aug 4, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

^ Rays fan ^

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 4, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go Cubs Go!

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by Subterfuge on Aug 4, 2011 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Al...where do you get this stuff from?
Speaking of Banks, Starlin Castro last night joined Ernie as one of only three Cubs shortstops to hit a home run for the only run in a 1-0 win. (Andre Rodgers was the third.) Nice company, Starlin.

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem.

by Easy Ed on Aug 4, 2011 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus texts him.

He also goes by the name Deep Goat.

'Never look down on anybody unless you're helping him up.'

by Unique on Aug 4, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um it was on either ESPN or MLB Network

Heard it myself.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was on ESPN.

Still, it’s a fact.

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by Al Yellon on Aug 4, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

These last few wins are messing with my husband's sanity.

He’s starting to get excited and thinks we can catch up to the Reds and be in 4th place. Not sure if he’s kidding or if he’s really lost his mind.

Fasten those seat belts...

by katie casey on Aug 4, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

The "DeWitt in LF" debate seems much less relevant now

At this point, seeing what DeWitt can do is no less valuable than seeing what Campana can do (since neither is likely to be more than a sub anyway). Campana is really fast but can’t hit at all, DeWitt can hit a little but can’t run well. Neither can throw for much (DeWitt’s arm is stronger).

I only had a problem with the DeWitt thing when he was playing ahead of Tyler Colvin. It made no sense to play DeWitt when there was still the question of whether Colvin could hack it as an everyday OF. As long as Colvin is getting a look, I don’t much care whether we play DeWitt or Campana in LF for an off-day for Soriano.

I suspect that Quade envisions using DeWitt and Baker as super-subs next year and Reed Johnson is not going to be here. If that’s the mindset, then I can understand starting DeWitt over Johnson in this lost season.

by SouthernCub on Aug 4, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Playing DeWitt in LF

is a dumb as it was is June. We are supposed to be grateful he has not totally sucked, but in comparison to Sori, you could probably play Sean Marshall in LF and he would not totally suck.

It makes as much sense to play him in LF as it would to play Johnson at 2B. As I said months ago the ONLY reason to play a non OF in the OF is A. you have no other options. B, The guy is a great hitter and you need to stick him somewhere. Neither is the case here and continuing to play him there is only slightly better than Lou playing Scales there over Colvin, Fuld, Hoff & Fox.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either

by Doggie Stalker on Aug 4, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's committed no errors in the outfield

Would that our established starters were so proficient….

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not the issue

Do you think that Sean Marshall could do 144 innings and 31 chances and not commit an error? Or Reed Johnson play 144 innings and not commit an error at 2B?

He hasn’t been a defensive liability in left and he does have some hitting ability, which puts him miles above Campana for ‘subbing one day a week’.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it is the issue...
Would that our established starters were so proficient….

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Aug 4, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honest question

Are you the same guy who was claiming that Koyie Hill was a better catcher than Wellington Castillo because the team’s record in games that Hill started was better than the team’s record in games that Castillo started?

Fire Jim Hendry. Injuries aren't the problem

by Nunyabidness on Aug 4, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

I’m the guy who claimed that Koyie Hill was the guy who’s pitcher’s ERA was half a run lower than Soto’s two of the last three years, which made him eminently suitable to be a backup catcher. And that Castillo doesn’t get to develop sitting on the bench 5 games out of 7 watching Soto hit.

[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."

by NobodySpecial on Aug 4, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least Ed Lynch had the sense to resign...

Flashback article from July 2000: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/07/19/sports/main216806.shtml

I never was a fan of Lynch’s, but I like his remarks here about holding himsef to accountability after he fired Riggleman.

by jeffmills1972 on Aug 4, 2011 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Four game winning streak!

WooHoo, we’re back in it! Oh wait, no we’re not. This is just Quade’s dead cat bounce, same as last year.

I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey

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